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http://www.leedsunited.com/news/billy-bremner-12-years-on-20091207_2247585_1897515
MOT
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Ny lenke:
https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/8991/billy-bremner-12-years-on
December 7 marks the 12th anniversary...
Billy Bremner statue
December 7 marks the 12th anniversary of the passing of our former captain and manager Billy Bremner.
Billy passed away on December 7, 1997, two days before his 55th birthday after suffering a suspected heart attack, but he will never be forgotten by the legions connected with Leeds United.
"Billy was everything this club is all about," said Eddie Gray, a team-mate of Billy throughout his time at Leeds.
"That's why when you walk out of Elland Road there is a statue of him.
"His spirit lives on with the club and with the fans. The anthem Marching On Together, that was Billy.
"Billy was always so grateful that he had the chance to play for and manage this club.
"He was such a great character and a leader and he just loved playing football. When you think about the goals he scored - he would always pop up in big games just when it was needed. He was inspired.
"You still can't believe he's not here. You thought he would be around forever. He is missed by his old team-mates and by the club.
"People at this football club will never forget Billy Bremner."
Billy made 773 appearances during a 17-year playing career with the club and was the legendary skipper of Don Revie's great Leeds United side.
He lead the club to two Football League titles, and glory in the League Cup, the FA Cup, and the Fairs Cup. He also captained the side in the European Cup final in 1975.
The Scot returned as manager in October 1985 and remained at the helm until late September 1988. During that time his side reached the FA Cup semi-final and came within a whisker of a return to the top division.
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Fy flate kor tida går,kunne like gjerne vært i går denne triste nyheten kom :'(
By the way: min madam har termin på onsdag,hadde vært utrolig stort å fått ett barn 9.desember på Billy`s birthday.....wait and see 8)
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Fy flate kor tida går,kunne like gjerne vært i går denne triste nyheten kom :'(
By the way: min madam har termin på onsdag,hadde vært utrolig stort å fått ett barn 9.desember på Billy`s birthday.....wait and see 8)
Og isåfall er vel navnet gitt allerede?
;D
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BBCs minneprogram:
(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/YqH6ZlKf7T0/default.jpg)
King Billy: Tribute To Billy Bremner 1/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqH6ZlKf7T0
2/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMh1ko_ZS8&feature=related
3/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6-FFJI-Fw8&feature=related
Ballad of Billy Bremner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPYaTcIC_M&feature=related
Billy Bremner: A Tribute To The Leeds United Legend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYS9z_Xhi0M&feature=related
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Fy flate kor tida går,kunne like gjerne vært i går denne triste nyheten kom :'(
By the way: min madam har termin på onsdag,hadde vært utrolig stort å fått ett barn 9.desember på Billy`s birthday.....wait and see 8)
Og isåfall er vel navnet gitt allerede?
;D
...og da tenker du på William John??? :)
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Fy flate kor tida går,kunne like gjerne vært i går denne triste nyheten kom :'(
By the way: min madam har termin på onsdag,hadde vært utrolig stort å fått ett barn 9.desember på Billy`s birthday.....wait and see 8)
Og isåfall er vel navnet gitt allerede?
;D
...og da tenker du på William John??? :)
...som sikkert bare hans egen mor tiltalte ham, eller omtalte ham som...
Nope.
;D
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Fy flate kor tida går,kunne like gjerne vært i går denne triste nyheten kom :'(
By the way: min madam har termin på onsdag,hadde vært utrolig stort å fått ett barn 9.desember på Billy`s birthday.....wait and see 8)
Og isåfall er vel navnet gitt allerede?
;D
...og da tenker du på William John??? :)
Tja, det ville vel passe dårlig om det ble en liten prinsesse da.. ;)
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Fy flate kor tida går,kunne like gjerne vært i går denne triste nyheten kom :'(
By the way: min madam har termin på onsdag,hadde vært utrolig stort å fått ett barn 9.desember på Billy`s birthday.....wait and see 8)
Og isåfall er vel navnet gitt allerede?
;D
...og da tenker du på William John??? :)
Tja, det ville vel passe dårlig om det ble en liten prinsesse da.. ;)
Wilhelmina Johanna?
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Det enkle er ofte det beste.
Billy on det er en gutt, Billie om det er ei jente...
:D
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Det enkle er ofte det beste.
Billy on det er en gutt, Billie om det er ei jente...
:D
Billig...? (Kunne ikke dy meg.. ;) )
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Det enkle er ofte det beste.
Billy on det er en gutt, Billie om det er ei jente...
:D
Billig...? (Kunne ikke dy meg.. ;) )
Fy da... ;D
Mange store kvinner med det navnet; Billie Holiday, Billie Jean King, Billie Miller, Billie Piper.
...og min datters katt, hun heter Billie. Selvsagt etter Leeds' store legende...
;)
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En kvinne blir aldri billig uansett. Det Billigste / Billy`ste er å være singel
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Hehe,mykje bra forslag her ja ;D
Eg vil gjerne kalle en evt sønn William ja,men madammen e ikkje tent på det,i tillegg har eg en kompis(type liverpool supporter) som har kalt sønnen sin William etter en liksom manager legende der borte.
Derimot kan det være en mulighet for David,og Batty er jo det nærmaste vi har vært å få en ny Billy 8)
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Hehe,mykje bra forslag her ja ;D
Eg vil gjerne kalle en evt sønn William ja,men madammen e ikkje tent på det,i tillegg har eg en kompis(type liverpool supporter) som har kalt sønnen sin William etter en liksom manager legende der borte.
Derimot kan det være en mulighet for David,og Batty er jo det nærmaste vi har vært å få en ny Billy 8)
Uansett kjønn eller navn, ønsker dere lykke til, og regner nøkternt med at barnet selvsagt blir oppdratt i den Leedske tro....
;D
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Never forgotten!
MOT
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hallo æ har vært leeds suporter siden 1972 slit enda med tapet dem fikk mot bayern munchen i 1974 eller va det 75 uannsett så va det en meget god kamp der leeds dominerte spillet alt foregikk på tyskeranes banehalvdel Bremner å clarke å lorrimer ga alt men to kontringer sendte yourkshire store sønna heim med tap synd men sånn er fotball.Æg har stor tru på dagens leeds å trur dm spiller mot man u og andre fienda neste sesong.husk ka som skjedde 91-92 dm har samme type spillera no husk strachan,cantona,osv, no har dem mange ukjente gode spillera som kommer til å proffilere sæ i championship SUPER LEEDS sang vi i 1972 vi ska synge den samme sangen om og om igjen.se opp man u here we come
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Oj .. :D
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hallo æ har vært leeds suporter siden 1972 slit enda med tapet dem fikk mot bayern munchen i 1974 eller va det 75 uannsett så va det en meget god kamp der leeds dominerte spillet alt foregikk på tyskeranes banehalvdel Bremner å clarke å lorrimer ga alt men to kontringer sendte yourkshire store sønna heim med tap synd men sånn er fotball.Æg har stor tru på dagens leeds å trur dm spiller mot man u og andre fienda neste sesong.husk ka som skjedde 91-92 dm har samme type spillera no husk strachan,cantona,osv, no har dem mange ukjente gode spillera som kommer til å proffilere sæ i championship SUPER LEEDS sang vi i 1972 vi ska synge den samme sangen om og om igjen.se opp man u here we come
Jeg tenker på, og sliter også fremdeles med den! godt å høre det er fler som meg !!!!!
Fett !!! :)
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Her er vi flere med samme minner, supporter siden cupfinalen i -72 ;D og hvis du legger til cupfinalen (og europacupfinalen) i -73, så er fandenskapet komplett >:(
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Det hadde vært herlig å spise kirsebær med de store igjen. Ingen tvil om det. Dersom Leeds United ikke skulle makte å rykke opp til Premier League denne sesongen, kan det jo være at vi møter Liverpool FC i Championship 2011/2012? Uansett hadde vi hatt bruk for en ny Billy Bremner på midten. Gordon Strachan ble jo hentet fra Scum for £200.000 våren 1989, og plutselig var Billy der igjen. Hvem er det som ligner mest på Billy i spillestil og holdning i dagens fotball? Grayson burde bruke alle transfermidlene på å skaffe seg vedkommende. Et lag uten motor er nesten ingenting.
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Ved siden av Billy Bremner med sin kanonlåt "Loud Music In Cars", så er det vel verdt å nevne at Allan Clarke var med å starte The Hollies på slutten av 60 tallet. Bl a sammen med Graham Nash, senere kjent fra Crosby, Stills & Nash. ( Og etterhvert med Neil Young også) Kanskje tidenes supergruppe.
Barba - Ja, de tjente vel for dårlig på fotballen dengang og måtte gjøre noe ved siden av. He he
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Også Billy Bremner slet med lite spilletid og vantrivsel i begynnelsen av sin Leeds karriere. Han debuterte den 19.januar 1960, mens han våren 1963 ville vekk:
Even a shock transfer request from Billy Bremner could not put a dampener on the Elland Road revival, but it certainly worried Don Revie, who was a big advocate of Bremner's talent and commented: "If he goes, I go, because I want to build a team around him."
Bremner spoke of his reasons for the move: "I told the club I wanted away and that I was not settled in Leeds. I thought it would be different when I was married but it is not so. The club have been all right to me. It is a pity this club was not in Scotland. I feel I can improve my chances of getting a place in the Scotland Under-23 team by moving to Scotland. I think I shall be happier playing my football up there. I have not been really satisfied with my form this season."
Bremner had actually been in and out of the side for some time, suffering with his form, but Leeds were proving that the team was bigger than any single player. They had shown they could cope without Charles, and could do so without Bremner, accepting his request and agreeing to put him on the transfer list. Tommy Henderson had made the right wing berth his own with some impressive displays and United were the form side of the spring, winning game after game and soaring up the table. They continued to have matches in hand on their rivals, and by the end of April they sat on the verge of an unlikely promotion.
Kilde: Mighty Whites
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Lager en egen tråd om Billy Bremner vår fantastiske kaptein. Han ble denne uken kåret til den beste kapteinen i fotballigaens historie. Litt av en prestasjon for legenden som gikk bort så altfor tidlig i 1997.
http://www.thescratchingshed.com/2013/09/thanks-for-voting-bremner-the-football-leagues-greatest-captain/
Etter debuten den 23.januar 1960 var han med i klubbens første storehetstid. Kritisert av noen, hyllet av andre: Billy Bremner var Leeds through and through!
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Billy Bremner fikk også noen år som manager for vårt og hans kjære Leeds United. Høydepunktet var semifinale i FA-cupen og et tap i play-off-finalen i 1987.
http://www.wafll.com/leeds-managers/billy-bremner.html
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Her på forumet er info om Bremner samlet i flere tråder. Noen av dem har jeg lenket inn her:
Billy Bremner - aldri glemt! http://forum.leedsunited.no/index.php/topic,13409.0.html
Billy Bremner http://forum.leedsunited.no/index.php/topic,15140.0.html
The South Stand skifter navn til The Billy Bremner Stand ? http://forum.leedsunited.no/index.php/topic,13570.0.html
Bates vil flytte Bremner statuen http://forum.leedsunited.no/index.php/topic,14327.0.html
Er du enig i at Billy Bremner er tidens Leeds Spiller http://forum.leedsunited.no/index.php/topic,15561.0.html
Billy Bremners skotske landslagsdrakt auksjoneres bort! http://forum.leedsunited.no/index.php/topic,10275.0.html
Sang av Billy Bremner! http://forum.leedsunited.no/index.php/topic,8007.0.html
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bremner
Youtube:
Billy Bremner - a player profile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsWJlD0miHg
Og mer.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lOq3W74vI0
Og mer.... http://www.youtube.com/channel/HCvjTS3jZzuAE
Og til og mer The Mirror har en hyllest til mannen de forsøkte å knekke med usaklige artikler: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/archive/Billy-Bremner-article8319.html
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http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/rip-billy-bremner-trainspotting-author-irvine-welsh-eulogises-a-leeds-legend/?
RIP Billy Bremner: Trainspotting Author Irvine Welsh Eulogises A Leeds Legend
:)
16 år siden han døde!
RIP
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LEGENDE. MOT
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Kåret til historiens beste spiller av fansen:
Leeds United: Bremner voted as club’s greatest by the fans
Updated on the
17 April 2014
Published 17/04/2014 15:25
Billy Bremner has been named in a list of the greatest contributors to clubs’ league history in a vote as part of The Football League’s 125th Anniversary celebrations.
Nearly 100,000 votes were cast in the polls after clubs were first invited to compile their own shortlist for each category based on fans’ nominations via social media.
Fans were asked a range of questions to vote for their team’s best players, favourite captains’ and most successful seasons etc.
What is Leeds United’s best ever match?
Rank Answer Percentage
1 Leeds United 7-0 Southampton (1972) 43%
2 Leeds United 4-5 Liverpool (1991) 17%
3 Leeds United 2-1 Bristol Rovers (2010) 16%
4 Sheffield United 2-3 Leeds United (1992) 15%
5 Bournemouth 0-1 Leeds United (1990) 9%
Who is Leeds United’s best ever captain?
1 Billy Bremner 81%
2 Lucas Radebe 12%
3 Gordon Strachan 7%
When was Leeds United’s best season?
1 1991/92 47%
2 1967/68 31%
3 1989/90 9%
4 2009/10 8%
5 2007/08 5%
Who is Leeds United’s best ever manager?
1 Don Revie 74%
2 Simon Grayson 19%
3 Howard Wilkinson 7%
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-bremner-voted-as-club-s-greatest-by-the-fans-1-6567850
Noe historieløst kan man vel si om noen av valgene, i hvert fall, nedover på denne listen!
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Kåret til historiens beste spiller av fansen:
Leeds United: Bremner voted as club’s greatest by the fans
Updated on the
17 April 2014
Published 17/04/2014 15:25
Billy Bremner has been named in a list of the greatest contributors to clubs’ league history in a vote as part of The Football League’s 125th Anniversary celebrations.
Nearly 100,000 votes were cast in the polls after clubs were first invited to compile their own shortlist for each category based on fans’ nominations via social media.
Fans were asked a range of questions to vote for their team’s best players, favourite captains’ and most successful seasons etc.
What is Leeds United’s best ever match?
Rank Answer Percentage
1 Leeds United 7-0 Southampton (1972) 43%
2 Leeds United 4-5 Liverpool (1991) 17%
3 Leeds United 2-1 Bristol Rovers (2010) 16%
4 Sheffield United 2-3 Leeds United (1992) 15%
5 Bournemouth 0-1 Leeds United (1990) 9%
Who is Leeds United’s best ever captain?
1 Billy Bremner 81%
2 Lucas Radebe 12%
3 Gordon Strachan 7%
When was Leeds United’s best season?
1 1991/92 47%
2 1967/68 31%
3 1989/90 9%
4 2009/10 8%
5 2007/08 5%
Who is Leeds United’s best ever manager?
1 Don Revie 74%
2 Simon Grayson 19%
3 Howard Wilkinson 7%
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-bremner-voted-as-club-s-greatest-by-the-fans-1-6567850
Noe historieløst kan man vel si om noen av valgene, i hvert fall, nedover på denne listen!
2 STREKER!!
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Morsom liten anekdote om Bremners karrierevalg som 17 åring. Og selvsagt Revies kloke valg! ;)
@MartinMarty1974: Article from Shoot Magazine on Leeds Uniteds Billy Bremner on him nearly joining Hibs. http://t.co/WRACLXkcOc
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Respekt. Aldri glemt.
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Billy Bremners kone, Vicky Bremner, i en reklamefilm fra de gode gamle dager:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=OMUndo95dHc
Jommen meg var det WAGs på den tiden også!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAGs
:)
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FA Cup winners: Don Revie and Billy Bremner Why I will raise a glass of barasch to wee Billy Bremner
Jeff Powell
Last updated at 00:00 08 December 1997
THERE is a bar in the old airport at Budapest which has survived the plastic moderni-sation of the terminal building and still reeks of fiery liquor dispensed in a smoke-filled atmosphere of Iron Curtain nostalgia.
The lifestyle police have yet to reach this haven of incorrectness.
It is no more than a hole in the wall, really. Three's a crowd inside the tiny room where the walls are as plastered as the regulars - but with foreign bank notes, the hard currency which the Eastern Europeans once craved as desperately as Billy Bremner yearned for his first cigarette of the day.
It was shortly after 7am one such bleary morning more than a quarter of a century ago that we paused here for a hair of the Hungarian dog and, in Bremner's case, a few hand-rolled strands of tobacco.
Leeds United had been up all night celebrating another famous victory in Europe.
By nature the fetch-and-carry man in midfield, Wee Billy stationed himself between Big Jack Charlton at the counter and myself in the doorway.
I took the orders from the gaggle of players and sports reporters who travel to these occasions, and Bremner conveyed them to Charlton, whose bizarre knack of making himself understood around the world in broad Geordie resulted in the drinks being passed back out to the hun-gover assembly.
A dozen beers, a few glasses of wine, a couple of mineral waters for the fainthearted . . .
and a double barasch for the tall gentleman in the long overcoat propped against the wall.
As he handed over the stained glass with the brown liquid crawling up the inside, Bremner stopped to inhale the fumes and grimaced. When the instant disappearance of Hungary's national liqueur was followed by the polite request for another large one, Bremner whispered: 'Who the hell is that?'
GEOFFREY GREEN of the Times, he was informed. The doyen o f a l l f o o t b a l l e r writers.
Bremner - pugnacious, combative, feisty, irreverent and blunt - was more of a tabloid street man than a broadsheet intellectual. But his first act upon arriving home was to place an order for the Times with his local newsagent. And the newspaper was duly delivered to him - until the day after Green died.
Not that he ever read it, he confided years later. Not once.
Not even when it catalogued the latest League or Cup triumph by Leeds or eulogised his own election to the pantheon of England's Footballers Of The Year.
Each day's copy of the Times remained rolled up on the hall table, his daily memorial to one of the few men who ever out-drank Leeds, home or abroad.
The loyalty burned into this 5ft 5in of fighting-cock foot-baller was as vivid as his mop of curly red hair. So was winning.
The title of Bremner's autobiography was his declaration of football priorities: You Get Nowt For Coming Second.
The gritty burr of Yorkshire pragmatism had been grafted onto the natural-born Scottish warrior - his home town of Stirling borders the battlefield of Bannockburn - from the winter's day in 1959 when he signed professional forms with Leeds.
From that moment hence, Bremner carried the standard for his club and country with passion and a deep-seated sense of family.
For that latter reason alone, the passing of each of these real football men deepens the impression that we may not see their like again.
Bremner not only loved his wife Vicki, his son Billy Jr and his daughters Donna and Amanda but embraced a lifetime devotion to them which could never be threatened by his celebrity.
Even so, he felt just as married to Leeds and just as closely related to his blood brothers in the team.
Bonds as powerful as these are forged in the heart and the soul, not the ego and the pocket.
Loyalty and winning were inseparable to Bremner's instinct; they were not the two distinctly opposite entities which the money-driven world of sport has made them.
It is sadly ironic that a man of such old-fashioned values should die so young. Like England's Bobby Moore, Scotland's Bremner has gone early. At 54.
MOORE died from c a n c e r , f o r n o apparent reason.
B r e m n e r w e n t without warning in hospital yesterday, apparently from the strains imposed on that stout heart by the cigarettes and all the hypertension which furrowed that worn face whenever he stormed into combat.
National icons, both.
Who knows? Perhaps history prefers us to remember our heroes as they are before the ravages of time make too many inroads.
Like the memory of Bremner on another Cold War night in Eastern Europe.
One of those frequent occasions, on and off the pitch, when he made it more a truism than a cliche for his old teammates to chorus yesterday that he would have been the first man they would have wanted alongside them in the trenches.
It was Bremner who, all those years ago, led the charge against the bouncers as we all fought our way, shoulder-to-shoulder, out of a rip-off nightclub . . . fearing only the wrath of Don Revie who was waiting in the hotel lobby.
That was how he played his football.
It was Revie, the Godfather of Elland Road, who recog-nised Bremner's leadership qualities and appointed him not just his captain but his elder son in the football family that was Leeds. As a young man unprepared to rest on the laurels of his exceptional talent, he was the archetypal Revie footballer.
BR E M N E R w o r shipped The Don, never tolerating one word against the man who cajoled and encouraged Leeds to become not only the finest football team in the land but also for a time the most r e v i l e d b u n c h o f a r c h professionals in Europe.
'Yes,' he said once, 'we probably were the most hated players, but we were honest to a man.' What others saw as gamesmanship and intimidation, Bremner and Revie and Charl-ton and the rest regarded as the ultimate in competitiveness. Bremner and John Giles were as ball-skilled and perceptive as any midfield players in Europe at the time.
But although both stood under 5ft 6in in those blue and white socks, only the bravest dared defy them on the field of battle as they won two League Championships, one FA Cup, one League Cup and two European trophies.
It might have been more but for Revie's natural caution. But Bremner was of a different character. In 586 appearances spanning 17 years, he suffered the disgrace of being sent off at Wembley for scrapping with his English counterpart, Kevin Keegan, and wound up with a picture of his famous spat with Scots countryman Dave Mackay occupying a permanent place on the walls at Tottenham's White Hart Lane.
But Revie was his surrogate father, and Bremner never let him nor Leeds down. Nor Scotland, for whom Bremner's more than half a century of appearances were crowned by victory at Wembley in England's first match after their 1966 World Cup victory.
Bremner promptly claimed the championship of the world on behalf of his Wee Blue Devils.
Loyalty and victory. Bremner kept them in the family. That was why he could always smile.
That was why football never stopped loving him when the magic waned during his doomed attempt to follow Revie into the manager's chair and he drifted back to Doncas-ter, back to a life as an after-dinner speaker, local radio commentator and enthusiastic golfer.
He lived to see George Graham begin the revival at his beloved Leeds and was happy for that, too. But he never made it to his 55th birthday tomorrow.
If our own priorities could only have remained as clearly defined and focused as Billy Bremner's, no matter what the pressures and pitfalls of the daily routine, we would all be on the early morning plane to Budapest, there to toast our comrade in life . . . in barasch.
Above: The young Bremner
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-231464/FA-Cup-winners-Don-Revie-Billy-Bremner-Why-I-raise-glass-barasch-wee-Billy-Bremner.html#ixzz3Ti4AQfDW
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LEEDS UTD MEMORIES â€@MartinMarty1974 · 16m16 minutes ago
Leeds United in the not so famous Red shirts take the field against Juventus in the Fairs Cup Final 1st Leg in 1971
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LEEDS UTD MEMORIES â€@MartinMarty1974 · 16m16 minutes ago
Leeds United in the not so famous Red shirts take the field against Juventus in the Fairs Cup Final 1st Leg in 1971
I den kampen som ble spilt to - 2 - ganger! ;)
The match was staged on the evening of Wednesday, 26 May, in Turin's magnificent Stadio Communale. The heavy downpour that started in the afternoon was still in full sway and it was clear that conditions would make play a lottery. Geoffrey Green claimed that "It was really only something of a formal concession to the crowd huddled high up on the steep terraces of the stadium that this match was attempted at all. But the crowd took it all stoically, their banked umbrellas for all the world resembling black mushrooms, sprouting in the rain. Even at the start, wide tracks of water dotted the pitch."
Barry Foster in the Yorkshire Post: "Many had been standing in the heavy downpour for more than an hour before the match had started. The rain which was falling when Leeds arrived in Turin, restarted this afternoon and developed into a fierce thunderstorm as kick off time approached.[/b][/size]
"The ditch separating spectators from the pitch was filled with water. An hour before the kick off, the terraces were a sea of umbrellas and plastic macs. Their owners saw the referee inspect the sodden pitch, on which pools of water were lying, twice before the kick off. At first it was thought unlikely the match would go on. But about 50,000 of the 70,000 capacity were already in the ground.
"Firecrackers exploded on the terraces while groundsmen fought the pitch and eventually the players appeared. It looked impossible to play but postponement promised even more difficult problems.
"The match started on time with Leeds kicking off against the tide and wind. It was soon obvious that the match should never have started. Ground passing was impossible. The ball just stuck as soon as it hit the mud. And it was a bath for the players each time they fell and that was often."
Despite the dreadful conditions, the two teams did what they could to play good football. The hosts had most of the possession and forced two corners in the first three minutes, with Charlton having to concede the first with a headed block to Causio's shot. Then the centre-half was hampered by the pools of water as Anastasi burst through Madeley's attempted tackle, but the striker's resulting shot lacked power.
Lorimer responded for Leeds by letting fly from 35 yards; it was obvious that even the most speculative of efforts had a chance with the conditions making it a nightmare for the two keepers. Clean handling was a distinct challenge, but Gary Sprake quietened growing mutterings regarding his form with a succession of fine saves, first at Capello's feet and then fielding safely after diving to Causio's deflected effort.
After 20 minutes it became clear that Eddie Gray could not continue. A shoulder injury that kept him out of the previous week's Scotland game had been aggravated. He was forced to leave the field with his arm in a sling. Terry Yorath came on to slot into the midfield role he had filled for Wales in that same series of home internationals.
Juventus knew attack was obligatory for them and they continued to do much of the pressing. From one of their assaults, after 22 minutes, they nearly opened the scoring when Anastasi's shot struck Madeley and was nearly deflected into the net. Sprake parried it and when Anastasi got to the loose ball he could only crash it against a post with the goal gaping.
Back came Leeds for Giles to manufacture enough room to fire in an effort from fully 30 yards. The crossbar denied what would have been a tremendous goal in the final dangerous movement of the first period.
The players came out for the second half in fresh new strips, ready to resume battle, but it was clear that playing on would lead to farcical scenes. Within six minutes Dutch referee Laurens van Ravens held an impromptu conference with his linesman and declared the match abandoned, to the relief of most reasonable people.
It was clearly the correct decision, and Juve danced with glee, but Bremner protested angrily. United were halfway to the draw that they sought and understandably disappointed at having to start again.
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En ganske så bra obituary, fra '97:
FA Cup winners: Don Revie and Billy Bremner Why I will raise a glass of barasch to wee Billy Bremner
Jeff Powell
Last updated at 00:00 08 December 1997
THERE is a bar in the old airport at Budapest which has survived the plastic moderni-sation of the terminal building and still reeks of fiery liquor dispensed in a smoke-filled atmosphere of Iron Curtain nostalgia.
The lifestyle police have yet to reach this haven of incorrectness.
It is no more than a hole in the wall, really. Three's a crowd inside the tiny room where the walls are as plastered as the regulars - but with foreign bank notes, the hard currency which the Eastern Europeans once craved as desperately as Billy Bremner yearned for his first cigarette of the day.
It was shortly after 7am one such bleary morning more than a quarter of a century ago that we paused here for a hair of the Hungarian dog and, in Bremner's case, a few hand-rolled strands of tobacco.
Leeds United had been up all night celebrating another famous victory in Europe.
By nature the fetch-and-carry man in midfield, Wee Billy stationed himself between Big Jack Charlton at the counter and myself in the doorway.
I took the orders from the gaggle of players and sports reporters who travel to these occasions, and Bremner conveyed them to Charlton, whose bizarre knack of making himself understood around the world in broad Geordie resulted in the drinks being passed back out to the hun-gover assembly.
A dozen beers, a few glasses of wine, a couple of mineral waters for the fainthearted . . .
and a double barasch for the tall gentleman in the long overcoat propped against the wall.
As he handed over the stained glass with the brown liquid crawling up the inside, Bremner stopped to inhale the fumes and grimaced. When the instant disappearance of Hungary's national liqueur was followed by the polite request for another large one, Bremner whispered: 'Who the hell is that?'
GEOFFREY GREEN of the Times, he was informed. The doyen o f a l l f o o t b a l l e r writers.
Bremner - pugnacious, combative, feisty, irreverent and blunt - was more of a tabloid street man than a broadsheet intellectual. But his first act upon arriving home was to place an order for the Times with his local newsagent. And the newspaper was duly delivered to him - until the day after Green died.
Not that he ever read it, he confided years later. Not once.
Not even when it catalogued the latest League or Cup triumph by Leeds or eulogised his own election to the pantheon of England's Footballers Of The Year.
Each day's copy of the Times remained rolled up on the hall table, his daily memorial to one of the few men who ever out-drank Leeds, home or abroad.
The loyalty burned into this 5ft 5in of fighting-cock foot-baller was as vivid as his mop of curly red hair. So was winning.
The title of Bremner's autobiography was his declaration of football priorities: You Get Nowt For Coming Second.
The gritty burr of Yorkshire pragmatism had been grafted onto the natural-born Scottish warrior - his home town of Stirling borders the battlefield of Bannockburn - from the winter's day in 1959 when he signed professional forms with Leeds.
From that moment hence, Bremner carried the standard for his club and country with passion and a deep-seated sense of family.
For that latter reason alone, the passing of each of these real football men deepens the impression that we may not see their like again.
Bremner not only loved his wife Vicki, his son Billy Jr and his daughters Donna and Amanda but embraced a lifetime devotion to them which could never be threatened by his celebrity.
Even so, he felt just as married to Leeds and just as closely related to his blood brothers in the team.
Bonds as powerful as these are forged in the heart and the soul, not the ego and the pocket.
Loyalty and winning were inseparable to Bremner's instinct; they were not the two distinctly opposite entities which the money-driven world of sport has made them.
It is sadly ironic that a man of such old-fashioned values should die so young. Like England's Bobby Moore, Scotland's Bremner has gone early. At 54.
MOORE died from c a n c e r , f o r n o apparent reason.
B r e m n e r w e n t without warning in hospital yesterday, apparently from the strains imposed on that stout heart by the cigarettes and all the hypertension which furrowed that worn face whenever he stormed into combat.
National icons, both.
Who knows? Perhaps history prefers us to remember our heroes as they are before the ravages of time make too many inroads.
Like the memory of Bremner on another Cold War night in Eastern Europe.
One of those frequent occasions, on and off the pitch, when he made it more a truism than a cliche for his old teammates to chorus yesterday that he would have been the first man they would have wanted alongside them in the trenches.
It was Bremner who, all those years ago, led the charge against the bouncers as we all fought our way, shoulder-to-shoulder, out of a rip-off nightclub . . . fearing only the wrath of Don Revie who was waiting in the hotel lobby.
That was how he played his football.
It was Revie, the Godfather of Elland Road, who recog-nised Bremner's leadership qualities and appointed him not just his captain but his elder son in the football family that was Leeds. As a young man unprepared to rest on the laurels of his exceptional talent, he was the archetypal Revie footballer.
BR E M N E R w o r shipped The Don, never tolerating one word against the man who cajoled and encouraged Leeds to become not only the finest football team in the land but also for a time the most r e v i l e d b u n c h o f a r c h professionals in Europe.
'Yes,' he said once, 'we probably were the most hated players, but we were honest to a man.' What others saw as gamesmanship and intimidation, Bremner and Revie and Charl-ton and the rest regarded as the ultimate in competitiveness. Bremner and John Giles were as ball-skilled and perceptive as any midfield players in Europe at the time.
But although both stood under 5ft 6in in those blue and white socks, only the bravest dared defy them on the field of battle as they won two League Championships, one FA Cup, one League Cup and two European trophies.
It might have been more but for Revie's natural caution. But Bremner was of a different character. In 586 appearances spanning 17 years, he suffered the disgrace of being sent off at Wembley for scrapping with his English counterpart, Kevin Keegan, and wound up with a picture of his famous spat with Scots countryman Dave Mackay occupying a permanent place on the walls at Tottenham's White Hart Lane.
But Revie was his surrogate father, and Bremner never let him nor Leeds down. Nor Scotland, for whom Bremner's more than half a century of appearances were crowned by victory at Wembley in England's first match after their 1966 World Cup victory.
Bremner promptly claimed the championship of the world on behalf of his Wee Blue Devils.
Loyalty and victory. Bremner kept them in the family. That was why he could always smile.
That was why football never stopped loving him when the magic waned during his doomed attempt to follow Revie into the manager's chair and he drifted back to Doncas-ter, back to a life as an after-dinner speaker, local radio commentator and enthusiastic golfer.
He lived to see George Graham begin the revival at his beloved Leeds and was happy for that, too. But he never made it to his 55th birthday tomorrow.
If our own priorities could only have remained as clearly defined and focused as Billy Bremner's, no matter what the pressures and pitfalls of the daily routine, we would all be on the early morning plane to Budapest, there to toast our comrade in life . . . in barasch.
Above: The young Bremner
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-231464/FA-Cup-winners-Don-Revie-Billy-Bremner-Why-I-raise-glass-barasch-wee-Billy-Bremner.html#ixzz3d33nfkzR
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@TheLeedsSalute: Great effort from @tommyt9 and his mates on the weekend, commemorating King Billy. #28billybremners #lufc http://t.co/zAKNw3v27R
:)
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@Brac4773: Dec 97. The players stand for a minutes silence at Chelsea following the death of the great Billy Bremner #lufc http://t.co/5nSqkxdzy8
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@MartinMarty1974: Leeds Utd in the 80s When Billy Bremner Was Sacked By Leeds United https://t.co/brOdyZIGiz
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18 years tomorrow we lost a proper #LeedsLegend. R.I.P. King Billy #lufc
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Et viktig mål av Billy
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I april 1975 gir han Leeds ledelsen i 2-1 kampen mot Barcelona (seminfinale i serievinnercupen)
For meg er det et av hans aller viktigste mål . Billy hadde en fin teft for avslutninger, i tillegg til gode lederegenskaper.
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KONGEN
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Herlig bilde - i en fantastisk drak!
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Et viktig mål av Billy
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I april 1975 gir han Leeds ledelsen i 2-1 kampen mot Barcelona (seminfinale i serievinnercupen)
For meg er det et av hans aller viktigste mål . Billy hadde en fin teft for avslutninger, i tillegg til gode lederegenskaper.
He was the king
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....Billy the king....!!
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Snø i Leeds i går:
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Jeg må innrømme at jeg ikke klarte å å følge så godt med Leeds i div 2 på 80-tallet, da Bremner var manager. Avisene i Norge skrev lite om Leeds, så jeg leste vel bare Shoot av og til, pluss tippestoff. Semifinale og Play off finale (med omkamp) , begge i 1987, er vel det som huskes best. Jeg ser at Leeds slapp inn avgjørende mål i det 87. min (returkamp) og 117 min (omkamp). Vi var derfor meget nær opprykk med Bremner. Det samme kan sies om Wembley-finale, hvor vi tapte semifinalen 2-3 (mål i 99. min i e.o). Hadde en Leeds-trener klart dette idag så ville han blitt en gud for oss!! Jeg mener å huske at Leeds kjempet på øvre halvdel under Bremner hver sesong?
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Noen som vet noe mer om hans trenerkarriere (Bremner som type) og om man kan kalle det en suksess, med basis i hans arbeidsforhold i Leeds.?? Ser at Brødrene Snodin , Haddock og Battey vare "up and coming" på hans tid i Leeds. :)
Noen som vet?
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Får vi tilbake så suksessfulle spillere i klubben?
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Jeg må innrømme at jeg ikke klarte å å følge så godt med Leeds i div 2 på 80-tallet, da Bremner var manager. Avisene i Norge skrev lite om Leeds, så jeg leste vel bare Shoot av og til, pluss tippestoff. Semifinale og Play off finale (med omkamp) , begge i 1987, er vel det som huskes best. Jeg ser at Leeds slapp inn avgjørende mål i det 87. min (returkamp) og 117 min (omkamp). Vi var derfor meget nær opprykk med Bremner. Det samme kan sies om Wembley-finale, hvor vi tapte semifinalen 2-3 (mål i 99. min i e.o). Hadde en Leeds-trener klart dette idag så ville han blitt en gud for oss!! Jeg mener å huske at Leeds kjempet på øvre halvdel under Bremner hver sesong?
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Noen som vet noe mer om hans trenerkarriere (Bremner som type) og om man kan kalle det en suksess, med basis i hans arbeidsforhold i Leeds.?? Ser at Brødrene Snodin , Haddock og Battey vare "up and coming" på hans tid i Leeds. :)
Noen som vet?
Bremner hadde en viss kortsiktig suksess men var i sum en liten katastrofe for klubben sett i retrospektiv. Han gav bort og solgte unna unge talenter som Dennis Irwin, Terry Phelan, John Scales, David Seaman, Andy Linighan, Ian Snodin m fl. for å finansiere kjøp av eldre og stort sett dårligere spillere. Klarte rett nok en 4 og 7 plass men kurven pekte jevnt nedover og det var en lykke for klubben da han ble sparket og erstattet av Wilko i sin tredje sesong. (88-89).
Spilleren Bremner kanskje den største, manageren definitivt ikke...
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Jeg må innrømme at jeg ikke klarte å å følge så godt med Leeds i div 2 på 80-tallet, da Bremner var manager. Avisene i Norge skrev lite om Leeds, så jeg leste vel bare Shoot av og til, pluss tippestoff. Semifinale og Play off finale (med omkamp) , begge i 1987, er vel det som huskes best. Jeg ser at Leeds slapp inn avgjørende mål i det 87. min (returkamp) og 117 min (omkamp). Vi var derfor meget nær opprykk med Bremner. Det samme kan sies om Wembley-finale, hvor vi tapte semifinalen 2-3 (mål i 99. min i e.o). Hadde en Leeds-trener klart dette idag så ville han blitt en gud for oss!! Jeg mener å huske at Leeds kjempet på øvre halvdel under Bremner hver sesong?
(https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M65daa8ec5bf7a534620344a191b560ado0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=187&h=162)
Noen som vet noe mer om hans trenerkarriere (Bremner som type) og om man kan kalle det en suksess, med basis i hans arbeidsforhold i Leeds.?? Ser at Brødrene Snodin , Haddock og Battey vare "up and coming" på hans tid i Leeds. :)
Noen som vet?
Bremner hadde en viss kortsiktig suksess men var i sum en liten katastrofe for klubben sett i retrospektiv. Han gav bort og solgte unna unge talenter som Dennis Irwin, Terry Phelan, John Scales, David Seaman, Andy Linighan, Ian Snodin m fl. for å finansiere kjøp av eldre og stort sett dårligere spillere. Klarte rett nok en 4 og 7 plass men kurven pekte jevnt nedover og det var en lykke for klubben da han ble sparket og erstattet av Wilko i sin tredje sesong. (88-89).
Spilleren Bremner kanskje den største, manageren definitivt ikke...
Sessongen 86-87!! Der hadde vi max uttur.. Billy er Kongen :)
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Billy er nok Kongen i Leeds, men både som spiller og manager ble det veldig mye " nesten" for hans del.
Nesten opprykk (manger)
Nesten cupfinale (manger)
Nesten E-cup vinner (spiller)
Nesten The double (spiller)
Masse 2. plasser/tapte finaler (spiller)
Også som kaptein for Skottland ble det veldig mye "nesten" for landslaget (f.eks VM 1974).
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You're getting nowt for being second! = Bremners valgspråk!
:D
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Men, akk slik skulle det ikke gå. Leeds tapte mot Black Cats i finalen. En kamp jeg så. Var utrolig snurt, husker jeg (dårlig taper).
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Fra Square Ball:
One of the problems we’re facing up to with Bremner Square is that our history has been neglected for so long. Since Billy Bremner’s statue was put in place in 1999, the only significant nod to our greats is the statue of Don Revie added in 2012, plus the two Trust-supported murals this year. But Revie’s statue was entirely fan-led and fan-funded, which was beautiful in its way, but highlighted how little Ken Bates, GFH or Massimo Cellino cared about the history of the club they’d bought. And no, Howard’s Restaurant doesn’t count. I happened to be present for the filming of Leeds United’s season ticket advert in 2015, watching as David Batty, Eddie Gray and Norman Hunter stood chatting together next to Billy’s statue, and Edoardo Cellino, wearing green plastic shades and followed by an entourage of idiots, marched straight past them without a glance. But then, when his dad took over and Dominic Matteo, Peter Lorimer and Eddie Gray’s ambassadorial roles at the club were ended, Edoardo tweeted that “they get paid for doing nothingâ€, so respect for history was never high on his agenda. Besides, he had an eye on the ‘paid for doing nothing’ gig for himself.
Neglecting our past for so long means there is a lot of catching up to do, and that conversations about the merits of one player or another quickly veer into disbelief that Bobby Collins or Jack Charlton or numerous others aren’t publicly acknowledged somewhere at Elland Road already. There’s almost a queue: we can’t talk about Strachan until we’ve done something for Collins. The length of time since anyone was last properly honoured at Elland Road causes the pressure on the club and the fans to vote carefully and get Bremner’s XI right, because not only are we trying to right the wrongs of the past, but we’re trying to get something right for the future.
There have been suggestions that it would be an insult to one player or another if they don’t make it to the Square. That’s an understandable way of looking at it, but awful. There are only ten spaces available, but everybody knows that many more than ten players deserve a place. Our history already encompasses much more than the names honoured at the stadium so far — the Bremner and Revie statues, the John Charles Stand — and our history survives. Johnny Giles, Allan Clarke or David Batty aren’t forgotten because they don’t have monuments now, nor will any important or popular player be forgotten or disrespected if they’re not included in Bremner’s XI. History is not a zero sum, and folklore doesn’t rely on stones or statues. They help, but memories live in stories, not stones.
But I also hope that, given so many former players have such strong claims for this honour, and given the difficulty and unavoidable unfairness of choosing, Bremner’s XI will not be the first, last and only addition to Bremner Square. I’m hoping that the club are seeing this first eleven as a start, and that we’ll be given the opportunity again to choose more players to take their place alongside Billy in an area devoted to our greats.
With ten stones in place after this poll, I’m hoping the club will repeat this as an annual exercise to add, say, three new stones a year, so that the honour is never closed, and we can all relax a little bit if Robert Snodgrass doesn’t make it this time — or if he does. If you like goalkeepers, it’s easier to vote for David Harvey or Gary Sprake this time around, knowing you’ll get chances to vote for John Lukic or Nigel Martyn in the future, and that eventually all four — Martyn probably the best, the other three all medal winners — can be accommodated as appropriate.
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58 år siden debuten til Billy Bremner:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=k1H2olp86FY
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Fant seg ikke helt tilrette den første tiden i Leeds:
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Herlig bilde, men hvilket trofee?
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Messeby cupén (senere UEFA cupén).
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Messeby cupén (senere UEFA cupén).
:D
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Alltid med oss! Keep on Fighting:
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Billy Bremner fan page
Happy birthday Billy, you would have been 76. Thinking of everyone today
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LeedsMe
Happy Birthday to #LUFC Legend Billy Bremner.
772 Appearances
115 Goals
11 Years as Captain
1 Billy Bremner
Rest in Peace King Billy
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Triste meldinger om at Billy Bremner Jr., sønn av vår legendariske kaptein, har gått bort så altfor tidlig. RIP Billy Bremner Jr.
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Triste meldinger om at Billy Bremner Jr., sønn av vår legendariske kaptein, har gått bort så altfor tidlig. RIP Billy Bremner Jr.
Dave Cocker
@Dc03Ker
Tribute to Billy Bremner Jr in a German Newspaper, Billy had been a Golf Pro in Germany for many years, god bless Billy RIP Crying face#lufc
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmZxKbJW4AArLWs?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Dc03Ker/status/1325871568887705601?s=20
(les gjerne twittertråden)
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Triste meldinger om at Billy Bremner Jr., sønn av vår legendariske kaptein, har gått bort så altfor tidlig. RIP Billy Bremner Jr.
Dave Cocker
@Dc03Ker
Tribute to Billy Bremner Jr in a German Newspaper, Billy had been a Golf Pro in Germany for many years, god bless Billy RIP Crying face#lufc
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmZxKbJW4AArLWs?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Dc03Ker/status/1325871568887705601?s=20
(les gjerne twittertråden)
..som snytt ut av nesa på faren..utrolig likhet..
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De aller fleste, i alle fall de som har fulgt Leeds i noen tiår, kjenner til at Bremner mistrivdes i klubben den første tida i Leeds United. Hjemlengselen til Skottland var svært stor. Ikke så mange kjenner til at kun tilfeldigheter gjorde at han ikke ble solgt, og derfor fort kunne ha gjort furore i en annen klubb enn Leeds.
På første side i denne tråden finnes detaljer om at Everton bød £25000 for Bremner, det var vel rundt 1966-1967, og styret i klubben var svært lysten på å cashe inn. Don Revie måtte stille ultimatum om at han også forlot klubben dersom salget ble gjennomført.
Men flere år tidligere, i den tida at hjemlengselen var på sitt verste, bød Hibernian £25000 for Billy. Han var selvfølgelig svært interesser i å komme seg hjem til sitt kjære Skottland. Revie var desperat etter å beholde det store talentet, men styret i klubben ønsket, da også, å styrke økonomien. Da tidsfristen for budet nærmet seg utløp, ga Revie Hibernian beskjed om at intet mindre enn £30000 ville bli akseptert. Han rett og slett gamblet på at beløpet var for høyt for Hibernian. Og gamblingen betalte seg. Skotte-klubben hadde ikke råd til 5000 ekstra og trakk seg også fra det opprinnelige budet.
Leeds kunne fort mistet sin beste spiller gjennom tidene allerede tidlig i karrieren.