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LUSCOS Forum => Ordet er fritt => Emne startet av: kjelvi på Mars 04, 2007, 10:44:27
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Tidlig opp i dag - 5-mila starter om 30 mins.
Tungsinnet til sengs i går, noe mer offensiv i dag. Trolig bare et psyko-tricks...
Håper likevel at framtidstrua smitter. Mye deppa folk på Forum i går.
Men - ALT HÃ…P ER IKKE UTE!
10 kamper gjenstår - 30 poeng.
Ingen oppsiktsvekkende påstand: 3 av fem klubber rykker ned - Leeds, Southend, QPR, Luton eller Hull.
Barnsley kan ved totalkollaps også bli innblandet.
Utgangspunktet er nedslående og kjent:
19. Barnsley 36 40-61 38
20. Luton 36 46-62 36
21. Hull 35 35-50 35
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22. Queens PR 35 40-56 35
23. Southend 36 36-58 32
24. Leeds 36 36-62 31
Hull og Rangers har en kamp til gode. Ved seiere for begge blir en justert tabell (uten hensyn til målforskjell):
19-21. Barnsley 36 40-61 38
19-21. Hull 36 xx-xx 38
19-21. Queens PR 36 xx-xx 38
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22. Luton 36 46-62 36
23. Southend 36 36-58 32
24. Leeds 36 36-62 31
Gjenstående kamper for Leeds: Luton (h), Leicester (b), Southend (b), Preston (h), Plymouth (h), Colchester (b), Burnley (h), Southampton (b), Ipswich (h) og Derby (h).
Southend: Ipswich (b), Burnley (h), Leeds (h), Hull (b), Colchester(h), Preston (b), Barnsley (h), Plymouth (b), Luton (h) og Southampton (b).
QPR: Sheff. W (b), Derby (b), Leicester (b), WBA (h), Coventry (b), Luton (h), Sunderland (b), Cardiff (h), Wolves (b) og Stoke (h).
Hull: Ipswich (h), Preston (b), Luton (b), Sunderland (b), Southend (h), Norwich (h), Wolves (b), Colchester (h), Stoke (b), Cardiff (b) og Plymouth (h).
Luton: Leeds (b), Hull (h), Ipswich (h), Burnley (b), Southampton (h), QPR (b), Plymouth (h), Derby (b), Southend (b) og Sunderland (h).
Ingen av lagene har en enkel kampserie igjen - her er det fluss av 6-poengere mot andre nedrykkskandidater og mot topplag. Slik jeg vurderer det har Luton, Hull og QPR et noe tøffere kampprogram enn Leeds og Southend.
Både matematisk og logisk har selvsagt Leeds muligheter!
Men det krever trolig minst 18-20 poeng, noe som kunne ha vært mulig.
I prinsippet (basert på erfaring i spillestallen, erfaring fra viktige kamper, historikk, m.m.) burde dette være innen rekkevidde. Men det er under 'normale' omstendigheter.
Er pinlig klar over at det er lite som er 'normalt' på Elland Road for tiden. Laget spiller elendig, manageren skjønner ikke bæret, mer eller mindre kontinuerlig bråk, støy og uro i klubben, forsvaret lekker, nøkkelspillere tar ikke ansvaret, ikke scorer vi, m.m. Lista kan bli meeeget lang.
Men skulle det komme et skifte - f.eks. neste helg mot Luton.
Skulle vi for en gangs skyld få flyt med flere seier i rekke (riktignok - vi har ikke vunnet to på rad siden september i fjor!), samt at noen av de andre får oppskriftsmessig klabb og babb kan dette gå.
Like skuffet og forbannet som alle andre. Men ikke helt klar til å akseptere Division 1 ennå.
Hvor realistisk det er, er jeg litt usikker på - men: Dette kan gå.
Spådom:
Seiere for Leeds: Luton, Southend, Plymouth og Colchester.
Poengdeling: Leicester og Ipswich
Tap: Preston, Burnley, Southampton og Derby.
Dette gir 15 poeng. I tillegg innkasserer jeg en overraskelse-seier over Preston eller Burnley.
Vips - så er plassen sikret!
Hadde det bare vært så enkelt....!
Men det er lov å håpe, tro, ønske, be.....
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/04/12/viduka.jpg)
Glory Days is comming back!
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Rett fra byen du og?
- Dennis
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nope
har sovet mine fire timer- og klar for mer gull. tror på oddbjørn i dag!
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Ok! [:p]
- Dennis
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Er redd du har mer peiling på langrenn enn fotball Kjell Bjørn...[:)]
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Originally posted by kjelvi
nope
har sovet mine fire timer- og klar for mer gull. tror på oddbjørn i dag!
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Fint innlegg kjelvi. Men vi har ikke vunnet to på rad i det hele tatt denne sesongen. Vi har kun klart en på rad med seier og så en uavgjort (de to første kampene bla).
Og jammen fikk du rett i din spådom over Odd Bjørn. Vi får håpe at spådommen din om Leeds også går i oppfyllelse.
auren
Leeds
Till
I
Die!
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Satser på at laget nå har skjønt at det som skal til er å putte ballen inn i det firkanta buret på andre siden av banen - selv om det måtte en motspiller til for å få hull på denne byllen.
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Crainey 4 Scotland!
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gjekk jo glimrande med skigåerane men er nok litt meir skeptisk til andre del av spådommen.. men håpa til det motsatte er bevist skal eg...
#1795
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Originally posted by auren
Fint innlegg kjelvi. Men vi har ikke vunnet to på rad i det hele tatt denne sesongen. Vi har kun klart en på rad med seier og så en uavgjort (de to første kampene bla).
i serien ja.
men 3-1 over barnet 19/9 i LGCP og 3-2 over birmingham 23/9 i CCC - to på rad!
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Wise har i alle fall fortsatt trua:
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,982_1957925,00.html
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Realistisk sett er sesongen over og nedrykket til League One er klart. Kroppsholdningene til Leeds United-spillerne fortalte om resignasjon i gaar. Naar til og med kapteinen paa laget ikke gidder mer, er det hele selvsagt labert. Matematisk sett kan Leeds United klare seg, men dessverre vil det ikke bli tilfellet.
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Genuinely Believe We'll Get Out Of This - Wise
Dennis Wise backs the team to get out of the bottom three - the ones that want to stay that is!
"It's better that the fans have a go at me. Bring it on. Have a go at me," Wise said.
"I understand that they're disappointed. They have got to be disappointed, the position we're in, but have a go at me, don't put my players under more pressure.
"It's not fair to say the players are not giving me everything.
"Please don't knock my players. My players have done fantastic. They're all in it together. They are trying to dig in and get out of it.
"You'll not see one of my players jack it in at the moment. They are giving me all the effort I could ask of them and they have got to keep doing what they're doping and keep believing.
"I genuinely believe we'll get out of this. I do not regret taking on this job in a million years, I'm telling you."
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I mangel av en egnet tråd:
4/3:
1976: Former Bradford City, Birmingham City and Burnley attacker Robbie Blake (pictured), now at struggling Leeds United, is born. (Celebrates 31st birthday).
(http://images.skysports.com/images/playerpics05_06/Championship/Leeds/blake-arms.JPG)
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Eg vil nødig ta motet og håpet frå dåkke, men er det greit viss eg har gitt opp og belagar meg på League One?
Vi har riktignok spelt relativt jamne kampar den siste tida, men vi manglar det "lille ekstra" som krevst. Laga over oss tapar også ofte, men avstanden krympar ikkje så lenge vi ikkje presterar sjølv. Difor har eg no gitt opp!
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alt håp er ikke ute, men trua mi forsvann med Nicko saken. Jeg tror IKKE vi kommer oss ut av dette.
Er 100% innstillt på League 1 neste sesong, uten Bates og Wise.
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Originally posted by Per-Stian
Eg vil nødig ta motet og håpet frå dåkke, men er det greit viss eg har gitt opp og belagar meg på League One?
Vi har riktignok spelt relativt jamne kampar den siste tida, men vi manglar det "lille ekstra" som krevst. Laga over oss tapar også ofte, men avstanden krympar ikkje så lenge vi ikkje presterar sjølv. Difor har eg no gitt opp!
Er helt greit, har gitt opp håpet jeg også. Det er så utrolig synd og trist at vi må spille i League One neste sesong. Kommer til å bli veldig tøft å rykke opp også, alle de andre lagene er ute etter å slå storklubben Leeds. Blir nok maaange år til vi får se Leeds i Premier League igjen hvis vi rykker ned, derfor var det så utrolig viktig at Wise skulle klare å holde laget oppe i CCC.
Jeg føler meg sviktet av ledelsen, manageren og spillerne som har klart å kjørt den kjære klubben min ned i gjørma. De skyldige må stå til ansvar for det de har gjort, situasjonen er helt uakseptabelt!
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Den einaste "ansvarlege" som får merke konsekvensen av eit nedrykk er Ken Bates. Han har nok allereie tapt mykje på klubben vår og blir nok tvungen til å selje oss på billegsal til sommaren.
Trenarteamet og spelarane tapar nok mykje av sitt tynnslitte omdømme, men iallfall nokre av spelarane vil finne seg nye klubbar i CCC. Wise må nok sjå seg om etter eit nytt yrke, for hans "kunnskapar" held ikkje på dette nivået.
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Glitrende start på tråden, Kjell Bjørn!
Og så tidspunktet da (kom meg ikke opp før 06:30 for å følge det inn jeg - men det var beregnet...).
Jeg digger å lage slike "end-of-season-tales" selv, og har hele tiden vært bevisst at det fortsatt er hope in the hanging snore (fritt etter Eggen).
Men vi måååå begynne å vinna da, fortere enn svint.
Still believin' [:)]
What good am I If I'm like all the rest
If I just turn away, when I see how you're dressed
If I shut myself off so I can't hear you cry
What good am I?
B.Dylan
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For ordens skyld, spiller neppe noen rolle, men vi har Derby borte i siste kamp denne begredelige sesongen[;)] Den vinner vi akkurat som mot Arsenal i siste kamp sesongen 2002/03.
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Originally posted by kjelvi
Tidlig opp i dag - 5-mila starter om 30 mins.
Tungsinnet til sengs i går, noe mer offensiv i dag. Trolig bare et psyko-tricks...
Håper likevel at framtidstrua smitter. Mye deppa folk på Forum i går.
Men - ALT HÃ…P ER IKKE UTE!
10 kamper gjenstår - 30 poeng.
Ingen oppsiktsvekkende påstand: 3 av fem klubber rykker ned - Leeds, Southend, QPR, Luton eller Hull.
Barnsley kan ved totalkollaps også bli innblandet.
Utgangspunktet er nedslående og kjent:
19. Barnsley 36 40-61 38
20. Luton 36 46-62 36
21. Hull 35 35-50 35
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22. Queens PR 35 40-56 35
23. Southend 36 36-58 32
24. Leeds 36 36-62 31
Hull og Rangers har en kamp til gode. Ved seiere for begge blir en justert tabell (uten hensyn til målforskjell):
19-21. Barnsley 36 40-61 38
19-21. Hull 36 xx-xx 38
19-21. Queens PR 36 xx-xx 38
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22. Luton 36 46-62 36
23. Southend 36 36-58 32
24. Leeds 36 36-62 31
Gjenstående kamper for Leeds: Luton (h), Leicester (b), Southend (b), Preston (h), Plymouth (h), Colchester (b), Burnley (h), Southampton (b), Ipswich (h) og Derby (h).
Southend: Ipswich (b), Burnley (h), Leeds (h), Hull (b), Colchester(h), Preston (b), Barnsley (h), Plymouth (b), Luton (h) og Southampton (b).
QPR: Sheff. W (b), Derby (b), Leicester (b), WBA (h), Coventry (b), Luton (h), Sunderland (b), Cardiff (h), Wolves (b) og Stoke (h).
Hull: Ipswich (h), Preston (b), Luton (b), Sunderland (b), Southend (h), Norwich (h), Wolves (b), Colchester (h), Stoke (b), Cardiff (b) og Plymouth (h).
Luton: Leeds (b), Hull (h), Ipswich (h), Burnley (b), Southampton (h), QPR (b), Plymouth (h), Derby (b), Southend (b) og Sunderland (h).
Ingen av lagene har en enkel kampserie igjen - her er det fluss av 6-poengere mot andre nedrykkskandidater og mot topplag. Slik jeg vurderer det har Luton, Hull og QPR et noe tøffere kampprogram enn Leeds og Southend.
Både matematisk og logisk har selvsagt Leeds muligheter!
Men det krever trolig minst 18-20 poeng, noe som kunne ha vært mulig.
I prinsippet (basert på erfaring i spillestallen, erfaring fra viktige kamper, historikk, m.m.) burde dette være innen rekkevidde. Men det er under 'normale' omstendigheter.
Er pinlig klar over at det er lite som er 'normalt' på Elland Road for tiden. Laget spiller elendig, manageren skjønner ikke bæret, mer eller mindre kontinuerlig bråk, støy og uro i klubben, forsvaret lekker, nøkkelspillere tar ikke ansvaret, ikke scorer vi, m.m. Lista kan bli meeeget lang.
Men skulle det komme et skifte - f.eks. neste helg mot Luton.
Skulle vi for en gangs skyld få flyt med flere seier i rekke (riktignok - vi har ikke vunnet to på rad siden september i fjor!), samt at noen av de andre får oppskriftsmessig klabb og babb kan dette gå.
Like skuffet og forbannet som alle andre. Men ikke helt klar til å akseptere Division 1 ennå.
Hvor realistisk det er, er jeg litt usikker på - men: Dette kan gå.
Spådom:
Seiere for Leeds: Luton, Southend, Plymouth og Colchester.
Poengdeling: Leicester og Ipswich
Tap: Preston, Burnley, Southampton og Derby.
Dette gir 15 poeng. I tillegg innkasserer jeg en overraskelse-seier over Preston eller Burnley.
Vips - så er plassen sikret!
Hadde det bare vært så enkelt....!
Men det er lov å håpe, tro, ønske, be.....
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/04/12/viduka.jpg)
Glory Days is comming back!
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Det er ikke realistisk og tro at dette skal gå bra,ser ikke at vi plutselig skal ta masse poeng
nå. Selv med seier mot Luton,så klarer vi ikke ta igjen dette. Men vi kan hjelpe luton ned..
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Originally posted by Trygve
Det er ikke realistisk og tro at dette skal gå bra,ser ikke at vi plutselig skal ta masse poeng
nå. Selv med seier mot Luton,så klarer vi ikke ta igjen dette. Men vi kan hjelpe luton ned..
Det er fantastisk at noen fortsatt klarer å se muligheten og det er jo selvsagt riktig at vi kan klare det, men personlig har jeg rett og slett gitt opp håpet. Jeg bare klamrer meg til at vi overlever som klubb etter nedrykket. At noen kanskje forbarmer seg over ulykksalige Leeds United og hjelper økonomisk slik at vi kan komme tilbake en gang i tiden. Måtte det endelig skje i mine levedager, er tross alt snart midt i førtiåra!!!
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Når alt kommer til alt, så er det dårlig ledelse som har dratt klubben vår ned i (snart) L1. Ingenting annet, tragisk å ikke beholde Hulse, ikke satse alt på å beholde Miller, og forferdelig å selge Killa...Feil på feil hele veien. Og stor feil av Wise å utnevne pingla Nicho som capt..lett å si i ettertid, men dog.
Men det kan gå veien...og Cresswell og Healy scorer to tre mål hver..i hver kamp.... ;o)
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Originally posted by fmtj
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Originally posted by Trygve
Det er ikke realistisk og tro at dette skal gå bra,ser ikke at vi plutselig skal ta masse poeng
nå. Selv med seier mot Luton,så klarer vi ikke ta igjen dette. Men vi kan hjelpe luton ned..
Det er fantastisk at noen fortsatt klarer å se muligheten og det er jo selvsagt riktig at vi kan klare det, men personlig har jeg rett og slett gitt opp håpet. Jeg bare klamrer meg til at vi overlever som klubb etter nedrykket. At noen kanskje forbarmer seg over ulykksalige Leeds United og hjelper økonomisk slik at vi kan komme tilbake en gang i tiden. Måtte det endelig skje i mine levedager, er tross alt snart midt i førtiåra!!!
Amen!
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Originally posted by fmtj
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Originally posted by Trygve
Det er ikke realistisk og tro at dette skal gå bra,ser ikke at vi plutselig skal ta masse poeng
nå. Selv med seier mot Luton,så klarer vi ikke ta igjen dette. Men vi kan hjelpe luton ned..
Det er fantastisk at noen fortsatt klarer å se muligheten og det er jo selvsagt riktig at vi kan klare det, men personlig har jeg rett og slett gitt opp håpet.
Tro kan løfte fjell....
Har vel ikke sagt at jeg tror vi klarer det, men bare peker på at muligheten er der.
Misset vel egentlig troen etter Wednesday-mageplasket, samt Niko-bråket - som må funke negativt i spillegruppa.
Men kanskje igjen på lørdags eftan har vi troa igjen - etter en 2-3 målsseier over Luton (sic...).
Få ting svinger så mye som stemninga på Forum.
En dag støtter man Wise, for så å hate han dagen etter.
Playoff-ambisjoner en uke, vil droppe å være supporter uka etter.
En dag er Niko konge, dagen etter Quisling.
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Så lenge der er teori, så er det håp... Slutt å sutre.. VI KLARER DETTE !!!
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Kan jo hende Nicholls´ patetiske sorti snarere øker enn minker motivasjonen til å banke Luton. Laget har jo vunnet rett etter uheldige tildragelser før ...
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Crainey 4 Scotland!
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"Laget har jo vunnet rett etter uheldige tildragelser før ..."
Skulle vel lagt mitt på tabellen i år da :)
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Kan jo hende Nicholls´ patetiske sorti snarere øker enn minker motivasjonen til å banke Luton. Laget har jo vunnet rett etter uheldige tildragelser før ...
Skulle vel snart være på topp av tabellen da!!! :-)
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Harselas på Leeds' bekostning i Guardian's tidvis hysteriske morsome 'Fiver' (men ikke i dag!):
LEEDS BE HAVIN' YOU
Ah hello there, Nasty Leeds, we've been expecting you. Please, step inside. The Fiver's all-new psychiatric facility has been custom-made to cater to your needs: our demoralised and underperforming staff are at your service at all times, as a special tribute to your own; we also offer electrotherapy, as a homage to your chairman Ken Bates; and, as a special treat, we'll make you pay ludicrously large fees that we know you can't afford, in memory of the man who set your problems snowballing in the first place, the great Peter Ridsdale. So tell us, what's on your mind?
You've got a sinking feeling? Well of course you do! But don't worry, things will stabilise over the coming weeks - in fact, since you're at the bottom of the Championship you won't fall any farther until May, when you'll plummet to the third tier of English football for the first time ever. What's that, you're feeling unloved? Well of course you are! Not only did your manager claim one of your own players leaked his plans to opponents Crystal Palace before a recent league match, but he now says your captain, Kevin Nicholls, wants to return to the club he left last summer. And let's face it, you really know you're up the creek when someone says he'd rather be in Luton!
You're having trouble identifying your priorities? Well of course you are! While Premiership clubs are slashing ticket prices to retain fans - the very people on whom their futures depend - Bates is stubbornly maintaining Elland Road prices at Big Cup levels while the team serve up League One fare. That's just not right, Nasty Leeds. What's more, Bates has risked landing himself in legal bother by publishing the address of a former club suit in the programme for last Saturday's miserable 3-2 defeat by 10-man Sheffield Wednesday. Melvyn Levi, who's in a dispute with Bates over a share issue, today railed: "He's encouraging fans to come around to my house after describing me in the worst possible terms ... it's totally disgraceful ... he should concentrate on sorting out the many problems within the club rather than persecute me in language the N@zis wouldn't use."
Of course, your chairman isn't in the least bit remorseful: "He's lucky I didn't put in his telephone number," roared the rabble-rouser before snorting "I'm waiting for his writ ... if he's got a problem he should speak to me directly." On second thoughts, don't step inside, Nasty Leeds. The law forbids us applying the treatment you need. Euthanasia is legal in Switzerland, but the irony is you wouldn't need it if there was any chance of you ever getting into Europe again.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/fiver/
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Time to plan for the future
Some Leeds United fans are so convinced the club will be relegated, they want manager Dennis Wise to start thinking about rebuilding for next season.
Supporters' Club chairman Ray Fell said: "No one will quite give up hope until it is certain we are going down but there are some fans who are beginning to say it's time to take it on the chin and look to the future.
"We are all perplexed at the turmoil at the club. Nothing is going right off the pitch and we don't look like winning a game on it."
Recently, Leeds have had an unidentified mole' leaking team news to an opponent and captain Kevin Nicholls wishing to leave the club to return to fellow relegation strugglers Luton, who Leeds next meet.
Meanwhile, chairman Ken Bates has had to apologise to former chairman Leslie Silver, who was upset because Bates had claimed to be the only director in recent years not to take money out of the club.
Kilde: http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yorksport/display.var.1237453.0.time_to_plan_for_the_future.php
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Hull tap mot Ipswich og seier mot Luton på lørdag, så er det fortsatt et lite håp.........
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Det har vært en meget turbulent start på året.
Dave Nattan - en av veteranene på Leedslist - har oppsummert hva som har vært de store temaene på de ulike Leeds Utd-stedene:
"Since Jan in no particular order, here is a list of things we have discussed \ got annoyed over.
Off the pitch
1.The mole - and the way it was all handled
2.The Captain deserting the sinking ship
3.The chairman inciting fans to attack a (ex?) director and being reported to police
4.Dave Jones offering to fight fans over a chant tha,t whatever your views is sung by other fans at him too but with no response from him
5.The Wilkinson rumours of a takeover
6.The arena \ hotel \ casino plans
7. Crowd of 29,500 turning up to show up Bates ticket price policy
On the pitch \ team related
1. The Gary Kelly conspiracy (now joined by the Derry one)
2. Our FA Cup run effectively lasting 15mins before we were 2- 0 down at WBA
3. Bringing in 2 top quality players - Thompson and Flo then seeing them both get injured
4. Beating Hull away only to have our bubble burst by the fact that we acutally went down one place in the League to rock bottom
5. Failing to score or get a point against 9 men at Cardiff
6. Scoring at Birmingham only for the goal not to be given
7. Conceding a fluke \ wonder goal against Wednesday followed by another compared in some papers to Brazils in 1970 WC Final but then pulling 2 back in the dying minutes and still having time to hit the bar !"
Tydligvis stort sett de samme temaene som vi på Forum, selv om jeg tror vi har brukt mye mer tid på Mr. Wise og Mr. Bates.
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Bates: Wise must sort it out
Ken Bates will leave the fate of Kevin Nicholls in Dennis Wise's hands after insisting the midfielder's request to leave Leeds United was a "managerial matter".
Nicholls is less than a season into the four-year contract he signed with United last summer, but he looks set for a premature exit from Elland Road after being stripped of the captaincy last week.
Wise demoted Nicholls and dropped him from the squad for Saturday's game against Sheffield Wednesday following the midfielder's admission that he wanted to return to his former club Luton on loan.
Wise has refused to sanction a deal with the Kenilworth Road club, but admitted he will allow Nicholls to leave Elland Road in the summer.
United would be reluctant to release him, however, without recouping the entirety of the £700,000 fee they paid to Luton for the midfielder's signature seven months ago.
Wise and Bates have held talks over the issue, and United's chairman is believed to support his manager's decision to strip Nicholls of the captaincy.
But Bates will leave Wise to handle the midfielder's future despite the sizeable fee invested in Nicholls last summer.
Bates refused to comment on whether Nicholls would play for United again, but said: "It's a disappointing situation. I'm very surprised by it.
"But it's a managerial matter, and one that the manager will deal with. It's only right that I leave it to him."
Nicholls' midfield colleague Jonathan Douglas carried the armband through Saturday's 3-2 defeat to Wednesday and will retain the captaincy for the rest of the season.
The controversy surrounding Nicholls has been fuelled by the fact that United are preparing to host Luton at Elland Road on Saturday, a match which both relegation-threatened clubs need to win.
Bates said: "The most important thing is that we beat Luton. I hope this will galvanise the other players and make them more determined."
United striker Ian Moore, meanwhile, has supported Wise's decision to appoint Douglas as captain, saying: "He's got a lot of respect from the lads.
"I travel (to Leeds) with him every morning and I don't think there was a better decision than making him captain."
Kilde: YEP (http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2098690&SectionID=46)
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For dei som har lyst å predikere sesongen[:D]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_div_1/predictor/default.stm
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1. omgang: Southampton 3 Leeds 0
2. omgang: Southampton 3 Leeds 4
[:D]
Job Done Preston, *******
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Prediction ferdig... Leeds nr 21, til tross for 0-5 mot Derby i siste kamp...
6 lag under 50p...
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Min krystallkule viser at vi klarer oss.
1 Derby 46 22 92
2 Preston 46 21 87
3 Sunderland 46 27 84
4 Birmingham 46 21 84
5 West Brom 46 30 83
6 Southampton 46 18 76
7 Cardiff 46 17 76
8 Wolverhampton 46 3 75
9 Stoke 46 10 63
10 Colchester 46 7 63
11 Sheff Wed 46 -3 62
12 Norwich 46 -9 59
13 Crystal Palace 46 0 58
14 Plymouth 46 -3 57
15 Burnley 46 -3 57
16 Coventry 46 -11 57
17 Ipswich 46 -4 56
18 Hull 46 -18 50
19 Leicester 46 -10 49
20 Leeds 46 -23 48
21 Southend 46 -21 46
22 QPR 46 -24 46
23 Luton 46 -21 45
24 Barnsley 46 -26 45
Trenge vel for fakerten ikkje ha nåken signatur heller eg, vel! [:D]
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I Norge er jeg Viking fan å regner med å tror å håper på at det samme skjer at vi klarer oss akkurat, men d trenger ikke bli like jævlig nervepirrende som Viking gjorde det i 5-0 kampen mot Brann. Men vi rykker ikke ned, vi klarer oss med ett nødskrik!!!
Side before self!!!
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Whatever Happened To Yorkshire Football?
The final league table for the last pre-Premiership season of 1991/92 boasts two Yorkshire clubs in the top three and another in ninth. This season, if Yorkshire's sole top-flight representatives finish in 17th, they'll be happy. These really are dark, dire days for Yorkshire football.
Below the Premiership, there are four Yorkshire clubs in the Championship - three of them are involved in a relegation battle, with Leeds not even bothering with the battle much anymore.
At Elland Road on Saturday I saw them produce yet another disorganised, disjointed performance against the Owls in a Yorkshire derby that could be as rare as canapes in this once-great footballing county next season. Except, of course, in League One, which could be a practically all-Yorkshire affair.
All four of the region's Championship clubs have lost their manager this season, with only Sheffield Wednesday reaping any discernible rewards. Below that, all four of Yorkshire's League One clubs have had a managerial change, with my own beloved Huddersfield following the examples of Doncaster, Rotherham and Bradford City this week with the long-overdue sacking of Peter Jackson.
Who'd have thought that Neil Warnock would have the safest job of anyone in Yorkshire football this season? Or that he'd be one of the few managers not fighting a real relegation battle?
While the north west and London dominate the Premiership, and the midlands dominates the Championship, Yorkshire merely dominates the list of clubs in crisis.
No title wins since 1992, no FA Cup final appearances since 1993, and not a lot of pride in Yorkshire football since then. Where once there was no shortage of success (only glamour), now there's disharmony, financial failure and some really, really rotten football.
The vast majority of clubs in the region are doing appreciably worse than they were 15 years ago - with Leeds the most high-profile example as a club that's dropped the best part of two divisions, lurching from one laughable farce to another.
But it's been difficult for fans of Bradford and Huddersfield to fully glory in this latest fall from grace as glass houses and stone-throwing are not easy bedfellows. If Yorkshire football is in a lull, West Yorkshire football is in a bloody big ditch. Even Halifax Town are rubbish.
Many clubs have suffered over the last 15 years from over-stretching themselves financially, but Yorkshire clubs (despite the stereotypes) have been among the biggest culprits with Leeds, Wednesday and Bradford (Benito Carbone, anyone?) all spending big in an attempt to stay in the Premiership and Huddersfield spending big in an attempt to get there.
The only decent-sized club who have never succumbed to that 'you've got to speculate to accumulate' policy are Sheffield United, and they are now reaping the rewards. They offer the only glimmer of light to the Yorkshire football fan. If they can get back close to the heights of 15 years ago, can other clubs in the area follow their lead? We might never get Yorkshire title-winners again, but it would be nice to feature in something other than a relegation battle...
Sarah Winterburn, Football365.com
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Fra PFA's off. nettsted:
These are dark days for Leeds - from the boardroom to the dressing room
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Championship basement club Leeds seem to be stumbling from one crisis to another this season and now chairman Ken Bates has blamed former director Melvyn Levi for failing to attract new investors.
Bates, 75, stepped up his bitter war of words between the pair in response to Levi's complaint to the Football League that the former Chelsea supremo was not 'fit and proper' to run a club.
Bates said: "He's deliberately and consistently tried to frustrate Leeds United from getting fresh investment into the club. He has deliberately tried to undermine the future of Leeds United and it's important that fact is not lost in the floss. If we fail, it's down to him."
Levi, a member of the previous Elland Road board that sold the club to Bates in January 2005, has also reported the Leeds chairman to the police. Levi was furious when his address was printed in Saturday's match programme as part of an article by Bates in which he described the Leeds-based businessman as 'an enemy within'.
Bates claimed Levi has reneged on the deal when he first purchased the club and his refusal to transfer shares 'has deterred at least two would-be serious investors'.
Levi denies the allegations and hit back, saying: "I have reported him to the police because he put my name and address in Saturday's programme. It's a ridiculous and dangerous thing to do. It's tantamount to incitement to violence. You can't be too sure in this day and age.
"And yesterday I wrote to the Football League to complain that Mr Bates is not a fit and proper person to be a director of a football club and that he had brought the game into disrepute. We will see whether the Football League take it seriously or not.
"Or do they consider it to be okay for club chairmen to behave in this way? If they do, then I'm afraid English football is in a sorry state. I'm a respectable businessman in this city and don't expect to be treated like that."
To add to the mood of doom and gloom at Elland Road, striker Ian Moore said he and his teammates have been left gob-smacked by skipper Kevin Nicholls' announcement that he wants to leave the club and re-join his old team Luton, who are also deep in trouble in the Championship.
Moore added: "The timing could not be any worse as Luton are down there with us. I'm sure the fans won't be happy when they find out and I just can't understand his motives. I thought he was settling in but obviously it's not right.
"There are just so many things going wrong and it seems to be snowballing. The club is going through some of the worst days it probably ever has done and things don't look good at the moment."
Kilde: http://www.givemefootball.com/display.cfm?article=9992&type=1
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Legend tips Wise for great escape
Leeds legend Norman Hunter is backing Dennis Wise's side to narrowly avoid relegation.
The former Leeds and England defender, who now works as a radio summariser, admits the Championship table makes for grim reading, but feels all is not yet lost in their fight for survival.
"The big thing for me is that the other clubs down at the bottom are not pulling away," Hunter said.
"Hull lost their game in hand and everybody apart from Southend lost on Saturday, and they drew.
"There are still six or seven teams in the mix and I don't know why but I have a hunch Leeds will stay up. I just think they can do it."
Wise's side have 10 league games left to preserve their Championship status, starting with Saturday's visit of relegation rivals Luton.
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Healy: Time to pay back fans
David Healy believes it is time Leeds' misfiring players rewarded fans for their support this season.
United are currently bottom of the Championship and face the prospect of a second relegation in four seasons with 10 games remaining.
"I know we're not doing well, but it's nice to see parents and kids," Healy told the club's official website.
"It's nice to sign jerseys and talk to people and it's great to see people supporting the club.
"They've supported us all year on the pitch and off and I'd urge the fans to keep supporting the players. They've tried to help us all through the season and we have to help them.
"The crowd against QPR a few weeks ago inspired the boys, but we didn't get the right result. Hopefully with the attitude and determination to win the game we'll get the result on Saturday."
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quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
Barnsley kan ved totalkollaps også bli innblandet.
Barnsley har bare tre poeng ned til streken og det er jo ikke mye. Men du tenker sikkert i forhold til Leeds.
Egentlig er det ganske utrolig at vi har heng på lagene over med de dårlige resultatene Leeds har hatt.
Det som bekymrer er at det er ingenting som tyder på at Leeds skal gå inn i en periode med bare seire. Wise og Bates prøver alt de kan å få spillerne til ikke å konsentrere om det de skal konsentrere seg om nå i innspurten.
Masinga, medl.nr. 1250
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Tror Barnsley sin "heldige" periode er over nå, og at vil slite fremover.Kanskje er Southend sin
vilje til og vinne kamper over om de går på tap til helgen.
En uavgjort mellom Leeds og luton vil passe de andre lagene bra, og kan være nådestøtet for Leeds.Samtidig som luton fortsatt er med blant lagene i bunn.
Hull møter Preston,og kan gå på tap her. South. spiller borte mot Ipsw. og kan også få et tap.
qpr spiller hjemme mot sheff, og kan være et av bunnlagene som har muligheter for 3 poeng.
Barnsley går nok mot en poengløs helg.
Så 3 poeng på lørdag er utrolig viktig for at det skal være noe håp igjen.
Kun seier er godt nok,resultatene i de andre kampene kan ikke gå vår vei for evig.
Tap og det er definitivt over for denne sesongen,taper vi denne , ser jeg ikke hvor vi skal kunne ta poengene.....................
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http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=163845
Litt sent av Healy å komme med denne nå, pr.dato er denne sesongen den verste whatever[V]
Tror allikevel vi klarer å berge plassen og vi får en kjempeopptur neste sesong, mye likt Derby.
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Ingen grunn til å grave seg helt ned enda. Det er tross alt bare 5 poeng vi snakker om (legger på ett pga den begredelige målforskjellen). Men som sagt over her, de andre resultatene kan ikke gå vår vei for evig, så vi er nødt til å begynne å plukke poeng nå.
Hvis vi ikke klarer å vinne på lørdag, da er det på tide å begynne å finne frem spadene...
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Vi er vel faktisk avhengig av at noen resultater går vår vei enda,men vi er nødt til og gjøre vår del av jobben. Og dette er den største jobben de har hatt på lang tid.
Vil si det sånn , at klarer leeds dette så har de virkelig gjort en stor prestasjon denne sesongen. Klarer vi og berge plassen ,så skal de ha for en kjempe avslutning.
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Leeds United against the world
It would be easy for Gus Poyet to think the world is against him - as assistant manager of Leeds United it often is.
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But the charismatic Uruguayan is still enjoying life as Dennis Wise's number two despite the predicament his side find themselves in at the bottom of the Championship.
Four points adrift of safety with 10 games to go, the outlook on the pitch is bleak for a Leeds side that have not won in five matches.
That is without mentioning developments off the field where, in the past month, one player has been accused of leaking team news to the opposition and another - captain Kevin Nicholls - has asked for a move to one of their relegation rivals.
All this at a club that just six years ago reached the Champions League semi-final too, as if they are not reminded of that often enough.
There are plenty of people who would love to see Leeds, chairman Ken Bates and Wise end up in League One but Poyet remains unruffled.
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"I know it is good news for some people if Leeds fail. It is much better for the press for something to go wrong here than at smaller clubs"
Leeds assistant boss Gus Poyet
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"When Chelsea went to play a smaller team in the FA Cup the ground was always full of reporters and you are thinking are they here to cover the game or because they are waiting for us to lose to make a bigger story from that.
"I know it is good news for some people if Leeds fail. It is much better for the press for something to go wrong here than at smaller clubs.
"But seriously we don't think about that. I am just trying to get on with my job and to get the best out of our players.
Poyet is clearly flummoxed by the Nicholls situation - which ironically has come about ahead of Leeds' crunch match at Elland Road this weekend.
"Football is crazy," Poyet said. "You come in one morning and everything is alright - then you turn around and your captain wants to go to a team who you are playing on Saturday?
"I have to pinch myself sometimes to see if I am dreaming because that cannot be real.
"Do I feel under pressure now? No. What happened there shows I don't know what is going to happen in the next five minutes, so why worry about Saturday? Too many things can happen."
Leeds' poor form is more of a concern but Poyet is persuasive when he argues why they can still survive.
"If we were still in the position we were in back in December where we were losing by two or three goals and not creating chances there would be problems," he explained.
"You could see then something was missing and I would be really worried if it was the same situation now.
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Nicholls stunned Leeds by asking to return to Luton Town
"But from 1 January onwards we have only lost games by one goal - so it is there for us to see - we are close.
"We just have not scored at the right time - one goal can change not only those games but the whole season. That is why we keep believing and are still really positive.
"We can still win every game. I know it is easy to say it and very difficult to do it - but it is true."
In under two months time Poyet, Wise - and the rest of Leeds - will know whether that belief is misplaced.
Until then Poyet will keep smiling and, apart from staying up, he has only one wish.
"I'd love it to be really quiet between now and the end of the season - so we could just train and play," he said.
"I would love to have a completely normal run-in with no fuss. I don't want any more problems or complaints - or any fights or rumours."
That would certainly help Leeds' cause but, if recent events at Elland Road are anything to go by, it seems a lot to ask.
Kilde: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/6432283.stm
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Kampen denne helgen blir en skjebnekamp for Leeds Utd. Vi har ikke råd til en ny QPR-blemme. Bunnkollega Luton Town må sendes hjem med 0 pts. i bagasjen.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
ALT HÃ…P ER IKKE UTE!
10 kamper gjenstår - 30 poeng.
Like skuffet og forbannet som alle andre. Men ikke helt klar til å akseptere Division 1 ennå.
Hvor realistisk det er, er jeg litt usikker på - men: Dette kan gå.
Få plasser svinger det som på Forum.
For en uke siden djup fortvilelse.
Nå gryende, nøktern og edrulig, optimisme.
Kan fortsatt gå! Mange trøffe kamper, våre nedrykks-rivaler plukker også poeng, men bare to poeng opp til trygg plass.
Har lest gjennom tråden.
Håper at følgende må spise sine hatter og få tilbake troen på 'et liv etter døden', noe som jeg tror de sjøl også håper på:
Robert H, Gunnien, Karl 'Hot Shot'. Per Stian, Trygve, fmtj, Einar, Berlin og Ferre.
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quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
ALT HÃ…P ER IKKE UTE!
10 kamper gjenstår - 30 poeng.
Like skuffet og forbannet som alle andre. Men ikke helt klar til å akseptere Division 1 ennå.
Hvor realistisk det er, er jeg litt usikker på - men: Dette kan gå.
Få plasser svinger det som på Forum.
For en uke siden djup fortvilelse.
Nå gryende, nøktern og edrulig, optimisme.
Kan fortsatt gå! Mange trøffe kamper, våre nedrykks-rivaler plukker også poeng, men bare to poeng opp til trygg plass.
Har lest gjennom tråden.
Håper at følgende må spise sine hatter og få tilbake troen på 'et liv etter døden', noe som jeg tror de sjøl også håper på:
Robert H, Gunnien, Karl 'Hot Shot'. Per Stian, Trygve, fmtj, Einar, Berlin og Ferre.
Eg trur framleis det vert kjempetøft å halde seg i Championship, men eg vil jo gi laget kreditt for gårsdagens siger og innsats. Har stort sett vore positiv heile sesongen, men etter det mållause oppgjeret mot QPR byrja eg å miste trua. Eg nektar forresten å ete nokon hatt dersom vi bergar oss, tek meg heller ei flaske champagne (iallfall innhaldet i flaska)[:D]
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Må fortsatt ta fler poeng en lagene foran oss,og de vil nok ta poeng enda.
Tar de 13 må vi ha 16, tar de 10 må vi ta 13 osv.
Men seieren i går var utrolig viktig,fortsatt muligheter ............
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legger ikke skjul på at jeg er en wise-skeptiker. har ikke store tanker om hans taktiske valg, hans "personalpolitikk", motivivasjonsevner og spillervalg.
om jeg hadde vært 1,23 cm høy og snakker cockney, hadde jeg gjort:
- satset på å spille inn et fast lag de siste ni kampene, bare tatt hensyn til skader og form. minimalt med eksprimentering!
- ikke hentet inn flere lånespiller helt på tampen. ro og forutsigbarhet i troppen!
- ha fokus på det defensive. (fast keeper -Casper, samt en fast forsvarsfirer).
- rendyrket Cresswell som den som skal score målene!
- søkt hjelp til å bedre forholdet til fansen - uavhengig av Bates. mye folk og bra trøkk på tribunen (både hjemme og borte) er livsviktig nå i slutten. Lagets 12. mann!
- holde kjeft om utenomsporslige ting og holde meg på matta. all fokus på det som skjer på matta. hver kamp er som en cupfinale!
- sørge for at Gary Kelly får spille minimum hjemme mot Ipswich (28/4), som er siste hjemmekamp. gå i spissen for å hedre en av klubbens fremste og mest lojale spillere gjennom tidene.
- arrangert en fest for gutta så fort som fa... løse opp stemningen! blir det slåssing, fyll og avisskriveri, litt bra. virker samlende i gruppa. en for alle, alle for en!
og selvsagt - kreve at sommerens tur går til Norge!
Viktigst: Si opp jobben kl. 16 norsk tid søndag 6. mai - og returnere til London!!!!!
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Den hatten skal isåfall nytes som et skikkelig festmåltid[:D]
quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
ALT HÃ…P ER IKKE UTE!
10 kamper gjenstår - 30 poeng.
Like skuffet og forbannet som alle andre. Men ikke helt klar til å akseptere Division 1 ennå.
Hvor realistisk det er, er jeg litt usikker på - men: Dette kan gå.
Få plasser svinger det som på Forum.
For en uke siden djup fortvilelse.
Nå gryende, nøktern og edrulig, optimisme.
Kan fortsatt gå! Mange trøffe kamper, våre nedrykks-rivaler plukker også poeng, men bare to poeng opp til trygg plass.
Har lest gjennom tråden.
Håper at følgende må spise sine hatter og få tilbake troen på 'et liv etter døden', noe som jeg tror de sjøl også håper på:
Robert H, Gunnien, Karl 'Hot Shot'. Per Stian, Trygve, fmtj, Einar, Berlin og Ferre.
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Hadde helt mistet håpet i forrige uke, men etter gårdagens kamp har jeg fått igjen trua - svinger ganske så fort her. Men blir det tap på tirsdag så er vi nede igjen [:I]
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Dette går veien...
Seieren i går snur den negative trenden, og ikke minst[:D], all uflaks!
"Why settle for more, when you can settle for less"
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Det jeg ser på som det viktigste for å kunne overleve i CCC, er at vi må begynne å sette sjansene våre i nettmaskene. Vi har i 2007 skapt en mengde sjanser, sikkert like mange som topplagene om ikke fler, men vi klarer ikke omsette dem.
Det samme skjedde mot Luton i går. Første omgangen var til de grader enveiskjørt og hadde Leeds leda 3-4:0, ville ikke engang Drillo kunnet bortforklare det. [:p]
Nå skal vi ut i tøffe, men ikke uoverkommelige bortekamper fremover. Vi kan vinne kampene, vi kan ta ett poeng og vi kan selvsagt tape. Fortsetter trender med å trenger 10 etthundreprosentsjanser per mål, så taper vi alle sammen. For husk at nå møter vi bedre lag. Luton er CCCs dårligste lag de siste månedene, så den kampen måtte vi vinne uansett.
Tro det eller ei, Leeds United produserer sjanser og til tross for at vi fortsatt gir bort ekstremt billige mål, så slipper vi faktisk inn ganske få mål for tiden (unntatt mot Sheff Wed) noe som fort kan vendes om til noe meget bra! [:)] [;)]
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quote:
Originally posted by Espen J
"Kan jo hende Nicholls´ patetiske sorti snarere øker enn minker motivasjonen til å banke Luton. Laget har jo vunnet rett etter uheldige tildragelser før ..."
Skulle vel snart være på topp av tabellen da!!! :-)
Den som ler sist osv...[;)]
Neste vitamininnsprøyting: Wise går ut og sier han heller ville vært Leicester-manager?
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Crainey 4 Scotland!
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On the plus side for Leeds, their run-in is arguably the kinder of the six clubs battling relegation with five of their future opponents having little to play for in the remainder of the season.
In contrast, QPR's fixture list contains six clubs chasing promotion while Southend have a quartet of six-pointers against their relegation rivals.
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quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
- arrangert en fest for gutta så fort som fa... løse opp stemningen!
Her tror jeg faktisk Wise har den kompetansen som skal til. Han kan utvilsomt stå i spissen for et slikt arrangement, med alt det medfører når engelske fotballspillere skal more seg.
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Plenty Of Cup Finals Left To Play - Wise
Dennis Wise says "plenty of cup finals" are ahead between now and the end of April.
"It was a pleasing response from the players and I don't think anyone could argue that we didn't deserved to win the game," said Wise. "But that is just one game and we still have plenty of cup finals left to play if we are to get ourselves out of trouble.
"We have to maintain that level of performance until the end of the season. I think that if we do that then we shouldn't be too far away.
"We dominated for long spells and I think it would have been extremely harsh on us had they scored with the penalty at the end.
"It was a massive game for us and the fans - who were terrific by the way - and you could see by the reaction of the players how much the goal meant to every single one of them."
Kilde: http://www.leedsutd-mad.co.uk/news/loadfeat.asp?cid=ED11&id=329393
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quote:
Originally posted by baste
On the plus side for Leeds, their run-in is arguably the kinder of the six clubs battling relegation with five of their future opponents having little to play for in the remainder of the season.
In contrast, QPR's fixture list contains six clubs chasing promotion while Southend have a quartet of six-pointers against their relegation rivals.
Lag som i utgangspunktet ikke har noe å spille for får det liksom likevel når de møter oss. "Everybody wants to see Leeds go down" er jo noe man hører ofte om dagen, og det gjelder nok også de lagene vi møter som ligger "midt på tabellen".
- The future's so white, I've got to wear shades [8D]
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Ex-player Micky Adams analyserer nedrykksstriden for BBC.
Han har fortsatt troen!
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Battle to beat Championship drop
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Micky Adams was Coventry manager for 99 games from January 2005 to January 2007 and was at the helm of Leicester in the second tier before that.
The race to avoid relegation from the Championship is hotting up with as few as eight games to go until the season ends on Sunday 6 May. Seven points separate seven teams vying to pull away from the trap door to League One.
And the bottom four are within four points of each other, with three teams set to go down.
Taking the last eight, nine or 10 games, if teams mirror that form through to the end of the season the present bottom three of Leeds, Luton and QPR are doomed, with the latter just missing out on goal difference to Burnley on 44 points.
But former Coventry boss Micky Adams believes the survival mark will be much nearer the division's traditional benchmark of 52 points.
"The clubs at the bottom have to be looking for more than 50 points," he told BBC Sport.
"That means some of them are going to have to find five wins from somewhere in eight matches, and when you consider that some haven't even won 10 games out of 38 it's difficult to see where those wins are going to come from."
Wins are imperative and for Adams, who had been pounding the Championship beat with Coventry for two years up until this January, the means to that end is experience.
Saturday's game between Southend and Leeds is a key match - it's massive
"If they can win games against those around them all the better and teams with bigger squads and experience are the ones more likely to get out of it," he added.
"There are some teams we expected to be down there at the beginning of the season through lack of resources and experience, but then there are also some surprises down there like Leeds.
"But I look at Leeds and I really think they can get out of this situation. They have experience on the pitch and in Dennis Wise, who took Millwall to an FA Cup final.
"Any manager who does that has got a good pedigree."
Leeds have been bottom since mid-January, but if they are going to climb clear, who is going to take their place in the bottom three?
BBC Sport asked Adams, who describes himself as one of football's 'fire-fighters', to run the rule over the clubs in peril at the wrong end of the Championship.
LEEDS
Position: 24th
Record: P38; W10; D5; L23; F38; A63; Pts 35
Form: DLLLWD
Still to play: Southend (a); Preston (h); Plymouth (h); Colchester (a); Burnley (h); Southampton (a); Ipswich (h); Derby (a).
They've got strong characters, people who have experienced the good times and not just the bad at the club, and they need to stand up and be counted.
Leeds haven't scored enough goals, but if you take the last two games in isolation it has been a good return and that sort of form would be enough for them to escape.
The interest and hype can make it very, very hard for the players to perform and the crowd at Elland Road can go one of two ways; if they see their team giving 150% they will be supportive, otherwise they can be quite unforgiving.
But I think they understand the problems Dennis Wise has had, know he won't be giving up and are now backing their boys to the hilt.
Did you know? Leeds still have six players on their books who were in the Championship play-off final last season and four of them played in the draw at Leicester last time out.
LUTON
Position: 23rd
Record: P38; W9; D9; L20; F47; A65; Pts 36
Form: WLLLLL
Still to play: Ipswich (h); Burnley (a); Southampton (h); QPR (a); Plymouth (h); Derby (a); Southend (a); Sunderland (h).
They are in the worst form of any of the teams down at the bottom and their present run must be very depressing for manager Mike Newell.
Rowan Vine, Steve Howard, Carlos Edwards and Kevin Nicholls were the nucleus of the side that played well last season, but now they've all gone it highlights the dangers of letting your best players go.
Look at the goals against figure. It is joint-worst in the division with Barnsley and it is clear where their problems are, but there is no easy quick fix.
Opportunities in the loan market are not as available as before as Premiership clubs want to keep their squads together more these days so you're left with scoring more goals - which is easier said than done!
Did you know? Rowan Vine (14) and Carlos Edwards (six) are still the club's leading two scorers despite leaving Kenilworth Road more than two months ago.
QPR
Position: 22nd
Record: P37; W9; D10; L18; F42; A58; Pts 37
Form: LDDLDD
Still to play: Leicester (a); West Brom (h); Preston (h); Coventry (a); Luton (h); Sunderland (a); Cardiff (h); Wolves (a); Stoke (h).
Manager John Gregory has addressed the fact they were leaking goals and Danny Cullip and goalkeeper Lee Camp have looked good since coming in.
Conceding a late goal at Derby to draw is a blow, but they cannot afford to look at it like that.
They still got a point away to a very good side, gave a good account of themselves and they must have gone into it thinking that if they got anything they would be pleased. It could yet be a turning point.
However, on the flipside is that run-in. Just look at the clubs they've yet to play, and their game in hand is against Preston. Five matches are at home, but it is the hardest of the lot and you have to fear for them.
Did you know? QPR have lost only one of their last seven games at home.
SOUTHEND
Position: 21st
Record: P38; W9; D11; L18; F39; A58; Pts 38
Form: LLLDWW
Still to play: Leeds (h); Hull (a); Colchester (h); Preston (a); Barnsley (h); Plymouth (a); Luton (h); Southampton (a).
Beating Burnley on Tuesday was a big result for them as they climbed out of the relegation places, but it is the next game against Leeds that is the key match.
Win and they make it three victories in a row as well as opening up a six-point gap on Leeds, which can give them the confidence to go on and avoid relegation.
It is one of three games against fellow relegation candidates at home, Roots Hall is never an easy place to go and picking up wins at home is the target for Steve Tilson's squad.
I can see them pulling out of trouble and the thing I like about them is that they have got players who can turn games - Freddy Eastwood and Jamal Campbell-Ryce on the right-wing can do bits of individual magic.
Did you know? Southend were in the relegation zone from 30 September until 13 March.
BARNSLEY
Position: 20th
Record: P38; W12; D5; L21; F44; A65; Pts 41
Form: LWWLLW
Still to play: Coventry (a); Derby (h); Ipswich (a); Birmingham (h); Southend (a); Crystal Palace (h); Leicester (h); West Brom (a).
They came from behind to beat Plymouth which is a big thing as they don't draw too many - only five all season - so they either get beat or win which is strange, and can be dangerous.
When you're a team that doesn't draw the mentality can be 'we've conceded and it looks like we're going to lose another game', but if you keep going to the end you can nick points here and there that can be vital.
They have a number of games against teams in mid-table, but managers and boards will be demanding a strong finish and there are no gimmes in the Championship.
They've done well until now, those new Hungarian players look fresh and eager and they've got to believe they can stay up, but if they finish in the bottom three nobody would be surprised.
Did you know? The win at Plymouth was the first time since November they have picked up three points having conceded a goal.
HULL
Position: 19th
Record: P38; W11; D8; L19; F41; A56; Pts 41
Form: LWLLWW
Still to play: Sunderland (a); Southend (h); Norwich (h); Wolves (a), Colchester (h); Stoke (a); Cardiff (a); Plymouth (h).
Manager Phil Brown has steadied the ship after a poor start.
Back-to-back wins will have done their confidence the world of good, especially picking up three points at Luton as away form has been their Achilles heel this season.
Matches at this stage of the season are readily called 'must-win' games, but they are nothing of the sort for the likes of Ray Parlour.
For him, a European final or an FA Cup final is a 'must-win' game - he has been there, seen it and done it and his experience, along with the likes of Dean Windass and Nick Barmby, will be vital in keeping their run of form going.
Did you know? This is the highest Hull have been in the table all season. All the other six clubs in the mire have at least enjoyed a more exalted status in the division at sometime or other during the campaign.
BURNLEY
Position: 18th
Record: P36; W10; D11; L15; F36; A39; Pts 41
Form: DLLDDL
Still to play: Preston (a); Luton (h); Plymouth (h); Birmingham (a); Cardiff (h); Leeds (a); Norwich (h); West Brom (h), Sunderland (a); Coventry (h).
Steve Cotterill has obviously got a board of directors who think he's the man for the job. I went eight games without a win and got the sack this season, but he's on 17 and counting!
With the standard of players they've got it is surprising they are down there and it just goes to show that results dictate confidence, and if the confidence is not there runs like this can happen to anybody.
The one thing you can say is that they are due a win, and with Andy Gray now fit alongside Ade Akinbiyi you'd expect the goals to come to boost that goals for column.
A bit of luck somewhere could earn three points which will immediately lift the mood, and if they win their two games in hand they will be flying up the table.
Did you know? Burnley, who were top after the first day of the season, have scored just eight goals in those 17 games they have failed to win.
Kilde: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/6446811.stm
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Trur Leeds tar 11 poeng til...Og da kan det holde...Bonus og viktige poeng i helga..og vi klarer oss.
Vinner mot Burnley- Plymouth og Ipswich ..
avgjort mot Colchester og Preston...
35 + 11 = 46p.... det holder med ett nødskrik...[:(!]
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quote:
Originally posted by baste
Trur Leeds tar 11 poeng til...Og da kan det holde...Bonus og viktige poeng i helga..og vi klarer oss.
Vinner mot Burnley- Plymouth og Ipswich ..
avgjort mot Colchester og Preston...
35 + 11 = 46p.... det holder med ett nødskrik...[:(!]
But former Coventry boss Micky Adams believes the survival mark will be much nearer the division's traditional benchmark of 52 points.
Tror kanskje at fasitten ligger midt i mellom 46 <--> 52.
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Går ned med 46, tror det magiske tallet er 48. Og med 48 så blir vi i divisjonen.
De 2 siste sesongene lag nr.22 endt på 42 (crewe-05/06) og 50 (Gillingham-04/05 gikk ned på målforskjell).
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VI TAR 15 POENG INN... DET HOLDER....
VI ER PÃ… GANG.. LITT FLAKS NÃ… SÃ… ER VI DER...
VI KAN IKKE VÆRE RÆVA EN HEL SESSONG...
1 MND MED GOD FORM HAR ALLE LAG??? DEN TRENGER VI NÃ…!!!
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Well, it's all purely speculations here.
First off all I agree with most of you when it comes too Luton, I think they are gone. Their form is: WLLLLL. And with Newell out in the media making a fool out of himself, he looks worse than Wise. So, yeah, definitely, Luton will go down.
Then it's QPR, they too have a run of poor form:WLLLLL. And they have to play teams like Leicester away, Brom at home, Preston, Sunderland, Wolves. So, if they aren't putting up their form in the next couple of games. They're "toast".
Southend. Whats there to say? Form:LLLDWW. But keep in mind that they have taken on teams like Birmingham and went victorious home to Roots Hall. Still to play: Leeds (h); Hull (a); Colchester (h); Preston (a); Barnsley (h); Plymouth (a); Luton (h); Southampton (a). The game against Leeds would seal their fate. The great thing would have been that they have a form "lump" where they loose to us. But picking up their steam against Luton, Hull and Barnsley. I think that their terrific form is over, and it's back to win every second game or so.
Hull might be safe with just a couple of wins. They look strong and do not have the "worst" opponents. Form:LWLLWW
Burnely. Well, they're in a poor run. "Our" or Leeds game against them is crucial. We need to get a three pointer and close that gap. Still to play: Preston (a); Luton (h); Plymouth (h); Birmingham (a); Cardiff (h); Leeds (a); Norwich (h); West Brom (h), Sunderland (a); Coventry (h).
In the end I believe it's a fight between Luton, Leeds, Southend and Barnsley. As I believe that Hull will come out of the marsh. There is a possibility that Brunley could be a candidate for the infamous lower three teams, but they need to keep their awful form where it is.
For Leeds, we know what we have to do, Southend, Plymouth and Brunley must be defeated. Those nine points there are crucial, at the same time we need to pick points of Preston and Ipswich. My calculation is that 46 points is the absolute minimum of points we need, if we only get 46 we are in need of "assistance" form some other teams.
Mickey Adams believed that the 52 point line is the "life saver". So the conclusion is that between 46 and 52 is the points we need. I calculated that if we get 48 points we're up, unless all other results, and I mean all results go against us.
Still it's up to us. Let's win on Saturday and keep it that way, hate relying on others.
Until then " We all love Leeds,We all love Leeds,We all love Leeds,We all love Leeds"
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Leeds får støtte fra toppen! I flg. denne tråden har Tony Blair vært på besøk i Leeds hvor han utrykker ønske om at Leeds greier seg i CCC. http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,982_1985471,00.html
Beboeren av Downing St. 10 er som kjent fotballinteressert (Newcastlefan), og på et besøk i byen utrykte han beundring for klubben (bra) og Wise (???), og mente at Leeds snart var tilbake til gamle høyder. Snilt sagt Tony, men det luktet litt vel mye stemmesanking av uttalelsen?
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Originally posted by RoarG
Leeds får støtte fra toppen! I flg. denne tråden har Tony Blair vært på besøk i Leeds hvor han utrykker ønske om at Leeds greier seg i CCC. http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,982_1985471,00.html
Beboeren av Downing St. 10 er som kjent fotballinteressert (Newcastlefan), og på et besøk i byen utrykte han beundring for klubben (bra) og Wise (???), og mente at Leeds snart var tilbake til gamle høyder. Snilt sagt Tony, men det luktet litt vel mye stemmesanking av uttalelsen?
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
Smisking! Verkar jo nesten ironisk, på grensa til sarkastisk, når han seier at vi snart er tilbake til "gamle høgder". Dét, eller så har han ikkje peiling på fotball!
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Syns det er bedre at han sier det enn at han forholder seg taus. Men det lukter nok litt Torbjørn Jagland av dette.
Men han skal ha for forsøket, og hva vet jeg, det kan jo være han oppriktig mener det...
But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues
You can tell by the way she smiles
B.Dylan
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Hva skal han si ? Han var jo på besøk i leeds !! Forpliktet !
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politikk er politikk.
ikke'no å lage noe fuzz rundt.
puddelen skal gå av i vår likevel...
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/gfo/lowres/gfon17l.jpg)
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Fra SkySport: http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=454733&CPID=10&clid=37&lid=2&title=Championship+weekend+preview&channel=football_home&
Utvalgte kamper:
Southend United v Leeds United - (Home 5/4 Draw 9/4 Away 7/4)
Southend are without Alan McCormack for the next two games due to suspension as Steve Tilson looks for an important win.
Richie Foran is likely to take his place, with Adam Barrett the only injury concern as he is out for another fortnight with a groin problem.
Leeds continue to have a lengthy injury list as they look to avoid relegation, with Shaun Derry, Ian Westlake, Graham Stack and Gary Kelly out.
Jemal Johnson and Hayden Foxe are unable to play after being knocked out in the past week, but Rui Marques and Robbie Elliott are fit.
Alan Thompson, Eddie Lewis and Armando Sa are unlikely to figure, but Tore Andre Flo is close to a return.
* Skysports.com prediction: 1-0
Preston North End v Burnley - (Home 4/6 Draw 11/5 Away 4/1)
Paul Simpson is hoping his side can make it four home wins in a row, but he does have some injury concerns.
Paul McKenna is 'touch and go' with a hernia problem, while striker Michael Ricketts is nursing a calf complaint.
Pavel Pergl and Kelvin Wilson could figure in the side, but Simon Whaley and Lewis Neal are still missing.
Burnley have not won in 16 Championship matches and have been sucked into a battle to avoid relegation.
Steve Cotterill has doubts over a trio of defenders with Steve Foster (Achilles), John McGreal (groin) and Michael Duff (knee) all struggling.
Alan Mahon is also doubtful with a hamstring problem, while Wayne Thomas is at least a couple of weeks away from a return.
* Skysports.com prediction: 2-0
Coventry City v Barnsley - (Home 4/5 Draw 12/5 Away 4/1)
Iain Dowie will hope to preserve his unbeaten start as manager and has mixed news on the injury front in attack.
Leon McKenzie is hopeful of playing after a thigh injury, but Kevin Kyle is out with a hip problem.
Michael Mifsud will start for Coventry, but it is uncertain whether Khalilou Fadiga will feature after his mother died in midweek.
Barnsley could name an unchanged team from the one which recorded an impressive 4-2 win at Plymouth Argyle in midweek.
Martin Devaney plays before serving a two-match ban, but Dwayne Mattis is absent with an ankle injury.
* Skysports.com prediction: 3-1
Leicester City v Queens Park Rangers - (Home 5/6 Draw 9/4 Away 11/4)
Matty Fryatt could come under consideration for Leicester after returning to training following a foot injury.
Paddy McCarthy (shoulder) and Rab Douglas (knee) are missing from a Foxes team who have lost just once in eight matches.
In contrast, QPR have failed to win in their last six and remain without midfielder Marc Bircham due to a back injury.
Dexter Blackstock and Martin Rowlands are rated 50/50 and boss John Gregory is wary about risking the duo.
* Skysports.com prediction: 2-1
Luton Town v Ipswich Town - (Home 11/8 Draw 11/5 Away 13/8)
Brian Stein takes caretaker charge of Luton after Mike Newell was sacked on Thursday following a run of five consecutive defeats.
Bjorn Runstrom, Warren Feeney and Dean Morgan could all be recalled to the side as The Hatters desperately seek a win, while Austrian striker Besian Idrizaj could make his debut after joining on loan from Liverpool.
Goalkeeper Marlon Beresford is doubtful with a head injury, so Dean Brill stands by, while Ahmet Brkovic (ankle) and Paul Underwood (illness) are out.
Ipswich welcome Irish striker Alan Lee back into the team after suspension, although Darren Currie has been loaned out to Derby.
Gavin Williams may return, but Richard Naylor is unlikely to figure, while Matt Richards and Dan Harding will have tests on ankle injuries.
* Skysports.com prediction: 1-2
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Gregory confident of Great Escape
QPR boss John Gregory is confident his side can get themselves out of the relegation mire at the bottom of the Championship table.
Gregory's side are currently third from bottom, a point adrift of safety with nine games to play, and the ex-Aston Villa manager is expecting a tense couple of months in the run-in.
He told the club's official website: "We've relied on other teams far too often in the last few weeks.
"It's important we don't have to do so anymore by getting the job done ourselves.
"It's still nip and tuck at the bottom. I'm convinced there are still plenty of twists and turns left between now and the end of the season."
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Hull bring in Liverpool youngster
Hull City have swooped to sign Liverpool youngster Lee Peltier on loan until the end of the season.
Storyen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hull_city/6458181.stm
Luton sign Liverpool teen Idrizaj
Managerless Luton have signed Liverpool reserve striker Besian Idrizaj on loan until the end of the season.
Storyen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6460137.stm
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The Times' analyse for kick off
(utvalgte kamper)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/championship/article1528058.ece
Coventry City v Barnsley 3pm
Leon McKenzie should return from a thigh injury for Coventry, but Kevin Kyle (hip), Khalilou Fadiga (family bereavement) and Don Hutchison (ankle) are out. Barnsley are expected to name an unchanged team for the third successive match.
* Fink Tank Home win 52% Away win 23% Draw 25%
Leicester City v Queens Park Rangers 3pm
Matt Fryatt could return for Leicester after an ankle problem, but Patrick McCarthy (shoulder) and Robert Douglas (knee) are sidelined. Dexter Blackstock (hamstring) and Martin Rowlands (hamstring) will face late fitness tests for QPR.
* Fink Tank Home win 54% Away win 22% Draw 24%
Luton Town v Ipswich Town 3pm
Brian Stein, the Luton caretaker-manager, is expected to ring the changes but will wait to see if Marlon Beresford, the goalkeeper, recovers from a head injury. For Ipswich, Matt Richards and Dan Harding have ankle injuries and may not be fit to start.
* Fink Tank Home win 32% Away win 43% Draw 24%
Preston North End v Burnley 1pm
Paul McKenna is in contention for a first-team return for Preston after groin surgery. Michael Ricketts is doubtful with a calf problem. Andy Gray will play for Burnley despite a foot problem, but Stephen Foster, John McGreal and Michael Duff are doubts.
* Fink Tank Home win 46% Away win 27% Draw 27%
Southend United v Leeds United 3pm
Alan McCormack is suspended for Southend and Adam Barrett is absent because of a hernia. Leeds will give late fitness tests to Alan Thompson, Eddie Lewis and Armando Sa, but Jemal Johnson (head) is ruled out.
* Fink Tank Home win 48% Away win 27% Draw 25%
Sunderland v Hull City 3pm
Jonny Evans, the Sunderland defender, is a doubt because of concussion while Tobias Hysen has an ankle injury. Marton Fulop is ruled out because of a groin strain. For Hull, Michael Bridges is suspended, but Lee Peltier has joined on loan from Liverpool.
* Fink Tank Home win 66% Away win 14% Draw 21%
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Leeds United star: relegation scrap has long way to
ichard Cresswell believes the battle to stay up will go down to the final game of the season
"We have to push on," said the striker in the wake of Saturday's draw at Southend United.
"We've gone three games unbeaten and we can take confidence from that.
"We've got a massive game against my old team Preston in a couple of weeks but I'm sure it will all go down to the last day of the season."
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Creswell og Healy scorer mål..men er det for seint? Trur ennå vi kan klare oss. Er jo mye bedre defansivt nå enn hva vi har vært...
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Ser at denne tråden har vært død i to dager nå. Er redd for at det betyr: ALT HÃ…P ER
IKKE UTE![}:)]
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Thai Boxing legend Mr Yut is hoping to become a lucky charm for Leeds United.
Alt håp er visst ikkje ute. No har klubben snudd alle steinar og forsøkt seg på ein ny vri, nemleg thaiboksing[:D]
Mr Yut was a guest at Thorp Arch two weeks ago and, since his visit, the team have embarked on a season's best three-game unbeaten run.
Mr Yut, who was accompanied by lifelong United fan Mick Tobin, met some of the players and was given a tour of the facilities on offer.
One of the first people Mr Yut bumped into was Dennis Wise and he was quick to offer the boss "Chok Dee", which is Thai for good luck. He also met Armando Sa and Tore Andre Flo.
Mr Yut, who coaches the Thai World Champion in his homeland, is staying in Leeds for an extended spell and will be passing on his knowledge and wisdom at Mick's gym in Armley. The gym was opened last August by our former skipper Paul Butler, David Healy, and Ian Moore, and is a popular haunt among United fans.
Of the visit, Mick said: "Both Mr Yut and I enjoyed visiting Thorp Arch. The atmosphere up there was terrific - there's a really good spirit - and hopefully everyone will get behind Dennis and the lads over the next few weeks and we'll get out of this! Mr Yut certainly hopes he has brought has luck to the club."
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Supert!
Thomas
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Mye tyder på at Crainey's dager på Elland Road er over.
Tror ikke mange gråter noen tårer for det!
"I talked to Crainey at a reserves game about a month ago now - he was just about fit then. Shrugged his shoulders when asked if he'd be back in the first team and gave me a resigned look. I think the simple answer is that D&G regard him as 3rd choice at least as LB - now 4th? There was a rumour the other day of him going to Forest on loan.
Andy C"
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Leeds Utd Mad er et nettsted som mange kjenner til, som er relativt tregt. Men det har en relativt frittalende redaktør, Kevin Markey, som iblant skriver kritsike små innlegg ( med velkjent britisk ironi/sarkasme ).
Nedenforstående link er til Hull City Mad, hvor de har intervjua Kevin Markey vedrørende nedrykk eller ikke. Han tipper at Barnsley, Burnley og Luton rykker ned. Litt overraskende fratar han nærmest Wise skyld for dagens situasjon, det er det ikke mange hverken på luscos.com eller engelske nettsteder som gjør.
http://www.hullcity-mad.co.uk/news/loadfeat.asp?cid=EDZ6&id=330680
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Chris Kamara, Sky Sports: Stein can save Hatters
http://home.skysports.com/column.aspx?lid=Sky_Sports_Columnist_CHRIS_KAMARA&hlid=456003&cpid=10&channel=Football+Home
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Bråk i Barnsley!
Ikke all verden til oppladning til innspurten.
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BARNSLEY LAUNCH PROBE
Barnsley have launched an investigation after the arrest of three players in connection with a racist attack on a taxi driver.
A Sheffield-based taxi driver has claimed he was the victim of a racially-motivated assault by two players, while a third player racially abused him at the end of a night out earlier this month.
All three unnamed players allegedly fled the taxi without paying.
Barnsley chairman Gordon Shepherd said: "We are making no comment, but will conduct an internal investigation."
Shepherd confirmed the club had not yet taken any disciplinary action against any of the players.
A South Yorkshire Police spokesman said: "Police have arrested a 25-year-old man and two 24-year-old men in connection with an incident in a taxi travelling along Penistone Road in Sheffield on Wednesday March 7.
"The 25-year-old man and one of the 24-year-old men were arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated assault and making off without payment.
"The remaining 24-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated public order and making off without payment."
Police confirmed all three players had been released on bail pending further inquiries.
A Barnsley FC spokesman added: "No players have been charged, no players have been disciplined and the club is not commenting further on this matter."
Kilde: http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8669_2012333,00.html
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Håpa Barnsley går helt opp i liminga...og Qpr, m.fl..Og at Leeds fortsetter den gode trenden, dog med seier og ikke U hjemme...
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Originally posted by kjelvi
Bråk i Barnsley!
Ikke all verden til oppladning til innspurten.
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BARNSLEY LAUNCH PROBE
Barnsley have launched an investigation after the arrest of three players in connection with a racist attack on a taxi driver.
The Barnsley 3:
Brian Howard
(http://www.barnsleyfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/ProfilesDetail/0,,10309~24265,00.html)
Marc Richards
(http://www.barnsleyfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/ProfilesDetail/0,,10309~11180,00.html)
Paul Reid
(http://www.barnsleyfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/ProfilesDetail/0,,10309~18670,00.html)
Alle tre spiller fast!
Saken diskuteres selvsagt heftig på Barnsley-fansens uoff. forum: http://www.barnsleyfc.org.uk/bbs/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=1
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Jo, jo, men det er tross alt småtterier ift bowyer/woodgate-saken.
Tror ikke de påvirkes av det, men barnsley blir man ikke klok på, det taper ofte stort når de taper , emn slår plutselig til og vinner en kamp nå og da.
De har jo et forsprang på oss pr. idag, men jeg kan ikke se at de kommer til å vinne 4-5 kamper med det programmet de har igjen. Men de er jo på 50 poeng med 3 seire, så...... Deres neste hjemmekamper er mot Derby og Birmingham + borte mot Ipswich i mellom, tap eller uavgjort i disse, og vi kan fort være veldig nærme de. Det må da bli minst 4-5 poeng mot Preston, Plymouth og Colcehster, mens med 6-7 poeng hadde vi vært godt i rute mot 50p ( hvis det holder da )
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Eg har tippa det lenge, Luton, Barnsley og Burnley rykker ned. Me klarer oss garantert og med det laget me nå kan stilla på banen er ikkje trua blitt mindre[;)] Neste år blir det ikkje play off, men direkte opprykk til PL[8D]
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Originally posted by venadis
Eg har tippa det lenge, Luton, Barnsley og Burnley rykker ned. Me klarer oss garantert og med det laget me nå kan stilla på banen er ikkje trua blitt mindre[;)] Neste år blir det ikkje play off, men direkte opprykk til PL[8D]
Det var da svært til optimisme da. [:)]
Da er du enig med Leeds utd Mad redaktøren mhp hvem som rykker ned.
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Ja optimismen har eg aldri mista og må faktisk innrømma at den er voksende etter tre kamper uten tap og skaderammede spillere på veg tilbake. Må allikavel innrømma at det er de tre nevnte nedrykkslagås form så inspirere meg for tiå
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Originally posted by berlin
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Originally posted by venadis
Eg har tippa det lenge, Luton, Barnsley og Burnley rykker ned. Me klarer oss garantert og med det laget me nå kan stilla på banen er ikkje trua blitt mindre[;)] Neste år blir det ikkje play off, men direkte opprykk til PL[8D]
Det var da svært til optimisme da. [:)]
Da er du enig med Leeds utd Mad redaktøren mhp hvem som rykker ned.
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Håper dere har rett
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Originally posted by venadis
Eg har tippa det lenge, Luton, Barnsley og Burnley rykker ned. Me klarer oss garantert og med det laget me nå kan stilla på banen er ikkje trua blitt mindre[;)] Neste år blir det ikkje play off, men direkte opprykk til PL[8D]
Rett og slett imponerende optimisme kaller jeg dette...skulle ønske det også kunne kalles realisme, men hvem vet, time will shåvv!
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We are still in the race - Poyet
(http://images.teamtalk.com/07/03/190/DennisWiseandGusPoyet_203770.jpg)
Leeds assistant boss Gus Poyet admits the Whites will have only themselves to blame if they are relegated this season.
Rock-bottom Leeds have seven games to make up a four-point gap and climb out of the drop zone and assistant manager Poyet stresses survival is still in their hands.
"We are still in the race and we have to win our home games," Poyet told the club's official website.
"It's in our hands and we cannot blame anyone.
"We can't wait for the (Preston) game. We've gone three unbeaten now and this has given the players the confidence for the last seven games. Preston is at home and we have to win the points."
Kilde: http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1786_2015703,00.html
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Vel, jeg opprettholder tipsene mine:
22: Burnley
23: Leeds
24: Luton
Ser at en del håper at Barnsley sprekker p.g.a. noe tull i sesonginnspurten. Grunnen til at jeg tror at Leeds ikke holder seg er at jeg ikke tror at Leeds får 15 pts.,men 5! Skal Leeds berge plassen nå må minst 3 lag ha kollaps, for det er vi nemlig avhengige av ettersom vi ikke greier å skaffe mange poeng selv.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Originally posted by RoarG
Vel, jeg opprettholder tipsene mine:
22: Burnley
23: Leeds
24: Luton
Ser at en del håper at Barnsley sprekker p.g.a. noe tull i sesonginnspurten. Grunnen til at jeg tror at Leeds ikke holder seg er at jeg ikke tror at Leeds får 15 pts.,men 5! Skal Leeds berge plassen nå må minst 3 lag ha kollaps, for det er vi nemlig avhengige av ettersom vi ikke greier å skaffe mange poeng selv.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
Nå ja, tonen kan igjen bli annerledes (optismistisk) hos deg Roar. Ikke mange som tror på det, men blir det seier mot Preston, ser alt plutslieg lysere ut. Jeg er rimelig sikker på Leeds tar mer enn 5 poeng på de siste kampene, men det er ikke sikkert det holder for det.
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No har Lewis gjort ein meget bra jobb som venstreback, men eg ser på signeringa av Micky Gray som eit positivt signal. Han var kjempegod for oss ifjor, og håpar han kan gjenta prestasjonane i den uhyre spennande innspurten.
Rart kor mykje èin ny spelar kan bety for optimismen, men eg vart iallfall ikkje meir pessimistisk. Og så skal ryktene ha det til at Kelly kan gjere eit raskt comeback, han som eg hadde avskrive for lenge sidan. Ein backfirar med Kelly-Marques-Heath/Michalik-Gray ser mange hakk betre ut enn det vi har stilt opp med den siste tida. Tru og håp kan flytte fjell...
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5 poeng ??????????? Tror ikke de andre blir stående på den poengsummen de har i dag, de har også noen kamper igjen.
Vi må nok ha rundt 10 poeng til gor og holde oss,klarer vi bare 5 ewr det nok rett ned
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5 pts. høres kanskje litt vel lite ut, men så mange flere enn det er jeg redd for at det ikke blir (5-8). Spørs om det blir tilstrekkelig når man tenker på de få kampene som gjenstår. Husk at Leeds ligger SIST, og er avhengig av "hjelp" fra andre lag. Dvs.:TRE LAG MÃ… TRYNE. Det er ikke tilstrekkelig å passere et (helt sikker på at vi gjør) eller to lag (litt mer usikker på at vi gjør). Derfor er jeg ganske sikker på at Leeds rykker ned. Er det noe jeg virkelig frykter er det at Leeds blir nr. 22, og går ned med margin på ett poeng, eller enda verre, på målforskjell/antall scorete mål. Så jeg beklager overfor alle de "troende" her på forumet: det er altfor mange faktorer som peker i Leeds' disfavør. Møkkaresultatet i Southend ødela alt. Så får heller spillere, trenere og andre ønsketenkere mene noe annet. Leeds er ikke kong Theoden. Mektige venner kommer ikke til unnsetning i farens stund.[B)]
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Originally posted by berlin
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Originally posted by RoarG
Vel, jeg opprettholder tipsene mine:
22: Burnley
23: Leeds
24: Luton
Ser at en del håper at Barnsley sprekker p.g.a. noe tull i sesonginnspurten. Grunnen til at jeg tror at Leeds ikke holder seg er at jeg ikke tror at Leeds får 15 pts.,men 5! Skal Leeds berge plassen nå må minst 3 lag ha kollaps, for det er vi nemlig avhengige av ettersom vi ikke greier å skaffe mange poeng selv.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
Nå ja, tonen kan igjen bli annerledes hos deg Roar. Ikke mange som tror på det, men blir det seier mot Preston, ser alt plutslieg lysere ut. Jeg er rimelig sikker på Leeds ta mer enn 5 poeng på de siste kampene, men det er sikkert det holder for det.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Personlig tror jeg at vi får minst dobbelt så mange poeng ( 10 poeng ) på de siste 7 kampene, men det gir i såfall bare 46 poeng totalt, og det blir nok høyst sannsynlig for lite. Det er hva jeg tror, men jeg håper selvfølgelig på enda 3-4 poeng.
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Det ser veldig mørkt ut, men får vi seier mot Preston(Fredag)kan det gå! Alt Leeds trenger er at moralen i laget stiger. Sånn sett har vi et meget godt lag nå som de fleste spillerene er klar til fredag. Healy scoret 3 mål i helgå også, helsikken at han ikke kan score for klubben sin!!
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Fra minneboka....
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Caught in time
Leeds win the Second Division, 1964
So how can the current Leeds United side avoid relegation to League One? One way would be to find a Bobby Collins. Don Revie, the manager in 1962, pulled off the coup and never looked back.
Collins was 5ft 3in tall, weighed 10 stone and wore size four boots, but the diminutive Scotland midfielder saved his club in crisis. He was 31 years old and believed to be past his sell-by-date at Everton when a desperate Revie got word that he might be available. After initial talks, the manager waited five hours in his car for Collins and then chatted to him until 2.30am, persuading him to join the struggling Second Division side. The £24,000 deal was sealed and, on March 3, 1962, Collins moved across the Pennines.
His first task was to stop Leeds from sinking into the Third Division. They went nine games unbeaten and secured their safety. Then followed a season of rebuilding and by late 1963 they were ready to launch a title challenge. The combative Collins, with a new lease of life, was their fulcrum, cajoling and inspiring the young players around him.
Norman Hunter, a tough-tackling defender, recalls the period with fondness. “It was my second season. I was 19 at the time and we had a very young side. What started it all rolling was the signing of Bobby Collins. He was a huge influence. He was our captain and set our mentality with his determination.â€
With the acquisition of Johnny Giles for £33,000 from Manchester United, Revie bolstered his midfield for a promotion tussle with Sunderland. Leeds had a strong finish to the season, winning eight of their last 10 games and drawing the other two. They clinched the title with a 2-0 win at Charlton on the final day. Sunderland finished second, two points adrift.
“When we got promoted,†says Jim Storrie, a Scottish striker, “nobody was talking about relegation the next season. The targets were set much higher. Revie sat us down and said he would give us incentive bonuses. Every week we were in the top four, we would be paid extra. If we dropped out of the top four, we would get nothing. He also gave us a crowd bonus. If gates were between 15,000 and 20,000, we would get something and more for 20,000 to 25,000. There was extra for anything over 25,000. He dangled these carrots for us and we spent most of the season in the top four and had full houses for our games.â€
Leeds had a superb season, finishing run-ners-up to Manchester United in the First Division and losing 2-1 to Liverpool in the FA Cup final. It was the start of the finest era in the club’s history.
However, their robust style and win-at-all-costs attitude had its detractors, even among their own. “We played high-pressure football which didn’t suit my style,†says Storrie. “I spent the afternoon chasing fullbacks and it was soul destroying when you came off the field after the team had scored a late goal to win a game. The end justified the means. Leeds played it hard and people didn’t like playing against us. One of the things that Revie got out of the players was that everybody played for each other.â€
Hunter agrees. “He created a them-and-us mentality which we quite enjoyed. He used to show us what people had been writing about us. Other footballers appreciated what we achieved. They used to say: ‘We hated you, but what a good side you were’. Teams were intimidated. I saw sides that were beaten before they even stepped on to Elland Road.â€
1 Willie Bell The Scotland fullback managed Birmingham and Lincoln and then moved to the United States where he was a coach in Virginia. He and his wife run a Christian ministry which visits prisons around Britain
2 Paul Reaney A motor mechanic before his football career took off, the England fullback runs coaching courses and works for charity
3 Freddie Goodwin A Lancashire county cricketer in his playing days, the wing-half managed Brighton, Birmingham and Scunthorpe before moving to the United States where he coaches
4 Gary Sprake A Wales goalkeeper who once threw the ball into his own net in front of Liverpool’s Kop, he is a business training officer in Birmingham. His autobiography is called Careless Hands
5 Brian Williamson The reserve team goalkeeper played five league games for Leeds and moved to Aus-tralia to settle in Erina, New South Wales
6 Norman Hunter An England central defender, he managed Barnsley and now works for Radio Yorkshire
7 Ian Lawson An England youth inside forward, he spent three years at Leeds and finished his career at Port Vale. Has dropped out of football circles
8 Johnny Giles A Republic of Ireland midfielder, he managed West Brom and the Republic and is a panellist on Irish television’s Match of the Day
9 Billy Bremner Dynamic Scotland midfielder who won 54 caps and managed Leeds to the 1987 FA Cup semi-finals. He died at the age of 54 in December 1997
10 Jim Storrie A forward who managed St Johnstone and then worked at a sports centre in Cumernauld for 14 years. Also worked at Stirling University and now retired
11 Bobby Collins The Scotland midfielder coached, managed and then worked in the wholesale fashion business. He was a driver at Leeds University. Now retired
12 Don Weston A much-travelled goalscorer, he was a senior salesman for a Ford dealership in Wrexham
13 Jimmy Greenhoff A Leeds apprentice who had spells with Stoke City and Manchester United, he works in insurance in Audley, Stoke
14 Jack Charlton A lanky World Cup-winning England defender, he managed Middlesbrough and the Republic of Ireland and is a football analyst, after-dinner speaker and fisherman
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article1563663.ece
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Originally posted by kjelvi
Bråk i Barnsley!
Ikke all verden til oppladning til innspurten.
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BARNSLEY LAUNCH PROBE
Barnsley have launched an investigation after the arrest of three players in connection with a racist attack on a taxi driver.
Kilde: http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8669_2012333,00.html
No 'race' charge for Tykes trio
South Yorkshire Police have released Barnsley trio Paul Reid, Brian Howard and Marc Richards from police bail without charge.
Barnsley launched an internal investigation after the players' arrest for an alleged racist attack on a taxi driver, who claimed he was assaulted by two players while a third verbally abused him at the end of a night out in Sheffield on March 7.
A police statement read: "Three men aged in their mid-20s - two from the Barnsley area and one from the Wakefield area - who were arrested in connection with an alleged racial incident which apparently occurred on March 7 have been released from police bail without charge."
A Barnsley club statement read: "After an internal investigation the club found all three players had done no wrong and this was confirmed when the police formally dropped the matter without action.
"South Yorkshire Police have confirmed that, following their enquiries, no charges will be brought against any player. All three have been released from police bail without any further action.
"The players have had the complete backing of Barnsley Football Club throughout and remain focused on getting the points needed to keep the team in the Championship this season, starting with Saturday's game against Derby County at Oakwell."
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_2019935,00.html
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Etter å ha lagt inn tenkte resultat i predictoren (endå ein gang) ser det ut som vi klarer oss med eit nødskrik.
Luton, QPR og Barnsley rykker ned...
Eg la inn 4 heimesigrar og null poeng borte; 48p.
WE'RE LEEDS AND PROUD!!!
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Beklager. Jeg deler ikke din optimisme. Leeds tar ikke 4 hjemmeseire. Preston knuser det vesle som er igjen av håp på fredag kveld, eller vi klarer som best enda et meningsløst uavgjort resultat som vi skryter inn i rekken av ubeiseirete kamper, og dermed blir evaluert til å være "en god prestasjon". Gode prestasjoner er ikke tilstrekkelige - bare overmenneskelige, samt kollaps fra minst tre lag foran oss. Det er over.[xx(]
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Originally posted by Tom S
Etter å ha lagt inn tenkte resultat i predictoren (endå ein gang) ser det ut som vi klarer oss med eit nødskrik.
Luton, QPR og Barnsley rykker ned...
Eg la inn 4 heimesigrar og null poeng borte; 48p.
WE'RE LEEDS AND PROUD!!!
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Når du legger inn resultatene vil de nok helle din vei, bevist eller ubevist.
At Luton rykker ned skal jeg være enig i,og det er veldig sansynlig at Barnsley følger med ned.
Fra helgen og de neste 10 dagene så blir det avgjort. Nå har de hatt 14 dager pause,så får vi se hvem som har fått mest ut av den. Men har fått med meg at qpr har noen sterke resultater i de siste kampene, og at de var uheldig mot Derby som ikke tok alle 3.
Tror de klarer seg med den stigende formen.
Leeds har desverre det dårligste utgangspunktet,vi må plukke mer poeng en de andre lagene.
Og det betyr at vi er avhengig av at det går vår vei, både egne og andres resultater.
Sorry ,har ikke troen på at dette skal gå.
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pr. 27.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 30.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt hpå er ikke ute )
pr. 31.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 3.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 6.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 7.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 9.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 14.april:?
pr. 17.april:?
pr. 20.april:?
pr. 21.april:?
pr. 23.april:?
pr. 28.april:?
pr. 6.mai:?
Merkelig liste, hva?
Datoene representerer når Leeds spiller eller et av de vi kjemper mot spiller. Med 3 fortløpende tap mot PNE,
Plymouth og Colchester, så er det ikke sikkert det er en teoretisk sjanse for overlevelse en gang ( hvis minst 4 av de andre laga samler veldig mye poeng samtidig )
Pessimister, realister eller optimister, jeg tror alle innerst inne håper på seier mot PNE. Det kan skje.
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Dersom vi legger tilsvarende resultater fra fjorårs-sesongen til grunn, og antyder at vi klarer oss som i fjor, får Leeds 9 pts., som er fire pts. mer enn mitt pessimistiske 5 pts.-estimat. Det blir 36+9=45 pts. Laget på 21. plass har pt. 41 poeng. Colchester møtte vi ikke i fjor. Et tips som hverken er optimistisk (3 pts.) eller pessimistisk (0 pts.), vil være uavgjort(1 pts.). I så fall får Leeds 10 pts. på de 7 gjenstående kampene (isolert sett "bra"), og totalt 46 poeng. Så kan man spørre seg om lag nr. 21 ikke tar mer enn 4(5) poeng på 7 kamper. En betraktning som melder seg da er: hvorfor i all verden skal lag nr. 24 ta flere poeng enn lag 21, 22 og 23 når man ikke har klart dette før? Har disse lagene noen mindre grunn til å kjempe for livet enn oss? Så derfor: de 4-5 nederste lagene vil røft regnet få det samme antall poeng - altså mer eller mindre status quo plasseringsmessig. Om Leeds blir nr. 22, 23 eller 24 spiller ingen rolle for utfallet: nedrykk.
PS! Skal se vi spiller alle kampene U (7 pts). Da vil vil avslutte sesongen med 10 kamper ubeseiret! En del naive fans, samt spillere og trenere vil nok greie å lese noe positivt inn i dette, men med 43 pts. er vi i alle fall nede.
Nei, kjære Leedsfans: vi får stålsette oss for (minst) en sesong i 3.divisjon.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Originally posted by RoarG
Dersom vi legger tilsvarende resultater fra fjorårs-sesongen til grunn, og antyder at vi klarer oss som i fjor, får Leeds 9 pts., som er fire pts. mer enn mitt pessimistiske 5 pts.-estimat. Det blir 36+9=45 pts. Laget på 21. plass har pt. 41 poeng. Colchester møtte vi ikke i fjor. Et tips som hverken er optimistisk (3 pts.) eller pessimistisk (0 pts.), vil være uavgjort(1 pts.). I så fall får Leeds 10 pts. på de 7 gjenstående kampene (isolert sett "bra"), og totalt 46 poeng. Så kan man spørre seg om lag nr. 21 ikke tar mer enn 4(5) poeng på 7 kamper. En betraktning som melder seg da er: hvorfor i all verden skal lag nr. 24 ta flere poeng enn lag 21, 22 og 23 når man ikke har klart dette før? Har disse lagene noen mindre grunn til å kjempe for livet enn oss? Så derfor: de 4-5 nederste lagene vil røft regnet få det samme antall poeng - altså mer eller mindre status quo plasseringsmessig. Om Leeds blir nr. 22, 23 eller 24 spiller ingen rolle for utfallet: nedrykk.
PS! Skal se vi spiller alle kampene U (7 pts). Da vil vil avslutte sesongen med 10 kamper ubeseiret! En del naive fans, samt spillere og trenere vil nok greie å lese noe positivt inn i dette, men med 43 pts. er vi i alle fall nede.
Nei, kjære Leedsfans: vi får stålsette oss for (minst) en sesong i 3.divisjon.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
det er analyse basert på statistikk. Det slår sjelden til.
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Leeds ligger sist i CCC. Det skyldes selvsagt at laget har spilt divisjonens dårligste fotball denne sesongen. Vi trenger et tosifret antall poeng (12-15) for å være helt sikre. Det skjer ikke. Hvorfor skal Leeds begynne å vinne nå når de har vist seg udugelige i snart 8 måneder. Vi kommer til å bli satt grundig på plass av Preston fredag kveld.[xx(]
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Originally posted by berlin
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Originally posted by RoarG
Dersom vi legger tilsvarende resultater fra fjorårs-sesongen til grunn, og antyder at vi klarer oss som i fjor, får Leeds 9 pts., som er fire pts. mer enn mitt pessimistiske 5 pts.-estimat. Det blir 36+9=45 pts. Laget på 21. plass har pt. 41 poeng. Colchester møtte vi ikke i fjor. Et tips som hverken er optimistisk (3 pts.) eller pessimistisk (0 pts.), vil være uavgjort(1 pts.). I så fall får Leeds 10 pts. på de 7 gjenstående kampene (isolert sett "bra"), og totalt 46 poeng. Så kan man spørre seg om lag nr. 21 ikke tar mer enn 4(5) poeng på 7 kamper. En betraktning som melder seg da er: hvorfor i all verden skal lag nr. 24 ta flere poeng enn lag 21, 22 og 23 når man ikke har klart dette før? Har disse lagene noen mindre grunn til å kjempe for livet enn oss? Så derfor: de 4-5 nederste lagene vil røft regnet få det samme antall poeng - altså mer eller mindre status quo plasseringsmessig. Om Leeds blir nr. 22, 23 eller 24 spiller ingen rolle for utfallet: nedrykk.
PS! Skal se vi spiller alle kampene U (7 pts). Da vil vil avslutte sesongen med 10 kamper ubeseiret! En del naive fans, samt spillere og trenere vil nok greie å lese noe positivt inn i dette, men med 43 pts. er vi i alle fall nede.
Nei, kjære Leedsfans: vi får stålsette oss for (minst) en sesong i 3.divisjon.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
det er analyse basert på statistikk. Det slår sjelden til.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Originally posted by RoarG
Leeds ligger sist i CCC. Det skyldes selvsagt at laget har spilt divisjonens dårligste fotball denne sesongen. Vi trenger et tosifret antall poeng (12-15) for å være helt sikre. Det skjer ikke. Hvorfor skal Leeds begynne å vinne nå når de har vist seg udugelige i snart 8 måneder. Vi kommer til å bli satt grundig på plass av Preston fredag kveld.[xx(]quote:
Originally posted by berlin
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Originally posted by RoarG
Dersom vi legger tilsvarende resultater fra fjorårs-sesongen til grunn, og antyder at vi klarer oss som i fjor, får Leeds 9 pts., som er fire pts. mer enn mitt pessimistiske 5 pts.-estimat. Det blir 36+9=45 pts. Laget på 21. plass har pt. 41 poeng. Colchester møtte vi ikke i fjor. Et tips som hverken er optimistisk (3 pts.) eller pessimistisk (0 pts.), vil være uavgjort(1 pts.). I så fall får Leeds 10 pts. på de 7 gjenstående kampene (isolert sett "bra"), og totalt 46 poeng. Så kan man spørre seg om lag nr. 21 ikke tar mer enn 4(5) poeng på 7 kamper. En betraktning som melder seg da er: hvorfor i all verden skal lag nr. 24 ta flere poeng enn lag 21, 22 og 23 når man ikke har klart dette før? Har disse lagene noen mindre grunn til å kjempe for livet enn oss? Så derfor: de 4-5 nederste lagene vil røft regnet få det samme antall poeng - altså mer eller mindre status quo plasseringsmessig. Om Leeds blir nr. 22, 23 eller 24 spiller ingen rolle for utfallet: nedrykk.
PS! Skal se vi spiller alle kampene U (7 pts). Da vil vil avslutte sesongen med 10 kamper ubeseiret! En del naive fans, samt spillere og trenere vil nok greie å lese noe positivt inn i dette, men med 43 pts. er vi i alle fall nede.
Nei, kjære Leedsfans: vi får stålsette oss for (minst) en sesong i 3.divisjon.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
det er analyse basert på statistikk. Det slår sjelden til.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
pkt 1: Snittet gjør at "nedrykkslagene" ligger der de gjør nå. Men hva med Burnley og Luton, du kan da ikke si at deres innsats avspeiler hele sesongen? Her er det en meget fallende trend.
pkt 2: Hvorfor skulle alle de andre 5laga få en rimelig god run?
pkt 3: Hvorfor skule ikke Leeds få en god run-in. Det kan faktsikt skje.
Tipping hadde vært lett, om det hadde dreid seg om statistikk.
Det vil forundre meg om de 6 lagene generer poeng basert på snittet så langt.
Usikkert: Hvor mange og hvilke lag får en dårlig run-in?
Det kan være Leeds, men det kan også skje med andre lag.
Jeg tror at det er umulig å tippe, og slik sett har Leeds fortsatt en sjanse, selv om de må ta 4 poeng mer enn 4 andre lag.
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Håpet vårt = HEALY
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Healy mener tydigvis at han er Leeds' Messias....
HEALY EAGER TO SAVE LEEDS
David Healy is determined to replicate his remarkable form at international level and spare Leeds the ignominy of dropping into the third tier of English football for the first time.
The 27-year-old striker scores goals for fun for a Northern Ireland side, who have suddenly become a force in the Euro 2008 qualifiers.
He took his tally to nine in six games in the stunning 2-1 victory against Sweden that propelled the province to top spot in Group F.
Yet his record at domestic level pales in comparison to what he achieves on the international stage.
Healy has managed just eight goals in 25 games and Leeds find themselves rooted to the foot of the table.
Looking on at Windsor Park was his club boss Dennis Wise, who had to endure the mischievous taunts of the home supporters.
Healy, however, defended his boss.
He said: "It was a bit embarrassing hearing the chants.
"To be fair to Dennis he has given me my chance and I have not scored enough goals.
"But I am in good form with five goals in two games and that has given me confidence.
"Now I am looking forward to getting back to Leeds and getting the goals that will keep us in the Championship."
Healy has become a big player in a remarkable campaign by Northern Ireland. He scored hat-tricks against Spain and Liechtenstein as well as the winner against Latvia.
The bigger the opposition, the better he seems to perform and his goal against England in a World Cup qualifier sealed a famous victory.
Manager Lawrie Sanchez said: "I have run out of words to describe David as his record for Northern Ireland is self-evident.
"But the great thing about him is he is so unassuming."
Kilde: http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2025404,00.html
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Synes det er flott at han uttaler seg slik jeg, og ikke strør salt i sårene ved å si at han ikke gis tillit, ikke får spille ren spiss, ikke får den samme støtten av medspillerne på klubblaget osv. Mye av dette er nok tanker han har selv, men det er sympatisk å ikke trekke fram dett nå, og heller innrømme at hans egne prestasjoner i Leeds ikke har vært av samme standard som det han gjør for landslaget.
Regner det som sikkert at han får sjansen til å vise hvor god klubbspiller han kan være i de neste kampene, og som jeg har sagt mange ganger før, Healy er selve nøkkelen til overlevelse!
flynn
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Gode venner, denne posten ble postet første gang 27.mars 2007:
pr. 27.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 30.mars: Leeds-Preston 2-1 ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 31.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 3.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 6.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 7.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 9.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 14.april:? Revidert 30.3: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 17.april:?
pr. 20.april:?
pr. 21.april:?
pr. 23.april:?
pr. 28.april:?
pr. 6.mai:?
Merkelig liste, hva?
Datoene representerer når Leeds spiller eller et av de vi kjemper mot spiller. Med 3 fortløpende tap mot Plymoth, Colchester og Burnley, så er det ikke sikkert det er en teoretisk sjanse for overlevelse en gang ( hvis minst 4 av de andre laga samler veldig mye poeng samtidig )
Pessimister, realister eller optimister, jeg tror alle innerst inne håper på seier mot PNE Plymouth. Det kan skje.
Sorry, men jeg kommer til å repetere dennne posten fremover.
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Vel, det er 6 kamper til og vi må fortsatt ha minst 10 poeng tror jeg, så venter i spenning på morgendagsens resultater.
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Alt håp er nå ikke ute..det e sikkert..Opp til Leeds nu..vi e i klart bedre form..har faktisk ett lag på gang..spørs bare om det er for seint...skal sette 100 ,- på at LEEDS berger plassen..trur vi gjør det....og da er målet direkte opprykk..til PL igjen..Come on
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6 kamper igjen, 18 poeng å sloss om. Vi har ikke tapt på fire kamper, dette går veien - såvidt.
Thomas
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ALT HÃ…P ER IKKE UTE ELLER !?
Nei, nå går dette veien. Vi er for første gang også heldige med resultatene i de andre kampene.
"Why settle for more, when you can settle for less"
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Six more 'cup finals' for United
ONE down, six more "cup finals" to go for Leeds United, writes Tony Harber.
The great escape rolls on to Elland Road again this Saturday with the Whites up against Plymouth hoping to recreate the atmosphere and excitement of a special night last Friday.
OK, it was only three points gained in a relegation battle that still sees Leeds up against it, but the victory against Preston signalled so much more.
First of all it was against a side who came to Elland Road in fourth place in the Championship, showing that the Whites need fear no side in the run-in. For the first time this season they came from behind to win a game and importantly for morale it lifted the team off the bottom of the table, taking them to within two points of fifth from bottom Barnsley.
And United now go into the Plymouth game on a four-match unbeaten run. Confidence is edging back into the side and Dennis Wise's bunch of loan players, short term contracted players and leftovers from the Kevin Blackwell era is finally blending into a team.
Supporters have got the message too and although there were only 18,433 diehards in the ground for the Sky televised Preston game the fans' backing played a big part in keeping the players going right to the end.
That end was a thrilling one with David Healy completing his amazing week by following up five international goals with a priceless 90th minute winner for the team that pays his wages.
Robbie Blake had earlier equalised with another classic striker's finish after Preston had led from the sixth minute when one-time Leeds striker Brett Ormerod was allowed the freedom of Elland Road to latch on to a through ball from another ex-Leeds player, Danny Pugh.
It looked to be another of those nights as efforts from Richard Cresswell, Healy and Matt Heath all went inches wide and one goalbound shot from Jonathan Douglas was kept out by one of his own teammates. But the luck finally turned with the second half goals and a hint that it just might be all right after all came when another ex-Leeds striker, Michael Ricketts, incredibly blazed over from no more than five yards out with the goal gaping at the Kop end.
United earned their victory with a committed display that showed the players are working hard for each other now. More of the same attitude will be demanded for the visit of Plymouth and with renewed hope a big crowd can be expected, especially as ticket prices have been reduced again.
Plymouth have enjoyed an improved season under colourful manager Ian Holloway, but stand in mid-table, 13 points ahead of Leeds, and they were beaten 2-1 by the Whites back in November.
Another three points are a must for Wise's men and with another match to follow on Monday afternoon at Colchester the manager hopes his side's fortunes have finally turned.
"It was a massive win. We deserved to win it with the chances we had and the performance we gave," said Wise.
"We believed. We looked at it and we're very confident with the team we have now. There's a certain target and we haven't got to worry about the other teams. We are in the group now and it's good. The players believe in what they can achieve. They all worked hard and they have a target which they want to achieve, which is to keep Leeds from going down."
l United have extended the loan spell of midfielder Radostin Kishishev until the end of the season.
The Charlton midfielder has been a key figure in the side's recent revival, but his initial month at Elland Road was up after last Friday's game. He can now stay for the last six games, but there is a 24-hour recall as part of the extended deal.
morleytoday.co.uk
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Kish confident of Whites survival
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On-loan Leeds midfielder Radostin Kishishev believes Dennis Wise's side have shown the resilience they need to pull out of trouble.
Friday's 2-1 win over Preston gave the Whites an excellent chance of beating the drop with six matches remaining.
And Kishishev, who has extended his loan from Charlton until the end of the season, told the club's official website: "I'm so happy here. We've gone four games unbeaten and when I go back to the game against Sheffield Wednesday - my first game here - we dominated and were losing 3-0 after 80 minutes.
"I was so surprised by that but we've shown we can recover and we go four games playing well.
"Hopefully we'll get more points over the next four games."
TeamTalk
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United can seal safety with Kish
WITH the extension of Radostin Kishishev's loan deal yesterday, the battle line for Leeds United's Championship run-in was immovably drawn.
Ensuring Kishishev's involvement until the end of the season was the most important transfer issue remaining on Dennis Wise's agenda after a year of unrelenting recruitment, and the job of remoulding the present squad at Elland Road is, for now, at a standstill.
Later this month, Wise may attempt to extend the temporary agreements that have brought Lubomir Michalik from Bolton and Michael Gray from Blackburn, and Gray in particular will leave over Wise's dead body.
The full-back entered United's trenches on Friday night and attacked Preston, defensively and offensively, with startling energy. His previous first-team appearance had come no fewer than 97 days earlier.
But it is the retention of Kishishev, himself a peripheral Premiership player, that will matter most to Wise at the end of a rousing month.
The midfielder's welcome to Elland Road was somewhat frosty, introduced as he was during a 3-2 defeat to Sheffield Wednesday, but his quiet influence and industrious contribution has assisted United's first show of respectable form this season.
The standard of Jonathan Douglas' performance against Preston on Friday evening – perhaps his most competent in a Leeds shirt – was an indication of the balance which Kishishev has provided in a midfield that has been hopelessly disjointed and unsettled since Leeds opened their campaign against Norwich City.
Douglas was typically aggressive and prevented North End from exploiting the little possession they had, but the space afforded to him on and around the halfway line was a rare pleasure, and a revealing sign of the understanding that United's partnership in the centre of midfield are developing.
Kishishev's game is not without flair, but his reliable grasp of football's basics, and his ability to lift pressure from players around him, has been of greater value to Leeds.
It will worry Wise to remember that Douglas is one booking short of a three-match ban, a tightrope that he has walked carefully since his yellow card against Luton at the start of last month.
Wise would sooner see his captain risk suspension than withdraw to the fringes of United's fixtures, but the potential loss of Douglas is perhaps the biggest threat to a line-up that should now be settled.
It has taken Leeds until five weeks before the end of the season to find an effective formula, and Wise's praise of his players on Friday evening was almost the sound of a satisfied man.
"We're very confident with the team we've got now," he said.
"It's been tough doing it. We've had a lot of injuries, a lot of people missing and a lot of changes. It's been difficult times.
"They've kept themselves going and they believe in what they have to achieve.
They want to save Leeds from going down."
Wise ordered several of his players into Thorp Arch for training on Saturday before resuming his work with the full squad yesterday, but Friday's performance was the essence of commitment.
Kishishev and David Healy fought through 90 minutes having been rushed into domestic service 48 hours after international duty in midweek.
Gray, meanwhile, performed in a manner which spoke volumes about his and Blackburn's approach to personal fitness at Ewood Park.
Wise described Gray as a "good player" after the victory over Preston, which might have been the understatement of the night.
The full-back already seems like a crucial link in a position that has troubled Leeds all season.
According to comments from Ken Bates in United's matchday programme, Leeds were given – and rejected – the chance to sign Gray last summer, when Kevin Blackwell was in charge.
Wise said: "He did very well. He's a good player.
"I've been chasing him for a little while. There are a couple of players who you chase but you have to wait for. Kish was another one.
"We target certain players, and we nearly signed Lubo (permanently) but unfortunately he was whisked off to Bolton.
"These are players with a lot of quality about them, and who can help Leeds United."
From the wider perspective in English football, the club's situation seems to depend on Healy more than anyone.
The Northern Ireland forward returned to the starting line-up on Friday after three games on the bench, and it is inconceivable that he will be overlooked during the final six games of the season with so much outside attention on the striker and Leeds.
Wise admitted Elland Road had been a "madhouse" after Healy's dramatic winner over Preston, but his desire to return calm to a pulsating club will be hampered by a rush on tickets for this weekend's game at home to Plymouth Argyle.
Saturday's crowd is expected to reach a capacity of around 31,000 – Leeds have decided against opening the upper tier of the East Stand – and produce their biggest attendance of the season, surpassing the crowd of 29,593 that saw February's midweek draw with QPR.
Wise said: "Let's come down now.
"We've got work to do and a couple of games coming up which are very important to us."
Kilde: YEP (http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2220038&SectionID=46)
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Klarer vi 3 seiere og 2 uavgjort på de 6 siste tror jeg mye er gjort for å sikre vår framtid i divisjonen. Og ja det tror jeg faktisk vi klarer.
Forever Leeds
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Radostin Kishishev og Gray er to solide låne spillere..som kan vise seg og være gull verd. Trur vi klarer oss..med ett nødskrik. Snart bedre målforskjell enn enkelte av de andre "bunn" lagene..viktig det og.
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Gode venner, denne posten ble postet første gang 27.mars 2007, deretter 30.mars, og nå for 3 gang.
pr. 27.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 30.mars: Leeds-Preston 2-1 ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 31.mars: Nei, alt håp er ikke ute (bra resultater for oss)
pr. 3.april: Nei, alt håp er ikke ute, selv om burnely og qpr vann
pr. 6.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 7.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 9.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 14.april:? Revidert 30.3: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 17.april:?
pr. 20.april:?
pr. 21.april:?
pr. 23.april:?
pr. 28.april:?
pr. 6.mai:?
Merkelig liste, hva?
Datoene representerer når Leeds spiller, eller et av de vi kjemper mot spiller. Med 3 fortløpende tap mot Plymoth, Colchester og Burnley, så er det ikke sikkert det er en teoretisk sjanse for overlevelse en gang ( hvis minst 4 av de andre laga samler veldig mye poeng samtidig )
Pessimister, realister eller optimister, jeg tror alle innerst inne håper på seier mot PNE Plymouth. Det kan skje.
Sorry, men jeg kommer til å repetere dennne posten fremover.
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Gode venner, denne posten ble postet første gang 27.mars 2007, deretter 30.mars, og nå for 3 gang.
pr. 27.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 30.mars: Leeds-Preston 2-1 ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 31.mars: Nei, alt håp er ikke ute (bra resultater for oss)
pr. 3.april: Nei, alt håp er ikke ute, selv om burnely og qpr vann
pr. 6.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 7.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 9.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 14.april:? Revidert 30.3: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 17.april:? Revidert 9.4: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 20.april:? Revidert 9.4: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 21.april:?
pr. 28.april:?
pr. 6.mai:?
Merkelig liste, hva?
Datoene representerer når Leeds spiller, eller et av de vi kjemper mot spiller. Med 3 fortløpende tap mot Colchester, Burnley og Southampton så er det ikke sikkert det er en teoretisk sjanse for overlevelse en gang ( hvis minst 4 av de andre laga samler veldig mye poeng samtidig )
Pessimister, realister eller optimister, jeg tror alle innerst inne håper på seier mot Colchester, som har divisjonens beste hjemmestatistikk ( inntil i dag ). Det kan skje.
Sorry, men jeg kommer til å repetere dennne posten fremover.
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Gode venner, denne posten ble postet første gang 27.mars 2007, deretter 30.mars, og nå for 4 gang.
pr. 27.mars: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 30.mars: Leeds-Preston 2-1 ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 31.mars: Nei, alt håp er ikke ute (bra resultater for oss)
pr. 3.april: Nei, alt håp er ikke ute, selv om burnely og qpr vann
pr. 6.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 7.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 9.april: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 14.april:? Revidert 30.3: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 17.april:? Revidert 9.4: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 20.april:? Revidert 9.4: Nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 21.april:? Revidert 14.4: nei, det er ikke det ( alt håp er ikke ute )
pr. 28.april:?
pr. 6.mai:?
Merkelig liste, hva?
Datoene representerer når Leeds spiller, eller et av de vi kjemper mot spiller. Med 2 fortløpende tap mot Southampton og Ipswich så er det ikke sikkert det er en teoretisk sjanse for overlevelse en gang ( hvis de 5 andre laga samler veldig mye poeng samtidig )
Pessimister, realister eller optimister, jeg tror alle innerst inne håper på seier mot Southampton. Det kan skje.
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O'Leary belief in Leeds prospects
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O'Leary was boss at Leeds from October 1998 to June 2002
Former Leeds boss David O'Leary says the Elland Road club have started to raise their game just in time to help survive in the Championship.
Leeds beat Burnley to win for the second time in three games, although they are still in the bottom three.
"Their form over the last few games has been good and they've started to win games. That's what they need ," O'Leary told BBC Five Live's Sportsweek.
"There are still plenty of clubs in the mix and it is going to be very tight."
Leeds lost in the play-off final last season under Kevin Blackwell but he was sacked as manager by chairman Ken Bates shortly into the present campaign.
Bates brought in Dennis Wise but he has struggled to instigate the club's rise out of the relegation zone.
"I don't really know Kevin and what went on within the club but it came as a great shock to a lot of people round the city when he was replaced," added O'Leary.
"I never wanted to leave. The fans are fantastic to me here. I hope they stay up because I had great times at the club.
BBC Sport
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Wise confident of staying up
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Dennis Wise remains upbeat about Leeds United's chances of staving off relegation.
The Whites are level on points with fourth-from-bottom Hull City with three games to play and travel to play-off chasing Southampton at the weekend.
Ipswich Town then visit Elland Road before the season concludes with a trip to promotion-seeking Derby County.
But though Leeds have a tough climax to the season, Wise is confident his team can do enough to stay in the Championship.
"It's going to go, as I've said before, all the way to the wire," said Wise on Sky Sports News.
"It's going to be very close. We've been playing well, we've been getting points and we're in there.
"We've drawn a few teams closer now, which is good.
"It's in other people's hands, but it's also in our hands because of the goal difference and that.
"If we get a certain amount of points we'll be okay."
SkySports
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Wetherall gives backing to Leeds
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Former Leeds defender David Wetherall is backing the club's current players to escape relegation.
Bradford caretaker manager Wetherall, whose own side are embroiled in a desperate bid to beat the drop, also believes gross financial mis-management is directly to blame for the plight of both clubs.
Wetherall, who spent eight years at Leeds as a player, said: "Quite simply Leeds are in a similar situation to the one we are in - gambling financially did not pay off and that has resulted in struggles on the pitch.
"It's obviously been a shock for Leeds supporters, especially after they were so close to promotion last year. They were one game away and it's all fallen away.
"They have three tough games coming up - Southampton and Derby away and Ipswich at home - and it's not going to be easy for them.
"But they've been picking up a lot recently and their fans will have a bit more belief now. Both us and Leeds are certainly capable of staying up."
TeamTalk
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quote:
Originally posted by kjelvi
Wise confident of staying up
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Dennis Wise remains upbeat about Leeds United's chances of staving off relegation.
The Whites are level on points with fourth-from-bottom Hull City with three games to play and travel to play-off chasing Southampton at the weekend.
Ipswich Town then visit Elland Road before the season concludes with a trip to promotion-seeking Derby County.
But though Leeds have a tough climax to the season, Wise is confident his team can do enough to stay in the Championship.
"It's going to go, as I've said before, all the way to the wire," said Wise on Sky Sports News.
"It's going to be very close. We've been playing well, we've been getting points and we're in there.
"We've drawn a few teams closer now, which is good.
"It's in other people's hands, but it's also in our hands because of the goal difference and that.
"If we get a certain amount of points we'll be okay."
SkySports
Her må jeg si meg fullstendig enig med Dennis!!!
flynn
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Det er bare å bifalle DW. Med lik poenscore 3 kamper før slutt kan alt skje. Det forutsetter nok at vi tar poeng i bortekampene også. Ipswich forutsetter jeg at vi slår! La oss være optimistiske og håpe at Leeds tar U mot S & D. Da får vi 5 pts. til og 50 pts. totalt. Det holder vel??
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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Beat The Drop, Leeds, For Me
I'll be honest. I hate Leeds. Let's face it, we all do. It's universal.
There aren't many clubs you can say that about, but it's true. Whenever there's a discussion of which clubs you really, truly hate, Leeds' name comes up. It doesn't matter whether the people having the conversation support Manchester United or Macclesfield - it's the same.
We've all enjoyed their travails of recent years. But it's starting to remind me of bullying my little brother when we were kids. Yeah, it's funny at first. Yeah, you want to see how far you can push it. But, ultimately, you get the feeling it's all going to end in tears. Possibly in Casualty.
We all enjoyed watching Leeds plummet from being a side lording it over most of the Premiership as they blazed their way to a Champions League semi-final to one at the dung-end of the table. We all enjoyed a tearful Alan Smith looking like his heart had been ripped out. We all enjoyed him giving the Elland Road faithful another taste of that feeling when he bobbed off over the Pennines. We all enjoyed - and at this point, I'm perilously close to laughing out loud - the pictures of that fat kid crying in the stand at Elland Road.
We all enjoyed them getting to the play-offs last year and buggering it up (think how badly they might have done if they'd come up - this is a side that Watford thrashed). We all enjoyed their comical start to this season, the comical middle of this season, the comical...well, the comical season.
But why did we all enjoy it? Why does everyone hate Leeds? Dirty Leeds. Scum. Where does that all come from? I'm not asking because I don't understand your feelings - I'm asking because I don't entirely understand mine. 'The fans' is the usual answer we give, to both ourselves and each other, and there are an awful lot of scummy fans. But then, there are an awful lot of scummy fans of any club, and they don't generate the same consistent hate.
And, if we're honest, there are a fair few nice ones as well. Normal people like you and me. A few of them work in (the Leeds-based, for the next time anyone complains about our southern bias) F365 Towers. I've drunk with Leeds fans, played football with Leeds fans, even lived with Leeds fans (wonderfully, during and after relegation from the top flight; I still remember the joy of turning on a new copy of Pro Evo and saying, "You be Leeds and I'll...oh").
When you think about it, 'the fans' doesn't seem to be enough reason to hate them. Nor does the place - this is a lovely city, if a bit melancholy at 5pm every Saturday.
The management, perhaps? They haven't been run by the nicest people over the last few years, after all. The Ridsdale/O'Leary days are over, replaced by the era of the (if it were possible) even less loveable Bates/Wise regime. But then, isn't that more of a reason to feel sorry for Leeds United - the fans, the 'club', the actual soul of whatever it is that is Leeds United, rather than the figures on Ken Bates' balance sheets - than it is to despise them?
Fans shouldn't have to put up with their chairman charging them Premiership prices to watch Championship football; certainly not the standard of Championship football on show in LS11. They shouldn't have to put up with a shaved monkey like Dennis Wise running their club. They shouldn't have to put up with the pantomime of the chairman telling fans outside the ground: "What can we do? Look at the sh*t we're stuck with until the summer."
But Leeds have become a pantomime. There's no other word for it. You couldn't script it; if it happened on Dream Team or Footballer's Wives no-one would believe it. You couldn't script Dennis Wise's rant about a player who would "never play for the club again" after leaking his team sheet to Crystal Palace. You couldn't script the embarrassing climbdown two days later when the club admitted they didn't know who it was.
You couldn't script the club captain telling the manager the day before a major relegation scrap that he wanted a move to Luton. You couldn't script Bates' slagging matches with ex-directors in the match programme. You couldn't script what the fans have been through. Haven't they suffered enough?
Leeds can't even get sponsorship right. They were the first club to sell their arses - or, more accurately, the advertising space on the back of their shorts (and when your club employs, at the time, Sean Gregan and Paul Butler, that's a lot of advertising space). The fans had to put up with having a stand sponsored by Lurpak, of all people; indeed, The Lurpak Stand was the first thing you saw of Elland Road as you came up the motorway. It's sponsored by a skip company now. If the cap fits...
I read an article in the Yorkshire Evening Post the other week in which a prominent local journalist offered the opinion that relegation to League One would be beneficial to the club. It would offer a chance to clean out the dead wood, he opined, to start afresh. It made me laugh; I'm sure I'd read the same article by the same journalist a couple of years before, only one league higher.
Make no mistake, relegation for Leeds would be a disaster. It wouldn't be any easier to come back up from League One than it was to get back into the Premiership. And it's always a shame when a proud old club goes that far. Certainly in Yorkshire - a huge swathe of the country represented by one (not very good) Premiership club - where football has gone to the dogs in the last 15 years.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see them back on their pedestal. But they should at least be allowed to sit on the edge of the plinth while we tease them.
Come on Leeds. For your fans, for your city, for football and even - may God forgive me - for me. Pull it together. Avoid the drop.
Just don't get good again, alright?
Adam Fraser
TeamTalk
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Wise determined to hold on to star attractions to boost next campaign
LEEDS UNITED manager Dennis Wise thinks the current set of players at Elland Road are good enough to go places next season.
Wise is desperate to stave off the threat of relegation and steer Leeds back to the Premiership, but prize assets could be heading for the departure gates if the club are relegated to League One.
With three games to go, Leeds are still in the Championship relegation zone and locked in a battle to avoid the drop yet they will travel to Southampton tomorrow buoyed by a sequence of three wins in the last four games and in the knowledge that safety is now within touching distance.
The improved form of striker David Healy, the acquisition of loan signings Radostin Kishoshev, Michael Gray, Lubomir Michalik and Casper Ankergren, plus the return to fitness of striker Richard Cresswell have all made a massive difference to Leeds's on-the-field fortunes.
Although Northern Ireland ace Healy has caught the eye of Premiership clubs with goals for both club and country in the last few weeks, Wise is confident that the majority of his side would stay at Leeds next season – if they have maintained Championship status.
Wise said: "It would have been nice to have worked with this team from the start of the season. We have brought in certain players that have made it click. This side would not have been relegated.
"Our form in the last seven or eight games is up there with the best in the Championship. If it had not been, we would now be in big, big trouble," he added.
"That's why I really want us to stay up – I have got some good players and some should be playing at a higher level – but they want to achieve something at this football club which is fantastic. I get the feeling that most of the players want to stay if we stay up."
Wise believes the relegation scrap can only 'go to the wire' which puts equal importance on the club's final two games (against Ipswich Town and Derby County) as it does on tomorrow's trip to the south coast.
While Ipswich at home is regarded as the most 'winnable' fixture, it is the trip to third-placed Derby County on the final day of the season that could yet determine the club's destiny.
Derby dropped to third in the table after Birmingham's midweek victory over Leicester City and are now two points adrift of the top two automatic spots.
Wise joked: "I am hoping that Derby either have a fantastic run and get up – or have a terrible run and end up in the play-offs. Hopefully, they have a fantastic run, get up, and they all have an enjoyable week before we play them on the Sunday (May 6). That would be nice but whether that happens, I don't know."
Yorkshirepost.co.uk
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Litt statistikk over lag som er innblandet i kamper som har betydning for Leeds' skjebne:
NR.3. Derby (h) 12 6 4 31-19
NR.22. Leeds (b) 3 3 16 19-40
NR.11. Cardiff (h) 11 7 4 33-17
NR.14. Ipswich (b) 5 5 12 12-23
NR.12. Plymouth (b) 6 8 8 25-35
NR.21. Hull (h) 8 3 11 32-30
NR.21. Hull (b) 4 7 11 17-35
Vi kan jo legge merke til at Hulls bortestat. og Cardiffs hjemmestat. er symmetriske. Det kan tyde på at Hull borte får maks ett poeng. Plymouth borte er nesten hipp som happ, men Hull er sterke hjemme, og slår vel Plymouth når det står om plassen. Ipswich er ikke all verden borte, og Leeds bør kunne greie tre poeng. Hvis vi antar at Hull klarer 4 pts. må Leeds slå Derby, og da må laget overgå seg selv. Vinner Hull i Cardiff er det kjørt.
Change is the constant that cannot be changed.