LUSCOS

Hei, fant noen filmer på youtube. vis det er noen som lurer på hvordan det ser ut på Thorp Arch ;D

( inne på Thorp Arch) filmen er nok fra 2004 men bra kvalitet!

1.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUR9UWZSyBo

2  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh1W5_McmB8&feature=related

Sykt pent!! ;D

Overgikk mine forventninger.
Helt rått!

Artig video

heter det ikke Thorpe Arch?

Quote from: Sydhagen on May 13, 2009, 15:10:36
heter det ikke Thorpe Arch?

Nei, det heter vel egentlig Thorp Arch.

Bradford trener neste sesong på Weetwood i Leeds.

Top class, sier de. Er det noe for Leeds United når Thorpe Arch er blitt til boligfelt?

http://www.boyfrombrazil.co.uk/2010/04/city-move-training-to-leeds-again/

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Weetwood+leeds&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=14.619467,34.892578&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Weetwood,+Leeds,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=15

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Wow, må si jeg er veldig imponert over annlegget. Har trent en del selv på norges toppidrettssenter, selv om de har noen fysio- og restutisjons fasiliteter der, så kan det ikke sammenlignes med det man får se fra Thorp Arch.

 :o  Fantastisk!

Cellino shuts Leeds training ground for the summer in unprecedented cost-cutting drive

Published on the 09 May
2014
11:01

LEEDS United are taking the unprecedented step of temporarily closing their training ground at Thorp Arch as part of attempts by new owner Massimo Cellino to cut the club’s costs.


United, who are losing around £1million a month, will shut the complex near Wetherby from the start of next week with the intention of reopening it again when their first-team squad report back for pre-season training at the end of June.

The club’s senior players and coaching team are beginning their summer holidays after finishing the Championship term last weekend, and a number of other non-playing staff will relocate to Elland Road for the close season.

United’s academy squads have a number of fixtures remaining and are expected to fulfill them as planned, despite the closure of Thorp Arch.

Physio and medical staff normally remain at the training ground during the summer but they will be based at Elland Road too.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-utd/cellino-shuts-leeds-training-ground-for-the-summer-in-unprecedented-cost-cutting-drive-1-6607278

Høres fornuftig ut. Er vel ingen vits å ha åpent når alle spillerne er på ferie.

Burde ha benyttet pausen til å vedlikeholde anlegget.

Quote from: Sydhagen on May 09, 2014, 14:26:43
Høres fornuftig ut. Er vel ingen vits å ha åpent når alle spillerne er på ferie.

+1

Quote from: Gufrias on May 09, 2014, 17:48:02
Burde ha benyttet pausen til å vedlikeholde anlegget.

Tja. Vi står vel ikke som eiere av dette anlegget ennå, så da er det kanskje litt tidlig å bruke egne ressurser på akkurat det? Men jeg ser poenget ditt.

Quote from: HåvardK on May 09, 2014, 23:58:34

Quote from: Gufrias on May 09, 2014, 17:48:02
Burde ha benyttet pausen til å vedlikeholde anlegget.

Tja. Vi står vel ikke som eiere av dette anlegget ennå, så da er det kanskje litt tidlig å bruke egne ressurser på akkurat det? Men jeg ser poenget ditt.

Og jeg ser ditt. Jeg vet ikke hvordan leieavtalen er utformet når det gjelder ansvar for vedlikehold. Men jeg vet hvem sin preseason som tjener på best mulige fasiliteter.

På den annen side er det vel bare å innse at sparekniven er et nødvendig redskap i Cellinos verktøykasse. Kostnader som har lite å si for klubbens inntekter eller lagets prestasjoner bør helst vekk.

Hvor mye vil klubben tjente på å stenge TA?

Phil Hay
@baldyman1965 not a great deal I don't think. Rent is £600k a year

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 11, 2014, 14:15:04
Hvor mye vil klubben tjente på å stenge TA?

Phil Hay
@baldyman1965 not a great deal I don't think. Rent is £600k a year

De som jobber der tjener vel også litt selv om det skjer lite. Hva de skal gjøre vet vel bare Cellino!

Quote from: Leedsfan on May 11, 2014, 14:32:03

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 11, 2014, 14:15:04
Hvor mye vil klubben tjente på å stenge TA?

Phil Hay
@baldyman1965 not a great deal I don't think. Rent is £600k a year

De som jobber der tjener vel også litt selv om det skjer lite. Hva de skal gjøre vet vel bare Cellino!

Leedsfolkene som jobber der ser foreløpig ut til å være flyttet til ER. Dessuten tjener vi intet på stengingen, men vi sparer kanskje litt..... ::).

Problemet vårt nå er at vi ikke tjener i det hele tatt, klubben koster iflg artikkelen i YEP i dag 100 000 pund dagen å drive og månedlig tap er 1 mill, dvs 10 millioner norske blanke kroner hver måned.... :o :(

Through EPPP, Leeds were paid almost £500,000 to invest their academy.

A spokesman for the Football League denied that the organisation was preparing a formal “investigation” but said it “was meeting with the club to discuss what implications it might have on the youth development programme.”


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-football-league-look-into-training-ground-closure-1-6618830

Treningsfeltet:

* For dyrt (solgt for £ 4,2 millioner, leie pr år £ 2,5 millioner)

* For langt unna Leeds

* Fort dyrt å drive: vaktmestere, kjøkken, administrasjon, fysioer og trenere.


Vil Cellino stenge det for godt?

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-cellino-is-pondering-thorp-arch-axe-1-6628347

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Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 21, 2014, 09:38:02
Treningsfeltet:

* For dyrt (solgt for £ 4,2 millioner, leie pr år £ 2,5 millioner)

* For langt unna Leeds

* Fort dyrt å drive: vaktmestere, kjøkken, administrasjon, fysioer og trenere.


Vil Cellino stenge det for godt?

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-cellino-is-pondering-thorp-arch-axe-1-6628347

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Kanskje vi finner en billig bane i Skottland å spille hjemmekampene våre på også? Penger spart det også...

auren

Quote from: auren on May 21, 2014, 09:40:41

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 21, 2014, 09:38:02
Treningsfeltet:

* For dyrt (solgt for £ 4,2 millioner, leie pr år £ 2,5 millioner)

* For langt unna Leeds

* Fort dyrt å drive: vaktmestere, kjøkken, administrasjon, fysioer og trenere.


Vil Cellino stenge det for godt?

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-cellino-is-pondering-thorp-arch-axe-1-6628347

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Kanskje vi finner en billig bane i Skottland å spille hjemmekampene våre på også? Penger spart det også...

auren

:D

Tror dette er taktikk, for å få ned leien på annlegget. Eva få en bedre pris om han kjøper T.A tilbake

Uansett- Leeds har vært elendig styrt i mange år. Noen MÃ... ta ansvar og rydde opp i økonomien

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 11, 2014, 14:15:04
Hvor mye vil klubben tjente på å stenge TA?

Phil Hay
@baldyman1965 not a great deal I don't think. Rent is £600k a year

Ingen ting! De sparer på å stenge ;D

Har det blitt noe klarhet i hvem som eier TA?

Begge artiklene i YEP om TA:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-cellino-is-pondering-thorp-arch-axe-1-6628347

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-state-of-the-art-facility-but-a-luxury-whites-cannot-afford-1-6628340


Vil klubben flytte treningsfasilitetene til Universitetsområdet?

At a stroke, the sale of the training ground to Jacob Adler, a Manchester property developer, 10 years ago raised £4.2m and guaranteed Leeds both a buy-back provision and permission to rent the facility until 2029. After less than two months as United’s owner, Massimo Cellino cannot even say if Thorp Arch will be used by the club next season.

A fortnight ago, the Italian businessman closed the training ground as part of a substantial money-saving exercise at Leeds, leaving the bare minimum of staff to tend to the many pitches there. The idea was to reopen Thorp Arch before pre-season training began but Cellino and United are heading for a stand-off with landlord Barnaway, the firm used by Adler to purchase Thorp Arch in 2004.

Cellino says the annual cost of using Thorp Arch is somewhere in the region of £2.5m. The rent of the complex costs £600,000 a year and increases by three per cent every October. It is not known whether Leeds have the right to break their lease.

“The club have been there paying rent for 10 years,” Cellino said. “If we are there for another 10 or 15 years, we’ll have paid someone £20m to use the training ground.

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 21, 2014, 21:18:43
At a stroke, the sale of the training ground to Jacob Adler, a Manchester property developer, 10 years ago raised £4.2m and guaranteed Leeds both a buy-back provision and permission to rent the facility until 2029. After less than two months as United’s owner, Massimo Cellino cannot even say if Thorp Arch will be used by the club next season.

A fortnight ago, the Italian businessman closed the training ground as part of a substantial money-saving exercise at Leeds, leaving the bare minimum of staff to tend to the many pitches there. The idea was to reopen Thorp Arch before pre-season training began but Cellino and United are heading for a stand-off with landlord Barnaway, the firm used by Adler to purchase Thorp Arch in 2004.

Cellino says the annual cost of using Thorp Arch is somewhere in the region of £2.5m. The rent of the complex costs £600,000 a year and increases by three per cent every October. It is not known whether Leeds have the right to break their lease.

“The club have been there paying rent for 10 years,” Cellino said. “If we are there for another 10 or 15 years, we’ll have paid someone £20m to use the training ground.

Takker :)

Lider vi av et merverdighetskompleks?

QuoteThe Leeds United Superiority Complex

by Right In The Gary Kelly's


There’s been a lot of talk recently about what Leeds United should and shouldn’t be doing over the summer. More specifically what our new owner should be doing to get us back on track. My fellow writer Matt touched on this in his article this week, and fellow Leeds fans were quick to respond with thoughts of their own. Some of the comments got me thinking though â€" do we, as Leeds fans, have a superiority complex? Almost the opposite of small Club syndrome if you like; are we suffering from big Club syndrome? I think we might be…

Let’s start with Thorp Arch. There was an outcry like you wouldn’t believe when Massimo Cellino announced that they were considering “all options”, including moving out of Thorp Arch entirely. Now that option may very well depend on the terms of the lease, and whether either (a) a lease break exists in the near future, or (b) the current owner, Jacob Adler, is interested in ending our lease prematurely. With the housing shortage in Leeds, it might well be that he could do that, and sell the land for more than Leeds United could buy it back for.

But I digress. Every time exiting Thorp Arch is mentioned, fans hit back with how many players have said Thorp Arch’s facilities were part of a reason for them joining the Club. Really? So they’re signing for Leeds because we have plush training facilities? Sorry, but give me players like Andy Hughes and David Prutton any day â€" players who didn’t even know if they would get paid when they signed on the dotted line. And has Thorp Arch really improved the vast majority of our signings that much? Did Luke Varney leave a better player than when he joined? Did Paul Green? Would they have been worse players for spending the last 2 years training at Roundhay Park? Probably not!

Thorp Arch is a Premier League facility, and costs Premier League money to run. The hard facts of the matter are that we are not a Premier League team, haven’t been for a decade, and do not have Premier League money. As a rather ropey analogy, if I was earning a million quid a year, and had a house and a holiday cottage, but then lost my job, what would be the first thing to go? The holiday cottage. If Cellino does decide that we’re turning our back on Thorp Arch I have no problem with that; if and when we get back to the Premier League, we can look at building Premier League class facilities again then.

Supporters also seem aghast at the thought of the likes of Ross McCormack and Sam Byram being sold to ease financial difficulties. Let’s be realistic here â€" we finished 15th in the Championship this season. Cellino, whether it be because of a lack of due diligence, witchcraft in the books, or buying the Club after one too many bottles of Peroni, HAS to sort out the finances before anything else. Because stumbling from one financial disaster to the next just doesn’t work, as we’ve seen time and time again. Every player has their price â€" if top Premier League players can be prized away from just about any club, then who are we kidding to think that are players can’t be? If McCormack and Byram are sold (I’m struggling to think of anyone else who might command a decent fee) and the money is used to finally get us on an even keel, who are we to complain? We have no divine right to keep our best players, and we have a duty to finally get the financial albatross off our back.

The above might sound pessimistic, but we’ve labored for too long under the misapprehension that we’re a big Club. At the moment, we simply aren’t. We can’t afford £100k per year each on three club ambassadors. We can’t afford Premier League class training facilities. And we might not be able to afford to keep our best players. None of this is Cellino’s fault; it’s the fault of previous regimes who thought that we could lumber on footing the cost of the above, and worry about it later. Well Cellino is worrying about it NOW, and if that means a season or two of transition, then we will be all the better for it in the long term.

We’ve won titles before Thorp Arch existed, and we’ve sold our best players before and got over it. Try and see the potential in any changes that happen in the coming months, because not making those changes could be even worse for the fallen giants.

http://rightinthegarykellys.com/2014/05/30/the-leeds-united-superiority-complex/

West Yorkshire Sport @WYSDaily  ·  1m
#lufc MC says his intention is to find training facilities closer to the ground and leave Thorp Arch. "It's too far away, too expensive."

TA is cursed:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2014/06/20/thorpe-arch-is-cursed-massimo-cellino-determined-to-move-leeds-training-base/146423/


Påstår at TA ble bygget i 2002, men det er vel bom på en 8-9 år!  :)

Quote from: Leedsgutt on June 19, 2014, 14:27:58
West Yorkshire Sport @WYSDaily  Â·  1m
#lufc MC says his intention is to find training facilities closer to the ground and leave Thorp Arch. "It's too far away, too expensive."

Dette kan vel også være for å presse leieprisen ned
(hvem var det som snakket om tilbakekjøp for en stund siden???)

Det å flytte treningsanlegget nærmere banen kan være et positivt trekk. Bare så synd at man ikke kan gå tilbake til da man trente vegg i vegg med Elland Road. Husker jeg var og så gutte trene og var inne å gressmatta og tok noen bilder ( Synd bildene er borte i en brann ). Ville liksom ikke tråkke for mye på gresset. Så sa Wilko til meg. You are f**king more afraid  to ruin the grass then i am. Gode minner å ta med meg videre inn mot graven om endel år 

Spørs om de får tak i et treningsområde med samme kvalitet. Er ikke thorp arch kjent for å ha svært høy kvalitet?

Kan jo være ett pluss og komme seg vekk fra Thorp Arch, ut å tren med ispigger på vintern. "Man Up" dagens fotball gutter. he he..
;)

Et annet poeng er selvsagt, taper klubben penger, så må det taes tak i

MOT

Quote from: Xern... on June 23, 2014, 19:14:39
Spørs om de får tak i et treningsområde med samme kvalitet. Er ikke thorp arch kjent for å ha svært høy kvalitet?

Egentlig litt på siden spørsmål så lenge vi mangler spillere med høy kvalitet!   :)

Superstition or Business Intelligence â€" Thorp Arch and the Academy

July 8, 2014   News, Youth news   No comments

I have always felt that youth are vital to a football clubs success. Leeds United has proved that youth not only brings success but can set a standard for future players who want the opportunity of becoming a Leeds United player. Over the past weeks we have seen our youth training facility, that at one time was considered to be one of the best in the country, (maybe even the world) “temporarily” shut down. We have seen our new owner describe the facility as “not right” and it has been considered by him to be bad luck. Since 2002, Thorp Arch Academy has had many young talented footballers come through and go on to have successful careers at Leeds or in top leagues across the world. Why would this be shut down and frozen in time?

Currently, the Academy is rumored to be costing over 400k per year and that price rising at a rate of 3% each year. Honestly, that money could be well spent in other areas of the club including player wages etc… Mr. Cellino’s thoughts that he shared with us in a press conference were that he would like to look into moving the Academy closer to the Club. He claims it’s “far away” and is a “waste of time” to drive back and forth just to train. This would save any travel expenses for the club long-term.

I have read a lot of mixed views from posts and comments over the past few weeks regarding the shutdown of Thorp Arch and I can understand the fear that comes with the decision. However, looking at the Championship, it’s a league that gets more challenging each year. The clubs that are being relegated have parachute payments that they may use to pay off their debt and give them the opportunity to still spend money on new players to get them back up to the Premiership. Also, the clubs that are coming down are not awful. Norwich being relegated may be the joke of the summer, but with a midfield of players most fans thought could have taken us up, (when Grayson was manager) did survive two seasons with Norwich in the Premiership. This signals that the clubs coming down are much better than we may like to believe. If the main priority is to hit the multi-million lottery from promotion, spending on players who can get on the pitch right away could mean more to our club than spending money on nurturing an Academy that could give us only 2-3 players that are good enough quality for getting Leeds out of the Championship. Not to mention, these 2-3 players may need to spend time out on loan in order to even be challenging for a first team spot.

In my opinion, Mr. Cellino does have a great point. He would like Leeds United to operate like a business. Mr. Cellino has claimed that the club should be paying for itself operationally and that he will worry about buying players. Mr. Cellino does not understand why a club with passionate fans worldwide who spend thousands of dollars on tickets or merchandise cannot stay out of debt. I don’t either.

Could Leeds United survive a couple of seasons without Thorp Arch? Time will only tell.

Read more at http://leedsallover.com/superstition-or-business-intelligence-thorp-arch-and-the-academy/#P5J6LQomRyflGBlw.99

Folk begynner å spekulere på om TA snart er historie og at Leeds bygger et enda mer moderne treningssenter nærmere Elland Road:


WTFIGO @ tony_garnet
@benleeds I work for a major architect firm in Glasgow, been retained to draw plans for a 12ha site in Wetherby local office excluded 1/2

@benleeds 2/2 due to potential for bad PR if this gets out, from the drawings I have seen it looks like TA? Client from BVA, you heard owt ?


:P

Quote from: jorso on August 18, 2014, 20:43:55
Eh...I Wetherby?Det er vel ganske langt unna Elland Road eller?

Nesten like langt som Thorp Arch.....  ;)

Hvor langt ligger egentlig TA utenfor Leeds?

Ã... ha et treningsanlegg vis-a-vis Elland Road ville jo vært det mest ideelle, men det skjer vel neppe. Kanskje Cellino ønsker å se til Man. City som vel i disse dager åpner et ganske drøyt treningsanlegg.

Quote from: Trulsaren on August 18, 2014, 22:13:53
Hvor langt ligger egentlig TA utenfor Leeds?

Ã... ha et treningsanlegg vis-a-vis Elland Road ville jo vært det mest ideelle, men det skjer vel neppe. Kanskje Cellino ønsker å se til Man. City som vel i disse dager åpner et ganske drøyt treningsanlegg.

Svimlende 22.3 kilometer, noe som betyr en enorm 28 minutters kjøretur.
Wetherby, derimot er usle 26 minutter og 21.9 kilometer unna. Med en klassisk italiensk størelse tropp på ca 60 spillere sparer man dermed to timer hver vei samlet sett på hele troppen. En time om vi bare teller troppen vi har per nå.

Vel å merke er dette regnet ut på grunnlag av google maps si kjørerute lams M1 og A1. Det er kortere gjennom sentrum. Korteste ruta er bare 15 km til Wetherby, 17, 2 km til Thorp Arch. Men den tar seks min lenger tid.

Hvis dette er tilfelle er det i hvert fall tydelig at påstanden om at Thorp Arch er "for langt unna" er et tåpelig skalkeskjul. Det er ikke som om spillerne bor i hvert sitt hus langs Elland Road heller. Men det er godt mulig det blir vel så rimelig å bygge nytt treningssenter som å få kjøpt tilbake og vedlikeholde Thorp Arch. Helt greit det, men da bør de si såpass. Ingen blir vel i harnisk over det?

Quote from: Asbjørn on June 20, 2014, 16:03:01

Quote from: Leedsgutt on June 19, 2014, 14:27:58
West Yorkshire Sport @WYSDaily  Â·  1m
#lufc MC says his intention is to find training facilities closer to the ground and leave Thorp Arch. "It's too far away, too expensive."

Dette kan vel også være for å presse leieprisen ned
(hvem var det som snakket om tilbakekjøp for en stund siden???)

tycker cellino kan pressa TA ägare att sänka hyran 25-50% alternativt bygga nytt

Quote from: sportcarl1 on August 19, 2014, 00:31:56

Quote from: Asbjørn on June 20, 2014, 16:03:01

Quote from: Leedsgutt on June 19, 2014, 14:27:58
West Yorkshire Sport @WYSDaily  ·  1m
#lufc MC says his intention is to find training facilities closer to the ground and leave Thorp Arch. "It's too far away, too expensive."

Dette kan vel også være for å presse leieprisen ned
(hvem var det som snakket om tilbakekjøp for en stund siden???)

tycker cellino kan pressa TA ägare att sänka hyran 25-50% alternativt bygga nytt

Kan være at han presser leiepris og kanskje kjøpspris ned?

Det må sikkert være en pliktig lånsperiode vi må følge?

Quote from: Leedsfan on August 19, 2014, 14:48:04

Quote from: sportcarl1 on August 19, 2014, 00:31:56

Quote from: Asbjørn on June 20, 2014, 16:03:01

Quote from: Leedsgutt on June 19, 2014, 14:27:58
West Yorkshire Sport @WYSDaily  ·  1m
#lufc MC says his intention is to find training facilities closer to the ground and leave Thorp Arch. "It's too far away, too expensive."

Dette kan vel også være for å presse leieprisen ned
(hvem var det som snakket om tilbakekjøp for en stund siden???)

tycker cellino kan pressa TA ägare att sänka hyran 25-50% alternativt bygga nytt

Kan være at han presser leiepris og kanskje kjøpspris ned?

Det må sikkert være en pliktig lånsperiode vi må følge?

Før finanskrisen var hovedgrunnen til å kjøpe Thorp Arch mulighetene for eidendomsutvikling. Usikker på om britisk økonomi har tatt seg såpass opp igjen at det fortsatt er lukrativt.

Quote from: lojosang on August 19, 2014, 15:12:47

Quote from: Leedsfan on August 19, 2014, 14:48:04

Quote from: sportcarl1 on August 19, 2014, 00:31:56

Quote from: Asbjørn on June 20, 2014, 16:03:01

Quote from: Leedsgutt on June 19, 2014, 14:27:58
West Yorkshire Sport @WYSDaily  ·  1m
#lufc MC says his intention is to find training facilities closer to the ground and leave Thorp Arch. "It's too far away, too expensive."

Dette kan vel også være for å presse leieprisen ned
(hvem var det som snakket om tilbakekjøp for en stund siden???)

tycker cellino kan pressa TA ägare att sänka hyran 25-50% alternativt bygga nytt

Kan være at han presser leiepris og kanskje kjøpspris ned?

Det må sikkert være en pliktig lånsperiode vi må følge?

Før finanskrisen var hovedgrunnen til å kjøpe Thorp Arch mulighetene for eidendomsutvikling. Usikker på om britisk økonomi har tatt seg såpass opp igjen at det fortsatt er lukrativt.

Mener Cellino i et intervju for en stund siden sa at leieprisen på TA fikk en kraftig økning kommende sesong.. Om han klarer å snakke oss til en bedre deal er vel det prima :)

Cellino oppgraderer Thorp Arch:

http://twitter.com/Sjonesselby/status/505036943571566592/photo/1


Nytt proturf på bane 1!   :D

QuoteAndrew Dalton ‏@lufcstats  Â· 18m  
Can fans watch training at thorp arch these days?

QuoteSimon Westmoreland ‏@simonw91  Â· 14m  
@lufcstats I've often wondered that

QuoteGary LUFC ‏@Gary_Calter  Â· 7m  
@simonw91 @lufcstats @lucywardleeds will know?

Lucy Ward ‏@lucywardleeds  Â· 2m  
@Gary_Calter @simonw91 @lufcstats no watching of training no but can watch u21 games!

 

QuoteAndrew Dalton ‏@lufcstats  Â· 1m  
@lucywardleeds @Gary_Calter @simonw91 thanks Lucy :)

...det er vel fortsatt bare avtaler med Stix som ordner sånt :)

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Houses to be built on Leeds United training ground car park

Leeds United training ground in Thorp Arch.
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2014
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Leeds United training ground’s overspill car park will be replaced by four houses next year.

Planning permission was initially refused in 2012 and again in June 2014 after it was resubmitted with amendments by applicants DM North Ltd.

After this second refusal an appeal was launched and the planning inspectorate has now ruled in favour of the applicants, permitting development on the site that was used as an overspill carpark until earlier this year.

Director of agents England and Lyle Planning Consultants Jeremy Good said: “We are delighted with the result which will now see this previously developed site deliver much needed housing.

“The appeal decision follows a long drawn out series of applications during which LCC were largely unwilling to discuss matters such as affordable housing. We are pleased that the Inspectorate has agreed with our methodology rather than the slightly peculiar approach taken by the council.

“We demonstrated that the parking was no longer needed by Leeds United and that overspill parking was available if required.”

Though LCC’s refusal was for highway safety, the inspector concluded that the proposal would not be detrimental and could provide affordable housing.

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on November 01, 2014, 22:56:30
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Houses to be built on Leeds United training ground car park

Cellino har tidlig ute med sin skepsis mot Thorpe Arch - plutselig var dette ikke lenger stedet vi viste frem til våre nysigneringer (og vi ble lovprist for), det har blitt et 'spøkelsessted'. Folk finner det forlatt, nesten uten ansatte på...

Jeg finner det trist!    >:(
Greit nok at det er litt avsides, men når en alternativ tomt blir sagt å ligge omtrent like langt unna Elland Road forteller det alt. Vel begynner anlegget å bli noen år, og trenger sikkert opprustning - men det er da en helt annen pris knyttet til det enn å bygge et helt nytt anlegg.

Nei, Massimo, host opp noe nytt på flekken eller gjør Thorpe Arch 'levende' igjen!

Quote from: Asbjørn on November 02, 2014, 11:18:55

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on November 01, 2014, 22:56:30
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Houses to be built on Leeds United training ground car park

Cellino har tidlig ute med sin skepsis mot Thorpe Arch - plutselig var dette ikke lenger stedet vi viste frem til våre nysigneringer (og vi ble lovprist for), det har blitt et 'spøkelsessted'. Folk finner det forlatt, nesten uten ansatte på...

Jeg finner det trist!    >:(
Greit nok at det er litt avsides, men når en alternativ tomt blir sagt å ligge omtrent like langt unna Elland Road forteller det alt. Vel begynner anlegget å bli noen år, og trenger sikkert opprustning - men det er da en helt annen pris knyttet til det enn å bygge et helt nytt anlegg.

Nei, Massimo, host opp noe nytt på flekken eller gjør Thorpe Arch 'levende' igjen!

Massimo jobber for å få etablert et nytt treningssenter mye nærmere Elland Road. Dette kan kanskje knyttes til samtalene med Red Bull:

Yet he admitted he HAS been talking to someone purporting to be a representative of Red Bull (this purporting bit was a little confusing). This could potentially lead to the global giant investing in a new training centre for the club.

Cellino has never made any secret of his dislike for the current Thorp Arch training ground - too expensive, too far from his office at Elland Road and, in any case, an unlucky venue.

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on November 02, 2014, 13:54:17

Cellino has never made any secret of his dislike for the current Thorp Arch training ground - too expensive, too far from his office at Elland Road and, in any case, an unlucky venue.

...det er nettopp dèt, hvis det er avstanden fra Elland Road som er hovedargumentet, og alternativet fortsatt er Wheterby så viser jeg bare til lojo's innelgg fra august om avstandene Thorpe Arch-Elland Road vs Wheterby-Elland Road:

QuoteSvimlende 22.3 kilometer, noe som betyr en enorm 28 minutters kjøretur.
Wetherby, derimot er usle 26 minutter og 21.9 kilometer unna.

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Eyes on Thorp Arch - *very* exciting plans for an alternative training complex. Tip of the iceberg though as #lufc about to move up a gear.

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 23, 2017, 23:14:35
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Eyes on Thorp Arch - *very* exciting plans for an alternative training complex. Tip of the iceberg though as #lufc about to move up a gear.

Kilde?

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Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 23, 2017, 23:14:35
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Eyes on Thorp Arch - *very* exciting plans for an alternative training complex. Tip of the iceberg though as #lufc about to move up a gear.

Kilde?

Dette er vist fra en som "jobbet" i Time To Leave Massimo eller hva den het den gruppen.

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Quote from: Xern... on May 24, 2017, 11:53:59

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 23, 2017, 23:14:35
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Eyes on Thorp Arch - *very* exciting plans for an alternative training complex. Tip of the iceberg though as #lufc about to move up a gear.

Kilde?

Dette er vist fra en som "jobbet" i Time To Leave Massimo eller hva den het den gruppen.

Disse gutta hadde mye kontakt med Rad gjennom våren! Håper at noe av lekkasjene er positive nyheter.

Det sies også endel om innkjøp av spillere med talent. Tror også vi må rektuttere internasjonalt til akademiet.

Om et Akademi eller Centre of excellence skal ligge 30-45 min fra byen eller mer sentralt syd for Leeds er vel underordnet.

United’s Thorp Arch training ground was also bought by Adler at the same time but the club’s right to repurchase that property elapsed in 2009 while Ken Bates was chairman. Leeds are tied to a lease of the Wetherby complex for another 12 years with a rent which increases annual. Radrizzani, however, is understood to be drawing up plans for extensive work to the land surrounding Elland Road, including the construction of a new training centre by 2020.

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will run some quotes from him about TA later. Is evidently planning to build a new complex closer to ER

With further information at hand, that's a badly written piece in the YP which lacks clarity.
 
In the skysports interview Rad clearly says ER and the area around it will be developed with LCC and other interested parties working together AND they would identify another location within the area to build a modern training facility whilst upgrading TA in the short term.

LCC - Leeds City Council (kommunen)

Quote from: Asbjørn on May 25, 2017, 11:23:31
With further information at hand, that's a badly written piece in the YP which lacks clarity.
 
In the skysports interview Rad clearly says ER and the area around it will be developed with LCC and other interested parties working together AND they would identify another location within the area to build a modern training facility whilst upgrading TA in the short term.

LCC - Leeds City Council (kommunen)

Her snakker vi sikkert 10-20 år frem i tiden planlegging.
Radden er her for å bli


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Quote from: Sydhagen on May 25, 2017, 11:31:51

Her snakker vi sikkert 10-20 år frem i tiden planlegging.
Radden er her for å bli

Det er nettopp det. Han snakker ikke som en 'broker' for andre. :)

Phil Hay på muligheten om å flytte treningsfeltet nærmere Elland Road og byen Leeds nå som Andrea Radrizziani har begynt å satse stort på klubben:

"been told that sites in Holbeck being considered for training ground"

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on June 30, 2017, 11:55:21
Phil Hay på muligheten om å flytte treningsfeltet nærmere Elland Road og byen Leeds nå som Andrea Radrizziani har begynt å satse stort på klubben:

"been told that sites in Holbeck being considered for training ground"

Eneste område der jeg kan tenke meg er rett bak The Commercial. Hvis den er plass da

Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Jay Smith

Well we have a new indoor 4g and outside of building painted blue .. man of his word..


Rad jobb på TA!!!

Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

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Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

Noe for LUSCOS å arrangere en dugnad, pusse opp og drifte her??? Familien Lorimer vil vel gi sin velsignelse...

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Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

Noe for LUSCOS å arrangere en dugnad, pusse opp og drifte her??? Familien Lorimer vil vel gi sin velsignelse...

Fantastisk forslag!

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Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

Noe for LUSCOS å arrangere en dugnad, pusse opp og drifte her??? Familien Lorimer vil vel gi sin velsignelse...

Fantastisk forslag!

Enig. Spennende  :) Og et egnet navn for puben kunne jo være Hot Shot?  :)

auren

Quote from: JacobScreek on July 21, 2017, 11:28:57

Quote from: Torpedo on July 21, 2017, 08:22:32

Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

Noe for LUSCOS å arrangere en dugnad, pusse opp og drifte her??? Familien Lorimer vil vel gi sin velsignelse...

Sjukt spennende idé!

Quote from: auren on July 21, 2017, 12:10:57

Quote from: DenHviteYeboah on July 21, 2017, 12:00:03

Quote from: JacobScreek on July 21, 2017, 11:28:57

Quote from: Torpedo on July 21, 2017, 08:22:32

Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

Noe for LUSCOS å arrangere en dugnad, pusse opp og drifte her??? Familien Lorimer vil vel gi sin velsignelse...

Fantastisk forslag!

Enig. Spennende  :) Og et egnet navn for puben kunne jo være Hot Shot?  :)

auren

Er vel nye eiere på bygningen og den skal rives er siste vi vet

Quote from: Runar on July 21, 2017, 12:31:32

Quote from: auren on July 21, 2017, 12:10:57

Quote from: DenHviteYeboah on July 21, 2017, 12:00:03

Quote from: JacobScreek on July 21, 2017, 11:28:57

Quote from: Torpedo on July 21, 2017, 08:22:32

Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

Noe for LUSCOS å arrangere en dugnad, pusse opp og drifte her??? Familien Lorimer vil vel gi sin velsignelse...

Fantastisk forslag!

Enig. Spennende  :) Og et egnet navn for puben kunne jo være Hot Shot?  :)

auren

Er vel nye eiere på bygningen og den skal rives er siste vi vet

Da må du, Rudi, Ollan og resten av gjengen reise bort og lenke dere fast!

auren

Quote from: auren on July 21, 2017, 12:10:57

Quote from: DenHviteYeboah on July 21, 2017, 12:00:03

Quote from: JacobScreek on July 21, 2017, 11:28:57

Quote from: Torpedo on July 21, 2017, 08:22:32

Quote from: h.b on June 30, 2017, 12:08:26
Og skjer det, ja da er det synd at puben er lagt ned. Kunne fått en ny vår den puben

Er puben lagt ned for godt?

Noe for LUSCOS å arrangere en dugnad, pusse opp og drifte her??? Familien Lorimer vil vel gi sin velsignelse...

Fantastisk forslag!

Enig. Spennende  :) Og et egnet navn for puben kunne jo være Hot Shot?  :)

auren

Jeg er mer fan av Cellar Chilled Pint.

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Det taes stadig steg mot et nytt treningsanlegg...

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/councillors-set-to-discuss-potential-leeds-united-training-ground-move-within-city-1-8797627

https://www.leedsunited.com/news/club-news/22428/angus-kinnnear-on-leeds-city-council-report

Møte i neste uke...

MoscowhiteTSB‏ @MoscowhiteTSB  1h
1 hour ago
For folk asking where Matthew Murray High School site is â€"here ya go #LUFC

I forhold til Elland Road:
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...men Hay forteller om krav fra kommunen

Phil Hay‏ @PhilHayYEP  2h
2 hours ago
According to the council report, there are issues with Matthew Murray. Local councillors there want housing to be built on the land.
also, part of the land there is currently used by local primary school as playing fields. That said, "the school is supportive" of the plans

Phil Hay‏ @PhilHayYEP  2h
2 hours ago
From the council report, this is what Leeds United are looking for in any development plan:

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Phil Hay‏ @PhilHayYEP  1h
1 hour ago
From the report, Leeds say they would have the break the TA lease agreement before finalising plans for a new training ground:

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MoscowhiteTSB‏ @MoscowhiteTSB  2h
2 hours ago


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Site/ownership plans from the LCC/#LUFC training ground report.

1. Elland Road
2. 'Commercial Development Site'
3. Old Matthew Murray

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Leeds Everywhere
1 of the proposed sites for the new training complex on the former Matthew Murray High School grounds, currently owned by the council. #lufc


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Simon O'Rouke

Check Radrizzani and co out. They're making it look easy. Previous #lufc owners have been self styled "football men", yet Radrizzani struts in and puts them to shame in his first attempt at club ownership (thus far).

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ANGUS KINNNEAR ON LEEDS CITY COUNCIL REPORT

Following the release of a report from Leeds City Council recommending formal discussions with the Club regarding the development of a new training centre, academy and community sports village at Elland Road, Leeds United Managing Director Angus Kinnear has spoken about how important it is for the Whites to be at the heart of our local community.

Kinnear said: “We thank Leeds City Council for their consideration, we have an ambitious vision for Elland Road and the surrounding area as a centre for elite development and a thriving community sports hub.

"Our Partners at the local Council fully understand the extent of the impact a successful Leeds United can have on our city and that any progress we make will be done so in consultation with the local community.”

The topic is set to be discussed by senior councillors next week and approval of the recommendations in the report will lead to the Council and the Club opening talks regarding the former Matthew Murray High School site in south Leeds as well as the Fullerton Car Park at Elland Road.

Planer om å flytte treningsanlegget passer bedre i denne tråden, Promo.

Quote from: Jon R on October 10, 2017, 23:51:23
Planer om å flytte treningsanlegget passer bedre i denne tråden, Promo.

Enig!

Det beste og mest presise avsnittet:

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YEP fortsetter i dag. :)

Leeds United: New facilities are a step closer to home


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An aerial view of Leeds United's training ground at Thorp Arch.

Phil Hay Email Published: 18:00 Wednesday 11 October 2017 1

Thorp Arch was once cast as Leeds United’s forever home: a revolutionary, state-of-the-art concept and the envy of most English clubs. Howard Wilkinson insisted on excellence when he drove the construction of the club’s training ground and established a new standard for coaching facilities.

It occurs, though, that Thorp Arch is approaching its 25th year and, for a variety of reasons, is no longer the benchmark complex it used to be. Training grounds are catching up or have overtaken it, a wall of investment in which Manchester City’s Eastlands development supersedes everything. The proposals put forward on Tuesday by Leeds City Council for the regeneration of land around Elland Road has shades of Eastlands and its executive report is explicit in saying that Leeds are ready to embrace a new city-centre base.

Visionary former Leeds United manager, Howard Wilkinson. Thorp Arch has suffered in the Football League years, denied significant upgrades until GFH installed drainage in 2013 and United chairman Andrea Radrizzani threw money at cosmetic improvements this summer, but the club’s rationale for relocating is more nuanced. According to the council’s report, Leeds see a training base near Wetherby â€" almost 20 miles outside the city â€" as “a barrier” to developing “the best of Leeds’ inner-city young talent” and the cause of a “disconnect between the first team and the community they represent.”

No less significantly, Thorp Arch is a rented facility and has been since 2004 when Leeds, after relegation from the Premier League, raised £4.2m by selling it. By the end of their lease in 2029 the club would be paying over £1m a year to use the complex, owing to a deal which increases their rent annually. The current cost is around £700,000.

The property belongs to Jacob Adler, the Manchester business who sold Elland Road back to Leeds and Radrizzani for £20m in June. Adler relinquished the stadium with reluctance, challenging the legality of Leeds’ buy-back clause, but was powerless to prevent Radrizzani’s purchase. Thorp Arch was previously subject to a buy-back provision but only until 2009 and Leeds’ failure to raise £6m before its expiry tied the hands of future owners. The land is worth significantly more on the open market and Adler is under no obligation to sell. At present Leeds’ academy holds category two status, the second-highest grade under the Premier League’s Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP), and the council’s report states that the cost of leasing Thorp Arch leaves the club “unable to deliver new training facilities to category one status.” Before relocating, Leeds would need to find a way of breaking their binding arrangement with Adler, something which is understood to have been tentatively discussed while Radrizzani was in the process of buying Elland Road. The plush grass of Thorp Arch might look ripe for re-development but the playing fields are protected by Sport England and the council says it would declare the site Green Belt land if United decide to leave.

Two areas in central Leeds have been earmarked for redevelopment: the former site of Matthew Murray High School in Holbeck, which closed in 2006 and has been empty since the school’s demolition, and Fullarton Park next to Elland Road. Fullerton Park served for years as Leeds’ training ground, prior to the opening of Thorp Arch in 1994.

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Fullerton Park car park. United want the Matthew Murray site to house a new training complex for their first-team and academy squads, bringing their youth development scheme up to scratch and creating a “world class, state of the art category 1 facility”. Their stated aim implies that they are planning a long-term commitment to academy football and will avoid following Huddersfield Town or Brentford in disbanding lower age groups. Radrizzani said at the time of his buy-out of former Leeds owner Massimo Cellino in May that he aimed to improve the landscape around the club’s stadium as part of a scheme he called ‘Elland Road 2020’. He admitted then that leaving Thorp Arch might be necessary and council report talks of United establishing “a brand and a business model that can sustain top-eight Premier League finishes for the long term.” Among the intended facilities is a dedicated matchday pitch for their junior sides.

The proposal for Fullerton Park involves the creation of a ‘community sports village’, providing a base for the Leeds United Foundation, United’s charitable arm, and facilities for week-night training. The council wants additional indoor facilities to help “reach across other sporting codes...including rugby as well as providing for local basketball and netball teams.”

Its executive report reflects that in a decade of regeneration in Leeds, United have “been in a state of flux”. The council says the club’s stagnant state has “undoubtedly negatively impacted global awareness for the city, international inward investment for the region and ultimately civic pride.” Leeds for their part believe the Elland Road site is “not fitting of a Premier League stadium” and of no commercial or social use outside of match days. It suits both sides to consider ways to overhaul the area. The project, should it go ahead, is a major undertaking but the council wants to deliver both a new training ground and community sports village by 2020. It is proposing the arrangement of a 99-year lease with Leeds for both facilities.

The report does not touch on the subject of funding and there are other complications. Councillors in the Holbeck ward favour a sale of the Matthew Murray site for private housing. The construction of a training ground there would see Leeds acquire two playing fields from Ingram Road Primary School, though the council insists the school is “supportive” of the plan and “believe there to be benefits to them.”

Concerns have also been raised about parking and transport infrastructure and the report called for a strategy which would “need to be agreed with key stakeholders to include the police, local residents and businesses.” The council’s board will vote next Wednesday, October 18, on whether to approve the recommendations and open formal discussions with United.

Read more at: http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-new-facilities-are-a-step-closer-to-home-1-8799915

Grønt lys fra kommunen  ;D

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/green-light-for-leeds-united-training-ground-and-sports-village-plans-1-8811679


auren

Quote from: auren on October 18, 2017, 20:19:55
Grønt lys fra kommunen  ;D

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/green-light-for-leeds-united-training-ground-and-sports-village-plans-1-8811679

Herlig. :)

Leeds City Council and Leeds United to open talks regarding potential development of new club training ground

A recommendation has been approved that Leeds City Council enter into formal discussions with Leeds United regarding the potential development of a new club training ground in the city.

This follows a report submitted to the council’s executive board, which proposed that future talks be held between both parties regarding the possibility of the club’s official training facilities for senior and academy players being relocated to the currently vacant former Matthew Murray High School site in south Leeds. Also supported by the executive board was a recommendation that further investigations be undertaken regarding the creation of a new ‘Community Sports Village’ at Elland Road’s Fullerton Park site. If a decision is taken subsequently to move forward with these plans, it is proposed that both facilities would, subject to planning permission, open by 2020.

To read a full copy of the executive board report, please see: http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/documents/s166303/Leeds%20United%20Cover%20Report%20091017.pdf

Councillor Richard Lewis, Leeds City Council’s executive member for regeneration, transport and planning, said:

“I am pleased that the executive board has agreed that the council and Leeds United can begin talks around a potential new club training ground being developed on the old Matthew Murray High School site in south Leeds.

“We know from when the club was previously in the Premier League the impact that a successful and thriving Leeds United can have not just in spreading the Leeds brand around the world, but also in boosting the local economy. Just as important is the power that the club has in the city through its grassroots community and engagement work to enthuse, inspire and make a difference, especially to the lives of young people. The development of a Community Sports Village at the Fullerton Park site is a sign of a renewed ambition at the club to play a significant role in the life of the city off the pitch as well as on it â€" and that’s what’s been missing for far too long.

“These moves also tie in with our ambitions to regenerate Beeston and Holbeck, where the council has built high-quality council homes next to Holbeck Moor and brought empty homes back into use on Beeston Hill. This sits aside bringing activity and purpose seven days a week to the wasteland around the stadium through the ice rink, the park and ride and the police headquarters.”

Notes to editors:

The recommendation which was approved by the executive board report is as follows:

‘Agree the principle of the council formally entering into one-to-one negotiations with Leeds United Football Club for the development of new football training facilities at Elland Road and Matthew Murray for use by Leeds United Football Club and Leeds United Foundation.’

For media enquiries, please contact;

Colin Dickinson, Leeds City Council press office (0113) 39 51578

Email: colin.dickinson@leeds.gov.uk

Dean

Did anyone go to the meeting to see what the plan is with the new #lufc academy in Holbeck?


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Phil Hay - Inside Elland Road: Sleep pods show Leeds United will not be caught napping under Marcelo Bielsa

Phil Hay
Published: 15:07 Wednesday 26 September 2018
Leeds United boss Marcelo Bielsa off his bucket.' Picture: Bruce Rollinson
Leeds United boss Marcelo Bielsa off his bucket.' Picture: Bruce Rollinson
Marcelo Bielsa’s homework on Leeds United was so particular that in his earliest meetings with the club’s senior staff he knew as much about their squad as they did themselves.


But aside from Bielsa trawling through 70-plus hours of footage from last season, what surprised the board most was his resourcefulness in acquiring a set of plans for their training ground at Thorp Arch.


Bielsa, many miles away in Argentina, dug up a blueprint of the facilities on offer to him and provided Leeds with hand-drawn sketches of changes which would feature as part of the agreement over his contract as head coach. He visualised sleeping quarters for his players and more comfortable indoor facilities, with relaxing communal areas set aside for first-team use. It was asking too much to fulfil his brief before the start of the English season but work is now underway and by November Leeds hope Bielsa will have the facility he wants.

There was a story a few weeks backs â€" not quite true as it turns out â€" of Bielsa setting up a bed in his office (redefining the meaning of a man taking his work home) but after three months of hotel living he is looking for accommodation on Thorp Arch’s doorstep. His attachment to the complex is what he seeks from his players and what the long hours imposed by him in pre-season were designed to do: create a camaraderie and an environment where, to revisit Pablo Zabaleta’s quote about Manchester City’s Eastlands empire: “I’d rather be here than my house.”

The sleep pods which Leeds are in the process of installing are temporary structures and if the club are breaking any new ground here, it is only by their own standards. Garry Monk used sleeping booths at Swansea City two summers ago. Manchester City’s in-house accommodation is the equivalent of a high-end hotel and good enough for their players to use overnight before home games. Bielsa chooses to hole up his players in an actual hotel pre-match but the beds at Thorp Arch meet the demands for rest and recovery under a head coach who still pushes his squad through regular double sessions.

The intricacy of Eastlands and all Manchester City have created there is an aspiration for Leeds and a motivation for seeking new pastures away from Wetherby. There is, on the face of it, a juxtaposition between the club advancing plans for a new Category One academy while at the same time renovating their existing, rented home but the sleeping quarters are interim designs rather than material changes to the building’s structure. Leeds still anticipate that by 2020, or within the 12 months that follow, they will have vacated Thorp Arch for a multi-million-pound facility less than a mile from Elland Road.

Leeds United Academy at Thorp Arch. Picture: Andrew Varley

The club have been working on that project in the background since last October when Leeds City Council’s executive board approved formal talks over the proposed redevelopment of the old Matthew Murray High School site in Holbeck. United have commissioned artists’ impressions of a state-of-the-art base there and intend to create a site which qualifies for Category One status under the Premier League’s Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP). Thorp Arch sits in Category 2 â€" a ranking with implications for youth development and the retention of academy players â€" and has long since gone past the point where consideration was given to bridging the gap.

United would like construction to begin next year but a new training base, inevitably, is at the mercy of certain factors. Leeds need to secure full funding for a build which is likely to cost in excess of £20m. There are some in Holbeck, including local councillors, who think the Matthew Murray site should be used for private housing and will argue their case. And there is the requirement for a compromise which allows the club to make an early exit from the lease tying them to Thorp Arch, agreed when the property was sold 14 years ago.

However the process plays out, there is no guarantee that Bielsa will be here to see Leeds up sticks and relocate. In club football, he has never completed three straight seasons in the same job. He has a two-year contract and immediate needs and to that end, he is instigating changes resembling the changes he asked for at Lille last year; facilities which mirror his own work ethic and his footballing mind. Open all hours.

It was asking too much to fulfil his brief before the start of the English season but work is now underway and by November Leeds hope Bielsa will have the facility he wants.

Leeds United coach Marcelo Bielsa discusses Thorp Arch changes

Phil Hay
Published: 12:08 Thursday 27 September 2018
Marcelo Bielsa hopes structural changes to Leeds United’s training ground will enhance the performance of his squad after convincing the club to invest in sleeping quarters and other improvements at Thorp Arch.


Bielsa said the installation of new facilities, including rooms for his players to rest in, would aid the mood and recovery of his squad amid ongoing work on Leeds’ facility near Wetherby.

Leeds United head coach Marcelo Bielsa.
Leeds United head coach Marcelo Bielsa.
United are altering the complex following discussions with Bielsa over potential improvements which took place when he and the club were negotiating his appointment as head coach.

Bielsa, who instigated the building of accommodation for his players in his previous job at Lille, wanted more relaxation space for his senior professionals and also asked United to provide beds for them to rest in between training sessions.

A number of Premier League clubs provide those provisions and Leeds expect the renovation of Thorp Arch to finish in November.

Bielsa insisted the changes had not been demanded as part of his deal with Leeds, saying Thorp Arch was already providing “a very good service”, but admitted he had tried to impress on United’s board the importance of matching “the big clubs”.

“I never impose my point of view because we’re here for a short time,” Bielsa said. “All head coaches are in a club for a short time.

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“I just told the club what kind of infrastructures the big clubs have. This club has extraordinary infrastructures. If you see the pitches, they are a miracle.

“I don't want people to think I impose my point of view to the club because that's not the case. I make suggestions and then the club decides if it wants to invest in the infrastructures or not. When I arrived to the club the players were receiving a very good service. I proposed some small changes.

“The club is willing to give additional facilities to the players. When you are a professional footballer you need to rest and you need to be together with your teammates. This belongs to the profession.

“For regular citizens, when you rest, when you live together, when you have activities together it's not a necessity, it's not an obligation. But in professional football it's an obligation. The club has to take into account the fact that players spend a lot of time here.”

United are planning to vacate Thorp Arch in the next two years with plans afoot to build a new £25m complex close to Elland Road.

The club have rented their current base since selling it to a private landlord in 2004 and pay an annual rent of close to £1m. A £6m buy-back clause elapsed in 2009.

Simon Austin

Interesting as ever Phil. This would be the ultimate aim: Tottenham have their own Player Lodge at the training ground. Each player has his own room, with bespoke pillow/ mattress & automatic temperature control trainingground.guru/articles/totte…


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Revealed: official details of Marcelo Bielsa's renovations at Leeds United's training ground

Building work has been continuing apace at Thorp Arch after the head coach made a series of suggestions this summer

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A general view of Thorp Arch, Leeds United's training ground (Image: Joe Mewis)

Building work has been continuing apace at Thorp Arch after the head coach made a series of suggestions this summer

Official details of Marcelo Bielsa’s renovations at Leeds United’s training ground have been revealed by Leeds City Council.

The head coach, who had dormitories installed at Lille’s training ground for players to sleep on site, has called for an extensive programme of renovations at Thorp Arch.

Among the series of modifications being made at the training base is the erection of a two-storey modular building in the existing car park.

Any Thorp Arch visitor will have seen this building is already in place, but the plans reveal the exact make-up of its interior and how it may be used.

Exterior view of the two-storey modular building erected at Thorp Arch in 2018
Exterior view of the two-storey modular building erected at Thorp Arch in 2018 (Image: Britcab Ltd)
The ground floor is dominated by two training rooms, with a separate meeting room and toilets.

The largest room on the first floor has been set aside for the club’s coaches, which has two administration offices and a kitchen adjoining.

On the opposite side of the first floor there is a dedicated office for the club’s academy manager Adam Underwood and separate rooms for education and strength and conditioning.

While the modular building forms one part of Bielsa’s proposals, there is expected to be a second, separate planning application for changes within the main building at Thorp Arch.

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First floor plan of two-storey modular building installed at Thorp Arch in 2018 (Image: Britcab Ltd)

Aside from broad information provided by managing director Angus Kinnear last month and a basic acknowledgement from Bielsa, there has been scant, specific detail about the modifications.

In his programme notes ahead of September 22’s clash with Birmingham City, Kinnear said: “An extensive programme of renovations is underway to facilitate Marcelo’s training philosophy.

“These renovations include new buildings to provide the first team and academy with more dedicated facilities and dormitory and clubhouse spaces to make the training ground more like the players’ home than their workplace.”

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Ground floor plan of two-storey modular building installed at Thorp Arch in 2018 (Image: Britcab Ltd)

On September 27, Bielsa told the media: “I never impose my point of view because we are here for a short time.

“All head coaches are in a club for a short time. I just tell the club what kind of infrastructures the big clubs have. This club has extraordinary infrastructures. If you see the pitches, they are a miracle.

“I don't want people to think I impose my point of view to the club, that's not the case. I make suggestions and then the club decides if it wants to invest in the infrastructures or not.

“When I arrived to the club the players were receiving a very good service. I proposed some small changes and then the club decides if it wants to make the changes or not.

“The club is willing to give additional facilities to the players.

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Bird's eye view of where the two-storey modular building has been installed at Thorp Arch (Image: Google Maps)

“When you are a professional footballer you need to rest and you need to be together with your team-mates and this belongs to the profession of being a footballer.”


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Angus Kinnear gives update on Leeds United's Thorp Arch renovation

Leeds United managing director Angus Kinnear has given fans an update on the building work currently under way at their Thorp Arch training facility.

In his column featured within the programme for the game against Nottingham Forest, the former Arsenal and West Ham man said: “The extensive renovation work at Thorp Arch is almost complete and, under the guidance of Marcelo Bielsa and facilities director Mark Broadley, we have created an environment that demands team unity and high performance.”


And it’s not just the builders who are hard at work. Kinnear explained how life at Thorp Arch has changed over the past few months.

“Thorp Arch has almost become a 24-hour operation with coaching taking place in every available daylight hour and Victor and Marcelo’s team of analysts burning the candle at both ends in assessing everything from tactical innovations in an obscure foreign league to statistical anomaly in our opposition report that might unlock the next victory.”


Bielsa in his Thorp Arch office
The renovation work began back in the summer when Bielsa outlined how he felt the Thorp Arch could be improved, after having got hold of a blueprint of the training facility during the drawn out negotiations over his contract.

Last week we reported on the official plans for the renovations released by Leeds City Council which include a new two storey building in the existing car park which incorporates training rooms, a meeting room and toilets, as well as areas for education and strength and conditioning.


The new building has sprung up at a rapid pace with the external structure looking almost complete at the start of October and Kinnear reports it’s now ‘almost complete’.


Bird's eye view of where the two-storey modular building has been installed at Thorp Arch(Image: Google Maps)
The idea behind the changes is to create separation between the first team and the academy teams. In September, Bielsa told the media: “When you are a professional footballer you need to rest and you need to be together with your team-mates and this belongs to the profession of being a footballer.”

Longer-term, the club are still looking to move their training base back into the city centre, with a site in Holbeck mooted for a new facility.

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Leeds United first team training pitch looking superb after last week's application of ProTurf 20-0-7 +3CaO +3MgO. Huge credit to @Sjonesselby and the team.

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Leeds United first team training pitch looking superb after last week's application of ProTurf 20-0-7 +3CaO +3MgO. Huge credit to @Sjonesselby and the team.

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Dette bildet symboliserer godt det nye regimet i klubben vår mener jeg. Betydningen av facsiliteter er neppe ubetydelig hvis vi skal tiltrekke oss spillere fra øverste hylle! Dette var salderingsposter som ble skåret ned til beinet, i den grad at garderobeforholdene var helsefarlige og spillerne måtte smøre lunsjpakka sjøl under Cellino. Ikke rart at vår nåværende eier har prioritert å bruke store summer på å gjenoppbygge til akseptabel standard. Dette er viktige forhold når man skal evaluere det store bildet etter Radrizzanis 2 første år.

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Statement on supporter investment from LFU

07 Jul 2019

In December last year, Leeds United and supporter group Leeds Fans Utd announced that they had agreed heads of terms to allow supporters to invest in the club.

This investment will kick-start plans to build a new training facility and sports village at Elland Road, and will secure a new class of shares ensuring that supporters who commit will have a voice in key heritage decisions.

The plans for the new training facility will be now announced during the club’s centenary year which is later than envisaged.

Given this delay to the launch, LFU has decided to allow any of its shareholders who wish to leave the society this summer the opportunity to do so.

Leeds United chief executive Angus Kinnear said: “The timing on announcing our plans on a world class training facility and community sports hub around Elland Road will be later in our centenary year than anticipated.

“We are working hard with Leeds City Council to realise our vision and mark our hundredth year with an ambitious project that will leave a meaningful legacy well into our next hundred years.”

The Heads of Terms that LFU signed with Leeds United state that shareholders who are part of LFU when the scheme is launched will get at least 100% value for their original investment plus additional benefits of being an initial member.

Those members who choose to remain now will still be able to ask for 90% value of their original investment back when the full conditions upon which the new class of shares can be acquired are announced, should they decide when in full possession of fact that they do not wish to remain a member of LFU and invest in Leeds United.

The process for those who want to cancel their LFU membership will be published here within the next seven days.

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Leeds United's new training ground may not yet mean the end for Thorp Arch - Leeds Live

Life may yet be in the old dog yet when the time comes for Leeds United to depart Thorp Arch for pastures new in the coming years.

The Whites are edging closer to an agreement with Leeds City Council over plans for a new training ground within the vicinity of Elland Road.

As and when that dream becomes a reality a question mark will hover over their current home between Wetherby and Boston Spa, a state of the art complex which continues to receive investment under head coach Marcelo Bielsa.

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However, speaking to fans at an event in Perth, Australia on Monday, executive director Paul Bell hinted the facility still had a future with the club.

“It’s been well documented we are looking at potential options around Elland Road for development, working in conjunction with the council,” he said.

“We’re now looking at alternative plans for Thorp Arch, whether we can do something slightly different there on an educational basis, but the long-term plan, ideally, would be to move from Thorp Arch down towards Elland Road.”

He added: “Not shutting it down, we might have a different use for it now. We’re just considering something slightly different for it.

“The original plan was to move lock, stock and barrel, but that plan’s now evolved.”

Bell was also quizzed on the latest situation with Kalvin Phillips, who has been linked with Aston Villa in the media.

However, Bell deferred to better placed colleagues, who will also face fans, but later in the week in Australia.

“I’m not the best person to ask that. Victor [Orta, director of football] and Angus [Kinnear, managing director] will be here on Wednesday. I don’t get involved in the football side, in terms of transfers,” he said.

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“Clearly, I’m aware of all the interest in the paper and as Tony [Dorigo]’s rightly said, he’s been fantastic for us as a player over the last season.

“I think, personally, one of the most improved players alongside Liam [Cooper] over this last year.”

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