Title: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 22, 2016, 17:57:34
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 22, 2016, 17:57:34
Nest siste treningskamp-kamp før seriestart. Nok engang et Leeds XI som er satt sammen av Monk og Co.
Etter det jeg husker så går kampen på LUTV!
Gled dere!!! ;D
Jepp:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn7IOFgW8AAs2pW?format=jpg&name=large)
Etter det jeg husker så går kampen på LUTV!
Gled dere!!! ;D
Jepp:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn7IOFgW8AAs2pW?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 12:09:08
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 12:09:08
Phil Hay â€@PhilHayYEP · 3h3 hours ago
On to Peterborough. A guess at a line-up (4-2-3-1) - Green, Purver, Bamba, Bartley, Taylor, Murphy, Grimes, Dallas, Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson
On to Peterborough. A guess at a line-up (4-2-3-1) - Green, Purver, Bamba, Bartley, Taylor, Murphy, Grimes, Dallas, Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: sportcarl1 on July 23, 2016, 12:20:49
Post by: sportcarl1 on July 23, 2016, 12:20:49
Quote from: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 12:09:08Hoppas få se Sacko från start. :)
Phil Hay â€@PhilHayYEP · 3h3 hours ago
On to Peterborough. A guess at a line-up (4-2-3-1) - Green, Purver, Bamba, Bartley, Taylor, Murphy, Grimes, Dallas, Mowatt, Roofe, Antonsson
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: TK20 on July 23, 2016, 13:46:18
Post by: TK20 on July 23, 2016, 13:46:18
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: sportcarl1 on July 23, 2016, 14:49:37
Post by: sportcarl1 on July 23, 2016, 14:49:37
Quote from: TK20 on July 23, 2016, 13:46:18ja matchen visas på LUTVQuote from: sportcarl1 on July 23, 2016, 12:20:49
Hoppas få se Sacko från start. :)
Se?
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 15:06:27
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 15:06:27
lufc v Peterborough (4-2-3-1): Green; Purver, Bartley, Bamba, C Taylor; Murphy, Grimes; Sacko, Mowatt, Roofe; Antonsson. #lufclive
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Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 15:06:58
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 15:06:58
Tipper 1-1 i dag. Roofe med målet.
MOT!
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Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 15:59:23
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 15:59:23
...alltid like spennende om LUTV funker ::)
Satser på en jevn og velspillt kamp der Leeds vinner 6-0... MOT!!!
Satser på en jevn og velspillt kamp der Leeds vinner 6-0... MOT!!!
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: sveifors on July 23, 2016, 16:00:35
Post by: sveifors on July 23, 2016, 16:00:35
noen som har bilde på LUTV
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 16:01:07
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 16:01:07
Quote from: sveifors on July 23, 2016, 16:00:35
noen som har bilde på LUTV
Kom NÃ... :)
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 16:16:23
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 16:16:23
Vakkert!!!!!!!!MOT
Mowatt og Roofe kan bli en hit...
Mowatt og Roofe kan bli en hit...
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 16:22:14
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 16:22:14
Syns ærlig talt vi ser ut som et fotballag her. Bevegelige å med kantspillere. Roofe og mowatt vært goe. Ikke best motstand idag heller men likevel. Antonson også bevegelig å arbeidssom. Ser bedre ut offensivt enn på lenge. Lovende.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 16:22:24
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 16:22:24
Ser ikke kampen, men Hay er svært fornøyd så langt og skryter av Roofe. Mowatt gav oss nettopp ledelsen.
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Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 16:26:16
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 16:26:16
Og vi har fått en 'ny' spiller: Mowatt :)
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 16:30:36
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 16:30:36
Jupp. Mowatt vært meget bra.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: h.b on July 23, 2016, 16:38:19
Post by: h.b on July 23, 2016, 16:38:19
Quote from: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 16:30:36
Jupp. Mowatt vært meget bra.
Kanskje en ny vår. Men jeezus min hatt. Meget god mot svake motstandere er ikke akkurat det som betyr noe. Venter til sesongen setter i gang før jeg gir min dom
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Bjorn on July 23, 2016, 16:39:24
Post by: Bjorn on July 23, 2016, 16:39:24
Quote from: h.b on July 23, 2016, 16:38:19Quote from: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 16:30:36
Jupp. Mowatt vært meget bra.
Kanskje en ny vår. Men jeezus min hatt. Meget god mot svake motstandere er ikke akkurat det som betyr noe. Venter til sesongen setter i gang før jeg gir min dom
Høres bra ut.. blir litt slitsomt om man måtte gi dom etter noen få treninger.. :o
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Post by: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Murphy også god i første omgang, Bambi....virker usikker.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 16:48:17
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 16:48:17
Liker også farten til Sacko. Løper opp bra bakover - ikke 'end product' fremover ennå, men det kommer.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 16:51:44
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 16:51:44
Mye positivt...
Mowatt...Roofe...Sacko...Grimes...
Vi spiller som et lag...
Virker som om vi har en plan...
...og NÃ...R startet vi sist en kamp UTEN italienere??? ::)
We are Leeds...MOT!!!
Mowatt...Roofe...Sacko...Grimes...
Vi spiller som et lag...
Virker som om vi har en plan...
...og NÃ...R startet vi sist en kamp UTEN italienere??? ::)
We are Leeds...MOT!!!
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 17:10:38
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 17:10:38
1-1
Bamba gidder ikke legge press på en som ladder kanonen fra 25 meter...
Billig!
Bamba gidder ikke legge press på en som ladder kanonen fra 25 meter...
Billig!
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 17:12:26
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 17:12:26
Puslete duellspill a bartley å. Header rett ut i skuddsektor. Har spillere til hver side av seg å heade til.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: h.b on July 23, 2016, 17:15:07
Post by: h.b on July 23, 2016, 17:15:07
Quote from: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 17:12:26
Puslete duellspill a bartley å. Header rett ut i skuddsektor. Har spillere til hver side av seg å heade til.
Kanskje en grunn til at Bartley var på så mange utlån de siste årene. Har ikke helt trua på midtforsvaret nå som sesongen nærmer seg
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 17:26:37
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 17:26:37
Fcuk. 2-1 til Pboro 
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Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 17:26:41
Post by: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 17:26:41
Bambi er pinlig svak.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 17:27:36
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 17:27:36
Litt enig der. Bamba gjør myrme rart. Bartley har samme rykte. Dobbeltkrøll kan bli. Får håpe det kommer inn en stopper til. Skrekkelig 2 omg til nå.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 17:32:30
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 17:32:30
Ja, Bamba er mer 2015-Bamba enn 2014-Bamba :( Men det er midtbanen som er forskjellen på omgangene. Tror Hay er inne på det når han minner om at dette er første kampen deres som strekker seg over 60 minutter...
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 17:52:26
Post by: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 17:52:26
Det som faktisk skuffer mest i dag er backene våre sin vilje til å overlappe og utfordre i 1 mot 1 og da spesielt Taylor som vi bør forvente dette av.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 17:53:21
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 17:53:21
Ikke no vits å lese for mye i resultatet nei. Generelt liker jeg bedre konstellasjonen av spillere i dagens tropp enn tidligere ses. Mangler dog en stopper å en bedre midtbanegeral enn murphy. Kunne også tenkt meg en med mer fart enn mowatt i den offensive rollen. Litt flisespikkeri kanskje. Nå har vi i det minste stor fart i roofe å sacko. Med dallas å botaka også i kamp om de plassene. Wood å antonson fremme. Litt forskjellige typer. Mulighet til å variere taktikker er større med dagens stall enn foregående. Tror jeg da :P
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 17:53:29
Post by: auren on July 23, 2016, 17:53:29
Tap 2-1. Ikke godt nok! Dog en meget god første omgang 
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Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 17:53:46
Post by: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 17:53:46
Tap.
Reality check?
Vi er ikke helt der vi ønsker å være...mangler tydelig kamptrening.
Tipper det dukker opp en treningskamp til ila uken...
Monk har ikke råd til å bruke 10-15 kamper på å spille inn en førsteellver...all historie viser at han vil ryke før det...
Reality check?
Vi er ikke helt der vi ønsker å være...mangler tydelig kamptrening.
Tipper det dukker opp en treningskamp til ila uken...
Monk har ikke råd til å bruke 10-15 kamper på å spille inn en førsteellver...all historie viser at han vil ryke før det...
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: h.b on July 23, 2016, 17:55:55
Post by: h.b on July 23, 2016, 17:55:55
Quote from: JacobScreek on July 23, 2016, 17:53:46
Tap.
Reality check?
Vi er ikke helt der vi ønsker å være...mangler tydelig kamptrening.
Tipper det dukker opp en treningskamp til ila uken...
Monk har ikke råd til å bruke 10-15 kamper på å spille inn en førsteellver...all historie viser at han vil ryke før det...
Og det er her jeg mener at en klubb som Leeds feiler. Man bør ihvertfall ha 10-12 treningskamper før sesongen starter. Så bør ihvertfall de siste 4 kampene før sesongen være kamper hvor vi spiller inn en førsteelver. Engelske lag er så himla gammeldagse her
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 18:15:31
Post by: Annesj on July 23, 2016, 18:15:31
Godt vi ikke ere alene om det da.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 23, 2016, 18:20:02
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 23, 2016, 18:20:02
Phil Hay
Meanwhile, pitchside sprinklers are wrecking Monk's various interviews.
:)
Meanwhile, pitchside sprinklers are wrecking Monk's various interviews.
:)
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Lundewhites on July 23, 2016, 18:24:39
Post by: Lundewhites on July 23, 2016, 18:24:39
Her var jeg så uheldig å kun se 2 omgang... men håper VIRKELIG de var mye bedre i første. Flere her som klager på Bamba og med rette, men Murphy og Antonsson var jo helt vekk. Spilte jo med 9 mann... Og noen klager på Mowatt at han kun er god mot svak motstand. Peterborough var jo mye mye bedre enn Leeds i 2 omgang og Mowatt var den eneste som var bra for Leeds.Hva sier det da om de andre?? Syns Mowatt ser mye lettere ut i kroppen og at han allerede er mye bedre enn i fjor. Sacko prøvde mye, men var fryktelig klossete med ball. Og var det bare jeg som syns Green var fryktelig treg og lite mobil på skuddene? Dette var et sjokk for meg... greit at vi er i pre season, men det er jo jaggu Posh og.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Sølvreven on July 23, 2016, 18:49:13
Post by: Sølvreven on July 23, 2016, 18:49:13
Roofe, Mowatt og Purver var vel de som prøvde offensivt i dag. Purver reddet også på strek men gjorde en del blemmer defesivt også. De prøvde bra i første men manglet med avslutningene som vanlig....
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Josch on July 23, 2016, 20:57:32
Post by: Josch on July 23, 2016, 20:57:32
Ser på Posh sine sider at de skal ha 12 (!) treningskamper før den 06.08. Dette var den syvende . De kjører kamper omtrent tredjehver dag (med noe ulike lag). Opplagt at de prøver å spille seg i form, mens f.eks Leeds driver annen fysisk trening med få kamper. Det kan være noe av grunnen til at Leeds punkterte litt i 2 . omgang, at de ikke er vant til 90 minutter ennå. Av det jeg så av klipp så var Leeds klart best i 1. omgang og burde scoret 2-3 mål. Mye bra angrepsspill første 45 min.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 21:37:02
Post by: Asbjørn on July 23, 2016, 21:37:02
Phil Hay â€@PhilHayYEP · 4h4 hours ago ->2h2 hours ago
Impressive first half and should have scored more than once. Ran out of energy and ideas quickly in the second. #lufclive
Monk disappointed with result but happy with first half. Says that's how he wants to play and thinks players will take confidence from it.
Monk said Peterborough "couldn't get near us" before half-time and admitted missed chances were a factor. But pleased with the effort.
Monk says Leeds pre-season schedule is good enough and busy enough. Says five games is best to make sure Leeds don't burn out early.
Monk said other managers will do things differently but this is his way and he thinks it works best in pre-season.
Roofe came off with stomach cramps today but no great concern about him. Played well today. #lufclive
Meanwhile, pitchside sprinklers are wrecking Monk's various interviews.
If Leeds are going to peak as Monk expects them to then I liked what I saw from the best parts of today. Energy went in the second half.
Monk: "I’m experienced at this and I know how to peak a team. We’re peaking for the first day of the season, not for a game in pre-season."
Monk wouldn't comment on Bridcutt. "Different names will be mentioned. I like to keep those things quiet until there's something concrete."
Garry Monk says his Leeds United squad are on the right course, despite today's defeat at Peterborough:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/peterborough-2-leeds-1-we-re-firmly-on-target-monk-insists-1-8030411 …
Impressive first half and should have scored more than once. Ran out of energy and ideas quickly in the second. #lufclive
Monk disappointed with result but happy with first half. Says that's how he wants to play and thinks players will take confidence from it.
Monk said Peterborough "couldn't get near us" before half-time and admitted missed chances were a factor. But pleased with the effort.
Monk says Leeds pre-season schedule is good enough and busy enough. Says five games is best to make sure Leeds don't burn out early.
Monk said other managers will do things differently but this is his way and he thinks it works best in pre-season.
Roofe came off with stomach cramps today but no great concern about him. Played well today. #lufclive
Meanwhile, pitchside sprinklers are wrecking Monk's various interviews.
If Leeds are going to peak as Monk expects them to then I liked what I saw from the best parts of today. Energy went in the second half.
Monk: "I’m experienced at this and I know how to peak a team. We’re peaking for the first day of the season, not for a game in pre-season."
Monk wouldn't comment on Bridcutt. "Different names will be mentioned. I like to keep those things quiet until there's something concrete."
Garry Monk says his Leeds United squad are on the right course, despite today's defeat at Peterborough:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/peterborough-2-leeds-1-we-re-firmly-on-target-monk-insists-1-8030411 …
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Kai on July 24, 2016, 00:20:12
Post by: Kai on July 24, 2016, 00:20:12
Quote from: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Murphy også god i første omgang, Bambi....virker usikker.
Hva synes du om det du så av Murphy i Irland?
Har lest litt at han ble omtalt i positive ordlag.
Spent på om Monk får det beste utav han og at vi har enda en "ny" signering på plass.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: h.b on July 24, 2016, 07:45:49
Post by: h.b on July 24, 2016, 07:45:49
Quote from: Kai on July 24, 2016, 00:20:12Quote from: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Murphy også god i første omgang, Bambi....virker usikker.
Hva synes du om det du så av Murphy i Irland?
Har lest litt at han ble omtalt i positive ordlag.
Spent på om Monk får det beste utav han og at vi har enda en "ny" signering på plass.
Det som er min skepsis til Murphy er det med tempoet. Han drar ned tempoet for ofte, og gir for mange støttepassninger i en kamp
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 09:05:51
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 09:05:51
Green var da fullstendig forferdelig på de to langskuddene som gikk inn.
Noen som så noe bra haan gjorde?
Noen som så noe bra haan gjorde?
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Frode on July 24, 2016, 09:38:25
Post by: Frode on July 24, 2016, 09:38:25
Player ratings:
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/07/24/leeds-united-player-ratings-v-peterborough-united-kemar-roofe-st/?
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/07/24/leeds-united-player-ratings-v-peterborough-united-kemar-roofe-st/?
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 09:59:42
Post by: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 09:59:42
Quote from: h.b on July 24, 2016, 07:45:49Quote from: Kai on July 24, 2016, 00:20:12Quote from: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Murphy også god i første omgang, Bambi....virker usikker.
Hva synes du om det du så av Murphy i Irland?
Har lest litt at han ble omtalt i positive ordlag.
Spent på om Monk får det beste utav han og at vi har enda en "ny" signering på plass.
Det som er min skepsis til Murphy er det med tempoet. Han drar ned tempoet for ofte, og gir for mange støttepassninger i en kamp
Blir litt som Håkon skriver her Kai, tempo, klarte seg bra i Irland hvor han vekslet mellom å spille midtstopper og defensiv midtbane, distribuerte ball greit, syns også han var god i første omgang i går men disse kampene har vært mot enklere motstand enn hva vi vil møte i Championship, spent på sesongen han nå får med en trener som forhåpentligvis har et spillopplegg og bedre? spillere rundt seg.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Kai on July 24, 2016, 11:24:06
Post by: Kai on July 24, 2016, 11:24:06
Quote from: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 09:59:42Quote from: h.b on July 24, 2016, 07:45:49Quote from: Kai on July 24, 2016, 00:20:12Quote from: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Murphy også god i første omgang, Bambi....virker usikker.
Hva synes du om det du så av Murphy i Irland?
Har lest litt at han ble omtalt i positive ordlag.
Spent på om Monk får det beste utav han og at vi har enda en "ny" signering på plass.
Det som er min skepsis til Murphy er det med tempoet. Han drar ned tempoet for ofte, og gir for mange støttepassninger i en kamp
Blir litt som Håkon skriver her Kai, tempo, klarte seg bra i Irland hvor han vekslet mellom å spille midtstopper og defensiv midtbane, distribuerte ball greit, syns også han var god i første omgang i går men disse kampene har vært mot enklere motstand enn hva vi vil møte i Championship, spent på sesongen han nå får med en trener som forhåpentligvis har et spillopplegg og bedre? spillere rundt seg.
Takk for svar.
Er den siste linja her jeg også er spent på.
Ikke bare med Murphy, men tror fort et par andre av fjorårs-spillerne kan klatre opp et nivå og to på bakgrunn av dette.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Jon R on July 24, 2016, 11:53:44
Post by: Jon R on July 24, 2016, 11:53:44
Quote from: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 09:59:42Murphy som midtstopper??? Nå har jeg hørt det og. :o *sjokkert*Quote from: h.b on July 24, 2016, 07:45:49Quote from: Kai on July 24, 2016, 00:20:12Quote from: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Murphy også god i første omgang, Bambi....virker usikker.
Hva synes du om det du så av Murphy i Irland?
Har lest litt at han ble omtalt i positive ordlag.
Spent på om Monk får det beste utav han og at vi har enda en "ny" signering på plass.
Det som er min skepsis til Murphy er det med tempoet. Han drar ned tempoet for ofte, og gir for mange støttepassninger i en kamp
Blir litt som Håkon skriver her Kai, tempo, klarte seg bra i Irland hvor han vekslet mellom å spille midtstopper og defensiv midtbane, distribuerte ball greit, syns også han var god i første omgang i går men disse kampene har vært mot enklere motstand enn hva vi vil møte i Championship, spent på sesongen han nå får med en trener som forhåpentligvis har et spillopplegg og bedre? spillere rundt seg.
Helt enig i det som skrives om Murphy og tempo. Som "holding player" blir det for mye støttepasninger på Murphy. Han må brukes høyere opp på banen, helst i 10er rollen.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 12:25:32
Post by: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 12:25:32
Quote from: Jon R on July 24, 2016, 11:53:44Quote from: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 09:59:42Murphy som midtstopper??? Nå har jeg hørt det og. :o *sjokkert*Quote from: h.b on July 24, 2016, 07:45:49Quote from: Kai on July 24, 2016, 00:20:12Quote from: Rudi G. on July 23, 2016, 16:45:32
Murphy også god i første omgang, Bambi....virker usikker.
Hva synes du om det du så av Murphy i Irland?
Har lest litt at han ble omtalt i positive ordlag.
Spent på om Monk får det beste utav han og at vi har enda en "ny" signering på plass.
Det som er min skepsis til Murphy er det med tempoet. Han drar ned tempoet for ofte, og gir for mange støttepassninger i en kamp
Blir litt som Håkon skriver her Kai, tempo, klarte seg bra i Irland hvor han vekslet mellom å spille midtstopper og defensiv midtbane, distribuerte ball greit, syns også han var god i første omgang i går men disse kampene har vært mot enklere motstand enn hva vi vil møte i Championship, spent på sesongen han nå får med en trener som forhåpentligvis har et spillopplegg og bedre? spillere rundt seg.
Helt enig i det som skrives om Murphy og tempo. Som "holding player" blir det for mye støttepasninger på Murphy. Han må brukes høyere opp på banen, helst i 10er rollen.
Jada Jon, som midtstopper, Diagouraga også, tyder vel bare på at Monk vet vi er short i den posisjonen.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
Post by: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Jon R on July 24, 2016, 20:54:29
Post by: Jon R on July 24, 2016, 20:54:29
Quote from: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45Joda men kan ikke se at Murphy har noen som helst kvaliteter som tilsier at han skal være cover i den posisjonen. Først i rekka bør stå en av backene evt en duell og hodesterke midtbanespiller/ spiss...
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:01:41
Post by: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:01:41
Quote from: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Da Leeds vant Div. 1 (sesongen før Premier League ble startet), vikarierte både Batty, Speed og til og med McAllister på backplass. Dorigo var ute noen kamper, men spesielt Sterland var skadeplaget det året.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 21:12:27
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 21:12:27
Quote from: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:01:41Quote from: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Da Leeds vant Div. 1 (sesongen før Premier League ble startet), vikarierte både Batty, Speed og til og med McAllister på backplass. Dorigo var ute noen kamper, men spesielt Sterland var skadeplaget det året.
Her tar du nok feil:
"Sterland was a key player in Leeds United's title triumph of the 1991-92 season - the last of the Football League First Division before the creation of the FA Premier League as the top division of English football - as he scored six goals in 31 league games. Sterland played three games in the new Premier League before suffering an ankle injury in the autumn of 1992.[3]"
Skaden komme sesongen etter!
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 24, 2016, 21:22:09
Post by: Asbjørn on July 24, 2016, 21:22:09
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 21:12:27Quote from: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:01:41Quote from: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Da Leeds vant Div. 1 (sesongen før Premier League ble startet), vikarierte både Batty, Speed og til og med McAllister på backplass. Dorigo var ute noen kamper, men spesielt Sterland var skadeplaget det året.
Her tar du nok feil:
"Sterland was a key player in Leeds United's title triumph of the 1991-92 season - the last of the Football League First Division before the creation of the FA Premier League as the top division of English football - as he scored six goals in 31 league games. Sterland played three games in the new Premier League before suffering an ankle injury in the autumn of 1992.[3]"
Skaden komme sesongen etter!
Jojo, men spilte han 31 av 42 kamper trengtes det jo en annen høyreback i 11 kamper...
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:27:49
Post by: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:27:49
Quote from: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 21:12:27Quote from: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:01:41Quote from: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Da Leeds vant Div. 1 (sesongen før Premier League ble startet), vikarierte både Batty, Speed og til og med McAllister på backplass. Dorigo var ute noen kamper, men spesielt Sterland var skadeplaget det året.
Her tar du nok feil:
"Sterland was a key player in Leeds United's title triumph of the 1991-92 season - the last of the Football League First Division before the creation of the FA Premier League as the top division of English football - as he scored six goals in 31 league games. Sterland played three games in the new Premier League before suffering an ankle injury in the autumn of 1992.[3]"
Skaden komme sesongen etter!
Javel, så var akkurat det en bom, men de tre nevnte herrer måtte i alle fall ned på back-plass flere ganger av ulike årsaker.
Jeg deltok på en middag hvor Speed og McAllister var til stede. Der kunne vi, etter bespisningen, reise oss og stille spørsmål til de to. Og mitt spørsmål gjaldt akkurat dette; hvordan det var å spille på uvant plass.
Så akkurat DET er jeg 100% sikker på. ;) (Men ikke spør meg om å gjengi svaret som Gary Speed kom med)
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:32:56
Post by: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:32:56
Quote from: Asbjørn on July 24, 2016, 21:22:09Quote from: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 21:12:27Quote from: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:01:41Quote from: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Da Leeds vant Div. 1 (sesongen før Premier League ble startet), vikarierte både Batty, Speed og til og med McAllister på backplass. Dorigo var ute noen kamper, men spesielt Sterland var skadeplaget det året.
Her tar du nok feil:
"Sterland was a key player in Leeds United's title triumph of the 1991-92 season - the last of the Football League First Division before the creation of the FA Premier League as the top division of English football - as he scored six goals in 31 league games. Sterland played three games in the new Premier League before suffering an ankle injury in the autumn of 1992.[3]"
Skaden komme sesongen etter!
Jojo, men spilte han 31 av 42 kamper trengtes det jo en annen høyreback i 11 kamper...
Enkel matematikk, selvfølgelig. Takker for den!
Og Sterland VAR jo skadeplaget... ;)
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 21:37:24
Post by: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 21:37:24
Quote from: Asbjørn on July 24, 2016, 21:22:09Quote from: Promotion 2010 on July 24, 2016, 21:12:27Quote from: Hallgeir * on July 24, 2016, 21:01:41Quote from: Josch on July 24, 2016, 13:08:45
I enkelte tilfeller kan det bli nødvendig at midtbanespillere må spille midtstopper i løpet av kamper: ved skader (når alle reserver er brukt) , når midtstopper blir utvist , når man bytter ut midtstopper med offensiv spiller for å jage et mål, når man forsvarer en ledelse osv. Helt greit at noen flere da har litt trening fra denne posisjonen. Det er ikke for å plassere Murphy eller Diagouraga der permanent.
Det kommer alltid kampsituasjoner der noen MÃ... spille på en uvant plass av ulike årsaker. Viktig at flere er litt vant til denne plassen, som er kjernen i forsvaret.
I EM spilte f.eks Modrić midtstopper i noen få minutter da lagkamerat (stopper) ble bandasjert på sidelinjen.
Da Leeds vant Div. 1 (sesongen før Premier League ble startet), vikarierte både Batty, Speed og til og med McAllister på backplass. Dorigo var ute noen kamper, men spesielt Sterland var skadeplaget det året.
Her tar du nok feil:
"Sterland was a key player in Leeds United's title triumph of the 1991-92 season - the last of the Football League First Division before the creation of the FA Premier League as the top division of English football - as he scored six goals in 31 league games. Sterland played three games in the new Premier League before suffering an ankle injury in the autumn of 1992.[3]"
Skaden komme sesongen etter!
Jojo, men spilte han 31 av 42 kamper trengtes det jo en annen høyreback i 11 kamper...
Og det var vel Jon Newsome?
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 24, 2016, 21:42:49
Post by: Asbjørn on July 24, 2016, 21:42:49
Quote from: Rudi G. on July 24, 2016, 21:37:24
Og det var vel Jon Newsome?
Ikke umulig, Vet han var back innimellom.
10 kamper (7 fra start) den sesongen, to mål. Jo, han var handsome foran mål. han. :)
http://www.leeds-fans.org.uk/leeds/players/457.html
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:13:36
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:13:36
Mange gode poenger fra Monk her:
Peterborough 2 Leeds United 1: Monk and Grimes see progress in defeat
By Phil Hay
Published: 00:00 Monday 25 July 2016
Pre-season never changes. It doesn’t matter until it does and it matters until it doesn’t, an unpredictable outlook which is subject to results.
The annual routine is only broken by the start of the season and the knowledge that an opinionated grey area has gone.
Leeds United were beaten at London Road on Saturday, beaten from a position of strength, and that fact irked Garry Monk, even though in his words the result was not all-consuming. It was his second game-of-two-halves in as many days, following on from Guiseley on Friday when a different Leeds side, a weaker Leeds side, trailed 3-0 before winning 4-3.
Significant or not, Peterborough United’s victory was something of a diversion. There were two other things for Monk to ponder on the road home: a terrific, relentless first half during which his style shone through in players who clearly get it, and a second half where Leeds suffered in oppressive heat and lost to a F***er Peterborough side.
“That’s one of the hottest game I’ve ever played in,†said midfielder Matt Grimes and Monk sympathised. From the first whistle to the last, United’s head coach could have done with a showering from the sprinklers which randomly attacked him as he tried to conduct his post-match interviews by the tunnel.
“I was sweating and I was sat on the bench,†Monk said, “but that’s one of the reasons why I’m happy. The second half was purely physical reasons. It wasn’t tactical or technical.â€
A first pre-season loss registered with him all the same. “You never want to lose,†he said. “The winning feeling we’ve had in the last few games, you want to keep it going.â€
The first half at London Road was a huge consolation for him. Leeds were aggressive, incisive and compact to the point where Peterborough struggled to compete. Monk, a coach who said last week that 800 passes in return for no goals was not his idea of passing football, saw discipline and organisation, and the positive impact of certain decisions.
Quick movement of possession had Peterborough’s defence in trouble and allowed Kemar Roofe to give right-back Michael Smith the runaround until the break. Roofe’s trickery and cross saw Alex Mowatt bury a volley with 16 minutes played and Leeds had enough chances to sink Peterborough before the conditions kicked in.
“You saw in the first 45 that when we’re fit, when we’ve got a lot of energy levels, that’s exactly the football we can play,†Monk said. “We totally dominated them. We should have scored a few more goals.â€
Grimes, who worked with Monk at Swansea City, felt much the same. “We were disappointed with result but there were a lot of positives,†the on-loan midfielder said. “We’ve got a philosophy and there’s a positive attitude.
“We’re looking forward first and not looking to be safe with the ball. Sometimes you need to do that or keep possession to kill the game but we want to get forward and create chances. That’s hopefully what we showed in the first half. Keeping that going for 90 minutes is where we need to get to now.â€
That sort of football is easy to admire, as many did while Monk was managing Swansea, but it did not take long in the second half for Leeds to tire, falter and succumb to two spectacular goals from Shaquile Coulthirst. As the heat took Monk’s players, their discipline left them and their energy dissipated. As Monk said afterwards, it was obvious which side had gathered more minutes in pre-season so far.
Leeds have had four friendlies to date â€" individual players have featured in no more than three â€" and Atalanta at Elland Road this Saturday ends pre-season with a fifth friendly. In the past, United have been known to contest seven or eight. So the obvious question for Monk, two weeks out from the start of the season and with his squad playing 90 minutes for the first time, was whether the fitness of his players was truly where it needed to be.
“From my experience, managing and playing, I know how to peak a team best,†he said. “You can do it in two ways. You can load pre-season up with games and have a fantastic start but then you crash and burn around Christmas. Or you can try and taper it.
“I’ve seen many managers do it differently. I’ve seen it where they top-load pre-season with games and you’re flying at the start, you’re at your peak, but because you’ve had so many games so early you start suffering around Christmas and in the second half of the season.
“I’ve seen that done and it’s fine but I try and do it in a different way. This is my way.
“At the start of the season we’ll be at a level where we can compete properly. But three or four games in, when we’re at our peak, you’ll see what you saw in the first 45 minutes for the full 90 minutes â€" and for the whole season. That’s the plan.â€
The test of that will come soon enough but it is hard not to be impressed with Monk’s ideas. Roofe, who left the pitch in the second half with stomach cramps, looks evermore the signing of the summer and an advert for sizeable but well-considered investment. He laid on Mowatt’s goal and was unlucky not to score himself. Marcus Antonsson and Hadi Sacko also went close before half-time while Sacko was denied by a good, low save from Ben Alnwick.
In a central position, tucked in behind a front three, Mowatt saw more chances than he did in five times as many games last season, when form eluded him and a role on the left wing swallowed him. A 20-yard shot before the interval was inches from sneaking inside a post. Neil Redfearn, who coached Mowatt in the 21-year-old’s player-of-the-year season, attended London Road as a radio pundit on Saturday. “You’ve got to play him in the middle,†Redfearn said. “Anywhere else is a waste of his ability and his goals.â€
Mowatt’s most recent campaign, by his own admission, barely earned him pass-marks but he has a spring in his step again. “He’s been great and he’s been very hard-working,†Monk said. “I don’t think he needs an arm round him. I just think the players are being pushed and the demands here are high.â€
At half-time Monk had little more to ask of his players but Peterborough drew breath and rapidly overcame their inability to make Leeds sweat.
Monk’s side had survived two defensive mix-ups in the first half, one leading to a goalline clearance from right-back Alex Purver, when a weak clearing header from Kyle Bartley on 50 minutes was brilliantly dispatched by Coulthirst on the volley from 25 yards.
Fifteen minutes later, Coulthirst repeated the trick from the same distance, driving the ball into Rob Green’s bottom corner as Monk’s defence stood off him. In that area of the pitch, the ills of last season are not yet cured.
There were late chances of an equaliser but Sacko, whose excellent workrate was tempered by his end product, found Alnwick equal to him twice. “Those attacking movements are a massive part of what we deliver as a coaching staff,†Monk said.
“Some teams just attack in a certain way and that’s it but you saw we could attack wide, attack centrally and build the play up well. We need to do better, I understand that, but we’re getting there.
“That first 45 minutes is a clear indication of how we’re going to play when we’re fully fit.
“We’re building it up and in the next two weeks you’ll see the difference for sure. We’re peaking for the first day of the season, not for pre-season.â€
Peterborough United: Alnwick, Smith, Hughes, Tafazolli, Baldwin, Forrester, J Anderson (Edwards 63), Da Silva Lopes (Chettle 77), Maddison, P Taylor, Coulthirst. Subs (not used): Tyler, Bostwick, Nichols, Nabi, Chettle, Stevens, Freestone, White.
Leeds United: Green, Purver, Bartley, Bamba, Taylor, Murphy, Grimes; Sacko, Mowatt, Roofe (J McKay 63), Antonsson. Subs (not used): Huffer, M Taylor, Shackleton.
Attendance: 4,152.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/peterborough-2-leeds-united-1-monk-and-grimes-see-progress-in-defeat-1-8031066
Peterborough 2 Leeds United 1: Monk and Grimes see progress in defeat
By Phil Hay
Published: 00:00 Monday 25 July 2016
Pre-season never changes. It doesn’t matter until it does and it matters until it doesn’t, an unpredictable outlook which is subject to results.
The annual routine is only broken by the start of the season and the knowledge that an opinionated grey area has gone.
Leeds United were beaten at London Road on Saturday, beaten from a position of strength, and that fact irked Garry Monk, even though in his words the result was not all-consuming. It was his second game-of-two-halves in as many days, following on from Guiseley on Friday when a different Leeds side, a weaker Leeds side, trailed 3-0 before winning 4-3.
Significant or not, Peterborough United’s victory was something of a diversion. There were two other things for Monk to ponder on the road home: a terrific, relentless first half during which his style shone through in players who clearly get it, and a second half where Leeds suffered in oppressive heat and lost to a F***er Peterborough side.
“That’s one of the hottest game I’ve ever played in,†said midfielder Matt Grimes and Monk sympathised. From the first whistle to the last, United’s head coach could have done with a showering from the sprinklers which randomly attacked him as he tried to conduct his post-match interviews by the tunnel.
“I was sweating and I was sat on the bench,†Monk said, “but that’s one of the reasons why I’m happy. The second half was purely physical reasons. It wasn’t tactical or technical.â€
A first pre-season loss registered with him all the same. “You never want to lose,†he said. “The winning feeling we’ve had in the last few games, you want to keep it going.â€
The first half at London Road was a huge consolation for him. Leeds were aggressive, incisive and compact to the point where Peterborough struggled to compete. Monk, a coach who said last week that 800 passes in return for no goals was not his idea of passing football, saw discipline and organisation, and the positive impact of certain decisions.
Quick movement of possession had Peterborough’s defence in trouble and allowed Kemar Roofe to give right-back Michael Smith the runaround until the break. Roofe’s trickery and cross saw Alex Mowatt bury a volley with 16 minutes played and Leeds had enough chances to sink Peterborough before the conditions kicked in.
“You saw in the first 45 that when we’re fit, when we’ve got a lot of energy levels, that’s exactly the football we can play,†Monk said. “We totally dominated them. We should have scored a few more goals.â€
Grimes, who worked with Monk at Swansea City, felt much the same. “We were disappointed with result but there were a lot of positives,†the on-loan midfielder said. “We’ve got a philosophy and there’s a positive attitude.
“We’re looking forward first and not looking to be safe with the ball. Sometimes you need to do that or keep possession to kill the game but we want to get forward and create chances. That’s hopefully what we showed in the first half. Keeping that going for 90 minutes is where we need to get to now.â€
That sort of football is easy to admire, as many did while Monk was managing Swansea, but it did not take long in the second half for Leeds to tire, falter and succumb to two spectacular goals from Shaquile Coulthirst. As the heat took Monk’s players, their discipline left them and their energy dissipated. As Monk said afterwards, it was obvious which side had gathered more minutes in pre-season so far.
Leeds have had four friendlies to date â€" individual players have featured in no more than three â€" and Atalanta at Elland Road this Saturday ends pre-season with a fifth friendly. In the past, United have been known to contest seven or eight. So the obvious question for Monk, two weeks out from the start of the season and with his squad playing 90 minutes for the first time, was whether the fitness of his players was truly where it needed to be.
“From my experience, managing and playing, I know how to peak a team best,†he said. “You can do it in two ways. You can load pre-season up with games and have a fantastic start but then you crash and burn around Christmas. Or you can try and taper it.
“I’ve seen many managers do it differently. I’ve seen it where they top-load pre-season with games and you’re flying at the start, you’re at your peak, but because you’ve had so many games so early you start suffering around Christmas and in the second half of the season.
“I’ve seen that done and it’s fine but I try and do it in a different way. This is my way.
“At the start of the season we’ll be at a level where we can compete properly. But three or four games in, when we’re at our peak, you’ll see what you saw in the first 45 minutes for the full 90 minutes â€" and for the whole season. That’s the plan.â€
The test of that will come soon enough but it is hard not to be impressed with Monk’s ideas. Roofe, who left the pitch in the second half with stomach cramps, looks evermore the signing of the summer and an advert for sizeable but well-considered investment. He laid on Mowatt’s goal and was unlucky not to score himself. Marcus Antonsson and Hadi Sacko also went close before half-time while Sacko was denied by a good, low save from Ben Alnwick.
In a central position, tucked in behind a front three, Mowatt saw more chances than he did in five times as many games last season, when form eluded him and a role on the left wing swallowed him. A 20-yard shot before the interval was inches from sneaking inside a post. Neil Redfearn, who coached Mowatt in the 21-year-old’s player-of-the-year season, attended London Road as a radio pundit on Saturday. “You’ve got to play him in the middle,†Redfearn said. “Anywhere else is a waste of his ability and his goals.â€
Mowatt’s most recent campaign, by his own admission, barely earned him pass-marks but he has a spring in his step again. “He’s been great and he’s been very hard-working,†Monk said. “I don’t think he needs an arm round him. I just think the players are being pushed and the demands here are high.â€
At half-time Monk had little more to ask of his players but Peterborough drew breath and rapidly overcame their inability to make Leeds sweat.
Monk’s side had survived two defensive mix-ups in the first half, one leading to a goalline clearance from right-back Alex Purver, when a weak clearing header from Kyle Bartley on 50 minutes was brilliantly dispatched by Coulthirst on the volley from 25 yards.
Fifteen minutes later, Coulthirst repeated the trick from the same distance, driving the ball into Rob Green’s bottom corner as Monk’s defence stood off him. In that area of the pitch, the ills of last season are not yet cured.
There were late chances of an equaliser but Sacko, whose excellent workrate was tempered by his end product, found Alnwick equal to him twice. “Those attacking movements are a massive part of what we deliver as a coaching staff,†Monk said.
“Some teams just attack in a certain way and that’s it but you saw we could attack wide, attack centrally and build the play up well. We need to do better, I understand that, but we’re getting there.
“That first 45 minutes is a clear indication of how we’re going to play when we’re fully fit.
“We’re building it up and in the next two weeks you’ll see the difference for sure. We’re peaking for the first day of the season, not for pre-season.â€
Peterborough United: Alnwick, Smith, Hughes, Tafazolli, Baldwin, Forrester, J Anderson (Edwards 63), Da Silva Lopes (Chettle 77), Maddison, P Taylor, Coulthirst. Subs (not used): Tyler, Bostwick, Nichols, Nabi, Chettle, Stevens, Freestone, White.
Leeds United: Green, Purver, Bartley, Bamba, Taylor, Murphy, Grimes; Sacko, Mowatt, Roofe (J McKay 63), Antonsson. Subs (not used): Huffer, M Taylor, Shackleton.
Attendance: 4,152.
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Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:18:47
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:18:47
Quote from: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:13:36Peterborough spilte sin 7. treningskamp, våre gutter sin tredje, og også sin første fulle 90-minutter. Jeg ser argumentet hans, og ja, vi har alltid 'faded' etter jul, så jhan kan ha et poeng. MEN, tar han sjansen på en slow start og likevel beholde jobben??? :o
“but that’s one of the reasons why I’m happy. The second half was purely physical reasons. It wasn’t tactical or technical.â€
As Monk said afterwards, it was obvious which side had gathered more minutes in pre-season so far.
Leeds have had four friendlies to date â€" individual players have featured in no more than three â€" and Atalanta at Elland Road this Saturday ends pre-season with a fifth friendly. In the past, United have been known to contest seven or eight. So the obvious question for Monk, two weeks out from the start of the season and with his squad playing 90 minutes for the first time, was whether the fitness of his players was truly where it needed to be.
“From my experience, managing and playing, I know how to peak a team best,†he said. “You can do it in two ways. You can load pre-season up with games and have a fantastic start but then you crash and burn around Christmas. Or you can try and taper it.
“I’ve seen many managers do it differently. I’ve seen it where they top-load pre-season with games and you’re flying at the start, you’re at your peak, but because you’ve had so many games so early you start suffering around Christmas and in the second half of the season.
“I’ve seen that done and it’s fine but I try and do it in a different way. This is my way.
“At the start of the season we’ll be at a level where we can compete properly. But three or four games in, when we’re at our peak, you’ll see what you saw in the first 45 minutes for the full 90 minutes â€" and for the whole season. That’s the plan.â€
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Nørgaard on July 25, 2016, 11:45:16
Post by: Nørgaard on July 25, 2016, 11:45:16
Quote from: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:18:47Quote from: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:13:36Peterborough spilte sin 7. treningskamp, våre gutter sin tredje, og også sin første fulle 90-minutter. Jeg ser argumentet hans, og ja, vi har alltid 'faded' etter jul, så jhan kan ha et poeng. MEN, tar han sjansen på en slow start og likevel beholde jobben??? :o
“but that’s one of the reasons why I’m happy. The second half was purely physical reasons. It wasn’t tactical or technical.â€
As Monk said afterwards, it was obvious which side had gathered more minutes in pre-season so far.
Leeds have had four friendlies to date â€" individual players have featured in no more than three â€" and Atalanta at Elland Road this Saturday ends pre-season with a fifth friendly. In the past, United have been known to contest seven or eight. So the obvious question for Monk, two weeks out from the start of the season and with his squad playing 90 minutes for the first time, was whether the fitness of his players was truly where it needed to be.
“From my experience, managing and playing, I know how to peak a team best,†he said. “You can do it in two ways. You can load pre-season up with games and have a fantastic start but then you crash and burn around Christmas. Or you can try and taper it.
“I’ve seen many managers do it differently. I’ve seen it where they top-load pre-season with games and you’re flying at the start, you’re at your peak, but because you’ve had so many games so early you start suffering around Christmas and in the second half of the season.
“I’ve seen that done and it’s fine but I try and do it in a different way. This is my way.
“At the start of the season we’ll be at a level where we can compete properly. But three or four games in, when we’re at our peak, you’ll see what you saw in the first 45 minutes for the full 90 minutes â€" and for the whole season. That’s the plan.â€
Ja hans ide er god, men han leger med ilden når Cellino er chef.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Blank_File on July 25, 2016, 12:37:10
Post by: Blank_File on July 25, 2016, 12:37:10
Mannen kan jo ikke fire på metodene sine selv om han tar en sjanse ved å gjøre det. Jeg er glad for å høre at han åpenbart tørr å gjøre det han har tro på.
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Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 13:05:03
Post by: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 13:05:03
Quote from: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:18:47Quote from: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 10:13:36Peterborough spilte sin 7. treningskamp, våre gutter sin tredje, og også sin første fulle 90-minutter. Jeg ser argumentet hans, og ja, vi har alltid 'faded' etter jul, så jhan kan ha et poeng. MEN, tar han sjansen på en slow start og likevel beholde jobben??? :o
“but that’s one of the reasons why I’m happy. The second half was purely physical reasons. It wasn’t tactical or technical.â€
As Monk said afterwards, it was obvious which side had gathered more minutes in pre-season so far.
Leeds have had four friendlies to date â€" individual players have featured in no more than three â€" and Atalanta at Elland Road this Saturday ends pre-season with a fifth friendly. In the past, United have been known to contest seven or eight. So the obvious question for Monk, two weeks out from the start of the season and with his squad playing 90 minutes for the first time, was whether the fitness of his players was truly where it needed to be.
“From my experience, managing and playing, I know how to peak a team best,†he said. “You can do it in two ways. You can load pre-season up with games and have a fantastic start but then you crash and burn around Christmas. Or you can try and taper it.
“I’ve seen many managers do it differently. I’ve seen it where they top-load pre-season with games and you’re flying at the start, you’re at your peak, but because you’ve had so many games so early you start suffering around Christmas and in the second half of the season.
“I’ve seen that done and it’s fine but I try and do it in a different way. This is my way.
“At the start of the season we’ll be at a level where we can compete properly. But three or four games in, when we’re at our peak, you’ll see what you saw in the first 45 minutes for the full 90 minutes â€" and for the whole season. That’s the plan.â€
Var vel totalt den fjerde og blir totalt fem så langt vi vet, de siste årene har vi vel lagt rundt dette tallet så forstår ikke helt hvorfor det har blitt ett tema denne gangen?
Finnes der en statisk på det her inne?
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 17:27:42
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 17:27:42
Quote from: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 13:05:03
Var vel totalt den fjerde og blir totalt fem så langt vi vet, de siste årene har vi vel lagt rundt dette tallet så forstår ikke helt hvorfor det har blitt ett tema denne gangen?
Riktig, totalt den fjerde så det blir fem. Der var derfor jeg skrev at det var SPILLERNES tredje kamp (nr to og tre spilte de hver for seg). Ifølge Hay har det stort sett vært 7 tidligere. Men jeg er enig i at Uwe i fjor var besvisst på å ha færre treningskamper så det var gjerne det samme da...
Er gjerne noe yngre coacher har litt bevisst på de siste årene...
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 17:56:40
Post by: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 17:56:40
Quote from: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 17:27:42Quote from: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 13:05:03
Var vel totalt den fjerde og blir totalt fem så langt vi vet, de siste årene har vi vel lagt rundt dette tallet så forstår ikke helt hvorfor det har blitt ett tema denne gangen?
Riktig, totalt den fjerde så det blir fem. Der var derfor jeg skrev at det var SPILLERNES tredje kamp (nr to og tre spilte de hver for seg). Ifølge Hay har det stort sett vært 7 tidligere. Men jeg er enig i at Uwe i fjor var besvisst på å ha færre treningskamper så det var gjerne det samme da...
Er gjerne noe yngre coacher har litt bevisst på de siste årene...
Skal ikke dra det så veldig langt Asbjørn :) men teller du minutter så spiller de gjerne 30 i den ene og 60 i den andre og så 90 i den tredje, blir slik med stor tropp, skal heller ikke være helt bastant men mener å huske SG hadde 5 kamper i 2011 Warnock det samme i 2012, Redfearn det samme i 2013, Hocaday hadde vel omtrent bare en innbyrdes kamp i Italia for motstanderen møtte ikke opp i 2014 :D og som du nevner Rösler 5 i 2015...så at vi har færre kampen i denne preseason enn vi pleier er jeg ikke helt med på :)
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 18:41:57
Post by: Asbjørn on July 25, 2016, 18:41:57
Quote from: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 17:56:40
Skal ikke dra det så veldig langt Asbjørn :) men teller du minutter så spiller de gjerne 30 i den ene og 60 i den andre og så 90 i den tredje, blir slik med stor tropp, skal heller ikke være helt bastant men mener å huske SG hadde 5 kamper i 2011 Warnock det samme i 2012, Redfearn det samme i 2013, Hocaday hadde vel omtrent bare en innbyrdes kamp i Italia for motstanderen møtte ikke opp i 2014 :D og som du nevner Rösler 5 i 2015...så at vi har færre kampen i denne preseason enn vi pleier er jeg ikke helt med på :)
Godt mulig du har rett. Jeg baserte meg bare på Hay fra artikkelen under:
Leeds have had four friendlies to date â€" individual players have featured in no more than three â€" and Atalanta at Elland Road this Saturday ends pre-season with a fifth friendly. In the past, United have been known to contest seven or eight.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Cherry on July 25, 2016, 19:12:31
Post by: Cherry on July 25, 2016, 19:12:31
Bra intervju med Peterborough - sjef i YEP.
Blir spurt om hva han synes laget vårt mangler:
En stopper , en med energi på midten og en spiss som kan score 20 mål....
Er vel stort sett d vi utveksler av meninger her om dagen også.
Blir spurt om hva han synes laget vårt mangler:
En stopper , en med energi på midten og en spiss som kan score 20 mål....
Er vel stort sett d vi utveksler av meninger her om dagen også.
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 19:13:46
Post by: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 19:13:46
Må vel nesten stole på Hay men tok en sjekk :)
2009: 7
2010: 6
2011: 6
2012: 7
2013: 8
2014: 8
2015: 6
2009: 7
2010: 6
2011: 6
2012: 7
2013: 8
2014: 8
2015: 6
Title: Sv: Treningskamp: vs Peterborough U @ London Road, lørdag 23/7 2016, kl 16.00, LUTV
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 25, 2016, 19:22:09
Post by: Promotion 2010 on July 25, 2016, 19:22:09
Quote from: Rudi G. on July 25, 2016, 19:13:46
Må vel nesten stole på Hay men tok en sjekk :)
2009: 7
2010: 6
2011: 6
2012: 7
2013: 8
2014: 8
2015: 6
Og i flere av disse kampene har det vært 60/40 og at noen har stått over som mot Guiseley i fjor!
Det betyr vel mellom 4-6 kamper for spillerne vs 3-4 i år!!!
Usikker om det betyr noe! Kanskje fordi vi får inn noen mye denne uken og at de ikke er samspilte med resten.
Bekymringsverdig at ingen av våre beste stoppere har spilt sammen og at 4eren der bak ikke er spilt inn i kamp!