BREAKING: We are delighted to confirm the appointment of Steve Thompson as the new assistant head coach. #lufc http://t.co/QmPiKhx4F6
På tide
Noen som vet hva han står for? Er han flink til å tette forsvar ?????
Kommer fra Huddersfield, så sannsynligvis ikke...
Thompson takes "giant" step to wake Leeds from their slumbers
Neil Redfearn says Steve Thompson was his first choice for the assistant's job
First published 3 hours ago in Leeds
by Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
LEEDS are the “biggest sleeping giant in footballâ€, according to new number two SteveThompson.
The former Huddersfield coach will join Neil Redfearn in the dug-out for the first time at Nottingham Forest on Saturday. His contract is until the end of the season with an option for next term.
Thompson said: “Leeds are the original sleeping giant.
“People mention it about other clubs and all that but this is the one with the support.
“They get fantastic support, you’ve got a chairman that is hopefully going to back us and we’ve got these young lads coming through as well.
“We want the players to make life-changing money and hopefully it’s with Leeds.
“When someone wants you â€" and it’s Leeds United â€" it’s just a great opportunity to work for this fantastic club.â€
Thompson was with Blackpool when they went up to the Premier League and Redfearn, who confirmed he was “always his number one choice†for the role, said: “He knows how to get promoted and how to do it out of this division."
Redfearn has also spoken to Massimo Cellino about January transfer targets, even though the club are currently under a Football League embargo.
Stephen Warnock has trained this week and should be okay for the trip to the City Ground. But there are major doubts with Rodolph Austin and Giuseppe Bellusci.
Leeds have won only once away from home this season â€" a 3-1 success at high-flying Bournemouth back in mid-September.
Redfearn, whose side suffered a disappointing 1-0 home defeat against Fulham last weekend, said: “In football you’ve got to move on to the next game.
“You’ve got to make sure you go and give a good account of yourselves and get a result. It’s what we’ve been working on all week.â€
Following a run on six games without a win on the road, Redfearn admits he may look to alter the way his team’s formation away from home, starting with the visit to ninth-placed Forest.
“They’re a good side, they had a great start to the season,†he said.
“They were running away with it at one point and then they had a bit of a blip.
“But the potential is there for them to go on a run.
“We’ve been working on one or two different things during the week â€" how we’re going to look and what we’re going to do â€" but I still want to have our DNA in it.
“It’s still got to have the way that we play in it. The lads have taken to it during the week and have looked quite bright in what we’re doing.
“We’ve got a good game to look forward to on Saturday against Forest, they’re a good side. It’s a big club and it’s a real opportunity to try and put our away form right.â€
Ny caretaker-manager før vi runder 2015?
:)
Thompson var med mot Forest i dag. Hva var nytt rent taktisk, og hadde Thompson en finger med i dette??
-Sharp spilte. Han gjør nok en bedre jobb bakover enn Doukara.
-Langsomt finspill bakover og på tvers var fraværende i dag. Noe mer direkte angrpsspill og lange baller preget kampen.
-Rutine: Morison og Tonge kom inn for å berge ett poeng. Sharp startet 8)
Denne karen har gått under radaren. Resultatene er blitt merkbart bedre etter at han entret klubben.
Kan det være en medvirkende årsak til at vi er i bedring?
Quote from: Kato on February 02, 2015, 13:37:53
Denne karen har gått under radaren. Resultatene er blitt merkbart bedre etter at han entret klubben.
Kan det være en medvirkende årsak til at vi er i bedring?
Jeg har lenge tenkt tanken, å underbygge det med 'facts' er verre :)
(bortsett fra upsurge i resultatene, da) :)
Quote from: Kato on February 02, 2015, 13:37:53
Denne karen har gått under radaren. Resultatene er blitt merkbart bedre etter at han entret klubben.
Kan det være en medvirkende årsak til at vi er i bedring?
Virker tryggere defensivt ivertfall. Har vel noe med formasjonen å gjøre. Nå får backene mer støtte bakover.
Kan umulig være en ulempe å ha mer enn en mann i trenerapparatet. :-)
Ikke overraskende at Leeds har en oppsving av resultater etter at Thompson har kommet inn som assisterende headcoach. Den defensive organiseringen er blitt bedre og ikke minst at noen enkeltspillere har kommet frem fra skyggen.
Fra YEP:
"Murphy has plenty of quiet admirers â€" not least Steve Thompson, Redfearn’s assistant â€" and has done from the start."
Videre ser vi bra arbeid av såvel Morison som Wooton.
De går godt tospann både Redfearn og Thompson. :)
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Quote from: Leedsfan on February 14, 2015, 15:27:29
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Dette liker vi!
Litt mer om perioden Redfearn styrte businessen alene, om Murphy og samarbeidet mellom Referanse og Thompson.
Leeds United: Thompson’s input proving invaluable
Steve Thompson
Updated on the
20 February
2015
09:07
Published 20/02/2015 06:10
A training ground tete-a-tete between Luke Murphy and Steve Thompson seems to have been the catalyst for a transformation in fortunes for a player almost at the end of his tether. Phil Hay reports.
The development league game between Leeds United and Sheffield United three days before Christmas was not staged for Luke Murphy’s benefit. More heed was given to Brian Montenegro, the scorer of two goals in a 4-1 win.
The only observer who took an interest in Murphy’s involvement, or one of the few, was Steve Thompson. Newly installed as assistant to Leeds head coach Neil Redfearn, Thompson collared Murphy at full-time, walked him round the pitch and asked him where it all went wrong.
The answers he received are staying between them but Thompson caught the midfielder “on a downerâ€; deflated by the realisation that his £1million transfer to Leeds from Crewe Alexandra had been so unsuccessful it had virtually failed. At that stage Murphy was estranged from the first team and training with the Under-21s.
Thompson sympathised with everyone concerned. He sympathised with a player he rated and with a head coach in Redfearn who, in the weeks before Leeds brought Thompson on board, was trying to single-handedly manage a squad of 30-plus. Redfearn told several seniors to work with the development squad because there were too many of them.
“Neil on his own can’t look after 30 or 40 players,†Thompson said. “How he did that and how he held the fort, I don’t know. I’m another pair of eyes and having been a midfielder myself, Murphy looked similar to me â€" a ball player with an eye for goal.
“When I first came he was nowhere near the first team. I saw him in an Under-21 game. He’s a player I’ve always liked so I asked him ‘what’s gone wrong?’ We had a good chat, a little walk around the pitch and I tried to put some confidence back in him.
“He wasn’t enjoying it here. He wasn’t in or even around the first team and he said things to me that I won’t tell you but he needed an arm around him, a bit of confidence and a bit of belief. We gave him the responsibility and threw him in at Sunderland. Well, not threw him in. That’s the wrong way to put it. He’d earned the right to play again. And since then he’s grown into himself.â€
Murphy’s transformation in the space of two months has been astounding; from the fringes of the transfer list to the centre of Redfearn’s midfield. Speaking to the club’s official programme last weekend, the 25-year-old said his recall for United’s FA Cup tie at Sunderland was “a surprise†and “unexpectedâ€.
He spoke honestly about the demoralising effect of training with United’s development players â€" “with no disrespect, it wasn’t where I wanted to be†â€" and said Thompson’s influence was “first class.†In return for his effort, Thompson has received messages of thanks direct from Murphy’s family.
The input, nonetheless, has been two-way. With Murphy in their line-up, Leeds have taken 14 points from their last seven league games; promotion form were the Championship season not so far advanced. The club travel to league leaders Middlesbrough tomorrow with a relaxed spring in their step.
Murphy looks more content too. The past two months have freed him of the albatross created by his £1m transfer fee. Both Redfearn and Thompson agree that his price was a hindrance, primarily because of the attention is caused.
“The lad can’t dictate what money people pay for him,†Thompson said, “but they put a £1m tag on him for a reason â€" because he’s a good player.
“Sometimes it takes time to get going and if you’re not in the team or not doing well, the fans get on your back but Murph’s risen above that. Players show their disappointment in various ways. Some of them can be complex. But the way he’s handled himself has been fantastic.
“He’s one of these players who always wants the ball and when he’s on the ball, he can make us play. The good thing is that I still think there’s a lot more to come from him. He’s well capable of playing in the Premier League, and so are others in the team. I mean that.â€
It is acknowledged by more people than Murphy that Thompson’s presence at Thorp Arch has made a difference. Redfearn cut a lonely figure in the seven weeks it took Leeds to prise Thompson away from his previous coaching role at Huddersfield Town, left to work without an assistant, but the pair have known each other for years, going back to their days as youth-team players at Bolton Wanderers in the early 1980s.
“Being two midfielders who played together, I know what Neil’s weaknesses are,†Thompson joked. “But me being here means there’s another opinion, another man at the coalface.
“It’s got to be hard when you go back into your office after training with no-one to speak to. I’d like to think I’ve been a big help to Neil. We’re a good team, put it that way, and we all want the same thing. We trust each other. I don’t think you’ll get a harder-working pair.â€
By the end of Thompson’s second week in the job, Leeds were in grave trouble; beaten away at Derby County and a point above the Championship relegation places. It was then that Redfearn decided to abandon his diamond midfield and take on a formation which allowed room for Murphy and gave an equally rare opportunity to Steve Morison up front.
“Back then we knew where we needed work and we knew what our problems were,†Thompson said. “We shored the team up and gradually we got a system that suits us. People went on about the diamond but you play a system which suits. At the same time, you have to realise that teams will watch you and try to stop you playing so you also need a plan B.
“We’ve got a happy balance at the moment without being the finished article and what we want is the players to get out and express themselves. If you make a mistake, so what? As long as we see a reaction that’s okay. We can work on things they’re not good at but we like to play football in a certain way. Our system’s showing that.â€
Leeds, in Thompson’s view, have “nothing to fear†about other clubs in the Championship. They might think that they have little to fear about Middlesbrough. United beat Boro at Elland Road on the second weekend of the season and have already accounted for two others league leaders â€" Derby County and Bournemouth twice. Were Thompson a betting man, and if the rules allowed it, he might be tempted by Leeds at odds of 6/1.
“We need to stay in the game first and foremost and then look for the goals we’ve got in our team,†he said.
“You respect every team and you take nothing for granted but the players should know now that if we play well, we’ve nothing to fear from anyone. We can match anyone on our day and no-one’s going to walk away with this division. That’s obvious now.â€
Har vi skutt gullfuglen med Thompson?
Quote from: Jon R on February 20, 2015, 12:46:15
Har vi skutt gullfuglen med Thompson?
Mulig det, men jeg lurer på hvorfor man i Leeds ikke bruker en idrettspsykolog som kan følge opp spillerne. Er det feigt, er det juks eller er det mangel på toppidrettskompetanse?
En Thompson kan vel bare bli en halvstudert røver, mens ekspertisen er en mangelvare. Tror man fortsatt på fysioens varme hender og "a halftime cuppa" som rimelige løsninger.
Hvor er det blitt av:
- klubblegen
- klubbpresten (eller imamen)
- idrettspsykologen
- det dyktige medisinske apparatet (vi har vært bekymret for oppfølgingen av Doukara og Walters i kamper)
...som man alltid hadde med seg før?
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on February 20, 2015, 15:04:03
Quote from: Jon R on February 20, 2015, 12:46:15
Har vi skutt gullfuglen med Thompson?
Mulig det, men jeg lurer på hvorfor man i Leeds ikke bruker en idrettspsykolog som kan følge opp spillerne. Er det feigt, er det juks eller er det mangel på toppidrettskompetanse?
En Thompson kan vel bare bli en halvstudert røver, mens ekspertisen er en mangelvare. Tror man fortsatt på fysioens varme hender og "a halftime cuppa" som rimelige løsninger.
Hvor er det blitt av:
- klubblegen
- klubbpresten (eller imamen)
- idrettspsykologen
- det dyktige medisinske apparatet (vi har vært bekymret for oppfølgingen av Doukara og Walters i kamper)
...som man alltid hadde med seg før?
Jeg har ikke noen stor innsikt i hvordan det så ut tidligere men mitt inntrykk fra i sommer er at det er nettopp den "gjengen" du beskriver der som langt på vei ble barbert vekk av MC i sommer.
Får faktisk lettere positive frysninger av og lese innleggene i denne tråden. MOT
Quote from: Jon R on February 20, 2015, 15:15:42
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on February 20, 2015, 15:04:03
Quote from: Jon R on February 20, 2015, 12:46:15
Har vi skutt gullfuglen med Thompson?
Mulig det, men jeg lurer på hvorfor man i Leeds ikke bruker en idrettspsykolog som kan følge opp spillerne. Er det feigt, er det juks eller er det mangel på toppidrettskompetanse?
En Thompson kan vel bare bli en halvstudert røver, mens ekspertisen er en mangelvare. Tror man fortsatt på fysioens varme hender og "a halftime cuppa" som rimelige løsninger.
Hvor er det blitt av:
- klubblegen
- klubbpresten (eller imamen)
- idrettspsykologen
- det dyktige medisinske apparatet (vi har vært bekymret for oppfølgingen av Doukara og Walters i kamper)
...som man alltid hadde med seg før?
Jeg har ikke noen stor innsikt i hvordan det så ut tidligere men mitt inntrykk fra i sommer er at det er nettopp den "gjengen" du beskriver der som langt på vei ble barbert vekk av MC i sommer.
Den sportslige ekspertisen i Leeds har ikke vært spesielt imponerende så lenge jeg har vært supporter, har vel ikke inntrykk av at de under har vært noen eksperter på sitt felt.
Husker han som var med å designet Torp Arch og var fysio i Leeds ble hentet av Mourinho når Leeds gikk ned i 2004.
Leeds har vel ikke på noe tid sett ut som en klubb som vektlegger spillerlogistikk, fysisk utvikling og analyse. Mulig det er verre nå enn det har vært tidligere, men det ser marginalt ut.
Håper at klubben kan utvikle seg og komme i forkant på noen områder etter hvert. Spesielt i forhold til Championship
- klubblegen
- klubbpresten (eller imamen)
- idrettspsykologen
- det dyktige medisinske apparatet (vi har vært bekymret for oppfølgingen av Doukara og Walters i kamper)
Quote from: Runar on February 20, 2015, 15:50:59
Quote from: Jon R on February 20, 2015, 15:15:42
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on February 20, 2015, 15:04:03
Quote from: Jon R on February 20, 2015, 12:46:15
Har vi skutt gullfuglen med Thompson?
Mulig det, men jeg lurer på hvorfor man i Leeds ikke bruker en idrettspsykolog som kan følge opp spillerne. Er det feigt, er det juks eller er det mangel på toppidrettskompetanse?
En Thompson kan vel bare bli en halvstudert røver, mens ekspertisen er en mangelvare. Tror man fortsatt på fysioens varme hender og "a halftime cuppa" som rimelige løsninger.
Hvor er det blitt av:
- klubblegen
- klubbpresten (eller imamen)
- idrettspsykologen
- det dyktige medisinske apparatet (vi har vært bekymret for oppfølgingen av Doukara og Walters i kamper)
...som man alltid hadde med seg før?
Jeg har ikke noen stor innsikt i hvordan det så ut tidligere men mitt inntrykk fra i sommer er at det er nettopp den "gjengen" du beskriver der som langt på vei ble barbert vekk av MC i sommer.
Den sportslige ekspertisen i Leeds har ikke vært spesielt imponerende så lenge jeg har vært supporter, har vel ikke inntrykk av at de under har vært noen eksperter på sitt felt.
Husker han som var med å designet Torp Arch og var fysio i Leeds ble hentet av Mourinho når Leeds gikk ned i 2004.
Leeds har vel ikke på noe tid sett ut som en klubb som vektlegger spillerlogistikk, fysisk utvikling og analyse. Mulig det er verre nå enn det har vært tidligere, men det ser marginalt ut.
Håper at klubben kan utvikle seg og komme i forkant på noen områder etter hvert. Spesielt i forhold til Championship
- klubblegen
- klubbpresten (eller imamen)
- idrettspsykologen
- det dyktige medisinske apparatet (vi har vært bekymret for oppfølgingen av Doukara og Walters i kamper)
Føyer gjerne til på listen din.. En analyseavdeling som kan fungere som:
- R&D / Moneyball / En slags førstelinje i speideravdelingen. FM-db'en er jo fritt tilgjengelig...
- Taktisk- og kampanalyse
- Treningsanalyse
EDIT: Fantastisk lesing om Thompson. Positive frysninger ja.
Understand that #lufc assistant Steve Thompson has been suspended this morning. Have asked him and the club to comment.
Being told that in a letter, Thompson was told he's being suspended until the end of the season and option to retain him won't be taking up.
Hva pokker er det som skjer i klubben. Da er dagene over for Thompson i Leeds.
Leeds United have suspended assistant manager Steve Thompson, it is understood.
Neil Redfearn’s number two was effectively removed from his role this morning amid signs of fresh unrest at Elland Road.
The former Blackpool coach has been in post for just 19 games but his future and that of Leeds’ head coach Redfearn have been the subject of heavy speculation recently.
Both men held contracts running to the end of this season and were awaiting offers of new deals.
Thompson is understood to have been told that the club do not plan to take up an option to renew his contract in the summer.
Redfearn remains in a job having taken training at Thorp Arch this morning.
Neither Leeds nor Thompson have responded to requests for comment but Redfearn is due to hold his weekly press conference later this afternoon.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-assistant-manager-thompson-suspended-1-7190293
https://audioboom.com/boos/3048288-radio-yorkshires-lufc-commentator-mark-wilson-on-assistant-head-coach-steve-thompson-s-suspension
Quote from: Rudi G. on April 02, 2015, 14:30:23
Leeds United have suspended assistant manager Steve Thompson, it is understood.
Neil Redfearn’s number two was effectively removed from his role this morning amid signs of fresh unrest at Elland Road.
The former Blackpool coach has been in post for just 19 games but his future and that of Leeds’ head coach Redfearn have been the subject of heavy speculation recently.
Both men held contracts running to the end of this season and were awaiting offers of new deals.
Thompson is understood to have been told that the club do not plan to take up an option to renew his contract in the summer.
Redfearn remains in a job having taken training at Thorp Arch this morning.
Neither Leeds nor Thompson have responded to requests for comment but Redfearn is due to hold his weekly press conference later this afternoon.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-assistant-manager-thompson-suspended-1-7190293
https://audioboom.com/boos/3048288-radio-yorkshires-lufc-commentator-mark-wilson-on-assistant-head-coach-steve-thompson-s-suspension
Fy f... For en Sirkusklubb, og direktøren' selv sitter antagelig i Miami og spiller Bingo med trenere, coach og spillere som brikker og nummere.....
Her blir det full Balluba igjen, utrolig at det aldri blir ro og orden i klubben vår- men med en eier som i dag så kan vi vel ikke forvente annet.... ??? ::)
Quote from: Cherry on April 02, 2015, 15:51:49
Quote from: Rudi G. on April 02, 2015, 14:30:23
Leeds United have suspended assistant manager Steve Thompson, it is understood.
Neil Redfearn’s number two was effectively removed from his role this morning amid signs of fresh unrest at Elland Road.
The former Blackpool coach has been in post for just 19 games but his future and that of Leeds’ head coach Redfearn have been the subject of heavy speculation recently.
Both men held contracts running to the end of this season and were awaiting offers of new deals.
Thompson is understood to have been told that the club do not plan to take up an option to renew his contract in the summer.
Redfearn remains in a job having taken training at Thorp Arch this morning.
Neither Leeds nor Thompson have responded to requests for comment but Redfearn is due to hold his weekly press conference later this afternoon.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-assistant-manager-thompson-suspended-1-7190293
https://audioboom.com/boos/3048288-radio-yorkshires-lufc-commentator-mark-wilson-on-assistant-head-coach-steve-thompson-s-suspension
Fy f... For en Sirkusklubb, og direktøren' selv sitter antagelig i Miami og spiller Bingo med trenere, coach og spillere som brikker og nummere.....
Her blir det full Balluba igjen, utrolig at det aldri blir ro og orden i klubben vår- men med en eier som i dag så kan vi vel ikke forvente annet.... ??? ::)
Hvis Redfearn er fornuftig. Ja da sier han opp jobben
Så dette på Facebook og håpet det var en link til i går - altså en aprilspøk. Dessverre er hver dag med denne klubben en aprilspøk… huff!
auren, oppgitt for n-te gang...
Er det slutt for oss nå? Kan vi komme ut av hva enn vi ender opp i igjen nå? Lenge siden jeg har blitt utslått av en Leedsnyhet. Men hva med ordet suspendert? Hva menes med det?
Quote from: Blank_File on April 02, 2015, 16:35:16
Er det slutt for oss nå? Kan vi komme ut av hva enn vi ender opp i igjen nå? Lenge siden jeg har blitt utslått av en Leedsnyhet. Men hva med ordet suspendert? Hva menes med det?
Sparken
Ikke mye info fra klubben.
The Director of Football, Nicola Salerno, has today (April 2) suspended the assistant coach Steve Thompson from his duties at the club.
This is an internal matter and the club will make no further comment on this internal issue. - See more at: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/5rw3phfabb991jiqh3wlq5p54/title/statement-steve-thompson#sthash.CQTdkg68.dpuf
Vi setter oss nok en gang i gapestokken...
Dette er jeg spent på.
Aprilspøk .?
Cellinos døtre?
Blakk?
Underslag?
Har han hatt på seg manutd. drakt?
I lys av siste tiders fremgang og Redders storskryt av samarbeidet og rollefordelingen dem imellom, fremstår dette som en stor gåte.
Hva blir det neste?
Quote from: samadhi on April 02, 2015, 18:16:28
Ikke mye info fra klubben.
The Director of Football, Nicola Salerno, has today (April 2) suspended the assistant coach Steve Thompson from his duties at the club.
This is an internal matter and the club will make no further comment on this internal issue. - See more at: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/5rw3phfabb991jiqh3wlq5p54/title/statement-steve-thompson#sthash.CQTdkg68.dpuf
Vi setter oss nok en gang i gapestokken...
finns ju möjlighet för thomson att rentvå sig om han blivit suspenderat oskyldigt
Quote from: gulle on April 02, 2015, 19:07:07
Dette er jeg spent på.
Aprilspøk .?
Cellinos døtre?
Blakk?
Underslag?
Har han hatt på seg manutd. drakt?
I lys av siste tiders fremgang og Redders storskryt av samarbeidet og rollefordelingen dem imellom, fremstår dette som en stor gåte.
Hva blir det neste?
Fremgang og samarbeid må jo ikke forekomme, kaos må råde. Er Cellino ute på permisjon eller?? :( :(. Tror vi skal være veldig fornøyd over poengene vi har sanket siste tiden for nå kommer kaos.
Suspendert ut sesongen og ikke fornyet kontrakt etter det.
Enten er det en reell sak (brudd på regler) eller så er dette taktikkeri og et påskudd for å få Redfearn til å slutte frivillig, tror jeg. De fleste vet at disse to er Knoll og Tott (forlovere i bryllup og tidl. lagkamerater).
???
Hva har Cellino og Salerno i kikkerten? Er de redd for å miste stortalentet Adryan som nå er ute i kulden? Er Poyet aktuell som coach? Er man ikke fornøyd med Redfearn/Thompson? ???
Få Redfearn til å slutte frivillig? Han har jo bare kontrakt ut sesongen.
Regner med at Salerno har gitt ordre om at Ante ikke skal spille/score, Thompson har svart "bollocks" og har nå fått sparken for å trosse/vært illojal!
Er jo ingen annen fornuftig forklaring på dette og tidspunktet det skjedde på!
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Quote from: Leedsfan on April 02, 2015, 22:12:14
Få Redfearn til å slutte frivillig? Han har jo bare kontrakt ut sesongen.
Regner med at Salerno har gitt ordre om at Ante ikke skal spille/score, Thompson har svart "bollocks" og har nå fått sparken for å trosse/vært illojal!
Er jo ingen annen fornuftig forklaring på dette og tidspunktet det skjedde på!
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Fordelen for Redfern i å slutte nå. Ja det er det at det at han da vl signalisere overfor alle klubber at han er ledig på markedet. Hvis f.eks Blackpool spaker manageren sin nå. Ja da er veien kort for Redfearn til ny stilling. Hvis han venter. Ja da er han teknisk sett ikke ledig på markedet før kontrakten går ut
Det var selvfølgelig for mye forlangt at det skylle være et halvår med en viss stabilitet i klubben. Redfearn tar vel hatten sin og går. Hvis ikke Cellino/Salerno kommer opp med en veldig god grunn for denne situasjonen møter de garantert fansens vrede. Ting har skjedd så brått at det er lov å håpe at det er noe ekstraordinært som har skjedd, men jeg frykter at dette er mafiaboss-idioti.
Quote from: h.b on April 02, 2015, 22:21:44
Quote from: Leedsfan on April 02, 2015, 22:12:14
Få Redfearn til å slutte frivillig? Han har jo bare kontrakt ut sesongen.
Regner med at Salerno har gitt ordre om at Ante ikke skal spille/score, Thompson har svart "bollocks" og har nå fått sparken for å trosse/vært illojal!
Er jo ingen annen fornuftig forklaring på dette og tidspunktet det skjedde på!
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Fordelen for Redfern i å slutte nå. Ja det er det at det at han da vl signalisere overfor alle klubber at han er ledig på markedet. Hvis f.eks Blackpool spaker manageren sin nå. Ja da er veien kort for Redfearn til ny stilling. Hvis han venter. Ja da er han teknisk sett ikke ledig på markedet før kontrakten går ut
Alle vet at Redfearn har et stort hjerte for denne klubben. Jeg er 100% sikker på at han vil ha null problem med å få seg en ny jobb, dersom han må slutte i Leeds etter denne sesongen.
Her synes jeg du bare spekulerer. Dersom han trekker seg , vil det kun være i sympati med sin assistent, og som en protest mot behandlingen av Thompson. Redders har vel heller ikke hatt verdens beste arbeidsforhold.
Det er noe som heter usaklig oppsigelse innen fotballen også. Her må det ligge noe bak som ikke er forenlig med klubb kodeksen. Avventer slakt til vi har fått litt mer innsyn..( og den tid kommer, vær trygg på det..)
Uansett utrolig skuffende. Jeg hadde virkelig trua på Thompson effekten....
Mye snudde da Thompson kom inn. Han var kanskje katalysatoren for endring av formasjon og bruken av spillere.
Italienerne har vært skjøvet mer til side (Antenucci m flere), og Cellino er kanskje forbanna over å bli satt i forlegenhet.
Thompson er vel blitt en maktfaktor de italienske kjeltringene ikke tålte.
Raskt glemt er det vel at de hadde styrt oss rett ned, om de hadde fortsatt som de stevnet.
De her gutta kan ikke engelsk fotball. Prosjekt Cellino has failed
Quote from: Kato on April 03, 2015, 08:12:46
Mye snudde da Thompson kom inn. Han var kanskje katalysatoren for endring av formasjon og bruken av spillere.
Italienerne har vært skjøvet mer til side (Antenucci m flere), og Cellino er kanskje forbanna over å bli satt i forlegenhet.
Thompson er vel blitt en maktfaktor de italienske kjeltringene ikke tålte.
Raskt glemt er det vel at de hadde styrt oss rett ned, om de hadde fortsatt som de stevnet.
De her gutta kan ikke engelsk fotball. Prosjekt Cellino has failed
I YEP står dette også og lese, nemlig at Cellino ikke er fornøyd med at så få av de spillerne han har skaffet til veie - ikke spiller mer enn de gjør. Thompson får " skylden" for dette ift formasjonen vi spiller i.
MEN hva som egentlig tenkes videre virker jo ikke akkurat gjennomtenkt :( >:(
Quote from: Cherry on April 03, 2015, 09:48:14
Quote from: Kato on April 03, 2015, 08:12:46
Mye snudde da Thompson kom inn. Han var kanskje katalysatoren for endring av formasjon og bruken av spillere.
Italienerne har vært skjøvet mer til side (Antenucci m flere), og Cellino er kanskje forbanna over å bli satt i forlegenhet.
Thompson er vel blitt en maktfaktor de italienske kjeltringene ikke tålte.
Raskt glemt er det vel at de hadde styrt oss rett ned, om de hadde fortsatt som de stevnet.
De her gutta kan ikke engelsk fotball. Prosjekt Cellino has failed
I YEP står dette også og lese, nemlig at Cellino ikke er fornøyd med at så få av de spillerne han har skaffet til veie - ikke spiller mer enn de gjør. Thompson får " skylden" for dette ift formasjonen vi spiller i.
MEN hva som egentlig tenkes videre virker jo ikke akkurat gjennomtenkt :( >:(
Dette er jo egentlig fryktelig merkelig. Cellinos spillere og formasjon=nedrykk. Sagt det flere ganger før, Redfearn må få styre det sportslige, ikke en drita full eier.
Får bare takke Redfearn og Thompsons 3 mnd med ulydighet, trist at de da blir belønnet med sparken!
Men nekter egentlig å tro at dette kan være grunnen. Thompson må ha brytet noen interne regler. Eller blir vi styrt av en gjeng amatører? :o flaut...
Det eneste noenlunde stabile med klubben vår er supporterene, men hvor lenge varer det? Er nok en gang lei meg. Er nok engang skuffet. Oppturene og nedturene på fotballbanen som "normale" klubber har kommer i skyggen av det utenomsportslige hos oss som vanlig.
Og i tillegg i kjent Leeds stil så kommer tragediene som lyn fra klar himmel. Helt utrolig.
Quote from: Cherry on April 03, 2015, 09:48:14
Quote from: Kato on April 03, 2015, 08:12:46
Mye snudde da Thompson kom inn. Han var kanskje katalysatoren for endring av formasjon og bruken av spillere.
Italienerne har vært skjøvet mer til side (Antenucci m flere), og Cellino er kanskje forbanna over å bli satt i forlegenhet.
Thompson er vel blitt en maktfaktor de italienske kjeltringene ikke tålte.
Raskt glemt er det vel at de hadde styrt oss rett ned, om de hadde fortsatt som de stevnet.
De her gutta kan ikke engelsk fotball. Prosjekt Cellino has failed
I YEP står dette også og lese, nemlig at Cellino ikke er fornøyd med at så få av de spillerne han har skaffet til veie - ikke spiller mer enn de gjør. Thompson får " skylden" for dette ift formasjonen vi spiller i.
MEN hva som egentlig tenkes videre virker jo ikke akkurat gjennomtenkt :( >:(
Lite trolig forklaring. Da ville det vært logisk å sparke Redfearn, som er ansvarlig for laguttaket.
2-3 italienrere + Berardi spiller jo jevnt og trutt. ???
Eller: Kanskje hensikten er å få Redfearn til å slutte selv og innsette en annen coach som bruker troppen på en annen måte.? Mener ledelsen at Redfearn får lite ut av laget? Har man begynt å tenke på neste sesong nå som plassen for i år er sikret? ???
Quote from: Josch on April 03, 2015, 13:26:28
Quote from: Cherry on April 03, 2015, 09:48:14
Quote from: Kato on April 03, 2015, 08:12:46
Mye snudde da Thompson kom inn. Han var kanskje katalysatoren for endring av formasjon og bruken av spillere.
Italienerne har vært skjøvet mer til side (Antenucci m flere), og Cellino er kanskje forbanna over å bli satt i forlegenhet.
Thompson er vel blitt en maktfaktor de italienske kjeltringene ikke tålte.
Raskt glemt er det vel at de hadde styrt oss rett ned, om de hadde fortsatt som de stevnet.
De her gutta kan ikke engelsk fotball. Prosjekt Cellino has failed
I YEP står dette også og lese, nemlig at Cellino ikke er fornøyd med at så få av de spillerne han har skaffet til veie - ikke spiller mer enn de gjør. Thompson får " skylden" for dette ift formasjonen vi spiller i.
MEN hva som egentlig tenkes videre virker jo ikke akkurat gjennomtenkt :( >:(
Lite trolig forklaring. Da ville det vært logisk å sparke Redfearn, som er ansvarlig for laguttaket.
2-3 italienrere + Berardi spiller jo jevnt og trutt. ???
Eller: Kanskje hensikten er å få Redfearn til å slutte selv og innsette en annen coach som bruker troppen på en annen måte.? Mener ledelsen at Redfearn får lite ut av laget? Har man begynt å tenke på neste sesong nå som plassen for i år er sikret? ???
väldigt mycket spekulationer, vill han få bort Redfearn behöver han inte sparka honom för han har ettårskontrakt och det behövs inte förlängas i så fall,
Og her er grunnen. Redfearn ikke sparket, men Thompson.... fordi Redfearn ikke ville tie om at Ante måtte holdes utenfor laget ut sesongen:
Simon Austin Sport
Friday, 3 April 2015
Leeds United's 'mad Thursday' explained
Not for the first time in Massimo Cellino's Leeds' reign, fans were left scratching their heads yesterday and asking 'what was all that about?'
At the start of the morning, news came through that assistant manager Steve Thompson had been suspended. This was a shock, to say the least.
Thompson had been given a letter, signed by Nicola Salerno, informing him he was suspended (with the word suspended spelt incorrectly) and that his contract, which expires this summer, would not be renewed.
Then, just as Neil Redfearn was about to attend his weekly press conference ahead of the Blackburn game on Saturday (understandably, he had considered cancelling it, before deciding he would front up to discuss a decision he had known nothing about), I wrote this story for The Sun revealing that the manager had been told he was not allowed to pick his top scorer, Mirco Antenucci.
The two stories, combined, gave a feeling of chaos, of a club in disarray. They weren't two random events that just happened to coincide though.
They were linked. And this is why.
Earlier in the week, Redfearn was told by chairman Andrew Umbers, in no uncertain terms, that he was not to select Antenucci because of a clause in his contract triggering an automatic one-year extension should he score 12 goals.
This would mean the striker staying at Elland Road for a further two seasons beyond the current one, as well as receiving a cash bonus.
This incentivised contract was seen as good business when it was agreed, as it would guarantee that the player would be rewarded only if he achieved. It was seen as insurance for the club. Everyone's a winner, or something like that.
Only Antenucci did get very close to reaching the stipulated target, and the club decided it didn't like the incentive any more. Antenucci is already 30; he has done fairly well although not outstandingly well in his first season; and the club's ownership situation is now up in the air.
These incentivised contracts are not unusual in football. And, even though it seems bizarre, this would not be the first time a club has wanted to avoid playing someone about to activate a clause.
But what is rather poor form is the fact that Umbers told Redfearn he could not disclose the real reason for not selecting Antenucci.
This put the manager in a difficult position. It's not hard to see why. Just consider if, at a press conference or in a post-match interview, he was asked why he had not selected the club's top scorer, a striker who had netted in his last two matches.
He would have to lie. And that sat uneasily with an honest man of integrity like Redfearn - one who also has a clause in his contract stating he has full autonomy over team selection.
So this caused tension between Redfearn and Umbers. The manager said he would not go along with what he had been told, and that if he couldn't pick Antenucci, he would at least be honest about the reason, saying it was a board decision.
In response, Umbers told Redfearn he must not do that and there would be consequences should he do so. Was Cellino aware of all this and ultimately behind the decision?
That's a question I could not answer definitively.
Then there was something of a stand-off between Redfearn and the board.
The club was obviously loath to suspend or sack the manager. He has done an excellent job this year, has brought through a fine crop of young homegrown players and is held in high esteem by the club's fans.
So what was the next most severe thing they could do?
Thompson was informed in the letter that he was being suspended because of the way he had been 'carrying out his duties'. But this doesn't wash.
Surely it was Redfearn's place and his alone to decide on the way his assistant was carrying out his duties? And he has always said that he was delighted with what Thompson had done.
And the form of the team, the morale of the team, has been excellent in 2015.
It's hard to escape the conclusion that this was a way of clipping Redfearn's wings, of showing him who was boss, of rebuking him, without taking the ultimate step of targeting him directly.
It's fair to say that Cellino was not sure about Thompson's appointment in the first place and that it took the persistence of chief operating officer Matt Child to push his signing through.
Cellino was always slightly suspicious of him after that as well. Perhaps it was because the Italian thought the appointment impacted on his own relationship with Redfearn and his own involvement in the football side of things, but that's speculation.
For his part, Redfearn has always spoken highly of Cellino, most recently in an interview with the BBC last week.
They genuinely get on and have a rapport. Having spent time with Cellino myself, I can vouch for the fact he can be extremely charismatic and inspirational. When he's in the mood, he can carry people along with his passion and vision.
And that can be powerful. At times like those, you genuinely think Leeds United could be onto big things with him at the helm.
Cellino can also be very astute and perceptive about people, and extremely knowledgeable about football.
But. And there are some serious buts. He can be extremely erratic and irrational. We have seen this when he has sacked people on a whim, in a fit of pique. Or when he has persisted with fights that were probably not worth fighting.
He also has an unfortunate trait of wanting to be the centre of attention and I wonder whether he has enjoyed watching the club's success in 2015 from afar, while he is sat in Miami and not involved on the ground at Elland Road or Thorpe Arch.
At times, he has seemed reminiscent of a child who has had a lavish birthday party laid on, only to find out he is ignored when it takes place.
Simon Austin at 02:59
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Dette er forferdelige nyheter. På mange måter skylder jeg på meg selv. Jeg har en tendens til å jinxe klubben: jeg har vært på fire kamper, alle tap, med ett mål vår vei totalt. Seneste opplevelse var Brighton hjemme (0-2), årets dårligste kamp. Nå har jeg holdt meg unna; ærlig talt var interessen laber, i hvertfall lav nok til at jinxen så en annen vei.
Etter nyttår har interessen blitt større og større, og denne uken, TO TIMER etter jeg hadde kjøpt billetter til Cardiff og Norwich, smeller nyheten om Thompsons tvungne avgang.
Ber jeg om for mye? Jeg føler ærlig talt ikke det. Jeg er ikke den som grunnløst krever at vi skal være best i ligaen neste sesong. Jeg forventer ikke opprykk når vi skifter fjorten spillere hvert år. Jeg ber bare om et par sesonger med ro, fred og sunn lagbygging. Det er visstnok for mye.
Quote from: TK20 on April 03, 2015, 17:20:43
Dette er forferdelige nyheter. På mange måter skylder jeg på meg selv. Jeg har en tendens til å jinxe klubben: jeg har vært på fire kamper, alle tap, med ett mål vår vei totalt. Seneste opplevelse var Brighton hjemme (0-2), årets dårligste kamp. Nå har jeg holdt meg unna; ærlig talt var interessen laber, i hvertfall lav nok til at jinxen så en annen vei.
Etter nyttår har interessen blitt større og større, og denne uken, TO TIMER etter jeg hadde kjøpt billetter til Cardiff og Norwich, smeller nyheten om Thompsons tvungne avgang.
Ber jeg om for mye? Jeg føler ærlig talt ikke det. Jeg er ikke den som grunnløst krever at vi skal være best i ligaen neste sesong. Jeg forventer ikke opprykk når vi skifter fjorten spillere hvert år. Jeg ber bare om et par sesonger med ro, fred og sunn lagbygging. Det er visstnok for mye.
Enig. Dette er helt klart din feil
Hvis det er slik at Thompson har holdt armene rundt Britene og importene har følt seg fryst ut så kan jeg skjønne avgjørelsen, men man må jo få en advarsel først!
Quote from: Leedsfan on April 04, 2015, 13:18:39
Hvis det er slik at Thompson har holdt armene rundt Britene og importene har følt seg fryst ut så kan jeg skjønne avgjørelsen, men man må jo få en advarsel først!
Henger ikke på greip. Andelen import i laget har da steget jevnt og trutt de siste månedene. De som ikke er med er enten skadet eller heter Adryan.
Quote from: Jon R on April 04, 2015, 16:16:39
Quote from: Leedsfan on April 04, 2015, 13:18:39
Hvis det er slik at Thompson har holdt armene rundt Britene og importene har følt seg fryst ut så kan jeg skjønne avgjørelsen, men man må jo få en advarsel først!
Henger ikke på greip. Andelen import i laget har da steget jevnt og trutt de siste månedene. De som ikke er med er enten skadet eller heter Adryan.
Må jo ligge noe her. Adryan hvis han brukes riktig har potensiale til å være best hos oss.. Ante, Doukara, Berardi lite spilletid. Sloth knapt spilt. Cani noen innhopp.
Veldig spent på hva som har og kommer til å skje. Ryktes at Salerno er borte fra klubben også! Kaos... Det står flere ting før opprykk på ønskelista mi!!
Quote from: Eleonora on April 04, 2015, 16:24:40
Quote from: Jon R on April 04, 2015, 16:16:39
Quote from: Leedsfan on April 04, 2015, 13:18:39
Hvis det er slik at Thompson har holdt armene rundt Britene og importene har følt seg fryst ut så kan jeg skjønne avgjørelsen, men man må jo få en advarsel først!
Henger ikke på greip. Andelen import i laget har da steget jevnt og trutt de siste månedene. De som ikke er med er enten skadet eller heter Adryan.
Må jo ligge noe her. Adryan hvis han brukes riktig har potensiale til å være best hos oss.. Ante, Doukara, Berardi lite spilletid. Sloth knapt spilt. Cani noen innhopp.
Veldig spent på hva som har og kommer til å skje. Ryktes at Salerno er borte fra klubben også! Kaos... Det står flere ting før opprykk på ønskelista mi!!
Han brukes riktig nå. Får underprestere på reservelaget.
Quote from: lojosang on April 04, 2015, 16:59:20
Quote from: Eleonora on April 04, 2015, 16:24:40
Quote from: Jon R on April 04, 2015, 16:16:39
Quote from: Leedsfan on April 04, 2015, 13:18:39
Hvis det er slik at Thompson har holdt armene rundt Britene og importene har følt seg fryst ut så kan jeg skjønne avgjørelsen, men man må jo få en advarsel først!
Henger ikke på greip. Andelen import i laget har da steget jevnt og trutt de siste månedene. De som ikke er med er enten skadet eller heter Adryan.
Må jo ligge noe her. Adryan hvis han brukes riktig har potensiale til å være best hos oss.. Ante, Doukara, Berardi lite spilletid. Sloth knapt spilt. Cani noen innhopp.
Veldig spent på hva som har og kommer til å skje. Ryktes at Salerno er borte fra klubben også! Kaos... Det står flere ting før opprykk på ønskelista mi!!
Han brukes riktig nå. Får underprestere på reservelaget.
Kanskje du har rett. Jeg og mange med meg tror han har mye i seg. Jeg lurer ihvertfall veldig på hvorfor han er helt ute i kulden! Potensialet hans er det etter min menig ingen i Leeds i dag som matcher :)
Takk for at du reddet sesongen vår, Thompson! :)
Lykke til videre!
Quote from: Eleonora on April 04, 2015, 16:24:40
Quote from: Jon R on April 04, 2015, 16:16:39
Quote from: Leedsfan on April 04, 2015, 13:18:39
Hvis det er slik at Thompson har holdt armene rundt Britene og importene har følt seg fryst ut så kan jeg skjønne avgjørelsen, men man må jo få en advarsel først!
Henger ikke på greip. Andelen import i laget har da steget jevnt og trutt de siste månedene. De som ikke er med er enten skadet eller heter Adryan.
Må jo ligge noe her. Adryan hvis han brukes riktig har potensiale til å være best hos oss.. Ante, Doukara, Berardi lite spilletid. Sloth knapt spilt. Cani noen innhopp.
Veldig spent på hva som har og kommer til å skje. Ryktes at Salerno er borte fra klubben også! Kaos... Det står flere ting før opprykk på ønskelista mi!!
Berardi har fått mye spilketid. Ante stadig mer. Sloth er skadet. Cani komplett udugelig. Da står vi igjen med Doukara og Adryan. "De britiske" er jo stort sett akademi pluss Murphy, som har vært en av våre beste i 2015.
Det sies at dette er en "Italian Job"! Bamba har sloss med Bellusci som fliret når Thompson fikk sparken. Helten vår Antenucci har visst også vært med på å få han sparket!
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Quote from: Leedsfan on April 04, 2015, 21:08:13
Det sies at dette er en "Italian Job"! Bamba har sloss med Bellusci som fliret når Thompson fikk sparken. Helten vår Antenucci har visst også vært med på å få han sparket!
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Kilde......?
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 04, 2015, 21:14:33
Quote from: Leedsfan on April 04, 2015, 21:08:13
Det sies at dette er en "Italian Job"! Bamba har sloss med Bellusci som fliret når Thompson fikk sparken. Helten vår Antenucci har visst også vært med på å få han sparket!
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Kilde......?
Paul Grimly eller noe sånt på Twitter!
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...og her kommer visst grunnen til at Thompson ble sparket:
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/04/06/cellino-suggests-reason-thompson-was-removed-as-redfearns-assist/
“I’m told Steve Thompson called our sporting director Nicola Salerno an offensive name in front of other people after the game at Fulham,†said Cellino.
“This is unacceptable. The board backed Salerno and I understand this.â€
I så fall ser vi noe av problemet med mange kokker som skal styre sport.
Redfearn og Thompson er ansvarlige for resultatene, mens Salerno er ansvarlig for spillerlogistikk.
Det skal være god samhandling, og god kjemi for å få det til å funke.
Klassisk.
@sport_simon: Steve Thompson has been advised not to comment on his suspension by the League Managers Association
Her er også en annen grunn til uoverensstemmelser mellom Salerno og trenerne:
@sport_simon: Looking in from outside-Cellino needs someone who will say no to him & look beyond cost cutting. Letting Matt Child go was a big mistake IMO
@sport_simon: Since Child went I think there's been a breakdown in communication between coaching team and 'board' and a lot of suspicion
@Jase0909: @sport_simon also seems like the Italian players ate cellino / salernos eyes & ears within the team, creating huge division. It's toxic.
@PhilHayYEP: @sport_simon it was going this way anyway. The relationship between Umbers and Redfearn has always been difficult
Adam Pope:
#lufc Just taking time to reflect on a few comments made about what was allegedly said to Salerno after the 3-0 win at Fulham.
Adam Pope:
#lufc I saw with my own eyes Salerno smiling, like everyone else, & patting the backs of coaching staff & players by the tunnel at Fulham.
Adam Pope:
@PhilHayYEP @MOTForever @FionaCK Not heard anyone step forward & verify allegation that Salerno was disrspected at Fulham. LMA on the case.
Phil Hay:
@MOTForever @FionaCK @APOPEY the letter to Thompson was vague - said the board weren't happy with how he was "carrying out his duties."
Adam Pope:
#lufc That did not look like an environment where something derogatory would be said to a sporting director by a member of staff to me.
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Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 08, 2015, 13:31:08
Adam Pope:
#lufc Just taking time to reflect on a few comments made about what was allegedly said to Salerno after the 3-0 win at Fulham.
Adam Pope:
#lufc I saw with my own eyes Salerno smiling, like everyone else, & patting the backs of coaching staff & players by the tunnel at Fulham.
Adam Pope:
@PhilHayYEP @MOTForever @FionaCK Not heard anyone step forward & verify allegation that Salerno was disrspected at Fulham. LMA on the case.
Phil Hay:
@MOTForever @FionaCK @APOPEY the letter to Thompson was vague - said the board weren't happy with how he was "carrying out his duties."
Adam Pope:
#lufc That did not look like an environment where something derogatory would be said to a sporting director by a member of staff to me.
☺
Dag for dag forvitrer siste rest av troverdighet hos nåværende styre & stell.
@PhilHayYEP: Re: Steve Thompson - Cellino said he'd been told that Thompson "disrespected" Salerno at Fulham. Numerous other people say that's not true.
@PhilHayYEP: Salerno was seen by everyone as a quiet, placid character. The idea of him and Thompson clashing is a peculiar one.
::)
Rapporter i dag tyder på at italienerne i troppen allerede var briefet da nyheten om Thompsons sparking sprakk på TA under trening. Cellino er forbanna fordi trenerteamet har brukt ungt og engelsk - og lykkes med det. I tillegg skal trenerteamet blitt instruert i hvordan spillere skal benyttes eller benkes for å unngå fremtidige bonusutbetalinger.
Det er sånn man bygger team spirit.
Simon Austin:
Cellino claimed Thompson called Salerno a 'retard' after the Fulham game, in earshot of others, and that's the reason he was suspended
Godt vi har litt rykter å forholde oss til.. ::) Regner med alle historiene samlet vil mangedobles over noen pints rundt om i Leeds.
Brød og sirkus! :)
Om ryktene om Thompsons utsagn om "spaghettirytterene" ,er sanne så får jeg bare enda mer sans for fyren. Mulig det han sier er politisk ukorrekt, men for min del så gir jeg blaffen i det.
Quote from: Erik M on April 09, 2015, 01:09:34
Rapporter i dag tyder på at italienerne i troppen allerede var briefet da nyheten om Thompsons sparking sprakk på TA under trening. Cellino er forbanna fordi trenerteamet har brukt ungt og engelsk - og lykkes med det. I tillegg skal trenerteamet blitt instruert i hvordan spillere skal benyttes eller benkes for å unngå fremtidige bonusutbetalinger.
Det er sånn man bygger team spirit.
Spiker på spiker...
Hva er verst?
Kalle en kar som blander seg i alt fra laguttak til innkjøp av serie B-spillere som vi ikke trneger en retard?
ELLER DETTE?
When Thompson and Redfearn arrived for work on Thursday April 2nd, Bellusci and Antenucci were laughing, and the reason soon became clear. Thompson was handed a letter, signed by Nicola Salerno, informing him he had been suspended.
Redfearn later spoke to Antenucci. 'I stuck up for you Mirco and my mate got suspended. Now you're laughing about it.'
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 13, 2015, 12:14:17
Hva er verst?
Kalle en kar som blander seg i alt fra laguttak til innkjøp av serie B-spillere som vi ikke trneger en retard?
ELLER DETTE?
When Thompson and Redfearn arrived for work on Thursday April 2nd, Bellusci and Antenucci were laughing, and the reason soon became clear. Thompson was handed a letter, signed by Nicola Salerno, informing him he had been suspended.
Redfearn later spoke to Antenucci. 'I stuck up for you Mirco and my mate got suspended. Now you're laughing about it.'
sedan får man kanske inte tro på allt som står i bloggar och twitter ;), ibland låter det som värsta skvallret eller eller ännu värre rent utav förtal om det inte stämmer det som skrivs
Ingen røyk uten ild er et gammelt ordtak og ofte er det riktig. Hvis det er snev av sannhet i alt dette råtner vi på rot!!
det är en otroligt liten tröst för den som oskyldigt blir utpekad, nu syftar jag inte enbart på LU, jg personligen är anti både mot skvaller och förtal.
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 13, 2015, 12:14:17
Hva er verst?
Kalle en kar som blander seg i alt fra laguttak til innkjøp av serie B-spillere som vi ikke trneger en retard?
ELLER DETTE?
When Thompson and Redfearn arrived for work on Thursday April 2nd, Bellusci and Antenucci were laughing, and the reason soon became clear. Thompson was handed a letter, signed by Nicola Salerno, informing him he had been suspended.
Redfearn later spoke to Antenucci. 'I stuck up for you Mirco and my mate got suspended. Now you're laughing about it.'
Vanskelig å tro på alle ryktene om hva som har skjedd og ikke.
Finner det veldig merkelig om alt som kommer frem om Antenucci er riktig, da han plutselig har fått fast plass på laget etter de siste tids hendelser.
Antenucci har altså;
1. Gått ut på sosiale media og klaget over lite spilletid (fakta)
2. En klausul som sikret han forlenget kontrakt i 2 år om han scorer 2 mål til (usikkert hvem i klubben som vil ha han med videre. Cellino? Redfearn?)
3. Mer eller mindre frydet seg over at Thompson fikk sparken (kun rykter)
4. Startet de to siste kampene uten mål og uten å imponere.
Dersom det er Redfearn som bestemmer hvem som skal spille så ville jeg trodd at Antenucci ikke hadde sittet på benken en gang utifra disse forutsetningene.
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 20, 2015, 16:31:24
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Forteller det meste. Big mistake å suspendere S.T
Quote from: baste on April 20, 2015, 17:14:57
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 20, 2015, 16:31:24
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Forteller det meste. Big mistake å suspendere S.T
Neppe bare tilfeldigheter nei,burde NR ha vert så tøff i trynet og gitt sin fulle støtte til Steve ved å trua med å gå selv da ST ble suspendert?
Quote from: Woody on April 21, 2015, 13:06:58
Quote from: baste on April 20, 2015, 17:14:57
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 20, 2015, 16:31:24
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Forteller det meste. Big mistake å suspendere S.T
Neppe bare tilfeldigheter nei,burde NR ha vert så tøff i trynet og gitt sin fulle støtte til Steve ved å trua med å gå selv da ST ble suspendert?
Enkelt svar. Ja
Quote from: h.b on April 21, 2015, 13:24:37
Quote from: Woody on April 21, 2015, 13:06:58
Quote from: baste on April 20, 2015, 17:14:57
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 20, 2015, 16:31:24
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Forteller det meste. Big mistake å suspendere S.T
Neppe bare tilfeldigheter nei,burde NR ha vert så tøff i trynet og gitt sin fulle støtte til Steve ved å trua med å gå selv da ST ble suspendert?
Enkelt svar. Ja
Og det er også enkelt å spå hva som da ville skjedd videre.
Quote from: Blank_File on April 21, 2015, 13:36:25
Quote from: h.b on April 21, 2015, 13:24:37
Quote from: Woody on April 21, 2015, 13:06:58
Quote from: baste on April 20, 2015, 17:14:57
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 20, 2015, 16:31:24
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Forteller det meste. Big mistake å suspendere S.T
Neppe bare tilfeldigheter nei,burde NR ha vert så tøff i trynet og gitt sin fulle støtte til Steve ved å trua med å gå selv da ST ble suspendert?
Enkelt svar. Ja
Og det er også enkelt å spå hva som da ville skjedd videre.
Svaret er nok enkelt ja,men skal vi ha nikkedukker eller baller? og hvor langt kommer vi med nikkedukker?
Dermed ikke sagt at NR er det siste. ;)
Quote from: Blank_File on April 21, 2015, 13:36:25
Quote from: h.b on April 21, 2015, 13:24:37
Quote from: Woody on April 21, 2015, 13:06:58
Quote from: baste on April 20, 2015, 17:14:57
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 20, 2015, 16:31:24
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Forteller det meste. Big mistake å suspendere S.T
Neppe bare tilfeldigheter nei,burde NR ha vert så tøff i trynet og gitt sin fulle støtte til Steve ved å trua med å gå selv da ST ble suspendert?
Enkelt svar. Ja
Og det er også enkelt å spå hva som da ville skjedd videre.
Det var ironi regner jeg med..enkelt og spå noe som helst om morgendagen som Leeds Supporter....?
Quote from: Cherry on April 21, 2015, 13:48:32
Quote from: Blank_File on April 21, 2015, 13:36:25
Quote from: h.b on April 21, 2015, 13:24:37
Quote from: Woody on April 21, 2015, 13:06:58
Quote from: baste on April 20, 2015, 17:14:57
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 20, 2015, 16:31:24
Leeds' form since assistant manager Steve Thompson's suspension:
LLLLL
Scored: 5
Conceded: 13
Shambles.
#LUFC http://t.co/5RRLhXkfAo
Forteller det meste. Big mistake å suspendere S.T
Neppe bare tilfeldigheter nei,burde NR ha vert så tøff i trynet og gitt sin fulle støtte til Steve ved å trua med å gå selv da ST ble suspendert?
Enkelt svar. Ja
Og det er også enkelt å spå hva som da ville skjedd videre.
Det var ironi regner jeg med..enkelt og spå noe som helst om morgendagen som Leeds Supporter....?
Nei det var blodig alvor. Konsekvensen ville vært at NR fikk sparken han også. Enkelt og greit.
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on April 09, 2015, 11:42:46
Simon Austin:
Cellino claimed Thompson called Salerno a 'retard' after the Fulham game, in earshot of others, and that's the reason he was suspended
Siden Salerno har hentet 100 nye spillere og 95 % er shit så er jo retard et ganske mildt uttrykk ::)
Kaller du sjefen din for retard er vel konsekvensene ganske åpenbare. Håpløs kultur og holdning.
Quote from: Runar on April 21, 2015, 15:37:00
Kaller du sjefen din for retard er vel konsekvensene ganske åpenbare. Håpløs kultur og holdning.
Det er ikke injurierende hvis det er riktig.
Quote from: Runar on April 21, 2015, 15:37:00
Kaller du sjefen din for retard er vel konsekvensene ganske åpenbare. Håpløs kultur og holdning.
Undres over hvor den kulturen og holdningen kommer fra. ::)
Quote from: Gufrias on April 21, 2015, 16:08:50
Quote from: Runar on April 21, 2015, 15:37:00
Kaller du sjefen din for retard er vel konsekvensene ganske åpenbare. Håpløs kultur og holdning.
Det er ikke injurierende hvis det er riktig.
Og hvis det er riktig,så burde Readfern ha støttet han fullt ut...
Quote from: Jon R on April 21, 2015, 17:38:57
Quote from: Runar on April 21, 2015, 15:37:00
Kaller du sjefen din for retard er vel konsekvensene ganske åpenbare. Håpløs kultur og holdning.
Undres over hvor den kulturen og holdningen kommer fra. ::)
Ja det lurer jeg også veldig på.
@APOPEY: #lufc Andrew Umbers has confirmed to me that he invited suspended assistant Steve Thompson to attend the club's end of season dinner.
@APOPEY: #lufc I have also asked if that invite is an admission by the club that there are no grounds for Thompson's suspension. I await the response
::)
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 07, 2015, 16:12:30
@APOPEY: #lufc Andrew Umbers has confirmed to me that he invited suspended assistant Steve Thompson to attend the club's end of season dinner.
@APOPEY: #lufc I have also asked if that invite is an admission by the club that there are no grounds for Thompson's suspension. I await the response
::)
#HÃ...Ã...Ã...PE :-\ :-\ :-\
Tar bladet fra munnen, men sier ikke noe:
http://www.footballfancast.com/championship/leeds/exclusive-steve-thompson-talks-out-about-his-leeds-suspension
Slettes ikke pent.
“I will have my say on the matter, I have been quiet for two long now but there was no incident. I was suspended for no reason what so ever."
“I got suspended and I am still waiting for the reason why.â€
“It has been very upsetting. I can say with 100% accuracy that I did absolutely nothing wrong.â€
“I won’t be going back. There is no way. Leeds United is a big club, you don’t have to sell anybody the club’s history, but no one treats me like that, especially when I have done nothing.â€
“Thats the disappointing thing for me. If I had done something wrong, I would have held my hand up and walked away but to suspend someone for nothing â€" I don’t work for people like that."
“You cannot work under those circumstances and how things in the dressing room were. There are many things that are not right at that club.â€
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 30, 2015, 08:58:48
Tar bladet fra munnen, men sier ikke noe:
http://www.footballfancast.com/championship/leeds/exclusive-steve-thompson-talks-out-about-his-leeds-suspension
Hva mener du med at han ikke sier noe? Han dementerer at det har vært noen "hendelse", ergo at påstandene om at han har sagt noe ufint om Salerno ikke er riktige. Han vet rett og slett ikke hvorfor han er suspendert. Ikke minst sies det mye mellom linjene her når det gjelder arbeidsforholdene og stemningen i klubben. Det hele står i grell kontrast til klubbens versjon, uten at det kommer som noen bombe. ::)
Her er det nok bare å vente på at saken trekkes inn i rettsalen, og påstander om at Cellino på en eller annen måte har vært involvert i denne affæren mens han har vært suspendert av FL. En ting er jeg sikker på: Engelske tabloider vil ha nok å skrive om så lenge Cellino + Leeds United eksisterer. :P
Personlig synes jeg jo at denne saken er noe vi kunne vært foruten, men jeg stusser jo litt over at han "ikke har gjort noe", han har blitt dårlig behandlet (osv) - men har hverken tatt saken for retten eller gått til pressen med hele historien. Ikke er jeg noen stor jurist, og i hvert fall ikke på britisk lovgivning, men om det er slik han sier må det da stride mot minst en eller annen form for britisk AML?!
Quote from: Jon R on May 30, 2015, 12:38:23
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on May 30, 2015, 08:58:48
Tar bladet fra munnen, men sier ikke noe:
http://www.footballfancast.com/championship/leeds/exclusive-steve-thompson-talks-out-about-his-leeds-suspension
Hva mener du med at han ikke sier noe? Han dementerer at det har vært noen "hendelse", ergo at påstandene om at han har sagt noe ufint om Salerno ikke er riktige. Han vet rett og slett ikke hvorfor han er suspendert. Ikke minst sies det mye mellom linjene her når det gjelder arbeidsforholdene og stemningen i klubben. Det hele står i grell kontrast til klubbens versjon, uten at det kommer som noen bombe. ::)
Her er det nok bare å vente på at saken trekkes inn i rettsalen, og påstander om at Cellino på en eller annen måte har vært involvert i denne affæren mens han har vært suspendert av FL. En ting er jeg sikker på: Engelske tabloider vil ha nok å skrive om så lenge Cellino + Leeds United eksisterer. :P
Og når de engelske journalistene ikke har noe negativt og horribelt å skrive om Cellino eller Leeds United, så fabrikerer de selv en historie ut i fra ingenting. Cellino er en bortskjemt tulling, men en pannekake har garantert mer enn 1 side Jon R.... ;D
Plukket opp av Grayson i Preston:
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2015/07/02/when-i-saw-hed-left-leeds-i-wanted-him-simon-grayson-on-steve-thompson/218861/
::)
Redfearn's former assistant Steve Thompson: 'Complex' Leeds could be top five club in Britain
Former Leeds assistant manager Steve Thompson says the club could be one of the best in Britain.
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Newly-appointed Preston North End first team coach Steve Thompson has told BBC Radio Lancashire that former club Leeds can be a top five team in Britain.
Thompson, 50, was appointed Preston first team coach on Wednesday, reuniting with manager Simon Grayson after the duo not only played together for Leicester but also worked together at Blackpool.
Thompson's arrival at Deepdale is seen as a move to help the Lilywhites as they return to the Championship for the first time since relegation in 2011, with manager Grayson acting quickly to land him following his suspension at Leeds United.
Appointed as Neil Redfearn's assistant manager back in December 2014, Thompson aided Leeds' revival before the club controversially announced on their official website that Thompson had been suspended with immediate effect in April.
With his suspension up and Thompson free to move on, he has joined Preston - but told BBC Radio Lancashire upon his arrival that Leeds can become a top five club in Britain again, but added that the Elland Road club are 'complex' under the stewardship of chairman Massimo Cellino.
"It was a fantastic opportunity to work for what could be a top five club in Britain, there's no doubt with their support," said Thompson. "It was very complex, very different to what I was used to with the staff and the players, but it was great working with Redders."
"Our main objective was to keep them up in the Championship when they were two points off relegation, and we comfortably did that, we were third in the form league. We had everything going then, and then the suspension came and the wheels came off with five straight losses after it. The player were very disappointed with how I was treated, but you move on," he added.
Steps in the right direction
Leeds were in turmoil last season, but their summer activity so far suggests that there could be some stability in the near future.
Calculated signings such as Lee Erwin, Sol Bamba and Chris Wood have arrived, as has new manager Uwe Rosler, whilst the experienced Adam Pearson has also joined to assist Cellino.
Thompson's departure may have been a low point in Leeds' season, but it seems that the Whites are moving in the right direction - 11 years after their relegation from the Premier League.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/03/redfearns-former-assistant-steve-thompson-complex-leeds-could-be/
Enda et Thompson-intervju, og man kan bare lure på hva det egentlig gikk i (sett at Thompsons fremstilling er riktig)...
Han siterer noe Redders sa til ham som han først ikke forstod:
“I remember Redders [Redfearn] saying to me, ‘The better we do here, the worse it will be for us’. I thought that strange at the time but he was right.
Deretter kommer han med en teori:
“I think it was done to try and undermine Redders, and I really felt for him.
???
Han fikk altså også tilbud om å returnere... :-\
Former Leeds United assistant Steve Thompson says he was offered return by club, denies Nicola Salerno rift
Leeds controversially suspended Thompson in April.
Leeds United seem to be a settled club again at the moment. Adam Pearson has restored some order behind the scenes whilst Uwe Rosler has the team playing well on the pitch.
Toward the end of last season of course it was a completely different story.
One major area of controversy was the suspension of Neil Redfearn’s assistant Steve Thompson.
In a move that seemingly came out of the blue he was temporarily relieved of his duties in April and he never returned, with Redfearn also leaving the club.
It was a shocking decision as Thompson had been lauded for his impact on the first-team, helping to lead them from the relegation zone to a comfortable mid-table position.
No official reason has ever been given for his exit, but one rumour was a poor relationship with sporting director Nicola Salerno.
However he has refuted that in an interview with the Lancashire Evening Post today. The 50-year-old, who was appointed first-team coach at Preston North End this summer, stated:
“I remember Redders [Redfearn] saying to me, ‘The better we do here, the worse it will be for us’. I thought that strange at the time but he was right.
“One Thursday morning a letter was put on my desk informing me I had been suspended. There was no explanation and it was such a frustrating time for me.
“There were allegations of me falling out with football director Nicola Salerno but I didn’t fall out with anyone.
“I think it was done to try and undermine Redders, and I really felt for him.
“They lost five games on the bounce and the dressing room was spilt. Later I had offers to go back but I could never do that.â€
It certainly seems that, for whatever reason, the duo of Thompson and Redfearn just never sat right in the eyes of the hierarchy at Leeds United.
However, while what happened behind the scenes will always niggle at some Leeds fans, things appear to be settle now.
Leeds fans will therefore be getting behind the current structure and will want to forget about the circus that surrounded the club last season.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/09/06/former-leeds-united-assistant-steve-thompson-says-he-was-offered/
Quote from: Asbjørn on September 06, 2015, 17:45:31
Enda et Thompson-intervju, og man kan bare lure på hva det egentlig gikk i (sett at Thompsons fremstilling er riktig)...
Han siterer noe Redders sa til ham som han først ikke forstod:
“I remember Redders [Redfearn] saying to me, ‘The better we do here, the worse it will be for us’. I thought that strange at the time but he was right.
Deretter kommer han med en teori:
“I think it was done to try and undermine Redders, and I really felt for him.
???
Han fikk altså også tilbud om å returnere... :-\
Former Leeds United assistant Steve Thompson says he was offered return by club, denies Nicola Salerno rift
Leeds controversially suspended Thompson in April.
Leeds United seem to be a settled club again at the moment. Adam Pearson has restored some order behind the scenes whilst Uwe Rosler has the team playing well on the pitch.
Toward the end of last season of course it was a completely different story.
One major area of controversy was the suspension of Neil Redfearn’s assistant Steve Thompson.
In a move that seemingly came out of the blue he was temporarily relieved of his duties in April and he never returned, with Redfearn also leaving the club.
It was a shocking decision as Thompson had been lauded for his impact on the first-team, helping to lead them from the relegation zone to a comfortable mid-table position.
No official reason has ever been given for his exit, but one rumour was a poor relationship with sporting director Nicola Salerno.
However he has refuted that in an interview with the Lancashire Evening Post today. The 50-year-old, who was appointed first-team coach at Preston North End this summer, stated:
“I remember Redders [Redfearn] saying to me, ‘The better we do here, the worse it will be for us’. I thought that strange at the time but he was right.
“One Thursday morning a letter was put on my desk informing me I had been suspended. There was no explanation and it was such a frustrating time for me.
“There were allegations of me falling out with football director Nicola Salerno but I didn’t fall out with anyone.
“I think it was done to try and undermine Redders, and I really felt for him.
“They lost five games on the bounce and the dressing room was spilt. Later I had offers to go back but I could never do that.â€
It certainly seems that, for whatever reason, the duo of Thompson and Redfearn just never sat right in the eyes of the hierarchy at Leeds United.
However, while what happened behind the scenes will always niggle at some Leeds fans, things appear to be settle now.
Leeds fans will therefore be getting behind the current structure and will want to forget about the circus that surrounded the club last season.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/09/06/former-leeds-united-assistant-steve-thompson-says-he-was-offered/
Offer for egen suksess. Problemet var vel hvordan denne suksessen ble oppnådd, hadde Redders involvert signeringene til Cellino mer så hadde vel han kanskje fortsatt vært Headcoach?
Mer fra intervjuet:
Former assistant Steve Thompson reveals that some foreign players used to smoke before Leeds United training
The former assistant to Neil Redfearn was not impressed with the state of Leeds upon his arrival.
Things are looking positive at Leeds United at the moment, but last season was a completely different story. One casualty of the circus at Leeds last term was Steve Thompson. The former Leeds assistant was suspended for no reason in April, despite having a positive impact on the first-team.
A personal friend of then manager Neil Redfearn, it was a shock move from the powers at be at Leeds.
He has now been speaking to the Lancashire Evening Post about the state of things at Leeds when he arrived at the club.
Thompson, who is now first-team coach to former Leeds man Simon Grayson at Preston North End, said the dressing room was divided when he arrived and that some of the foreign players at the club would be smoking before training:
“Neil Redfearn had been given the job at Leeds and it was no-brainer to join him,†he said.
“They were second-bottom of the table and the job was to save them from relegation.
“It was so complex there, with something of a divided dressing room and players who just weren’t good enough.
“You had some of the foreign lads smoking before training which was something I just wasn’t used to."
Of course Leeds owner Massimo Cellino is certainly sympathetic to a nicotine user, he infamously stopped a macabre press conference this summer for a ciggie break.
But professionals in this day and age should be taking better care of their bodies and smoking is not going to help you run around a pitch for 90 minutes.
SEE ALSO: Ex-Leeds United assistant says he rejected Elland Road return, denies Salerno rift
Now it seems Leeds have trimmed the club of much of the riff-raff, and are left with a potent looking squad for new boss Uwe Rosler to deal with.
Even if some of the boys are still sneaking in the odd nicotine fix.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/09/06/former-assistant-steve-thompson-reveals-that-some-foreign-player/
Forferdelig intervju, hva med oppfølgningsspørsmål?
Intervju med Thompson på BBC Radio Leeds:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03g0byg#playt=29m05s
Nå i Preston og noe av grunnen til den gode formen laget viser:
Steve Thompson: Leeds' loss is Preston's gain
Match-winner Jordan Hugill explained what Steve Thompson has brought to Preston North End since arriving at the club in the summer.
I've always been intrigued, because his arrival at Leeds last season also led to an upturn, before he was suspended and then released.
There still hasn't been an official reason as to why this happened and Thompson is none the wiser.
"We’ve not really changed the squad since we got promoted from League One," Hugill told me.
"The spirit is still the same, everyone loves to come training. We’ve moved up the table as we’ve gone along.
"He’s been really good around the training ground. Sometimes after reserve games I’ll go to him and say what can I do better and he’ll always be honest with me.
"He gets players going. It’s something you need to have at the club and he’s brilliant.
"It’s good to have someone you can do and say what can I improve on? You’re always learning the game, no matter how old you get.
"It’s good to have someone to say ‘do this, don’t look out of place and he’s done that with me.’"
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