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« Svar #600 på: August 10, 2018, 14:01:13 »
Her vises måten Leeds kommer til å spille på i en fantastisk sekvens fra en kamp mellom Bielsas Atletico Bilbao og Guardiolas Barcelona!!!

Fantastisk presshøyde ved balltap fra begge lag og fantastiske forsøk på presisjon:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=z_ZlSdsbpjg


Gleder meg til resten av sesongen!  :)
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« Svar #601 på: August 14, 2018, 21:19:41 »
Etter 20 minutter mot Bolton finner jeg det passende å proklamere:
Jeg elsker det vi prøver å få til, og som gutta også i lange perioder får til!
Defensivt er selvsagt aggressiviteten i presset, over hele banen og med alle mann involvert, det man legger først merke til. Det betyr at vi ofte vinner ballen så høyt, og så tidlig, at det blir få farlige angrep å forholde seg til i skummelt område. Samtidig ser spillerne ut til å forstå de noe flytende rollene i forsvarsleddet, og i alle fall så langt framstått meget duellsterke og solide.
Framover går det fort, i riktig retning, og med mange spillere både rundt ballfører og på løp foran. Med ballsikre karer sentralt byr det seg nesten alltid flere alternativ, korte såvel som lengre. Spillerne bytter posisjoner og roller nærmest kontinuerlig.  Dette gjør spillet herlig uforutsigbart og vanskelig for i alle fall spillere på CCC nivå å forsvare seg mot. 

Legg til at spillerne generelt ser meget veltrente og kvikke ut. Noe som både betyr at de kan løpe fort og langt, men også at de beholder kontroll på hode og bein i de fleste situasjoner.

Dette ser så langt ut som en vinnerformel, og en fotball i alle fall jeg digger å se fra mitt lag!

Og der scoret Bamford. Som fortjent og forventet. Deilig følelse!

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« Svar #602 på: August 15, 2018, 21:20:24 »
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Anyone noticed what we do at throw-ins? I picked up on it at Stoke then Derby, and it was the same again last night so clearly is coached.

They run around in circles, replacing the previous man, until someone is available and it works every time. Bielsa thinks of everything.

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« Svar #603 på: August 15, 2018, 22:15:04 »
Phil Hay tenker høyt - er Corberan den som kan fortsette Bielsas ways når Bielsa en dag gir seg?

Phil Hay: Say it quietly, but there’s potential for a lasting legacy beyond Bielsa at Leeds United

Carlos Corberan, left, who is new to Marcelo Bielsa's inner circle, with Jamie Shackleton.
Phil Hay Email Published: 20:00 Updated: 20:52 Wednesday 15 August 2018


 There is a reluctance, almost a shyness, about Marcelo Bielsa when press conferences take a predictable turn and draw him into discussing the men who single him out as their keenest influence. Where Pep Guardiola credits part of his coaching acumen to Bielsa, Bielsa hears only self-deprecation distorting Guardiola’s own genius. “In any of his teams I’ve never seen any sign of my traits,” Bielsa says, though the Championship must be questioning how true that really is.

Bielsa devotes himself to improving players, a raison d’etre stretching back 30 years. Any effect he has on the coaching fraternity is, apparently, unintentional if not quite open to debate. It is a quirk of the Argentinian’s career that he has mentored so many exceptional managers without actually mentoring them at all. Guardiola picks Bielsa’s brain but has never worked with him. Mauricio Pochettino was in Bielsa’s hands more than once as a player, long enough to digest his methods, but did not coach beneath him.

Bielsa has overseen an accidental factory, a production line he created without thinking about it. And yet the appreciation of him is such that a letter written by Pochettino helped Bielsa qualify for a work permit from the Football Association in June.

A glance at Bielsa’s backroom staff at Leeds United, the tight clique of lieutenants who bring everything together, shows how little thought he gives to nurturing what, in English terms, could be called the Anfield Bootroom.

His assistants are staunchly loyal and professionally dedicated, South Americans who drop everything when Bielsa tips up in a different patch of Europe, but they hold the smallest of profiles and move around silently as Bielsa relocates. At no stage have his closest allies sought to branch out individually or use their close proximity to Bielsa to manage a club in their own right.

When Bielsa quit Marseille, his staff departed en masse. When Lille lost patience with him, they all did likewise. One day it will end for Bielsa at Leeds and the same will happen. The staff around him came to be known in Argentina as the iron circle; difficult to bend when the going is good and inclined to stand fast when the wheels come off. There is a reason why Bielsa commands that loyalty. So many of the individuals who work for him are in the game because of him; opportunists in a healthy sense. Pablo Quiroga taught physical education and coached in amateur football before Bielsa enlisted him with Chile’s national team. Diego Reyes, more improbably, found a way into the sanctum by tipping up unannounced at Chile’s training complex and asking for work. He and Bielsa met then for the first time. Diego Flores joined the party at Marseille despite a fairly blank track record. Bielsa’s French translator, Salim Lamrani, is a highly-educated, multilingual academic but he is here through a kind stroke of fate: a Marseille supporter who warmed to Bielsa and succeeded in making Bielsa warm to him. In that company, Benoit Delaval – Leeds’ French fitness coach – stands out on the strength of 12 years spent in Lille’s medical department.

Most if not all of that team are in situ for as long as Bielsa is in situ. They come as a package.

Which leaves Carlos Corberan, the one existing coach who Bielsa chose to draft into his inner circle a month ago. Corberan, United’s Under-23s manager, had certain factors in his favour – fluent in Spanish but with a good grasp of English, a season already spent at Elland Road and evidence behind him of productive work with Leeds’ development squad – and, after sizing him up in the early days of pre-season, Bielsa asked him to join his bench.

Carlos Corberan (right) and Danny Schofield. In that capacity he was absent from Leeds’ academy friendlies but Corberan returned to the dug-out for the Under-23s first league game against Coventry City on Monday night. Danny Schofield has been handling the development squad in the interim and the club have not officially re-defined Corberan’s role, though they say he is “integral to the first-team set-up” and will retain some responsibility for the transfer of academy players to Bielsa’s squad and continuity in the club’s style of football. Leeds went 4-1-4-1 against Coventry and committed to a high press. Bielsa, watching from the side of the pitch, would have been looking for that.

All through the age groups an education is on offer. It was the question put most often to Bielsa’s players during the summer: how much do they hope to gain from the attention of a coach who Guardiola attributes some of his talent to? Even Pablo Hernandez, now 33 and with the most defined attributes a footballer could have, is talking about finding ways to evolve; of getting better in the twilight of his career. Bielsa aspires to that development. Nothing has been more obvious in the first two weeks of the season than his ethos of self-improvement.

But farther down the line there is an opportunity for his management to rub off on a coach like Corberan and put Leeds in a position where Bielsa’s touch will not be lost the moment this cycle of his life ends; to encourage some form of legacy, as much as Bielsa would screw his face up at that word. Inspiring coaches was not his calling but he has acquired a reputation which appears to divide managers into two groups: those who were inspired by Bielsa, and those who should have been.

Read more at: https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/phil-hay-say-it-quietly-but-there-s-potential-for-a-lasting-legacy-beyond-bielsa-at-leeds-united-1-9302856
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« Svar #604 på: August 16, 2018, 12:41:48 »
Turf Cast

"It's that mentality of getting used to that and perfoming at a consistant level all of the time."

Sean Dyche on the challenges the club could face playing more and more games this season as the campaign progresses.

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Vi begynner kanskje å skjønne hvorfor Bielsa utvikler hele mennesket og fotballspilleren slik at de blir trygge og robuste!
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« Svar #605 på: August 25, 2018, 18:26:09 »
Phil Hay

Bielsa (red. etter Norwich borte): "To extend the way you play for the longest time possible (to the end of the match) is the goal for any time." Pleased to see avoid a concession late on and keep a clean sheet. #lufc
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« Svar #606 på: September 05, 2018, 21:36:55 »
Glimrende artikkel om hvordan Leeds spiller under Bielsa.
Mye ros, men også noen bekymringer om hvilke mottrekk andre lag kan finne...

(I linken finner man videoeksempler på det det skrives om)

September 5, 2018
How Are Leeds Doing Under Marcelo Bielsa?
By Mohamed Mohamed

 
If we rewind back to the end of fall in 2017, Marcelo Bielsa was in a tough situation as a manager. The initial excitement of his hiring at Lille had dissipated within a couple of months and the club was residing near the bottom of the table in Ligue 1. Lille were bad enough under his watch that it led to a suspension and his eventual sacking in December. Bielsa was out of a job and what had looked to be one of the more intriguing projects in European football was now a relegation scrap. While his legacy remained strong thanks to the famous managerial disciples that have followed him and his time with the Chile national team and parts of his tenures at Athletic Bilbao and Marseille, the idea of hiring Bielsa in 2018 looked fairly risky. Add to it that he was going to Leeds, a team that’s recent history has featured its fair share of dysfunction, and you could see why many people were skeptical and even outright snarky about the appointment.


That said, while it’s very early to make concrete projections, Leeds being as good as they’ve been so far this season is a welcome sign. There are things to quibble about when solely looking at their first 6 matches, including a sky high shot conversion rate that’s helped boost their goal total, but Leeds have markedly improved their performances from last season.

With Bielsa led sides in the past, verticality has been a major part of the gameplan in attack. The simple idea is that the ball should get into advanced areas as quickly as possible. Already this is coming into play at Leeds. At times, they have had as many as five outfield players in the final third (striker, wide players, advanced CMs) with the goal being that once they recover possession of the ball through second balls or layoffs, they can strike up quick combination plays and create shots in the penalty box. That being said, it should be noted that Leeds rank near the bottom in the Championship in open play long passes originated from their own third. There is more than one way to be direct. What’s there in addition to their moments of going direct is a team that’s shown the ability to attract pressure from the opponent and progress the ball from overloads and quick combination plays. When the opportunity arises once the goalkeeper is in possession of the ball, they’ll use a common tactic of spreading their CBs apart and bringing a midfielder inwards to create a numerical advantage deep to find a passing outlet.

Leeds have shown frailties during buildup play, and those frailties were most obvious in their two draws against Swansea and Middlesbrough. Leeds tend to leave a gap between the defensive midfielder (Kelvin Phillips) and the two advanced midfielders (Mateusz Klich + Samuel Saiz) when creating attacks. While this is largely by design, it does mean that being disciplined in regards to blocking passing lanes to the defensive midfielder can make it hard for Leeds to access the middle while in their own third. Leeds could not access the middle when Middlesbrough were in a set defense, relegated to ball circulation among the back line or going long from their own third. Britt Assombalonga did a good job for most of the match in positioning his body to make sure there was no pass available to Phillips. It would be one thing if the Middlesbrough match was an isolated incident because teams managed by Tony Pulis in the Championship are well drilled defensively, but similar things happened for long periods of time in their match against Swansea. It makes you wonder whether this will become more of a common occurrence as more games occur and Bielsa’s style is more understood.


Once the ball is progressed further up the field, Leeds are most prolific when attacking on the left side because of the presence of Barry Douglas, one of the prolific chance creators from the fullback position in the league. While it’ll be hard to see him replicate the assist totals he had last season, there’s no doubt that he’s a good passer. No Leeds player has had more deep progressions (passes + dribbles + carries into final third) per 90 minutes than Douglas at 7.16. When he’s off the ball, Leeds will try to get him sprinting into the wide areas near the penalty box while a couple of runners go into the heart of the box to create potential cutback opportunities.

Leeds can also attack from the right wing via Pablo Hernandez as he is really good both in directly creating chances for others or just simply generating passes into the box, but they’ve leaned more towards favoring the left side. When all else fails, Leeds have been very able to create opportunities via transitions or broken plays when the opposition don’t have a set defense. This might be their best method of creating chances because they do a good job of supporting the man on the ball. With the presence of Hernandez and Sáiz, Leeds have the requisite passing quality to find runners making off ball runs and create chances from these scenarios.

Along with above average play in set pieces, Leeds have managed the best goal differential in the league this season at +10, and place second in goals scored at 14. On the surface, these are good indicators for their performance, but peek behind the curtains and you’ll see some concerns with their attack. While shot volume hasn’t been a problem in open play, their average quality per shot at just under 10% has not been the greatest and it’s been aided by the level of variance that isn’t sustainable long term.


Being a team that has above average open play shot volume but pretty average with their shot locations isn’t exactly the type of profile you want from your attack unless you’re lucky to have multiple players who have shown to be above average finishers. The goal is to take as many shots as possible from good areas and in absence of being able to marry shot generation + locations that in open play, you’re better off taking fewer shots that are higher quality chances versus taking a lot of inefficient shots and relying on variance going your way. This hasn’t mattered so much so far because Leeds have had the variance bounce through six games, but you get into dangerous territory when you’re relying on that to prop up an attack to the degree that’s it’s gone for Leeds so far. This isn’t to necessarily say that Leeds are going to automatically regress back to break even because variance doesn’t quite work in such a linear way within a season, but the odds of them continuing to out lap their expected goal output to this degree are next to none. It would be in their best interest to look to improve their shot locations to withstand a possible downturn in fortune moving forward.

While Leeds attack has more questions than perhaps their goal totals would suggest, it can’t be denied that their defense has been quite good even beyond their strong defensive record of four goals through six games. They’ve been able to combine both the ability to suppress shots by only giving up 11 shots per game and not allowing teams to create good chances from those shots, only giving up an average xG/shot of just over 8% in open play. Leeds have basically been what you would expect from a Bielsa led side at their best: junk up the middle by having everyone guard their own marker, and not be afraid for the game to turn into chaos ball.

On the whole, this has worked well but one problem with such a heavy man-marking scheme is that it can be susceptible to individual dribbling because you’re not guarding space but rather where the man is at the time. In particular, opponents have had success here and there when using their center back to carry the ball from deep and provoke a Leeds player to try and match up with him, opening passing lanes around him and creating chain reactions that leads to dangerous opportunities. Kemar Roofe will be on his own up front trying to disrupt the two center backs, which means one will have the pathway to carry the ball into the middle third and possibly even further. Ball carrying from the center back position is something that I think will become more prominent in the years to come as another way of destabilizing a team’s defensive setup, a way to add even more attacking value for a central defender on top of passing duties.

It would be risky to suggest strong opinions about Leeds’ future prospects for the rest of the season as we’re only 13% of the way through, even though it would be fun if this side finished as one of the three promoted sides and finally made their way back to the Premier League. As much as it’s a cliche to say, the Championship in the 46 game season format it’s in makes it a grind, and Bielsa’s teams in the past have had their problems with pacing themselves through the season. Even if you’re someone who’s skeptical towards the idea that teams coached by Bielsa actually suffer the level of burnout that’s been suggested, there are things to be slightly concerned about with their approach.

But it can’t be denied that on the whole Leeds have been fun so far, and the fact that they’ve so seamlessly become a proactive side that has shown the ability to blitz teams in doses is a credit on some level to Bielsa. He’s a genius, one with perhaps a short shelf life, but a genius nonetheless and it is nice to see him return to being a relevant name within European football. Even if this season ends in Leeds finishing just outside a playoff spot but having these peaks of exciting football, it’s a massive step up from basically every season Leeds have had over the past decade or so.

On the aggregate, Leeds have been good through six games. It could be argued that their performance level makes them closer to the 2nd/3rd best team in the league than one with the best goal differential and tied for most points, but they wouldn’t be the first team to have their position in the table get some sort of positive bump. They have created a solid defense with an attack that’s been fine but not necessarily better than that. As it’s come to be with Bielsa over the years, all possible scenarios are on the table in regards to what happens with Leeds moving forward, but so far so good.

https://statsbomb.com/2018/09/how-are-leeds-doing-under-marcelo-bielsa/
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« Svar #607 på: September 05, 2018, 22:37:40 »
Veldig lærerikt lesestoff. Jeg har sett et sted at vi har hatt et snitt på 1,2 xG (expected goals) per match. Noe som skulle tilsi 7,2 mål på de 6 kampene vi har bak oss. Med andre ord, vi har hatt bedre uttelling enn forventet i angrep. Nå er det jo også heldigvis slik at spillerne blir bedre jo mer tid Bielsa får med de så jeg håper vi klarer å heve kvaliteten på sjansene.

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« Svar #608 på: Mars 10, 2019, 09:57:49 »
...en glemt tråd, dette??? :o

Holloway drools over Leeds

 

Date: 10th March 2019 at 8:30am

Written by: Olivia Leigh

Ian Holloway heaped praise on Leeds United after watching their 1-0 win over Bristol City on Saturday.

The former QPR manager shared that he thought the Whites had everything going for them but believes the most impressive thing Marcelo Bielsa had brought to the club was the fact he had got the front players to close down their opponents.

Holloway noted that due to Leeds’ forward players pressing their opponents when they were in possession it alleviated some of the pressure that is on the defence.

“Well I think that’s the most impressive thing of all that Bielsa has brought them is the closing and pressing by the front players, which alleviates the pressure at the back, they’re looking like they’ve got everything going for them,” said Holloway on Quest’s EFL Highlight Show (21:13, Saturday March 9th).

https://thisisfutbol.com/2019/03/blogs/championship/holloway-drools-over-leeds/
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« Svar #609 på: Mai 22, 2019, 21:25:32 »
En analyse av spillet til Bielsa med Roofe og Ayling:

Marcelo Bielsa Tactical Philosophy Analysis:

- Attacking FB Role of Luke Ayling (Interior & Overlap Runs)
- 3rd Man Combo's
- 2 Player Movements - Creating & Moving into open spaces

"A man with new ideas is a madman until his ideas triumph" - Bielsa

https://twitter.com/footyanalysis19/status/1130708158039461888?s=12
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« Svar #610 på: Juli 02, 2019, 18:01:15 »
Dan F-M

#TuesdayThoughts from Marcelo #Bielsa, explaining 1 of his famed 5 different ways of losing your marker ("Receiving the aerial ball in behind") + @Harrison_Jack11 superbly demonstrating the exercise on his 1st day back at #LUFC preseason yesterday

https://twitter.com/danielfmpro/status/1145976767183753216?s=12

Med video!  :)
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Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #612 på: Juli 06, 2019, 13:21:11 »
Virkelig artig å se måten det drilles på enkle «signaturbevegelser» og rollefordelinger i Bielsafilosofien. Det virker for meg som Bielsas største styrke er å sy sammen alle de detaljerte drillene til en helhetlig filosofi og klarer å overføre dette til kampsituasjonen. Som spiller må det være fantastisk å ikke bare ha full forståelse av egne arbeidsoppgaver, men også hvordan de 10 andre kommer til å agere i en gitt situasjon.

Det minner ikke rent lite om måten Nils Arne Eggen jobbet med RBK i glansdagene.

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Min første Leeds-kamp:
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« Svar #614 på: Juli 08, 2019, 11:43:15 »
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

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« Svar #615 på: Juli 11, 2019, 17:14:29 »
https://twitter.com/Jon_Mackenzie/status/1149299856462241793

Opta-analyser om bl.a. Leeds er offentliggjort.

Jon her har laget en rekke tweeter med tekst og bilder om vårt offensive og defensive spill.

Interessant! (men langt...)


This morning, Opta - the football analytics company - released a 2018/19 Championship season review. I'm going to parse all of the relevant #lufc data here but if you want to read the review yourself, you can find it here:

https://www.optasportspro.com/static/10-create-season-review.html …

First things first: let's look at the team.

One of the most pervasive metrics in football analytics at the moment is Expected Goals (xG). If you don't know what Expected Goals are, here's the Opta definition:
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Essentially, xG models use (often quite complicated) algorithms to assign a value to chances taken by a football team. These values on a scale from 0 (impossible to score) to 1.0 (impossible to miss). If you add these up, you can determine how many goals a team would be likely to

score within a certain time frame (the larger the time frame, the better - as a general rule).

As you can see from these graphics, Leeds fans can be feeling disappointed that their team didn't achieve promotion last season. They topped both the table for xG for (how many they

might expect to have score in the course of the season) and xG against (how many they might expect to concede in the course of the season).
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Breaking these figures down, you can see from this graphic that Leeds took the most shots from open play and almost matched Norwich's open play xG (the highest in the league). However, tellingly, Leeds performed their xG value by a couple of goals where Norwich and Sheffield
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United overperformed their's: Norwich by a huge amount.

This could suggest that Norwich were very lucky and that Leeds were slightly unlucky but there are other factors to consider here (of which more later).

At the other end of the field, a similar picture emerges: Leeds were up there with the best in the league in terms of xG against. They had the lowest xG against in the league and conceded the fewest shots. However, once again, they underperformed these figures by about 8 goals.
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Norwich also underperformed to their xG against figure but only by about 4.5 goals and Sheffield United overperformed by 1.5 goals.

It isn't hard to see that, between xG for and xG against, Leeds came off the worst of their two championship rivals.

If you start to break down Leeds in the attacking phase, you get the following figures:
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In each attacking phase, you can see that the top three are all very comparable again but with Leeds being the more direct team per speed.

You can also break attacking sequences into game state (whether we were winning, losing or drawing) or location (whether home or away)
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There's not too much to see here other than that we were stylistically very similar in the attacking phase regardless of whether we were home or away. You can also see that we tended to speed up the attacking phase when we were losing which is only natural.

In the defensive phase, Leeds show up really interestingly:
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Unsurprisingly, we show up as the team with the highest number of high pressures: that is putting pressure on the ball further up the pitch.

PPDA stands for Pressures per Defensive Action. This is the number of opposition passes allowed outside of the pressing team’s own

defensive third, divided by the number of defensive actions by the pressing team outside of their own defensive third. A lower figure indicates a higher level of pressing, while a higher figure indicates a lower level of pressing.

Leeds have the lowest figure in the league.


Start distance indicates the distance in metres from their own goal that a team begins their defensive pressure. Leeds have the highest figure again indicating their pressing begins very high up the pitch.

Again unsurprisingly, Leeds made more defensive pressures than any other
(graf)

team in the top half of the table.

Altogether, Leeds enacted a high and energetic press which functioned well in keeping opposition chances to a minimum. They were unlucky to concede as many goals as they did.
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Turning to the players and OH LOOK... it's only Patrick Bamford at the top of the individual xG chart...
(tabell)

No need to flog a dead horse. His xG was 0.8 per 90 minutes. That is very good. Taking into account where he hit the shots he took (xGOT) his finesse was clearly off last season. His 0.6 goals per 90, though, was pretty much what you'd expect in line with this figure.

Kemar Roofe similarly underperformed xG (are you seeing a pattern here?)

When you look at players like Tammy Abraham, Teemu Puuki and Billy (*grinds teeth*) Sharp, you'll see that all of them overperformed per xG.

For those of you who can bear it... here's Bamford's shot chart from last season. The size of the dot correlates to the likelihood of scoring - the bigger the dot, the better the chance. This makes for grim reading.
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Looking under the surface at Bamford and Roofe, Opta give you pressure and clarity data on top of the xG data:
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Pressure indicates how much coverage you're getting from opposition defenders. Clarity indicates your line of site to the goal.

Bamford, worryingly, had one of the highest figures of low-pressure shots in the league. However, he had a tendency to take shots with lower clarity.

This shot map from Kemar Roofe should make you feel better though.
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Looking at the Exected Assists (xA) data, it's a different story.

Here's the Opta definition of xA:
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Oh but this is weird: Samu Saiz is top of the list... closely followed by Pablo Hernandez....

Do you think that could have affected our season at all?
(tabell)

Both Saiz and Hernandez have good per 90 figures. Interestingly, though, they drop a little per 100 passes which probably indicates that their roles weren't primarily directly creative.

Here's a nice graphic of Pablo's involvement assist-wise last season:
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Goalkeepers: Not a lot to say. Bailey Peacock-Farrell beneF***ed from being on a good side but didn't do much to stop goals going in when they came.
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Guys, we're really good defensively. Here's a chart looking at the best players in the league in the defensive phase. Our two CBs (PJ sad face) and our DM picking up 1, 2 and 3.
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As you can see, both Liam Cooper and Pontus Jansson were involved both in ball-winning and passing-sequence starts. Kalvin Phillips, it might surprise you to note, is not a particularly outstanding tackler in terms of volume but he is exceptional at picking up loose balls.

When it comes to attacking phase involvements, things are a little less sanguine. Patrick Bamford just about creeps into the list but his figures are less than healthy. He's been involved in a few sequences that end in shots (20.64 per hundred sequences) but only 2.52 of these
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Tell me - I've got to know
Tell me - Tell me before I go
Does that flame still burn, does that fire still glow
Or has it died out and melted like the snow
Tell me  Tell me

Dylan

Promotion 2010

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #616 på: Juli 20, 2019, 09:06:29 »
Leeds United training - attack v defence


Leeds United stepped up their final preparations for the second and last friendly of their Australia tour on Friday evening at Sydney Olympic Park.

Unlike Tuesday’s session at Perth’s HBF Park, where 3,500-plus fans attended, New South Wales Rugby League’s Centre of Excellence hosted a handful of media with the team.

LeedsLive went along to watch the session, which is the first time any media have been invited to watch the team train under Marcelo Bielsa’s supervision.

Here’s a few things we picked out from the session.

 Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia`
Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: John Peters/Manchester United via Getty Images)
Bielsa steals the show

Naturally, given how little we have seen of the head coach since May’s play-off agony, any opportunity to see the man at work is to be enjoyed.

The Argentine tends to speak very little, but takes a step back and watches absolutely everything he can. He seems to offer small bursts of direction from which assistants Diego Reyes and Diego Flores do the rest with the players.

Bielsa was pacing around the pitch while the players warmed up, including the goalkeepers. When it came to get down to business, he was nearby, stood in the middle of the various huddles, spoke and then moved away.

Leeds United's Australia tour
Perhaps most charming was the succinct, but warm encouragement he gave his players when they impressed him.

During one drill which tested how quickly they closed down an opponent, Stuart Dallas and Gaetano Berardi were audibly commended.

“Good, very good, Dallas!”

“Good, Bera!”

Stuart Dallas can be seen wearing a heads the ball bandage after the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
It’s simple, but given how little he speaks and how much distance he keeps, those few words must mean so much to each player, given Bielsa’s stature in the sport.

Forshaw out

The only one of the 16 players not to be involved in training was Adam Forshaw, who is still struggling with the knock he took off Ashley Young on Wednesday.

The Victor Orta interview in full - every word Leeds United chief said in his rare sit-down

The Manchester United captain slid through Forshaw late in the match, wide on the touchline and he faces a late fitness test before Saturday’s game.

Dallas was fine and is in contention after his head injury.

Bielsa’s English may be better than we know

Forshaw was out on the pitch with his team-mates, but keeping them company in his trainers rather than knocking about in his boots.

I noticed he was out there because he was in conversation with Bielsa without a translator. It wasn’t a 30-minute chat over a coffee, but long enough for the Argentine to hold his own.

Adam Forshaw acknowledges supporters after a pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
While his more complicated, lengthy instructions were bellowed in Spanish, he must know a fair amount of English after more than a year with the Whites.

Bamford applause sums up team spirit

A few little nuggets of how the team is bonding from the session, but the loudest was the appreciation Patrick Bamford received for one quality finish inside the box.

Stuart Dallas exclusive: Leeds United man on head injury, Anthony Martial and 24/7 tour life

The team had been split into three units: three crossers on the left, three crossers on the right and seven others in the middle either attacking or defending the balls as they came in.

Bamford ran onto one from the left and cracked it with minimal effort into the top corner with his left peg. Bielsa, stood in the goalmouth, loved it and his team-mates even applauded it, something they did not do for anyone else.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-training-bielsa-sydney-16616905.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Leedsfan

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #617 på: Juli 20, 2019, 09:30:00 »
Leeds United training - attack v defence


Leeds United stepped up their final preparations for the second and last friendly of their Australia tour on Friday evening at Sydney Olympic Park.

Unlike Tuesday’s session at Perth’s HBF Park, where 3,500-plus fans attended, New South Wales Rugby League’s Centre of Excellence hosted a handful of media with the team.

LeedsLive went along to watch the session, which is the first time any media have been invited to watch the team train under Marcelo Bielsa’s supervision.

Here’s a few things we picked out from the session.

 Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia`
Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: John Peters/Manchester United via Getty Images)

Bielsa steals the show

Naturally, given how little we have seen of the head coach since May’s play-off agony, any opportunity to see the man at work is to be enjoyed.

The Argentine tends to speak very little, but takes a step back and watches absolutely everything he can. He seems to offer small bursts of direction from which assistants Diego Reyes and Diego Flores do the rest with the players.

Bielsa was pacing around the pitch while the players warmed up, including the goalkeepers. When it came to get down to business, he was nearby, stood in the middle of the various huddles, spoke and then moved away.

Leeds United's Australia tour
Perhaps most charming was the succinct, but warm encouragement he gave his players when they impressed him.

During one drill which tested how quickly they closed down an opponent, Stuart Dallas and Gaetano Berardi were audibly commended.

“Good, very good, Dallas!”

“Good, Bera!”

Stuart Dallas can be seen wearing a heads the ball bandage after the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
It’s simple, but given how little he speaks and how much distance he keeps, those few words must mean so much to each player, given Bielsa’s stature in the sport.

Forshaw out

The only one of the 16 players not to be involved in training was Adam Forshaw, who is still struggling with the knock he took off Ashley Young on Wednesday.

The Victor Orta interview in full - every word Leeds United chief said in his rare sit-down

The Manchester United captain slid through Forshaw late in the match, wide on the touchline and he faces a late fitness test before Saturday’s game.

Dallas was fine and is in contention after his head injury.

Bielsa’s English may be better than we know

Forshaw was out on the pitch with his team-mates, but keeping them company in his trainers rather than knocking about in his boots.

I noticed he was out there because he was in conversation with Bielsa without a translator. It wasn’t a 30-minute chat over a coffee, but long enough for the Argentine to hold his own.

Adam Forshaw acknowledges supporters after a pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
While his more complicated, lengthy instructions were bellowed in Spanish, he must know a fair amount of English after more than a year with the Whites.

Bamford applause sums up team spirit

A few little nuggets of how the team is bonding from the session, but the loudest was the appreciation Patrick Bamford received for one quality finish inside the box.

Stuart Dallas exclusive: Leeds United man on head injury, Anthony Martial and 24/7 tour life

The team had been split into three units: three crossers on the left, three crossers on the right and seven others in the middle either attacking or defending the balls as they came in.

Bamford ran onto one from the left and cracked it with minimal effort into the top corner with his left peg. Bielsa, stood in the goalmouth, loved it and his team-mates even applauded it, something they did not do for anyone else.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-training-bielsa-sydney-16616905.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Ser ikke ut som du tok det til deg det med klipp og lim! Kan du ikke bare legge ut linkene? Hvis du gidder å "klippe og lime" hele dagen så gidder du vel å rydde litt i det du klippe og limer? Er det virkelig for mye forlangt?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22. Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. My form earned me an England call-up. Am I a £35m striker? No. I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.

Promotion 2010

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #618 på: Juli 20, 2019, 12:19:19 »
Leeds United training - attack v defence


Leeds United stepped up their final preparations for the second and last friendly of their Australia tour on Friday evening at Sydney Olympic Park.

Unlike Tuesday’s session at Perth’s HBF Park, where 3,500-plus fans attended, New South Wales Rugby League’s Centre of Excellence hosted a handful of media with the team.

LeedsLive went along to watch the session, which is the first time any media have been invited to watch the team train under Marcelo Bielsa’s supervision.

Here’s a few things we picked out from the session.

 Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia`
Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: John Peters/Manchester United via Getty Images)

Bielsa steals the show

Naturally, given how little we have seen of the head coach since May’s play-off agony, any opportunity to see the man at work is to be enjoyed.

The Argentine tends to speak very little, but takes a step back and watches absolutely everything he can. He seems to offer small bursts of direction from which assistants Diego Reyes and Diego Flores do the rest with the players.

Bielsa was pacing around the pitch while the players warmed up, including the goalkeepers. When it came to get down to business, he was nearby, stood in the middle of the various huddles, spoke and then moved away.

Leeds United's Australia tour
Perhaps most charming was the succinct, but warm encouragement he gave his players when they impressed him.

During one drill which tested how quickly they closed down an opponent, Stuart Dallas and Gaetano Berardi were audibly commended.

“Good, very good, Dallas!”

“Good, Bera!”

Stuart Dallas can be seen wearing a heads the ball bandage after the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
It’s simple, but given how little he speaks and how much distance he keeps, those few words must mean so much to each player, given Bielsa’s stature in the sport.

Forshaw out

The only one of the 16 players not to be involved in training was Adam Forshaw, who is still struggling with the knock he took off Ashley Young on Wednesday.

The Victor Orta interview in full - every word Leeds United chief said in his rare sit-down

The Manchester United captain slid through Forshaw late in the match, wide on the touchline and he faces a late fitness test before Saturday’s game.

Dallas was fine and is in contention after his head injury.

Bielsa’s English may be better than we know

Forshaw was out on the pitch with his team-mates, but keeping them company in his trainers rather than knocking about in his boots.

I noticed he was out there because he was in conversation with Bielsa without a translator. It wasn’t a 30-minute chat over a coffee, but long enough for the Argentine to hold his own.

Adam Forshaw acknowledges supporters after a pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
While his more complicated, lengthy instructions were bellowed in Spanish, he must know a fair amount of English after more than a year with the Whites.

Bamford applause sums up team spirit

A few little nuggets of how the team is bonding from the session, but the loudest was the appreciation Patrick Bamford received for one quality finish inside the box.

Stuart Dallas exclusive: Leeds United man on head injury, Anthony Martial and 24/7 tour life

The team had been split into three units: three crossers on the left, three crossers on the right and seven others in the middle either attacking or defending the balls as they came in.

Bamford ran onto one from the left and cracked it with minimal effort into the top corner with his left peg. Bielsa, stood in the goalmouth, loved it and his team-mates even applauded it, something they did not do for anyone else.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-training-bielsa-sydney-16616905.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Ser ikke ut som du tok det til deg det med klipp og lim! Kan du ikke bare legge ut linkene? Hvis du gidder å "klippe og lime" hele dagen så gidder du vel å rydde litt i det du klippe og limer? Er det virkelig for mye forlangt?


SKAL VI HA EN AVSTEMNING PÃ… HVA DU VIL HA PÃ… FORUMET SÃ… BARE SETT IGANG!


Dette er mitt bidrag, om du ikke liker det så skråll!



Jeg liker ikke dine eviglange ranter mot alle og enhver her inne som du ikke er enig i! De innleggene har sitater fra diskusjonene som er meterlange.

Ellers så er vel forøvrig dette innlegget betegnende på deg:


Det burde være litt takhøyde her inne, ellers blir det kjedelig. Det jeg lærte meg fort var at det er lett å komme unna med personangrep hvis man har noen smilys bak...

 ;)
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

HåvardK

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #619 på: Juli 20, 2019, 13:23:21 »
Kjør gjerne avstemning. Jeg stemmer for Promo.

Leedsfan

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #620 på: Juli 20, 2019, 13:26:03 »
Leeds United training - attack v defence


Leeds United stepped up their final preparations for the second and last friendly of their Australia tour on Friday evening at Sydney Olympic Park.

Unlike Tuesday’s session at Perth’s HBF Park, where 3,500-plus fans attended, New South Wales Rugby League’s Centre of Excellence hosted a handful of media with the team.

LeedsLive went along to watch the session, which is the first time any media have been invited to watch the team train under Marcelo Bielsa’s supervision.

Here’s a few things we picked out from the session.

 Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia`
Marcelo Bielsa shouts at the fourth official during the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: John Peters/Manchester United via Getty Images)

Bielsa steals the show

Naturally, given how little we have seen of the head coach since May’s play-off agony, any opportunity to see the man at work is to be enjoyed.

The Argentine tends to speak very little, but takes a step back and watches absolutely everything he can. He seems to offer small bursts of direction from which assistants Diego Reyes and Diego Flores do the rest with the players.

Bielsa was pacing around the pitch while the players warmed up, including the goalkeepers. When it came to get down to business, he was nearby, stood in the middle of the various huddles, spoke and then moved away.

Leeds United's Australia tour
Perhaps most charming was the succinct, but warm encouragement he gave his players when they impressed him.

During one drill which tested how quickly they closed down an opponent, Stuart Dallas and Gaetano Berardi were audibly commended.

“Good, very good, Dallas!”

“Good, Bera!”

Stuart Dallas can be seen wearing a heads the ball bandage after the pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
It’s simple, but given how little he speaks and how much distance he keeps, those few words must mean so much to each player, given Bielsa’s stature in the sport.

Forshaw out

The only one of the 16 players not to be involved in training was Adam Forshaw, who is still struggling with the knock he took off Ashley Young on Wednesday.

The Victor Orta interview in full - every word Leeds United chief said in his rare sit-down

The Manchester United captain slid through Forshaw late in the match, wide on the touchline and he faces a late fitness test before Saturday’s game.

Dallas was fine and is in contention after his head injury.

Bielsa’s English may be better than we know

Forshaw was out on the pitch with his team-mates, but keeping them company in his trainers rather than knocking about in his boots.

I noticed he was out there because he was in conversation with Bielsa without a translator. It wasn’t a 30-minute chat over a coffee, but long enough for the Argentine to hold his own.

Adam Forshaw acknowledges supporters after a pre-season friendly match between Manchester United and Leeds United at Optus Stadium on July 17, 2019 in Perth, Australia(Image: Will Russell/Getty Images)
While his more complicated, lengthy instructions were bellowed in Spanish, he must know a fair amount of English after more than a year with the Whites.

Bamford applause sums up team spirit

A few little nuggets of how the team is bonding from the session, but the loudest was the appreciation Patrick Bamford received for one quality finish inside the box.

Stuart Dallas exclusive: Leeds United man on head injury, Anthony Martial and 24/7 tour life

The team had been split into three units: three crossers on the left, three crossers on the right and seven others in the middle either attacking or defending the balls as they came in.

Bamford ran onto one from the left and cracked it with minimal effort into the top corner with his left peg. Bielsa, stood in the goalmouth, loved it and his team-mates even applauded it, something they did not do for anyone else.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-training-bielsa-sydney-16616905.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Ser ikke ut som du tok det til deg det med klipp og lim! Kan du ikke bare legge ut linkene? Hvis du gidder å "klippe og lime" hele dagen så gidder du vel å rydde litt i det du klippe og limer? Er det virkelig for mye forlangt?


SKAL VI HA EN AVSTEMNING PÃ… HVA DU VIL HA PÃ… FORUMET SÃ… BARE SETT IGANG!


Dette er mitt bidrag, om du ikke liker det så skråll!



Jeg liker ikke dine eviglange ranter mot alle og enhver her inne som du ikke er enig i! De innleggene har sitater fra diskusjonene som er meterlange.

Ellers så er vel forøvrig dette innlegget betegnende på deg:


Det burde være litt takhøyde her inne, ellers blir det kjedelig. Det jeg lærte meg fort var at det er lett å komme unna med personangrep hvis man har noen smilys bak...

 ;)

Ser ut som jeg må fortsette å scrolle forbi alle klipp og lim innleggene dine. Du tar absolutt ikke ballen, du er jo kun ute etter mannen og det er nesten litt flaut å se en moderator lire av seg så mye rart når noen spør om du kan gjøre en liten jobb med alle de cut and paste innleggene dine, det er jo ikke få av de. Du klarer å finne tid til å redigere andre sine trådtitler, men å redigere dine egne uoversiktlige innlegg tar du deg ikke tid til.

Er det mulig å blokke deg, dvs slippe å se alle disse klipp og lim innleggene dine?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22. Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. My form earned me an England call-up. Am I a £35m striker? No. I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.

Leedsfan

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #621 på: Juli 20, 2019, 13:27:12 »
Kjør gjerne avstemning. Jeg stemmer for Promo.

Så du vil du fortsatt ha klipp og lim innleggene uten 60 sekunder med redigering?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22. Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. My form earned me an England call-up. Am I a £35m striker? No. I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.

HåvardK

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #622 på: Juli 20, 2019, 14:47:22 »
Kjør gjerne avstemning. Jeg stemmer for Promo.

Så du vil du fortsatt ha klipp og lim innleggene uten 60 sekunder med redigering?
Jeg foretrekker selvsagt at de er redigert, men setter pris på å få presentert såpass mye relevant stoff at jeg greier å scrolle.
Derimot blir jeg irritert over dere som for en hver pris skal ha metervis med sitering når det foregår diskusjoner. Da blir det scrolling, da.
Når det er sagt, føler jeg ikke for å blokkere noen meddebattanter. Tror jeg.

Leedsfan

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #623 på: Juli 20, 2019, 14:56:35 »
Kjør gjerne avstemning. Jeg stemmer for Promo.

Så du vil du fortsatt ha klipp og lim innleggene uten 60 sekunder med redigering?
Jeg foretrekker selvsagt at de er redigert, men setter pris på å få presentert såpass mye relevant stoff at jeg greier å scrolle.
Derimot blir jeg irritert over dere som for en hver pris skal ha metervis med sitering når det foregår diskusjoner. Da blir det scrolling, da.
Når det er sagt, føler jeg ikke for å blokkere noen meddebattanter. Tror jeg.

Ikke uenig i det med sitatene som blir meg i lange diskusjoner, er sikkert skyldig i det selv så jeg skal skjerpe meg med å ikke sitere unødvendig hvis det kan unngås.

Jeg syns det hadde vært greit å blokkere Promo da han ikke helt takler å bli skrevet til og så går han til angrep så det holder når man blir "konfrontert" med noe han ikke liker. Dessuten så husker jeg mest all den "cut&past'en" hans og det blir så mye av det, i hvert fall for meg som følger med litt ellers også. Blir veldig tunglest når han ikke redigerer noe som helst heller.
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22. Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. My form earned me an England call-up. Am I a £35m striker? No. I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.

Blank_File

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #624 på: Juli 20, 2019, 15:15:52 »
Det er så sabla tungvint å redigere sitering på mobilen. Skikkelig drit. De to gangen i året jeg bruker det på PC så gjør jeg det. Men på mobilen gidder jeg rett og slett ikke.

Leedsfan

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #625 på: Juli 20, 2019, 15:27:47 »
Det er så sabla tungvint å redigere sitering på mobilen. Skikkelig drit. De to gangen i året jeg bruker det på PC så gjør jeg det. Men på mobilen gidder jeg rett og slett ikke.

Enig i det, men når man legger ut hele artikler med masse unødvendig tekst så kan det kanskje vente? Eller er det jeg som er vanskelig eller liker å få ting servert slik bare jeg vil det?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22. Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. My form earned me an England call-up. Am I a £35m striker? No. I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.

HåvardK

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #626 på: Juli 20, 2019, 15:58:53 »
Kjør gjerne avstemning. Jeg stemmer for Promo.

Så du vil du fortsatt ha klipp og lim innleggene uten 60 sekunder med redigering?
Jeg foretrekker selvsagt at de er redigert, men setter pris på å få presentert såpass mye relevant stoff at jeg greier å scrolle.
Derimot blir jeg irritert over dere som for en hver pris skal ha metervis med sitering når det foregår diskusjoner. Da blir det scrolling, da.
Når det er sagt, føler jeg ikke for å blokkere noen meddebattanter. Tror jeg.

Ikke uenig i det med sitatene som blir meg i lange diskusjoner, er sikkert skyldig i det selv så jeg skal skjerpe meg med å ikke sitere unødvendig hvis det kan unngås.

Jeg syns det hadde vært greit å blokkere Promo da han ikke helt takler å bli skrevet til og så går han til angrep så det holder når man blir "konfrontert" med noe han ikke liker. Dessuten så husker jeg mest all den "cut&past'en" hans og det blir så mye av det, i hvert fall for meg som følger med litt ellers også. Blir veldig tunglest når han ikke redigerer noe som helst heller.
Til angrep så det holder? Nå syns jeg du er hårsår. Opplever hans tilsvar til deg som godt innafor.
Og når det gjelder det å "følge med litt ellers også", kan jeg legge til for egen del at vi nok er flere om beinet på det området. Du kan f eks spørre min nærmeste familie om de syns jeg følger litt med på Leeds. Da vil du få svar.

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Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #627 på: Juli 20, 2019, 16:10:26 »
Sånn. Da er det slått fast. :)

Rod Christopher
@rodchristopher9

Saying it here & now: #lufc will score the most league goals this season. Don't worry about defence either. Bielsa's game is forward thinking. Fit, on the front foot & attacking at every opportunity. Of course we'll concede. But tell me a team who don't! We'll outscore opponents.
Tell me - I've got to know
Tell me - Tell me before I go
Does that flame still burn, does that fire still glow
Or has it died out and melted like the snow
Tell me  Tell me

Dylan

Leedsfan

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #628 på: Juli 20, 2019, 16:14:31 »
Kjør gjerne avstemning. Jeg stemmer for Promo.

Så du vil du fortsatt ha klipp og lim innleggene uten 60 sekunder med redigering?
Jeg foretrekker selvsagt at de er redigert, men setter pris på å få presentert såpass mye relevant stoff at jeg greier å scrolle.
Derimot blir jeg irritert over dere som for en hver pris skal ha metervis med sitering når det foregår diskusjoner. Da blir det scrolling, da.
Når det er sagt, føler jeg ikke for å blokkere noen meddebattanter. Tror jeg.

Ikke uenig i det med sitatene som blir meg i lange diskusjoner, er sikkert skyldig i det selv så jeg skal skjerpe meg med å ikke sitere unødvendig hvis det kan unngås.

Jeg syns det hadde vært greit å blokkere Promo da han ikke helt takler å bli skrevet til og så går han til angrep så det holder når man blir "konfrontert" med noe han ikke liker. Dessuten så husker jeg mest all den "cut&past'en" hans og det blir så mye av det, i hvert fall for meg som følger med litt ellers også. Blir veldig tunglest når han ikke redigerer noe som helst heller.
Til angrep så det holder? Nå syns jeg du er hårsår. Opplever hans tilsvar til deg som godt innafor.
Og når det gjelder det å "følge med litt ellers også", kan jeg legge til for egen del at vi nok er flere om beinet på det området. Du kan f eks spørre min nærmeste familie om de syns jeg følger litt med på Leeds. Da vil du få svar.

Hårsår, ikke det at jeg tar det så veldig hardt, men man trenger ikke å være hjernekirurg for å skjønne at Promo tar dette personlig. Synes jeg er på ballen, noen synes kanskje denne ballen er liten, men Promo er på meg!
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auren

Sv: Tema: Den store spillestil tråden!
« Svar #629 på: Juli 20, 2019, 16:19:12 »
Kremt. Det verste jeg vet er å ikke holde seg til topic. Skal vi endre trådnavn til «Den store redigeringstråden»?

Flott at Asbjørn kommer med litt on topic her.

Jeg tror også vi kommer til å dominere kampene stort neste sesong. Men så var det alle disse skadene da...

auren


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