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Title: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: fmtj on November 20, 2007, 11:29:21
Ja...der ser vi, dommeren som ble meldt til FA for banning mot Wise, eller ufin opptreden, ble frikjent. Saken henlagt etter bevisets stilling eller no sånt.... :-X! Disse reglene gjelder ikke for Leeds folk. Der er tilhørighet til klubben bevis nok, da blir en straffet!

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-united-news/Ref-McDermid-cleared-by-FA.3503681.jp
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Sleivind on November 20, 2007, 12:14:04
Selvsagt, hadde vi egentlig trodd noe annet?
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Jon R on November 20, 2007, 12:23:38
Dennis Wise er en løgner!  ::)
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Dennis on November 20, 2007, 12:28:24
Vi bør aldri vente oss tjenester fra FA, FL eller lignende. Jeg tror nok ikke på en heksejakt spesielt mot Leeds, men de gjør oss i alle fall svært få tjenester.

Uansett, bare nynn "15 points, who gives a f**k"-sangen. De kan ikke røre oss!   8)
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: stefan on November 20, 2007, 17:35:14
suprise, suprise.....
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Tom S on November 20, 2007, 18:29:27
MOT

Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Cherry on November 21, 2007, 09:34:59
Dommere er fredet, omtrent som keepere.

Bill mrk "Gammel spiss"
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: arne armoen on November 21, 2007, 11:25:19
Quote from: cherry on November 21, 2007, 09:34:59
Dommere er fredet, omtrent som keepere.

Bill mrk "Gammel spiss"
Pass munnen din!!!
Hilsen "gammel keeper" !
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Jon R on November 21, 2007, 11:29:07
Fotballspillere syter alt for mye over dommerne!!!

Bill mrk " Gammel dommer"
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: RoarG on November 21, 2007, 11:47:35
Dommere har tydeligvis bedre vern enn fredete dyrearter, og Leeds er paria pr. def. hos de "høye og viktige" herrer i FA og FL. Eneste mulighet til å få dommere dømt for den slags som McDermid gjorde må være å gå med avlyttingsutstyr på seg.
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Roy on November 21, 2007, 16:27:20
Litt lettere å få Wise dømt. Der må du ha skylapper og hørselsvern for ikke å få det med  ::)
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Per-Stian on November 21, 2007, 17:29:43
Det burde vere like reglar for dommarar som med spelarar og lagleiarar. Tragisk at mannen skal gå fri dersom han verkeleg har slengt stygge ord til kompisen vår Wise.

Mvh tidlegare dommar
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: veteranen on November 21, 2007, 19:10:29
På vegne av oss som bygget opp landet etter krigen, vil jeg bare si følgende:
Slutt med denne sytingen - og kom dere i arbeid!!!

Mvh
En gammel mann, en som har levd lenge!
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Roy on November 21, 2007, 20:15:52
Quote from: veteranen on November 21, 2007, 19:10:29
På vegne av oss som bygget opp landet etter krigen, vil jeg bare si følgende:
Slutt med denne sytingen - og kom dere i arbeid!!!

Mvh
En gammel mann, en som har levd lenge!

Og der fikk jeg den melodien i hodet: jeg vet en gammel mann... Sier vel også noe om min alder  ;)
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: sportcarl1 on November 21, 2007, 21:03:00
det är skillnad på folk och folk
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: fmtj on November 22, 2007, 14:12:10
Quote from: veteranen on November 21, 2007, 19:10:29
På vegne av oss som bygget opp landet etter krigen, vil jeg bare si følgende:
Slutt med denne sytingen - og kom dere i arbeid!!!

Mvh
En gammel mann, en som har levd lenge!

.....og hva gjør så du på juniorlaget da...hilsen en annen gammel mann som også er på juniorlaget :D
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Erik_ on November 22, 2007, 14:31:53
Quote from: veteranen on November 21, 2007, 19:10:29
På vegne av oss som bygget opp landet etter krigen, vil jeg bare si følgende:
Slutt med denne sytingen - og kom dere i arbeid!!!

Mvh
En gammel mann, en som har levd lenge!
Skulle nesten tro det var en viss innflytelse fra selveste Gerhardsen her. Einar Gerhardsen.
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: veteranen on November 22, 2007, 15:30:06
Quote from: Enrique on November 22, 2007, 14:31:53
Quote from: veteranen on November 21, 2007, 19:10:29
På vegne av oss som bygget opp landet etter krigen, vil jeg bare si følgende:
Slutt med denne sytingen - og kom dere i arbeid!!!

Mvh
En gammel mann, en som har levd lenge!
Skulle nesten tro det var en viss innflytelse fra selveste Gerhardsen her. Einar Gerhardsen.

Spot on, Erik!  ;D

Jeg følte at Einar var med meg i "ånden", da dette ble skrevet.
Samtidig kan jeg heller ikke benekte en sterk høykulturell innflytelse fra den store ordkunstneren Arne Bendiksen!

:D :D :D
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: kjelvi on November 24, 2007, 11:12:23
Leeds United boss blasts double standards

(http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/images/3519913//TH1_E4-2411-32-2411-062425.jpg)
Danny McDermid

Dennis Wise today accused the Football Association of unjustly dismissing his claim that referee Danny McDermid swore at him during Leeds United's game at Gillingham in September.
McDermid was effectively cleared of insulting Wise at Priestfield on September 29 after an independent regulatory commission set up by the FA ruled a charge of using abusive and/or insulting language was "not proven".
Four witnesses are believed to have provided written statements supporting Wise's allegation that the London official told him to "f*** off", but McDermid was given the benefit of the doubt after the commission decided a lack of evidence prevented them from passing a guilty verdict.
Wise, who picked up a three-match ban and a £5,000 fine after admitting swearing at McDermid at half-time of the 1-1 draw, said he was "totally amazed" by the verdict.
And he insisted he had sought no more than an apology from McDermid, who sent off United strikers Tresor Kandol and Jermaine Beckford during the Priestfield fixture.
United's boss, who was present for part of McDermid's five-hour hearing on Monday, said he would have withdrawn his complaint to Soho Square had McDermid agreed to discuss the controversy directly with him.
Wise said: "I wanted Danny to ring me up and to get an apology from him. I wouldn't have taken it any further because it was a spur of the moment thing. But he never bothered to ring me.
"I've read all the statements, and the people who went in there, including the stewards from Gillingham, said that he swore at me. I'm trying to work out why that's not proven.
"They're not saying that he hasn't said it, but they're saying they can't prove it.
"Basically they've made a new ruling which is that if a referee turns round and says he hasn't sworn at you, they'll believe him. If a referee says you've sworn at him, they'll believe him.
"I did say in the meeting that I didn't want the man banned, or never to referee again â€" that wasn't what it was about. There can't be a ruling for them and a ruling for us.
"They spent five hours (at the hearing), and probably had a lot of coffee, a lot of croissants and a lot of chocolate biscuits. It totally amazes me.
"I'd love to give you those statements but unfortunately they're tucked away in a drawer at the FA. I think some of these things need to be shown."
A copy of the findings by the Regulatory Commission, which operates independently of the FA, will be sent to Soho Square, but the governing body confirmed today that the reasons for the ruling will not be made public.
The FA has made no official comment, other than to issue a brief statement confirming the outcome on Monday, but a source at Soho Square denied suggestions that the governing body had set out with an agenda to clear McDermid.
He told the YEP: "The FA is effectively the prosecutor and the investigator â€" we're the ones that brought the charge against Danny McDermid in the first place.
"The charge we attempted to prove was not proven, but we don't act as the judge. The independent commission listened to the evidence and made their ruling accordingly. But their findings will be held in a private document, and they won't be made public."
Wise attempted to contact McDermid ahead of Monday's hearing through Keith Hackett, the general manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Board, and he claimed McDermid's refusal to respond was symptomatic of endemic mistrust between managers and referees.
United's boss said: "There's no rapport because they don't think you can be reasonable. There's no understanding between a referee and a manager, or a referee and a player. It's them against us, and it shouldn't be that way.
"Some of the old school referees would give and take â€" they were good referees who understood the game a lot better. But some don't understand it.
"I helped him (McDermid) out slightly in the meeting because I said that I hadn't gone there to have the man crucified. All I wanted was an apology.
"He hasn't even, out of courtesy, phoned me up and said 'you did okay for me in that hearing'. He thinks I was against him. But who's the one who has come out with the fine? I'll probably get another one now, just for speaking sensibly."
Wise served his three-match suspension â€" including one game carried over from a previous suspended ban â€" during Leeds' recent games against Hereford United, Bury and Swindon Town.
United's boss is not believed to have a right of appeal against Monday's ruling.

YEP
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Jon R on November 24, 2007, 11:34:51
Jeg har full forståelse for at Wise er forbannet og føler seg urettferdig behandlet. Spørsmålet er om det er hensiktsmessig å bruke mye tid og krefter på dette når de sportslige utfordringene står i kø.  :)
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: Asbjørn on November 24, 2007, 12:41:09
Quote from: Jon R on November 24, 2007, 11:34:51
Jeg har full forståelse for at Wise er forbannet og føler seg urettferdig behandlet. Spørsmålet er om det er hensiktsmessig å bruke mye tid og krefter på dette når de sportslige utfordringene står i kø.  :)

Jojo. Men kanskje det er nettopp noe sånt han trenger, en ny "ytre fiende" nå som "minus 15-pfiffen" kanskje er litt oppbrukt...  ::)

Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: fmtj on November 26, 2007, 11:29:23
Quote from: Asbjørn on November 24, 2007, 12:41:09
Quote from: Jon R on November 24, 2007, 11:34:51
Jeg har full forståelse for at Wise er forbannet og føler seg urettferdig behandlet. Spørsmålet er om det er hensiktsmessig å bruke mye tid og krefter på dette når de sportslige utfordringene står i kø.  :)

Jojo. Men kanskje det er nettopp noe sånt han trenger, en ny "ytre fiende" nå som "minus 15-pfiffen" kanskje er litt oppbrukt...  ::)



Javel...så teorien din er at Wisey må ha et eller annet eller noen å være rasende på slik han hatet bringer frem det værste i laget! Tja, kanskje det er noe i det!  :P
Title: Sv: McDermid slapp unna!
Post by: raggen on November 26, 2007, 11:37:52
er jo skremmende hvor mye makt dommere og FA har da når en ser hvor greit de kommer unna med ting