LUSCOS
LUSCOS Forum => Ordet er fritt => Emne startet av: auren på August 10, 2020, 21:02:28
-
Velkommen!
https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/26889/joe-gelhardt
auren
-
Gelhardt signeres sannsynligvis for rundt 1 million pund på en 4-årskontrakt.
Striker on joining Leeds United.
New Leeds United striker Joe Gelhardt spoke to LUTV after completing his move to Elland Road from Wigan Athletic.
The 18-year-old has signed a four-year contract with the Whites after joining the Latics for an undisclosed fee.
Gelhardt, who featured 19 times in all competitions for Wigan last season, is thrilled to have completed his move to Elland Road.
“When I heard Leeds were interested I was made up,” said Gelhardt.
“It’s a massive club and going into the Premier League now, hopefully I can kick on as a player and help the team make some very good memories.
“I’ve watched Leeds a few times on television and the side play with a very high intensity and don’t stop working until the 90th minute, I think that suits my style of play and I like working hard.
“I like scoring goals and being creative and I’m not scared to take on an opponent, of course I’ve still got a lot to develop as a player, but Marcelo Bielsa he is a great manager and hopefully I can develop under him.
“I’ve seen a few young players come through the ranks at Leeds, Tom Pearce was at Wigan with me and he told me a lot about the club which helped me a lot and it was a big factor for me.
“As a child you dream of playing in the Premier League, it’s the best league in the world and hopefully I will get the chance to do that this season.
“It’s a proud moment for me and my family, they’ve been pushing me to do it and I wanted to do it, so we’re all really happy it’s done.”
https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/26893/joe-gelhardt-it-s-a-massive-club
auren
-
Focus On Leeds så denne komme så han har forberedt seg :)
https://focusonleeds.com/2020/07/21/joe-gelhardt-why-are-leeds-so-keen-on-the-wigan-forward/
Joe Gelhardt: Why are Leeds so keen on the Wigan forward?
FocusOnLeeds General Football Articles, Leeds United Articles July 21, 2020 4 Minutes
Over the past week Leeds United have been heavily linked with the signing of Joe Gelhardt from Wigan with the club believed to have met with him and his agent yesterday for talks. The Liverpool born Striker who joined Wigan in 2013 made his Wigan debut in April 2019 against Birmingham City and has since gone on to play twenty times for Wigans first team, scoring one goal.
Despite only scoring one goal for the first team, at youth level for Wigan and England he hasn’t struggled to find the net. Across his combined 24 appearances at U16s, U17s, and U18s football for England, he has found the net on eleven occasions (Transfermarkt). His skill set stretches beyond just being a poacher and in fact has played more as a number 10 or a wide player for Wigan. He likes to drop deep in order to find space and then look to pass the ball forward or look to work room for a shot on goal. Below is a great example of him finding space, shifting the ball onto his stronger left foot before finding the top corner.
He is only 5ft 10 and does lack real pace however has a stocky build and is hard to knock off the ball. Physically he is well developed and hasn’t struggled with the demanding conditions of championship football, as the clip below demonstrates.
Not only has he been able to hold his own physically, he’s showed that he’s got a creative side to his game, particularly when working the ball onto his left foot. He does well to roll the challenge here before finding a perfectly waited through ball, highlighting his vision and his strength.
When you combine this with his dribbling ability and positivity on the ball, he’s hard to stop once he gets going. He’s only 18 but shows real confidence when on the pitch, as you can see here against Nottingham Forest. He picks the ball up on the right and his first thought is to drive into the box and wins a penalty for his side.
All the above examples show exactly what Gelhardt is all about. For his age he has a great awareness of what’s around him and does well to bring his team mates into the game. In the 419 minutes he has played this season in the championship, has created 7 chances, completed 16 dribbles (53%) and made 60 accurate passes (67%). You would like to see his passing accuracy be higher but it is a small sample size and there are other aspects like Wigan’s style of play that would influence this. Although these stats aren’t amazing, he does play in a Wigan team that don’t score many and has mainly been used as a sub. If you take a look at his heat map for the season, you can see that despite mainly playing as a secondary striker or as a number 10, he likes to operate in the half space a lot.
2019/20 Season heatmap via SofaScore
The half space is the area he managed to score his only senior goal from. He received the ball, turned really smartly before eventually smashing it past Hull City’s keeper.
In terms of areas for improvement, he’s only 5ft 10 which means that aerial he doesn’t win much and is more of a ball into feet striker, which of course suits Leeds as we don’t play long anyway. He is only 18 so he could still potentially grow, but even if he doesn’t I don’t think its something to be concerned with. Over time he’ll learn to find space away from players rather than directly competing with them. He is also not naturally fast, his acceleration is good but across 30-40 meters not as good. This is something I feel could be improved slightly with a tailored training program as we’ve seen with the first team, who under Bielsa are all 5-10 yards sharper. There are other areas like decision making, positioning and a few Wigan fans have commented that his fitness isn’t the best but all things will get better as he gains more experience.
Despite only playing just under 500 minutes for Wigan, his emergence has brought the attention of a lot of premier league clubs with Liverpool and Everton linked in the past and Leeds and Leicester currently heavily linked. Who ever lands the signature is getting themselves a talented player with a high ceiling at what is looking like a reduce fee due to Wigans finical problems. You would expect that he’d come in as an under 23 player given his little experience, but will train with the first team and look to make a few appearances in cup games or as a sub. I hope you enjoyed this article, its only a brief report as the footage available of Joe is limited. If the deal does happen, then I’ll look to do an updated article after I’ve seen Joe play more games.
Written by Thomas Wilson
@FocusOnLeeds
This website is solely run by one person and is a non profiting website that requires time and money to run. This is along with an active twitter account that posts videos, stats and opinions daily that consumes a lot of time. If any of you guys wish to donate and help support the website/twitter account then you can do here: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=GLEVWSLFD2NK2&source=url
-
Denne signeringen kan jeg like :). Velkommen til klubben skal du være, Joe. Spennende at vi snappet han foran nesa på Merseyside-gigantene. Spilleren er tross alt fra Liverpool.
-
I present to you Lynne Gelhardt, mamma på twitter. Forhåpentligvis mer som mor til Bartley og mindre som mor til Grimes :D :D :D
lynne gelhardt @lynnegelhardt
mother of 2 gorgeous boys Joffy and Daniel
Joffy er altså 'vår Joe Gelhardt' :)
-
Dersom Gelhardt selges i løpet av 3-års perioden er Wigan sikret en 20% videresalgsklausul.
https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletics-sell-clause-joe-gelhardts-leeds-united-deal-revealed-2939269 (https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletics-sell-clause-joe-gelhardts-leeds-united-deal-revealed-2939269)
-
Dersom Gelhardt selges i løpet av 3-års perioden er Wigan sikret en 20% videresalgsklausul.
https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletics-sell-clause-joe-gelhardts-leeds-united-deal-revealed-2939269 (https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletics-sell-clause-joe-gelhardts-leeds-united-deal-revealed-2939269)
Slike klausuler i kontraktene er vel ganske vanlige, og det er jo viktig å ha sjansen til å tjene litt ekstra der det er mulig.
-
'He’s explosive and powerful' - the inside story on Leeds United's Joe Gelhardt from those who know him
The Whites landed the highly-rated forward last month.
By Joe Urquhart Friday, 4th September 2020, 6:00 am
It is due to an unfortunate circumstance at Wigan Athletic that Joe Gelhardt finds himself as a Leeds United player.
The highly-rated 18-year-old had a long list of suitors and a wealth of options to choose from last month, but decided his future was best placed with Leeds United by putting pen to paper on a four-year contract at Elland Road.
The Whites appealed most for a player who saw the bigger picture, selecting a club and head coach known for their reliance and belief in giving youth a chance.
Gelhardt, who joined Wigan at the age of 10, arrived in West Yorkshire with a growing reputation in the game and it hasn’t taken long for those behind the four walls of Thorp Arch to realise why.
The England youth international is just a month into life with Leeds, but is already said to be making a huge impression with his new club.
The forward made his debut for the Latics in August 2018 aged just 16, before taking on a larger role in Paul Cook’s squad last term.
Two starts and 16 substitute appearances followed as the youngster shot to prominence by grabbing his first goal for the club last September against Hull City.
His impact was swift at the KCOM, finding the back of the net three minutes after his introduction to earn his side a hard-fought point.
Those who know ‘Joffy’ say it is a trait he has always possessed; the ability to shock and surprise.
“I remember one junior game against Huddersfield, after 15 minutes, one of the coaches said: ‘Joffy could get 10 here’,” recalled Kenny Williams, Wigan’s head of academy recruitment.
“And he did. We won something like 10-7 and he scored the lot! I’ve still got his boots and shirt from that game, as a nice little memento.
“Their manager came over afterwards and said: ‘We’re actually a good side. He’s some player that lad’.”
Comparisons of Wayne Rooney quickly reared their head as the Liverpool-born striker continued to make a serious impact with his feet in the academy set-up.
“I think it is because he is of similar stature, similar size,” Gregor Rioch, Wigan’s academy manager told the YEP.
“He’s explosive and powerful. He likes to dribble and he can score a range of goals. He can always catch you by surprise and make you put your hand over your mouth in disbelief, so that’s where it probably comes from.
“If you’re going to get the best out of Joe you’ll put him through the middle in some capacity. He likes stretching the opposition, keeping them back.”
It says as much to Gelhardt’s nature that he swiftly donated to Wigan’s fundraising effort, as the club who gave him a footballing platform continue their search for a buyer.
Perhaps, though, it is his character that also provides an explanation as to his quick influence at Leeds.
“He’s not a nervous type of character in the slightest,” Rioch continued.
“He’s a very confident but humble kid. One of the proudest parts of Joe is how we’ve helped develop him as a person.
“He loves playing football. When he finishes training he’s often seen in the park at the back of where he lived playing with his little brother.
“It doesn’t matter whether it’s against Premier League teams or against his brother’s mates, he just loves playing football.
“When you have that as an intrinsic characteristic it’s a great platform to work from.”
Gelhardt has swapped a kick around with his friends and family for the guidance of world-renowned head coach Marcelo Bielsa and Leeds.
He has opted to fulfil his ambitions in LS11, and it seems there is no better fit.
“I think Bielsa has got a reputation and so much experience in different countries,” Rioch added.
“It will be wonderful for Joffy to work with Bielsa and for him to get the best out of him at this age where he still has a lot of learning to do and a lot of growth to come.
“He’s now got to establish himself as a player that has to get more games. That’s going to be his challenge as an 18-year-old. He’s young and the good thing about Leeds United is that they’ve given him a lengthy contract.
“It’s not necessarily about what he does in the next six months, it’s over the period of the next three to four years.
“He’s had a great foundation from Paul Cook at Wigan and that next step for him is to play against better players which will be fantastic for him.
“He’ll embrace it and take it in his stride. Leeds is a fantastic football club. It’s a giant and it’s back where it belongs.
"Over the years you only have to look down the corridors at the training ground to see the players who have come through. The way they have developed players over the years has been incredible.
“He goes with our blessing because he has been an incredible player for us and we’ll always keep an eye out for him.”
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/hes-explosive-and-powerful-inside-story-leeds-uniteds-joe-gelhardt-those-who-know-him-2961119
-
Pope twitrer at han har hørt at Gelhardt ikke er skadet.
Da er covid det neste sannsynlige alternativet (all den tid man vet at klubben ikke kommenterer slike saker)...
Han har likevel vært borte så lenge at han kanskje kan klare neste U23-kamp?
https://motleedsnews.com/players/im-told-adam-pope-delivers-update-on-joe-gelhardt-after-striker-missing-since-christmas/
-
Paradoksalt nok er dette godt å lese...
Lufcyouth
@leedsutdacademy
According to @footyinsider247 Leeds United have rejected multiple loan approaches from Championship clubs for Joe Gelhardt, with manager Marcelo Bielsa insistent the 18 year old attacker continues his development at Thorp Arch
Fra å ha spilt (med suksess) for Wigan i Championship til aldri å ha vært i kamptropp for a-laget til Leeds (unntaket var vel ligacupen i høst) - jeg vil tro det er skuffende for Joffy.
Riktignok er det vel skade el lignende som har gjort at han har vært ute av bildet i det siste. Men jeg ser for meg at han føler seg klar for høyere nivå enn U23-2.divisjonsfotball...
Hadde bare Joffy fått INNPASS blant de store gutta :o
(Ja jeg vet at han trener masse sammen med de...)
-
Joffy var endelig på benken i forrige kamp.
Dette er en reportasje som er vanskelig å plassere, det handler om Greenwood såvel som Pablo, men mest om Joffy. Så here goes...
Bielsas tanker rundt Joseph Paul Gelhardt.
Pablo Hernandez' latest injury reveals where Marcelo Bielsa sees 'dangerous' Joe Gelhardt in Leeds United pecking order
Pablo Hernandez’ latest injury has revealed where Marcelo Bielsa sees Joe Gelhardt in the Leeds United pecking order.
By Graham Smyth Tuesday, 9th February 2021, 4:44 pm
When the Spanish magician fell victim to a minor muscle problem in the Whites’ final football session in preparation for the visit of Crystal Palace, Bielsa turned to 18-year-old Gelhardt to give him the required attacking options on the bench.
It was the former Wigan Athletic youngster’s first involvement in a Premier League squad and came on the back of another impressive Under-23s display a day earlier.
Gelhardt scored two to help Mark Jackson’s side beat their Middlesbrough counterparts 4-2 and took his Premier League 2 tally for the season to seven. But his performances in the 23s before Sunday’s win had already impressed Bielsa.
“Prior to the game [on Sunday] he had been one of the better players in the 23s,” said the head coach, who revealed that Jackson suggested Gelhardt for Monday’s squad.
“Given the absence of Pablo, Tyler could play as a number 10 or as a striker and the same for Gelhardt.
“I follow every 23s game closely and we constantly ask for advice from their manager.
“He suggested we think of Gelhardt and we thought it was a correct recommendation.”
Gelhardt was signed last summer from Wigan having already tasted men’s football with the Latics, playing 19 times in the Championship and making FA Cup and EFL Cup debuts during Paul Cook’s tenure at the DW Stadium.
First team opportunities had eluded the England youth international at Elland Road until this week but Bielsa had previously spoken of his progress, along with fellow new boy and friend Sam Greenwood.
“They have been playing well to deserve minutes,” he said earlier in the season after Greenwood and a number of 23s prospects were involved in the FA Cup game at Crawley.
Since their arrival last summer Gelhardt and Greenwood have both caught the imagination of fans and pundits alike with their performances up front and in attacking midfield for Jackson’s 23s.
Bielsa considers them interchangeable in the forward positions.
“Gelhardt is a player who when he is close to the box he is very dangerous and Greenwood is a player who has a lot of capacity to arrive into the free spaces,” he said in December.
“They can play with either Gelhardt in front and Greenwood in behind or the other way around.”
Hernandez' injury is not a serious one and Bielsa said his omission from the squad was precautionary.
"Pablo in the last football session we had picked up a minor muscular injury," said the Argentine.
"Although the injury was only a minor one it was better he didn't play today as a precaution."
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/pablo-hernandez-latest-injury-reveals-where-marcelo-bielsa-sees-dangerous-joe-gelhardt-leeds-united-pecking-order-3129458
-
Hay's done it again
https://theathletic.co.uk/2383702/2021/02/18/greenwood-and-gelhardt-two-friends-fighting-it-out-to-make-it-as-leeds-no-9/
The problem with Gelhardt at Wigan was that he never caused a problem. He excelled at every age level and, in the words of Wigan’s former coach Nick Chadwick, “he never failed to affect a game”. There were goals, there were assists and there was nothing in the way of a noticeable dip in his form. Wigan’s staff wondered how best to teach Gelhardt about managing adversity because adversity did not seem to find him.
-
Når får vi se denne gutten i aksjon?! Var jo bombesikker på at Bogusz skulle være en del av førstelaget nå... han er utlånt. Håper ikke det samme skjer med Joffy. Vi trenger freske folk i 10er rollen.
-
Gelhardt "blown away" av Bielsa. Sistnevntes treningsmetoder han fått Mr. Gelhardt ned i vekt. Håper vi snart får se han på banen.
https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/leeds-united-news/leeds-united-phil-hay-marcelo-bielsa-joe-gelhardt-victor-orta-transfer-wigan-elland-road-premier-league-academy-news-update/ (https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/leeds-united-news/leeds-united-phil-hay-marcelo-bielsa-joe-gelhardt-victor-orta-transfer-wigan-elland-road-premier-league-academy-news-update/)
-
Når får vi se denne gutten i aksjon?! Var jo bombesikker på at Bogusz skulle være en del av førstelaget nå... han er utlånt. Håper ikke det samme skjer med Joffy. Vi trenger freske folk i 10er rollen.
Tror Bogusz skal være glad for utlån. Spiller jevnlig på et høyere nivå enn u23. Å sitte på benken på førstelaget blir man ikke god av. Han er 2 år yngre enn Shack, så Bogusz får nok sjansen.
-
Lufcyouth
@leedsutdacademy
🗣Patrick Bamford on Joe Gelhardt:
“Joffy is going to be good, he reminds me, I don’t want to say the same level of Rooney, but he’s the same sort of build that Rooney was, a stocky lad, great finisher.” #LUFC
-
Joffy er blandt de nominerte til månedens spiller i PL2.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/2081150
Debuterer med scoring mot shitty? 8)
-
Denne greia fra Thorp Arch har gått rundene på twitter siste dagene :)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1380038872688697344
-
Denne greia fra Thorp Arch har gått rundene på twitter siste dagene :)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1380038872688697344
Og så fra midtstreken, gitt! :o
-
Nå NITTEN :)
Det gratuleres.
-
Wow, Skrill har fått Joffy i tale! :)
Joe Gelhardt reveals Marcelo Bielsa pep talk on where he can improve
Joe Gelhardt has designs on becoming a first-team squad regular for Leeds United next season and the talented forward has opened up on the conversations he has held with Marcelo Bielsa over how he can continue to improve.
Gelhardt has had exposure with the seniors this season after an excellent first season with the club's U23s and he revealed a conversation with Bielsa as the Leeds boss encouraged the youngster to start making more runs in behind opposition defences to improve his chances of getting even more action next term.
"I'm a player who likes to get on the ball, drop low, and try to dribble past a player," he told Skrill, partners of the football club.
"What the manager's told me is I need to add more in-behind runs to my game – short, sharp, and more sprints.
"I've tried to take that on board as much as I can, and I've tried to implement it. He's a great manager with young players so everything he says you've got to take it on board."
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-news-gelhardt-bielsa-20653643
-
Fantastisk om han mener det!
Adam Pope
@apopey
"It was a tough step up"
Leeds United striker Joe Gelhardt says it was a productive 1st year with the U23s after moving from Wigan Athletic.
https://bbc.in/3qR01IH #lufc #bbcfootball
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5nh9FVXEAEzjP-?format=jpg&name=large)
-
Fantastisk om han mener det!
Adam Pope
@apopey
"It was a tough step up"
Leeds United striker Joe Gelhardt says it was a productive 1st year with the U23s after moving from Wigan Athletic.
https://bbc.in/3qR01IH #lufc #bbcfootball
Må si eg LIKER ydmykheten han fremviser... (bare ikke på banen :D )
LUFC Academy Central
@LUFCacademynews
Second interview with Joffy I've heard and I've been really impressed by how well he speaks both times.
Spoke about how much he's learned under the 'genius' Bielsa, training with the first team, being patient for his first team chance and feeling sharp ahead of the new season.
-
Fantastisk om han mener det!
Adam Pope
@apopey
"It was a tough step up"
Leeds United striker Joe Gelhardt says it was a productive 1st year with the U23s after moving from Wigan Athletic.
https://bbc.in/3qR01IH #lufc #bbcfootball
Må si eg LIKER ydmykheten han fremviser... (bare ikke på banen :D )
LUFC Academy Central
@LUFCacademynews
Second interview with Joffy I've heard and I've been really impressed by how well he speaks both times.
Spoke about how much he's learned under the 'genius' Bielsa, training with the first team, being patient for his first team chance and feeling sharp ahead of the new season.
Han får nok sine muligheter i år
-
Fantastisk om han mener det!
Adam Pope
@apopey
"It was a tough step up"
Leeds United striker Joe Gelhardt says it was a productive 1st year with the U23s after moving from Wigan Athletic.
https://bbc.in/3qR01IH #lufc #bbcfootball
Må si eg LIKER ydmykheten han fremviser... (bare ikke på banen :D )
LUFC Academy Central
@LUFCacademynews
Second interview with Joffy I've heard and I've been really impressed by how well he speaks both times.
Spoke about how much he's learned under the 'genius' Bielsa, training with the first team, being patient for his first team chance and feeling sharp ahead of the new season.
Han får nok sine muligheter i år
Jeg håper Joffy er grunnen til at klubben/Bielsa ikke stresser med å finne en skikkelig 10er.
-
Endelig har Smyth fått kloa i en av spillerne og fått til et lengre intervju! :)
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/i-lost-about-eight-kilograms-leeds-united-prospect-joe-gelhardt-on-dramatic-changes-marcelo-bielsas-genius-and-next-season-3301490
Heldigvis er det en godt fornøyd 8 kilo lettere enn da han ankom Joffy vi møter, som innser det blir mest U23-fotball også kommende sesong
He's excited for what's to come in the Premier League 2 top tier and what might follow, if his hard work, changes and learning continues.
"I can't wait to be fair, taking on the best teams in England at our age group," he said.
"I think we'll hold our own and I think we should do well.
"With a bit of hard work, hopefully [I'll make a debut]. If I keep my head down, knuckle down and be patient and if I impress the manager, do well in the sessions and I'm fit enough, then hopefully.
"That's the aim isn't it? Maybe a few times on the bench, and to make a debut would be a kid's dream wouldn't it?"
-
Bare for å vise at familien Gelhardt, Joffy har vært i Wigan siden han var ti...
Men nå er det Leeds som gjelder, her har vi mamma Joffy
https://twitter.com/lynnegelhardt/status/1414158829361713153?s=20
-
England U20 med 4 Leeds-spillere knuste Romania idag med 6-1 og Gelhardt scoret to etter å ha kommet inn fra benken. Dette er et klart styrketegn for akademiet i Leeds, selv om ikke alle har gått trinnene i vår klubb. Vi tiltrekker oss talenter - det er oppløftende for fremtiden, og noen av disse vil nok få teste seg på førstelaget forhåpentligvis etterhvert. På U21 landslaget er Charlie Cresswell vår representant.
-
England U20 med 4 Leeds-spillere knuste Romania idag med 6-1 og Gelhardt scoret to etter å ha kommet inn fra benken. Dette er et klart styrketegn for akademiet i Leeds, selv om ikke alle har gått trinnene i vår klubb. Vi tiltrekker oss talenter - det er oppløftende for fremtiden, og noen av disse vil nok få teste seg på førstelaget forhåpentligvis etterhvert. På U21 landslaget er Charlie Cresswell vår representant.
Scoret han ikke tre?
Sent fra min YAL-L21 via Tapatalk
-
England U20 med 4 Leeds-spillere knuste Romania idag med 6-1 og Gelhardt scoret to etter å ha kommet inn fra benken. Dette er et klart styrketegn for akademiet i Leeds, selv om ikke alle har gått trinnene i vår klubb. Vi tiltrekker oss talenter - det er oppløftende for fremtiden, og noen av disse vil nok få teste seg på førstelaget forhåpentligvis etterhvert. På U21 landslaget er Charlie Cresswell vår representant.
Scoret han ikke tre?
Han ble fratatt sitt første, dvs en annen fikk det målet litt senere.
Til gjengjeld avsluttet han kampen som kaptein - i debuten sin. :)
-
Nydelig piece om Joffy i gode gamle Goal (vel, en nettutgave av samme navn...).
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/joe-gelhardt-leeds-teenage-goal-machine-rooney/1q83o7oxxsam51ucpb4bm57zkz
-
Haha, Phil Hay skjønte det egentlige spørsmålet han, det skal han ha :D :D :D
Under en Q&A på The Athletic:
Do you think Joffy will earn a full England call-up before being given his PL debut for Leeds? (Asbjorn S)
Ha. Another way of saying, why isn’t Gelhardt getting a proper go? It’s only a matter of time with him. The chance will come. On a bit of a tangent, I noticed something about Bailey Peacock-Farrell during the summer. Before this season, his international appearances were only just under 50 per cent of his league appearances. Which must be quite unusual for a player who had played 23 times for his country.
-
Kan vel like gjernposte denne her for evigheten. Første PL intervju med JG. Måtte vi se han smilende slik mange ganger. Han responderte idag. Mot en mostander som ble sliten så tok han ansvar, viste besluttsomhet, skapte energi og bidra sterkt til å snu kampen. Elsker slike avslutninger som idag. Er sikker på at Ayling, Bamford, Phillips, Koch, Firpo og alle som er ute ble skikkelig motivert av dette, og når de alle er tilbake - da får vi etterhvert gode perioder og sanker poeng ! Er sikker på at mamma`n til Joey lager noe godt ikveld !
https://twitter.com/i/status/1451947403897196548
-
Kan vel like gjernposte denne her for evigheten. Første PL intervju med JG. Måtte vi se han smilende slik mange ganger. Han responderte idag. Mot en mostander som ble sliten så tok han ansvar, viste besluttsomhet, skapte energi og bidra sterkt til å snu kampen. Elsker slike avslutninger som idag. Er sikker på at Ayling, Bamford, Phillips, Koch, Firpo og alle som er ute ble skikkelig motivert av dette, og når de alle er tilbake - da får vi etterhvert gode perioder og sanker poeng ! Er sikker på at mamma`n til Joey lager noe godt ikveld !
https://twitter.com/i/status/1451947403897196548
Herlig intervju.
-
LUTVs U23-kommentator vet at han nå ikke lenger vil få kommentere 'sin mann' :D :D :D
Han har nok rett i det.
Thomas Hill
@Hilly15
I’ll miss commentating on Gelhardt. It was a fantastic experience Rolling on the floor laughingRolling on the floor laughing. I can now watch him from the stands and chuckle as he makes defenders look stupid. Great impact from the bench, also thought Rodrigo and Dallas were fantastic in the 2nd half. #LUFC
-
Personlig er jeg litt reservert til unge spillere. Synes ofte de blir hypet for mye.
Denne gutten har noe spesielt over seg. 1 ting er forståelsen og ferdighetene, men mentaliteten er ytterst sjelden. Man vokser i takt med trøkket fra omgivelsene.
Hva kan vi forvente her?
Jeg mener at han ganske fort kan pushe for en fast rolle i 11eren.
-
Geldhard er det nærmeste vi har hatt hvis vi sammenligner med Allan Smith. Dette lover bra.
-
Bielsa har uttalt at han ser på de etablerte proffene om når en unggutt er klar. Om de vil ha ham på laget på trening, bruker ham i samspill osv - det er et tegn på at unggutten er klar.
Vel, her er Bamford om Joffy (fra podcasten)
Bamford details Gelhardt message
Patrick Bamford has praised Joe Gelhardt and called him ‘a little Wayne Rooney’ after the youngster rescued a point for Leeds last week.
Nineteen-year-old Gelhardt came on as a substitute last weekend with Leeds United 1-0 down to Wolves. He then weaved his way into the box and was brought down by Nelson Semedo, earning Leeds a penalty which was scored by Rodrigo, drawing the match 1-1.
Asked about Gelhardt’s performance, striker Patrick Bamford, who has been out injured this month, praised the Leeds United youngster, nicknamed Joffy, for saving Leeds a point.
Bamford told the Official Leeds United Podcast: “He was like a little Wayne Rooney, and he is good. He’s very good. And he showed there what he can do.”
Bamford then added: “He’s built like a 26-year-old but obviously look at him in the face, he’s got a little baby face, but he’s going to be good and he's so unassuming as well.
“The only thing is, I did text him after and said obviously, ‘Well done, really well done,’ and I said, ‘You should have bloody scored two though.’”
Asked about Gelhardt’s seeming lack of nerves despite his age, Bamford said: “When you put a young player in it can either go one of two ways can’t it. They either go into their shell and they’re scared to do what they do or they just go in and they’re not worried about the outside pressure.”
You can listen to the whole interview here.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/just-ask-pat/id1544990227?i=1000539941146
-
Phil Hay har grundig tatt for seg Joffys utvikling.
https://theathletic.co.uk/2911445/2021/10/28/leeds-plan-to-get-joe-gelhardt-ready-for-first-team-football-is-nearing-completion/
-
Da har Joffy fått sin første start.
Noen mener han var god, andre at han ikke fikk utrettet stort.
Begge sider har vel litt rett. Det var ikke en kamp der det var lett for en spiss å være god, samtidig så man eksempel på Joffys klasse.
Leeds-Live viser her til en annen side av Joffys arbeidsinnsats i kampen, han må ha lært av Lord Pat.
Bielsa will have noticed the arcing of Gelhardt's runs as he attempted to block off Spurs' passing lanes, whilst pressing his opponent.
They were identical to the sleuth-like runs Bamford executes multiple times per game, stalking and pressing centre-backs by approaching them from their blind side.
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/joe-gelhardt-leeds-united-bielsa-22232422
In the 52nd minute at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, spurred on by the travelling Leeds support, he too attempted to alleviate the pressure the Whites were facing early in the second half, by single-handedly hassling Spurs into playing all the way back to Hugo Lloris.
He was roundly applauded.
Og statistikken var bra:
Gelhardt finished the game as the most prolific ball-carrier on the field, completing five of his seven attempted dribbles. Fifty-percent of his attempts were on target, too, including one effort which stung the palms of Lloris.
-
Tony Dorigo priser Gelhardt. Mener han bidro med mye mot Spurs, men kanskje litt vel mye. Også lagkamerat Liam Cooper priser Gelhardt, mener han er et naturlig ledertalent. Cooper roser også Struijk og Cresswell for å være gode ledertyper.
https://insidefutbol.com/2021/11/24/he-was-doing-a-bit-too-much-leeds-united-legend-assesses-starlets-display/538007/ (https://insidefutbol.com/2021/11/24/he-was-doing-a-bit-too-much-leeds-united-legend-assesses-starlets-display/538007/)
https://motleedsnews.com/news/leeds-united-have-got-three-talents-with-leadership-qualities-cooper/ (https://motleedsnews.com/news/leeds-united-have-got-three-talents-with-leadership-qualities-cooper/)
-
Ting har forandret seg for Joffy siden forrige post i tråden.
For tiden er det kun skader som hindrer ham i å spille.
Her reflekterer han over tiden i Leeds så langt (hentet fra en podcast)
Joe Gelhardt loving life at Leeds United as teen reflects on journey so far and future ambitions
Joe Gelhardt had big reservations about Elland Road upon his first steps inside Leeds United’s famous ground as a player.
By Lee Sobot Saturday, 16th April 2022, 4:45 am
In a Championship clash of February 2020, a 17-year-old Gelhardt was on the Wigan Athletic bench and the teenage forward was more than happy to stay there.
Gelhardt explained: “It’s the only one game where I’ve thought, ‘I don’t want to come on here’ because it was absolutely rocking.”
The striker didn’t come on but Wigan Athletic still won although it didn’t stop the Latics from going down and the Whites from going up as champions.
Then, come the summer, Gelhardt became a Leeds United player.
Two years on from wanting to stay on the Wigan bench, the irony is that Leeds United’s fans are now continually calling for the teen to be brought off the Whites one.
Times have certainly changed for the 19-year-old forward who is loving every minute of life at Leeds and now warmly embraces the motivational Elland Road roar.
Casting his mind back to before his Whites move had even materialised, Gelhardt told the YEP: “The first time I went to Elland Road I was playing against them and that’s when I first experienced the atmosphere.
“I was like, ‘Oh my God!’
“I’ve told a few of the lads, it’s the only one game where I’ve thought, ‘I don’t want to come on here’ because it was absolutely rocking.
“But when I made my Leeds debut at Elland Road, the noise was just crazy.
"It can be like a 12th man and you don’t get tired when they’re roaring and you just want to please them as much as possible.
“You hear them and they are roaring when you come on, there was one game where I was like, ‘Oh my God, these fans are crazy!’
“All it does is help you when you’re on the pitch.
"You don’t get tired, you want to run that extra yard for them, you want to do more for them so they’re happy and they can enjoy their weekend if we get a good result.
“I know people say, ‘the fans helped us,’ like as a cliche but with these fans they really do.
“When they’re screaming at the end of a game you’re just pushing and pushing and you just want to score or get a goal to make them happy as much as possible.”
Twice already this season at Elland Road, Gelhardt has done exactly that after being brought on from the Whites bench.
On his home and Premier League debut, the striker was introduced as a 62nd-minute substitute by former boss Marcelo Bielsa in October’s hosting of Wolves and the teen capped an explosive display by winning a 90th-minute penalty.
Record signing Rodrigo converted the spot kick to seal a last gasp 1-1 draw and send Elland Road wild and Gelhardt then bagged his first goal for Leeds two months later when netting what looked set to be an 83rd-minute equaliser at Chelsea only for the Blues to take all three points through Jorginho’s late penalty.
But Gelhardt then sparked scenes of a different level entirely another three months on via his first goal at Elland Road as part of an epic afternoon at LS11.
By then, Leeds were under the care of new boss Jesse Marsch following the sacking of promotion winning hero Bielsa and Marsch’s relegation-battling side looked to have thrown away two precious points as Kenny McLean bagged a 91st-minute leveller for bottom of the table Norwich City.
But Gelhardt had other ideas, the teen winning a header on the halfway line to set Raphinha away down the right and then racing into the box to convert his cross for the most dramatic of late winners in the 94th minute.
Elland Road truly erupted and even now the young forward is struggling to comprehend quite what went on.
“I can’t remember it!” he smiled.
“When something happens like that, like even against Chelsea when I scored, I can’t remember it. It’s just a blur.
“I remember heading it but I didn’t look at the ball, I was just looking at the man and then it came off my head and I was like ‘oh my God.’
“Then I saw Rapha and I thought he was going to score so I didn’t move and then he took it round and I thought ‘God I am going to have to get in the box now’ and then the rest from there was just a blur, I can’t remember it!”
Gelhardt, though, is creating memories that will last a lifetime and the teen is keeping himself firmly grounded around all the hype.
The Liverpool-born forward had already been compared to a young Wayne Rooney before signing for Leeds and the teen’s superb performances for United’s under-23s since joining have created a clamour for the striker to be given more minutes for the first team and now starts.
In February, FourFourTwo Magazine then named Gelhardt as the 33rd most exciting teenager in world football as part of a list topped by Borussia Dortmund’s England international teenager Jude Bellingham.
At just 18 years of age, Bellingham incredibly already has 12 senior caps to his name but Gelhardt’s youth international progress is impressive in its own right, the Leeds striker having netted for his country at under-16s, 17s, 18s and 20s level and making the under-21s squad for the first time last October.
The forward’s recent progress has been slightly held back by recent small injury niggles and a false positive Covid test but Gelhardt recently returned to full training and the teen is eyeing a strong end to the campaign.
Thereafter, the striker known affectionately as Joffy has a relaxed approach when it comes to his future ambitions and in any case his exceptional explosive talent will more than take care of those.
“I just take it as it comes,” said the teenage striker, asked about his long term goals and the obvious dream of playing for England.
“I don’t try and pressure myself too much and I just take it day by day and see how stuff goes.
"But I think every kid when they dream if they want to be a footballer they want to play for England, they want to represent their country so I think that’s a goal of everyone to be fair.”
Pausing to assess his journey so far as his 20th birthday looms next month, Gelhardt reasoned: “I think from when I joined Leeds I think my time has gone quite quick.
“It felt like a few weeks ago when I joined so that’s a positive that has gone quick.
“I have enjoyed all of my time and I’m coming up to 20 now. It’s gone quickly.
"Even from when I broke into Wigan’s team when I was like 17 it has just gone in a flash so I want to try and savour every moment.
“I have enjoyed every minute that I have been at Leeds and that was my goal, to play in the Premier League for them and that’s happened more this season.
"I have got a bit unfortunate with my injuries recently but that happens in football, you have just got to get over it and I have got to try and keep myself fresh for the next few games and the big run in.”
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/joe-gelhardt-loving-life-at-leeds-united-as-teen-reflects-on-journey-so-far-and-future-ambitions-3656852
-
Her skrives det om Joffy og Gelhardts vennskap...
Det startet på Englands U16, der begge ble tatt ut som spisser. Den ene fra Sunderland, den andre fra Liverpool.
Gelhardt and Greenwood's Inbetweeners ribbing sums up pair dying to be Leeds United's next frontline
Joe Gelhardt and Sam Greenwood are inseparable to the point Leeds United team-mates and club staff find it odd when they are seen apart yet it has all the hallmarks of a vital partnership for the Whites on the field
By Beren Cross Leeds United club writer 19:28, 16 APR 2022
Jay’s West Ham United trials and football friend may have bent the truth in The Inbetweeners, but the ribbing Joe Gelhardt and Sam Greenwood get for their connection at the hip is built on rock-solid foundations. The Leeds United pair met on international duty with England several years ago and slowly watched their stories come together in a joint arrival at Elland Road in the same 2020 summer transfer window.
Barely four months separate their ages and 2021/22 seems to be the year they will both look back on as the campaign they properly broke into senior professional football. While Gelhardt has taken the bulk of the headlines with his goals, assists and match-saving cameos, Greenwood is slowly but surely coming onto the radar with an immense amount of faith from Jesse Marsch at his back.
Greenwood was central to United’s second and third goals at Watford last weekend with an impact which legitimately puts him in the conversation for match-changing turns down the home stretch. Those watching closely will have seen the affection they have for each other.
The first man onto the pitch after full-time to celebrate Gelhardt’s maiden goal at Stamford Bridge was Greenwood, while Gelhardt could not wipe the grin off his face as he raced out to be with his old pal last weekend following the final whistle. They are inseparable off the pitch too, much to the amusement of team-mates and club staff alike.
“We’ve got a really good relationship off the field,” said Gelhardt. “We’re always together and when we’re walking down people will say ‘ooo friends’ and take the mick out of us. We just get on well together and on the pitch, we’re always looking for each other and passing to each other and helping each other out and trying to score goals together, really.”
Stepping into a mainstream global competition like the Premier League can be an overawing experience for a young footballer, but it’s made all the more special by sharing the experience with one another. Gelhardt said: “To be exposed to [the] first team in the Premier League with someone you’ve known for years, me and Sam knew each other from England four years ago, we’ve been mates for a long time and then to play in the Premier League together or see each other doing well is an unbelievable feeling.”
As is so often the way in modern football, the youngsters cut their teeth in Leeds white with cup debuts. Greenwood even made his on a forgettable, disastrous day at Crawley Town in the FA Cup last season, while Gelhardt had to wait.
Anticipation was almost at fever pitch when the teenager eventually got on at Fulham in the EFL Cup last September, but the fireworks would not come until one month later, at home to Wolverhampton Wanderers. Any attempt to keep the lid on the hype was abandoned in a half-hour ripper from Gelhardt which culminated in an injury-time, match-saving penalty award. He’s not looked back.
Greenwood’s league debut came from the bench in December when the squad was at its most threadbare on the day Arsenal visited Elland Road. He’s had to be patient since then, but saw a breakthrough last weekend.
“I wouldn’t say I’m going ahead of him, it's just different times,” said Gelhardt. “I got my exposure a little bit earlier than him, but he said to me, the other day after the game, it was crazy.
“At Watford, he didn’t feel nervous coming on, but his debut, he was nervous against Arsenal and I said ‘every one gets easier’ and he was like ‘I felt that after the Watford game when I came on, I wasn’t even nervous, I was just excited.’ I was telling him every time you come on it gets a bit easier and just do what you do when you’re on the pitch, just play your own game, you’re there for a reason, do what you do and score.”
Injuries have proved frustrating for both of the forwards this season, but with health on their side now, and a Patrick Bamford-shaped hole persisting for a few more weeks yet, opportunities are there for this young pair of friends.
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/gelhardt-greenwood-inbetweeners-leeds-united-23709813
-
...og woops har Joffy blitt tjue og ikke såå ung lenger
https://twitter.com/lynnegelhardt/status/1521737927151259654?s=20&t=sCcSfQBS7l1AaZWtv79FPA
-
Ryktes at Gelhardt reiser til sommeren . La oss håpe at det bare er dårlige rykter.
-
Ryktes at Gelhardt reiser til sommeren . La oss håpe at det bare er dårlige rykter.
Og hvem har kommet med det ryktet?
-
Ryktes at Gelhardt reiser til sommeren . La oss håpe at det bare er dårlige rykter.
Og hvem har kommet med det ryktet?
Skal vel ha seg en ferietur i sommer Gelhardt som mange andre! 8)
-
Ryktes at Gelhardt reiser til sommeren . La oss håpe at det bare er dårlige rykter.
Ikke sett det nevnes ett eneste sted, men jeg vil anta at tanken har streifa Gelhardt. Laget har ikke hatt en spiss nesten hele sesongen, men likevel har han fått svært få sjanser. Han har levert mål, assists og straffer som gir gode lovnader, men likevel får han knapt slippe til.
Han er langt fra fullverdig, men jeg syns det er feil å ta av Gelhardt fremfor James når Ayling opptrer som en tulling. James har vært veldig svak i det siste og da tenker jeg også på presspillet hans som tidligere har vært grunnen til å ha han på topp på tross av svakt med målpoeng.
Han må begynne å lure på når muligheten kommer. I Championship?
-
En sesong eller to i Championship tror jeg hadde vært bra for utviklingen til Joffy.
-
Ryktes at Gelhardt reiser til sommeren . La oss håpe at det bare er dårlige rykter.
Ikke sett det nevnes ett eneste sted, men jeg vil anta at tanken har streifa Gelhardt. Laget har ikke hatt en spiss nesten hele sesongen, men likevel har han fått svært få sjanser. Han har levert mål, assists og straffer som gir gode lovnader, men likevel får han knapt slippe til.
Han er langt fra fullverdig, men jeg syns det er feil å ta av Gelhardt fremfor James når Ayling opptrer som en tulling. James har vært veldig svak i det siste og da tenker jeg også på presspillet hans som tidligere har vært grunnen til å ha han på topp på tross av svakt med målpoeng.
Han må begynne å lure på når muligheten kommer. I Championship?
Helt enig vedr byttet på søndag, og mangel på sjanser ift lagets spiss-utfordringer. Men er han foreløpig god nok til å levere varene i PL over tid? Han har stort sett vært best som supersub etter min mening. Rykker vi ned i CC bør han kunne få masse spilletid, spesielt om Marsch (om han fortsatt er manager..) etter hvert foretrekker 2 spisser. Klarer vi mirakuløst nok å klamre oss i PL må vi ha inn en ny kvalitetsspiss. Vi kan ikke stole på at Bamford holder seg skadefri, og utenom han er det for tynt. Bamford var også en som proF***erte veldig på Bielsas metoder, klarer han å holde nivået, eller detter han ned på CC nivået igjen slik andre har gjort (Ayling, Klich, Harrison mfl)? Tror Gelhardt hadde hatt godt av et år i CC, uansett om det blir med Leeds eller andre. Han er et rått talent, og jeg håper Leeds får masse glede av han i fremtiden.
-
Hvis vi rykker ned til CC neste sesong , håper jeg Leeds gjør alt for å beholde Gelhardt , da vi nå er blitt vant til at å kjøpe spillere sånn midt på treet de siste sesongene. Ingen garanti for at Bamford finner tilbake til den scorings formen han hadde i fjor. Dessuten er CC en vanskelig og tøff liga å spille i , det vet vi etter 16 sesonger i CC før vi rykket opp til PL. MOT.
-
Synes svakt å huske at vi også hadde noen sesonger i League 1. La oss håpe det ikke går like gæernt igjen...
-
Så høydepunktene mot Roar på YouTube. Gelhardt er så klar. Digger han fyren. Forleng forleng forleng.
-
Så høydepunktene mot Roar på YouTube. Gelhardt er så klar. Digger han fyren. Forleng forleng forleng.
Word! Har også sett gjennom høydepunktene, og Gelhardt står virkelig fram nå synes jeg....
Dette er en spiller vi kommer til å få mye glede av denne sesongen, min spådom er at han kommer til å få mye mer spilletid nå enn i forrige sesong. Også selv om Sir Pat får avslutta abonnementet sitt hos fysio'en....
Gelhardt har liksom hele pakka synes jeg, han har høy arbeidskapasitet, god fart, teknikk, offensivt driv med ball, bra skuddfot og på toppen av det hele er han knallgod med hodet sjøl om han er vesentlig mindre enn samtlige stoppere han kommer opp mot. Bare å få knytta han opp i en feit langtidskontrakt fortere enn svint!! Klassespiller!
-
Så høydepunktene mot Roar på YouTube. Gelhardt er så klar. Digger han fyren. Forleng forleng forleng.
Det har jo stått i lokalpressen (YEP) at klubben er i en prosess med å forlenge.
(Tipper det står nedi tråden her et sted, godder ikke lete nå)...
-
Virker som han skriver under på ny 5-årskontrakt. Fantastiske nyheter i tilfelle! :)
https://tbrfootball.com/report-joe-gelhardt-on-verge-of-handing-leeds-huge-boost/
auren
-
Virker som han skriver under på ny 5-årskontrakt. Fantastiske nyheter i tilfelle! :)
https://tbrfootball.com/report-joe-gelhardt-on-verge-of-handing-leeds-huge-boost/
auren
Særdeles gode nyheter!!!! :-)
-
Virker som han skriver under på ny 5-årskontrakt. Fantastiske nyheter i tilfelle! :)
https://tbrfootball.com/report-joe-gelhardt-on-verge-of-handing-leeds-huge-boost/
auren
Særdeles gode nyheter!!!! :-)
Mest spennende spilleren vi har!
-
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-reward-striker-for-patience-and-physical-sacrifice-after-difficult-start-3791279
Meget fin artikkel fra Graham Smyth i YEP om Joe Gelhardt! Denna karen kommer vi til å få mye glede av framover, allerede denne sesongen også!
Joffy er klar!!
-
Henry Winter leverer igjen. Rimelig grundig intervju med Joffy. Fin og ‘grounded’ fyr, som har skjønt Leeds!
HENRY WINTER | JOE GELHARDT INTERVIEW
Joe Gelhardt: I lost 9kg in my first season at Leeds under Marcelo Bielsa. I had to change my habits
Moving to Leeds was an eye-opener for the 20-year-old who found out quickly what is needed to succeed at the top
Henry Winter
, Chief Football Writer
Friday August 19 2022, 5.00pm, The Times
When Joe Gelhardt was being pursued by clubs like Everton, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Leicester City, the then Wigan Athletic teenager went to a meeting with Leeds United’s charismatic director of football, Victor Orta. “He showed me a presentation about Leeds, the fans and the history,” Gelhardt recalls. “As soon as I walked out of the meeting, I said to my mum ‘this is the place for me’. I knew straight away.”
Two years on, Gelhardt has played 21 times for Leeds in the Premier League, is widely considered on a pathway to the England team and is even more in thrall to the Elland Road passion pit. On Tuesday he could be found standing on a makeshift pitch at Ebor Gardens, three miles from where Leeds host Chelsea on Sunday, playing football with fans alongside team-mate Tyler Adams.
Gelhardt was so involved in this Premier League Kicks community project laid on by Leeds United Foundation’s inspiring coaches for local youngsters that he even rushed back to make a goal-line clearance. Afterwards, the youngsters crowded around “Joffy”, a nickname taken from the King Jaffe Joffer character in the film Coming to America that his uncle, also Joe, was called because he used to watch it all the time. A family friend had a daughter in Gelhardt’s class, she started calling him Joffy and the name stuck. Leeds fans love Joffy. It’s the fearlessness and the street footballer in him that so appeals. He dribbles, creates and scores.
Surrounded by Leeds supporters, Gelhardt couldn’t stop smiling. “The video Victor showed me of the fans show how much Leeds means to the people,” the 20-year-old says. “It’s what I love. It was a no-brainer to come here. When I’ve been in the stand watching a game, the fans are scary loud but when I’m on the pitch, it feels even louder. It’s a cliché but they really are like a 12th man when we’re pushing for something. It lifts me 100 per cent. I don’t get tired as much, because I want to put in the work for the Leeds fans. They’re trying so hard to spur us on. I just want to give everything back for them. We were getting beat 7-0 by Man City last season and you could hear the Leeds fans more than City fans. That shows how special they are.
“Leeds represent passion, hard work and never giving up. They are the three things that stick out to me when I think about Leeds. Togetherness as well. If one person’s going through something (difficult) we’re all going through it. In performances on the pitch as players as we show that.’’
Gelhardt looks around the small pitch with the portable goals and high rises as a backdrop. It reminds him of his early years in Netherton, Liverpool. “I played on something like this growing up,” he continues. “I loved it. I played all the time. I didn’t know anything else, really. I’d go back there now if I could. When I do go back to my old street, there’s some grass and a few of the kids play there, my brother’s mates, so I play with them, not often though.” (His brother Daniel is in Wigan academy).
Gelhardt obliges with all the requests for selfies cheerily. “My mum would kill me if I wasn’t that way,’’ he adds. “She installed those values early. It’s the best way to be, just polite to everyone. You never know what anyone’s going through so make sure you’re nice to everyone on a day-to-day basis even if you’re in a bad mood. If you do start to get carried away people in Liverpool would bring you back down to earth quickly.”
He attended Chesterfield High School in Crosby, alma mater of James Vaughan (Everton) and Jack Robinson (Liverpool). “It’s always been associated with sport. They were helpful. I used to go on day release to Wigan so they were happy with me missing school but I’d have to catch up. I wasn’t treated any differently to any other kid just because I play football.”
He got to Anfield when he could. “I was a Liverpool fan. I went a few times when I was a kid, not that much because I used to play on Saturdays for Wigan and Sundays for Merseyside Boys. Fernando Torres was my favourite when he was at Liverpool. It was his hair — I was only young, and I wanted hair like Torres. He was a top player as well. Supporting Liverpool, he was the main man for the few seasons. When I started understanding football, Torres was the first person I looked at.
“But all through my life [Lionel] Messi has been my favourite. Messi’s just the best. What he does is ridiculous.” At 5ft 7in, Messi highlights that height isn’t everything. “It’s a myth,” the 5ft 9in Gelhardt says. “Messi’s the perfect example. You can think of loads of others like [Mo] Salah, Thiago [Alcântara]. They’re world class and they’re not tall.”
He developed his talent at Wigan where he was nicknamed “Wazza” after Wayne Rooney because of his background, strength and finishing prowess. “Wigan was great, friendly. Everyone was lovely at the club, the staff to the players. I can’t thank the Wigan coaches for what they did for me, the hours they put into training. They are top coaches.” He really got on with the manager Paul Cook. “He’s a Scouser as well. He was a good manager as well. I made my Championship debut [at 16] under him, so I’m thankful for him for that.”
He came on at half-time for the injured Josh Windass at Birmingham City on April 27, 2019. “It was scary at first.” He acquitted himself well. “My mum made the journey so I had to do well…”
Lynne Gelhardt features prominently in his story. “She’s the best, so supportive,” Gelhardt says. “From when I was a kid she came to every single game she could around the country. My dad’s a carpet F***er and my mum works in the same place, she does the office work. They’re both very hard-working. My dad doesn’t have a day off. My mum gets the weekend off. My dad works Saturday and Sunday as well. They made a lot of sacrifices for me. Whenever my birthday or Christmas came round and I’d ask for something they always made sure they had it. I know sometimes it wouldn’t have been easy for them.”
They constantly encouraged him, and his hard work underpinned his rise. It’s a message the Leeds coaches like 18-year-old Brooklyn Nixon impart to the youngsters kicking about around Gelhardt. “It’s massive for these kids for Joffy to be here because they see people like Joffy who have put craft and time into their skill, and their skill was football and it’s paid off for them, they’re playing in the Premier League,” Nixon says. “I tell that to all of these kids, ‘You put enough time in school, into anything, you can do whatever you want, the sky is the limit’.”
Such was Gelhardt’s application, and talent, that the FA called early. “I went to my first England camp with the Under-15s and I’ve been in the set-up since,” he recalls. He really announced himself with two goals and an assist in the Montaigu tournament in France in 2018, a competition for Under-16s graced by future stars like Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Thierry Henry and Kylian Mbappe. He’s risen up through age-groups, playing with plenty of prospects. “Loads! Tino Livramento, Fabio Carvalho (now Portugal Under-21s) and Harvey Elliott. He [Elliott] is sound. It’s good to see him doing so well.
“There’s a buzz around young English players. Everyone’s starting to notice now. The talent that’s coming through England is scary, the best in the world because of the great academies, coaches and facilities. It’s starting to show now with the youth teams. The Under-19s won the Euros in the summer.”
Many clubs pursued the young England prospect when Wigan fell into financial difficulties. “We took wage deferrals,” Gelhardt. “I was 17, so it didn’t bother me. Something happened with the owners but we weren’t told properly.”
After that successful meeting between Gelhardt and Orta, Leeds got the player for a bargain £1 million on August 10, 2020. On arrival at Thorp Arch, Gelhardt quickly realised the step up in skill and intensity, especially when joining in the first-team’s “murderball” session under Marcelo Bielsa. “I nearly threw up after my first one,” he recalls. “It was a big shock after Wigan. Sometimes we did pick up injuries it was that intense but fitness wise it was good.
“I lost 9 kilograms in my first season at Leeds. It was a big shock because I’d never really believed in nutrition. I just used to play football and enjoy it. Then I when joined Leeds in the Premier League it was a big step physically so I needed to get used to it. I had to change my habits.” Out went the fizzy drinks and in came the isotonics and shakes. “In Liverpool, when I’d get home I go out with my mates, I wouldn’t even be home for tea. So sometimes I’d get a crappy food which your body doesn’t need. When I joined Leeds, on my own, starting to cook for myself, I had the help of the Leeds nutritionist and the staff. I eat chicken, rice, pasta, noodles, mostly chicken because that’s protein, and then carbs and veg. My diet and body changed.” His running increased from an average 9km in games to 10.5km.
He’s had great role models like Kalvin Phillips and Patrick Bamford. “When I joined, Kalvin sent me a message on Instagram welcoming me. I appreciated Kalvin for that. Kalvin was a lovely, warm lad. He deserved his opportunity to go to one of the best teams in the world, if not the best (Manchester City). I’m made up for him. Pat’s like my mentor. If he was injured, especially at the end of last season, and I’d played, Pat would always send me videos on where I could do better. That sums up the type of guy he is, just willing to help others.”
Gelhardt is happy playing at 9 or 10. “Either, it doesn’t bother me. I can do a job in both. Naturally I’ve come towards the ball, but I don’t mind scrapping and fighting with the centre half.”
Bielsa improved him further. “He’s a genius,” Gelhardt enthuses. “He unlocks a side to players you don’t know you have. He was so complex, sometimes I didn’t understand what he’s talking about until I went on the pitch and it works. ‘Wow! That was what he was talking about.’ It was patterns of play and movement. For example, with me, I was a player who just came to feet all the time. He started to tell me to run in behind, and I started to score a few goals, for the Under-23s.” And then the first team.
Bielsa’s departure on February 27 was seismic. “It was emotional,’’ Gelhardt says. “He came in and did a speech. Everyone knows what he did to the club. Everyone involved in Leeds is very thankful for that. He was a great manager. What he’s done for Leeds is so impressive.”
Bielsa was succeeded by Jesse Marsch. “He’s different,” Gelhardt says. “But the same time intensity-wise in training he’s always pushing us, always want the best from us – and the best for us. Tyler said that when you think you’ve done something well, he [Marsch] will say you could have done it better. That makes me want to be better at it. It makes you better. It makes you push every day. He’s very good tactically as well. He took a hard job last season trying to save us from relegation. He completed the job.”
Gelhardt scored once for Bielsa. “I scored my first Premier League goal against Chelsea away which was unbelievable. The Norwich goal (a late winner under Marsch) topped that because of the situation we were in (fighting relegation).” Both goals were huge, and even though Leeds lost 3-2 to Chelsea, the game was a reminder of an old rivalry. “I didn’t know about the history in the 1970s but I’ve been told by a few of the people at Leeds that there is a big rivalry, so it was good to score.
“I’ve been told of how many fans were there back then, even then when Leeds were down the ladder. Leeds post a lot about the olden days. It doesn’t surprise me really because you see how big they are as a club.” That was also reflected in the intense grief at the sad passing of Peter Lorimer on March 20, 2021. “That showed what type of club we are, the type of support, we are all together. At those sad occasions everyone stands together. That’s the club.”
That unity was seen at Ebor Gardens. After the session, Gelhardt and Adams presented Nixon with a Premier League “community captain” armband as part of the league’s 30th anniversary and mark the inspiring work the coach has done with the club’s Kicks campaign, helping 1,000 local participants from eight to 18. “It’s good for the kids to be getting an opportunity to get involved in activities that will keep them off the streets,” Gelhardt adds. “This is perfect. It’s what kids need. It leads them in the right direction.” And they all want to follow Gelhardt.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/joe-gelhardt-i-lost-9kg-in-my-first-season-at-leeds-under-marcelo-bielsa-i-had-to-change-my-habits-hhcpwkzn6
-
Gelhardt startet kampen i dag og spilte de første 89 minuttene, så han må sannsynligvis ha gjort en brukbar kamp.
Jack Clarke også fra start, men byttet ut etter 63 minutter.
-
Her er hvordan pressen i Sunderland ser på hvordan Gelhardt gjør det i klubben så langt.
Joe Gelhardt is still awaiting his first goal out on loan with Sunderland, but it does appear
that the Leeds United youngster did have a decent night in the emphatic win at QPR on Tuesday.
Tony Mowbray’s men ended up winning 3-0 at the Kiyan Prince Foundation Stadium. It was former Whites winger Jack Clarke who sealed the victory with two goals during the second-half.
Gelhardt led the line again for the Black Cats. He has not had the easiest start to life on loan with the Championship promotion chasers following his arrival in the January transfer window.
And he is still yet to open his account in front of goal. However, he has received some praise from the local press after his display against QPR.
The 20-year-old hit the crossbar and probably should have scored. But he has been given credit for how hard he worked in the game before coming off during the second-half.
The Sunderland Echo gave his display a 6/10 rating, but noted that he is ‘definitely starting to find his feet’. Meanwhile, the Chronicle went for a 7, and praised the forward for working hard.
The most encouraging view comes from Roker Report. They suggested that Gelhardt had his best game yet for Sunderland. And they described his work off the ball as ‘top-notch’.
Gelhardt has featured in all three league games since his move from Leeds. And that is exactly what the youngster needs after a frustrating time at Elland Road.
He is simply too good to only get a few minutes here and there, regardless of which level that is at. And his situation at Leeds appeared to take some of his confidence away.
He will obviously be a little disappointed that he is still yet to score. But it is fantastic to see that Gelhardt appears to be moving in the right direction again.
https://www.leedsunited.news/news/local-press-react-to-joe-gelhardts-latest-display-in-3-0-sunderland-win/
-
Satte nettopp på TV for å kikke litt på Sunderland med Gelhardt og Clarke i spissen..tok bare et par min før Gelhardt utlignet..assist (egentlig en sleiv) fra Clarke.. Et par min senere var kampen snudd til 2-1, ny assist av Clarke. Der ble d jaggu 2-2..helt vill match.. ;D
-
Kult å se Clarke og Gelhardt der! Håper på å se en forbedret utgave av Joffy i Leedsdrakt neste sesong! Bra han spiller og scorer i Sunderland.. ;D
-
Ny scoring i kveldens hjemmekamp mot Huddersfield.
-
Joe Gelhardt sentral i slutten av fjorårssesongen. Hvem glemmer ikke seiersmålet på overtid mot Norwich eller den magiske driblingen og kjippen til Struijk som gav livsviktige 1-1 i siste hjemmekamp for sesongen. Vi har ingen X factor spiller som kan gjøre det samme i år.
-
Joe Gelhardt sentral i slutten av fjorårssesongen. Hvem glemmer ikke seiersmålet på overtid mot Norwich eller den magiske driblingen og kjippen til Struijk som gav livsviktige 1-1 i siste hjemmekamp for sesongen. Vi har ingen X factor spiller som kan gjøre det samme i år.
Willy Gnonto har 3x X-faktoren til Joe Gelhardt. Ikke hadde vi Crysencio Summerville i gangbar stand heller på det tidspunktet. Begge disse går Gelhardt en høy gang etter mitt syn.
-
Da må nevnte Willy og Summerville levere varene fra nå av. Da oppsummerer vi etter sesongen og ser om disse karene kan gi oss de nødvendige poengene som Gelhardt ordnet. Uten disse poengene hadde vi nemlig rykket ned på målforskjellen.
-
Joe Gelhardt sentral i slutten av fjorårssesongen. Hvem glemmer ikke seiersmålet på overtid mot Norwich eller den magiske driblingen og kjippen til Struijk som gav livsviktige 1-1 i siste hjemmekamp for sesongen. Vi har ingen X factor spiller som kan gjøre det samme i år.
Willy Gnonto har 3x X-faktoren til Joe Gelhardt. Ikke hadde vi Crysencio Summerville i gangbar stand heller på det tidspunktet. Begge disse går Gelhardt en høy gang etter mitt syn.
Hva begrunner du det med? Hadde vi brukt Gelhardt mer når han var på gang hadde vi hatt en knallspiller i dag. I stedet brukte vi Dan James f.eks. og lot ikke Gwlhardt få spilletid hverken på A- eller U. Gnonto på vei samme sted nå, men hverken Gnonto eller Summerville er i nærheten av damme produksjon pr. 90 som Joffy hadde.
-
Punkt 1 er at vi må bruke spillere som blør for drakta og vil spille for denne klubben. Det må jo ligge i bunn. Noe er riv, ruskende galt. Rykter om håndgemeng i garderobe tror jeg ikke er oppspinn. Denne kollapsen kommer ikke av ingenting. De her kontinentale spillerne kan ha den kvaliteten de vil, hjelper null og niks hvis de ikke gidder.
Overbevist om at Joe Gelhardt hadde ofret liv og lemmer for spilletid hos oss. og det må ligger i bunn.
Vi trenger en skikkelig opprenskning, start med de tre på tribunen som har satt sammen dette elendige mannskapet.
-
Joe Gelhardt sentral i slutten av fjorårssesongen. Hvem glemmer ikke seiersmålet på overtid mot Norwich eller den magiske driblingen og kjippen til Struijk som gav livsviktige 1-1 i siste hjemmekamp for sesongen. Vi har ingen X factor spiller som kan gjøre det samme i år.
Willy Gnonto har 3x X-faktoren til Joe Gelhardt. Ikke hadde vi Crysencio Summerville i gangbar stand heller på det tidspunktet. Begge disse går Gelhardt en høy gang etter mitt syn.
Hva begrunner du det med? Hadde vi brukt Gelhardt mer når han var på gang hadde vi hatt en knallspiller i dag. I stedet brukte vi Dan James f.eks. og lot ikke Gwlhardt få spilletid hverken på A- eller U. Gnonto på vei samme sted nå, men hverken Gnonto eller Summerville er i nærheten av damme produksjon pr. 90 som Joffy hadde.
Gelhardt var viktig for oss i kamper i fjor, og var med og skaffet oss poeng.
Raphinha var da stjernen vår, Patrick stort sett skadet - men dessverre hadde man en forkjærlighet for å spille James i steden for Gelhardt.
Mener det var helt riktig å la Joe gå ut på lån for spilletid, med det som ble kjøpt inn nå i starten på sesongen.
Rodrigo var vel heller ikke helt i slaget (har allerede glemt om han var skadet eller annet) ..
I år er det mer og sunnere konkurranse på topp. Både Summerville, og ikke minst Gnonto har levert til tider. Patrick er tradisjonen tro mye skadet, mens Rodrigo jo startet forrykende. Sinisterra, Harrison og Rutter kan vi også nevne.....her har vi mye uforløst kvalitet.
Det som er mest skremmende nå er at Gracia ikke bruker Gnonto mer, han er krydderet vårt sammen med Sinisterra.
Jeg tror nok uansett hva som skjer - at det blir en opprydning i stallen når det er avklart om vi er PL eller EFL Championship lag i slutten av Mai.
I løpet av sommeren blir nok unggutta ute på lån (Hjelde, Cresswell, Drameh og Gelhardt) vurdert igjen om de er med i planene..
Om vi er Championship lag så er de nok mer aktuelle enn om vi holder oss.
-
James er fremdeles Leeds spiller. Kommer sikkert tilbake, er for dårlig. Gnonto på vei samme sted som som Gelhardt, blir brukt for lite når han er i form og utviklingen peker riktig vei. Gelhardt tror jeg desverre misset vinduet og forblir en nesten-spiller. Mye rart med spillerlogistikken vår, men hva vet jeg.
-
Eg tenkjer eg ville hatt tilbake både Gelhardt og Cresswell. Sistnevnte slår meg som ein som kunne fort vorte ledarskikkelsen klubben treng. Han gjer det visst godt på utlån. Så spørs det jo om det er godt nok for PL..
OM me skulle rykke ned, så tenkjer eg begge to fort vil få sentrale rollar i klubben.
-
Eg tenkjer eg ville hatt tilbake både Gelhardt og Cresswell. Sistnevnte slår meg som ein som kunne fort vorte ledarskikkelsen klubben treng. Han gjer det visst godt på utlån. Så spørs det jo om det er godt nok for PL..
OM me skulle rykke ned, så tenkjer eg begge to fort vil få sentrale rollar i klubben.
Vi har vært inne på dette med at mange av de dyrekjøpte, tiltenkte profilene i laget i så ung alder er en risikabel strategi å drive, spesielt for et lag som har slitt og sliter i bunnen. Rutine kommer med erfaring og ofte kommer også lederegenskapene selvsagt med rutinen.
Likevel slår Cresswell meg også som en spiller som, tross sin unge alder, neppe hadde gjemt seg slik mange gjør i disse dager. De siste stortapene har ikke virket å gjøre noen sinte eller frustrerte på banen, det er et par som slår ut med armene og kollektiv nedleggelse av våpnene. Tynnslitt selvtillit og null moral.
Om han holder PL-nivå uke inn og ut er vanskelig å bedømme, men i fremtiden tror jeg dette blir en solid spiller for Leeds. Lokalt forankret, utvilsomt en aggressiv innstilt spiller og målfarlig på dødball. Det lukter litt fremtidig kaptein eller galleonsfigur av Cresswell. Tida vil vise om han faktisk blir det. Rykker vi ned regner jeg med Koch forsvinner og da kan det fort bli Wõber/Cresswell som stoppere. Ch-nivået har han beviselig inne.
At Leeds tilsynelatende ville latt han slippe for rundt £4 millioner i januar, samtidig som Radrizzani skryter av at de beskytter forsvarsspillerne sine med ny, lang kontrakt på Diego Llorente sier mye om rekrutteringen i Leeds United pr nå.
-
Eg tenkjer eg ville hatt tilbake både Gelhardt og Cresswell. Sistnevnte slår meg som ein som kunne fort vorte ledarskikkelsen klubben treng. Han gjer det visst godt på utlån. Så spørs det jo om det er godt nok for PL..
OM me skulle rykke ned, så tenkjer eg begge to fort vil få sentrale rollar i klubben.
Vi har vært inne på dette med at mange av de dyrekjøpte, tiltenkte profilene i laget i så ung alder er en risikabel strategi å drive, spesielt for et lag som har slitt og sliter i bunnen. Rutine kommer med erfaring og ofte kommer også lederegenskapene selvsagt med rutinen.
Likevel slår Cresswell meg også som en spiller som, tross sin unge alder, neppe hadde gjemt seg slik mange gjør i disse dager. De siste stortapene har ikke virket å gjøre noen sinte eller frustrerte på banen, det er et par som slår ut med armene og kollektiv nedleggelse av våpnene. Tynnslitt selvtillit og null moral.
Om han holder PL-nivå uke inn og ut er vanskelig å bedømme, men i fremtiden tror jeg dette blir en solid spiller for Leeds. Lokalt forankret, utvilsomt en aggressiv innstilt spiller og målfarlig på dødball. Det lukter litt fremtidig kaptein eller galleonsfigur av Cresswell. Tida vil vise om han faktisk blir det. Rykker vi ned regner jeg med Koch forsvinner og da kan det fort bli Wõber/Cresswell som stoppere. Ch-nivået har han beviselig inne.
At Leeds tilsynelatende ville latt han slippe for rundt £4 millioner i januar, samtidig som Radrizzani skryter av at de beskytter forsvarsspillerne sine med ny, lang kontrakt på Diego Llorente sier mye om rekrutteringen i Leeds United pr nå.
Som om eg skulle sagt det sjølv ;D
-
Eg tenkjer eg ville hatt tilbake både Gelhardt og Cresswell. Sistnevnte slår meg som ein som kunne fort vorte ledarskikkelsen klubben treng. Han gjer det visst godt på utlån. Så spørs det jo om det er godt nok for PL..
OM me skulle rykke ned, så tenkjer eg begge to fort vil få sentrale rollar i klubben.
Vi har vært inne på dette med at mange av de dyrekjøpte, tiltenkte profilene i laget i så ung alder er en risikabel strategi å drive, spesielt for et lag som har slitt og sliter i bunnen. Rutine kommer med erfaring og ofte kommer også lederegenskapene selvsagt med rutinen.
Likevel slår Cresswell meg også som en spiller som, tross sin unge alder, neppe hadde gjemt seg slik mange gjør i disse dager. De siste stortapene har ikke virket å gjøre noen sinte eller frustrerte på banen, det er et par som slår ut med armene og kollektiv nedleggelse av våpnene. Tynnslitt selvtillit og null moral.
Om han holder PL-nivå uke inn og ut er vanskelig å bedømme, men i fremtiden tror jeg dette blir en solid spiller for Leeds. Lokalt forankret, utvilsomt en aggressiv innstilt spiller og målfarlig på dødball. Det lukter litt fremtidig kaptein eller galleonsfigur av Cresswell. Tida vil vise om han faktisk blir det. Rykker vi ned regner jeg med Koch forsvinner og da kan det fort bli Wõber/Cresswell som stoppere. Ch-nivået har han beviselig inne.
At Leeds tilsynelatende ville latt han slippe for rundt £4 millioner i januar, samtidig som Radrizzani skryter av at de beskytter forsvarsspillerne sine med ny, lang kontrakt på Diego Llorente sier mye om rekrutteringen i Leeds United pr nå.
Som om eg skulle sagt det sjølv ;D
Cresswell har i perioder vært tredjevalg i Millwall på stopperplass. Tenker det er noen hakk opp til Premier League. Kan hende en dag, men det er ikke godt nok til at vi skal berge plassen i PL denne sesongen tenker jeg.
-
Eg tenkjer eg ville hatt tilbake både Gelhardt og Cresswell. Sistnevnte slår meg som ein som kunne fort vorte ledarskikkelsen klubben treng. Han gjer det visst godt på utlån. Så spørs det jo om det er godt nok for PL..
OM me skulle rykke ned, så tenkjer eg begge to fort vil få sentrale rollar i klubben.
Vi har vært inne på dette med at mange av de dyrekjøpte, tiltenkte profilene i laget i så ung alder er en risikabel strategi å drive, spesielt for et lag som har slitt og sliter i bunnen. Rutine kommer med erfaring og ofte kommer også lederegenskapene selvsagt med rutinen.
Likevel slår Cresswell meg også som en spiller som, tross sin unge alder, neppe hadde gjemt seg slik mange gjør i disse dager. De siste stortapene har ikke virket å gjøre noen sinte eller frustrerte på banen, det er et par som slår ut med armene og kollektiv nedleggelse av våpnene. Tynnslitt selvtillit og null moral.
Om han holder PL-nivå uke inn og ut er vanskelig å bedømme, men i fremtiden tror jeg dette blir en solid spiller for Leeds. Lokalt forankret, utvilsomt en aggressiv innstilt spiller og målfarlig på dødball. Det lukter litt fremtidig kaptein eller galleonsfigur av Cresswell. Tida vil vise om han faktisk blir det. Rykker vi ned regner jeg med Koch forsvinner og da kan det fort bli Wõber/Cresswell som stoppere. Ch-nivået har han beviselig inne.
At Leeds tilsynelatende ville latt han slippe for rundt £4 millioner i januar, samtidig som Radrizzani skryter av at de beskytter forsvarsspillerne sine med ny, lang kontrakt på Diego Llorente sier mye om rekrutteringen i Leeds United pr nå.
Som om eg skulle sagt det sjølv ;D
Cresswell har i perioder vært tredjevalg i Millwall på stopperplass. Tenker det er noen hakk opp til Premier League. Kan hende en dag, men det er ikke godt nok til at vi skal berge plassen i PL denne sesongen tenker jeg.
Han har også spilt seg inn i laget igjen etter å ha havnet utenfor en periode, mye grunnet formasjonsendring. I tillegg er fem mål fra stopperplass imponerende. Cresswell fylte også kun 20 år da sesongen startet og hadde minimalt med seniorfotball under beltet. Måten han taklet innhoppet borte mot Wolves i fjor vitnet om en unggutt som er offensiv i spillestilen og ikke gjemmer seg når det butter, lik mange av våre antatte "profiler" dessverre har for vane å gjøre.
Det er altfor mange uerfarne spillere Victor Orta har satt til å bære dette laget. At man rakner fullstendig når Wøber og Adams er ute, som tross sine relativt få år er ledertyper, viser at det er sterk mangel på riktige typer i stallen. Overhodet ikke i tvil om at Cresswell har mentale egenskaper denne stallen mangler. Det samme gjelder også Hjelde.
Så betyr ikke dette at de har jevnt over PL-nivå per i dag. Nå var også min konklusjon "kanskje en dag" og ikke i dag, men det regner jeg med du leste. Godt at de får erfaring fra Ch i år, sammen med Gelhardt. Kanskje er det Perkins, Fernandes og Gyabis tur neste år. Forhåpentligvis ikke med Leeds.
-
Eg tenkjer eg ville hatt tilbake både Gelhardt og Cresswell. Sistnevnte slår meg som ein som kunne fort vorte ledarskikkelsen klubben treng. Han gjer det visst godt på utlån. Så spørs det jo om det er godt nok for PL..
OM me skulle rykke ned, så tenkjer eg begge to fort vil få sentrale rollar i klubben.
Vi har vært inne på dette med at mange av de dyrekjøpte, tiltenkte profilene i laget i så ung alder er en risikabel strategi å drive, spesielt for et lag som har slitt og sliter i bunnen. Rutine kommer med erfaring og ofte kommer også lederegenskapene selvsagt med rutinen.
Likevel slår Cresswell meg også som en spiller som, tross sin unge alder, neppe hadde gjemt seg slik mange gjør i disse dager. De siste stortapene har ikke virket å gjøre noen sinte eller frustrerte på banen, det er et par som slår ut med armene og kollektiv nedleggelse av våpnene. Tynnslitt selvtillit og null moral.
Om han holder PL-nivå uke inn og ut er vanskelig å bedømme, men i fremtiden tror jeg dette blir en solid spiller for Leeds. Lokalt forankret, utvilsomt en aggressiv innstilt spiller og målfarlig på dødball. Det lukter litt fremtidig kaptein eller galleonsfigur av Cresswell. Tida vil vise om han faktisk blir det. Rykker vi ned regner jeg med Koch forsvinner og da kan det fort bli Wõber/Cresswell som stoppere. Ch-nivået har han beviselig inne.
At Leeds tilsynelatende ville latt han slippe for rundt £4 millioner i januar, samtidig som Radrizzani skryter av at de beskytter forsvarsspillerne sine med ny, lang kontrakt på Diego Llorente sier mye om rekrutteringen i Leeds United pr nå.
Som om eg skulle sagt det sjølv ;D
Cresswell har i perioder vært tredjevalg i Millwall på stopperplass. Tenker det er noen hakk opp til Premier League. Kan hende en dag, men det er ikke godt nok til at vi skal berge plassen i PL denne sesongen tenker jeg.
Han har også spilt seg inn i laget igjen etter å ha havnet utenfor en periode, mye grunnet formasjonsendring. I tillegg er fem mål fra stopperplass imponerende. Cresswell fylte også kun 20 år da sesongen startet og hadde minimalt med seniorfotball under beltet. Måten han taklet innhoppet borte mot Wolves i fjor vitnet om en unggutt som er offensiv i spillestilen og ikke gjemmer seg når det butter, lik mange av våre antatte "profiler" dessverre har for vane å gjøre.
Det er altfor mange uerfarne spillere Victor Orta har satt til å bære dette laget. At man rakner fullstendig når Wøber og Adams er ute, som tross sine relativt få år er ledertyper, viser at det er sterk mangel på riktige typer i stallen. Overhodet ikke i tvil om at Cresswell har mentale egenskaper denne stallen mangler. Det samme gjelder også Hjelde.
Så betyr ikke dette at de har jevnt over PL-nivå per i dag. Nå var også min konklusjon "kanskje en dag" og ikke i dag, men det regner jeg med du leste. Godt at de får erfaring fra Ch i år, sammen med Gelhardt. Kanskje er det Perkins, Fernandes og Gyabis tur neste år. Forhåpentligvis ikke med Leeds.
Etter å ha fått siste uken litt på avstand så tror jeg vi gjennomfører en god kamp borte mot Fulham og får med oss 1 poeng.
Så viser Gracia og teamet gamle kunstner å vipper Leicester kampen til tre poeng. Da tror jeg vi står i div, men går nok til Spurs i siste hjemme.
Hvis ikke kan jo fort en av de utlånte ungguttene vi snakker om møte oss i heisen.
Dramehs og Luton spiller PO. Cresswell og Shackleton i Millwall er godt plassert. I tillegg er Gelhart og Sunderland en liten outsider til PO med 2/3 poeng opp med 3 kamper igjen å spille. Tøff kamp borte mot Cobrehan og WBA neste, men vinner de den så er sjansene gode mtp Rovers sin tøffe innspurt.
Cresswell leverer jevnt veldig, veldig bra. 6 x MOM og bra med målpoeng som du skriver.
Drameh, igjen, har prestert veldig bra i CC. Ligger å vaker helt oppe i toppen hva gjelder prestasjon. Han drar nok til sommeren. For god til dette.
Gelhart har fått endel tyn, men kommet seg litt i det siste. Står vel med 5-6 målpoeng. Sunderlands beste på Tirsdag mot Huddersfield.
Man snakker altså topp CC over det våre beste unge leverer. Det er et veldig godt utgangspunkt.
Ingrediensene som du, jeg og flere andre ikke ser hos våre seniorer idag får disse guttene utfordret seg på nå og har løst det ganske bra.
Langt bedre enn den grunnstammen vår siste kampene.
Du kan ikke være veik og redd når du spiller CC fotball. Da er det over og ut med en gang.
-
Eg tenkjer eg ville hatt tilbake både Gelhardt og Cresswell. Sistnevnte slår meg som ein som kunne fort vorte ledarskikkelsen klubben treng. Han gjer det visst godt på utlån. Så spørs det jo om det er godt nok for PL..
OM me skulle rykke ned, så tenkjer eg begge to fort vil få sentrale rollar i klubben.
Vi har vært inne på dette med at mange av de dyrekjøpte, tiltenkte profilene i laget i så ung alder er en risikabel strategi å drive, spesielt for et lag som har slitt og sliter i bunnen. Rutine kommer med erfaring og ofte kommer også lederegenskapene selvsagt med rutinen.
Likevel slår Cresswell meg også som en spiller som, tross sin unge alder, neppe hadde gjemt seg slik mange gjør i disse dager. De siste stortapene har ikke virket å gjøre noen sinte eller frustrerte på banen, det er et par som slår ut med armene og kollektiv nedleggelse av våpnene. Tynnslitt selvtillit og null moral.
Om han holder PL-nivå uke inn og ut er vanskelig å bedømme, men i fremtiden tror jeg dette blir en solid spiller for Leeds. Lokalt forankret, utvilsomt en aggressiv innstilt spiller og målfarlig på dødball. Det lukter litt fremtidig kaptein eller galleonsfigur av Cresswell. Tida vil vise om han faktisk blir det. Rykker vi ned regner jeg med Koch forsvinner og da kan det fort bli Wõber/Cresswell som stoppere. Ch-nivået har han beviselig inne.
At Leeds tilsynelatende ville latt han slippe for rundt £4 millioner i januar, samtidig som Radrizzani skryter av at de beskytter forsvarsspillerne sine med ny, lang kontrakt på Diego Llorente sier mye om rekrutteringen i Leeds United pr nå.
Som om eg skulle sagt det sjølv ;D
Cresswell har i perioder vært tredjevalg i Millwall på stopperplass. Tenker det er noen hakk opp til Premier League. Kan hende en dag, men det er ikke godt nok til at vi skal berge plassen i PL denne sesongen tenker jeg.
Han har også spilt seg inn i laget igjen etter å ha havnet utenfor en periode, mye grunnet formasjonsendring. I tillegg er fem mål fra stopperplass imponerende. Cresswell fylte også kun 20 år da sesongen startet og hadde minimalt med seniorfotball under beltet. Måten han taklet innhoppet borte mot Wolves i fjor vitnet om en unggutt som er offensiv i spillestilen og ikke gjemmer seg når det butter, lik mange av våre antatte "profiler" dessverre har for vane å gjøre.
Det er altfor mange uerfarne spillere Victor Orta har satt til å bære dette laget. At man rakner fullstendig når Wøber og Adams er ute, som tross sine relativt få år er ledertyper, viser at det er sterk mangel på riktige typer i stallen. Overhodet ikke i tvil om at Cresswell har mentale egenskaper denne stallen mangler. Det samme gjelder også Hjelde.
Så betyr ikke dette at de har jevnt over PL-nivå per i dag. Nå var også min konklusjon "kanskje en dag" og ikke i dag, men det regner jeg med du leste. Godt at de får erfaring fra Ch i år, sammen med Gelhardt. Kanskje er det Perkins, Fernandes og Gyabis tur neste år. Forhåpentligvis ikke med Leeds.
Etter å ha fått siste uken litt på avstand så tror jeg vi gjennomfører en god kamp borte mot Fulham og får med oss 1 poeng.
Så viser Gracia og teamet gamle kunstner å vipper Leicester kampen til tre poeng. Da tror jeg vi står i div, men går nok til Spurs i siste hjemme.
Hvis ikke kan jo fort en av de utlånte ungguttene vi snakker om møte oss i heisen.
Dramehs og Luton spiller PO. Cresswell og Shackleton i Millwall er godt plassert. I tillegg er Gelhart og Sunderland en liten outsider til PO med 2/3 poeng opp med 3 kamper igjen å spille. Tøff kamp borte mot Cobrehan og WBA neste, men vinner de den så er sjansene gode mtp Rovers sin tøffe innspurt.
Cresswell leverer jevnt veldig, veldig bra. 6 x MOM og bra med målpoeng som du skriver.
Drameh, igjen, har prestert veldig bra i CC. Ligger å vaker helt oppe i toppen hva gjelder prestasjon. Han drar nok til sommeren. For god til dette.
Gelhart har fått endel tyn, men kommet seg litt i det siste. Står vel med 5-6 målpoeng. Sunderlands beste på Tirsdag mot Huddersfield.
Man snakker altså topp CC over det våre beste unge leverer. Det er et veldig godt utgangspunkt.
Ingrediensene som du, jeg og flere andre ikke ser hos våre seniorer idag får disse guttene utfordret seg på nå og har løst det ganske bra.
Langt bedre enn den grunnstammen vår siste kampene.
Du kan ikke være veik og redd når du spiller CC fotball. Da er det over og ut med en gang.
Helt enig der, men - og dette med en disclaimer om at jeg ikke har studert disse lagene - mange unge spillere som gjør det bra i divisjonen under er ikke nødvendigvis bærebjelkene i laget. Det er enklere å være en spennende kantspiller eller spiss, når ryggraden av laget består av solide, rutinerte spillere. At utsagnet 'You'll never win anything with kids' samme sesong ble motbevist på 90-tallet, var vel unntaket av regelen. Man trenger ungdommelig mot, men man må ha andre karakterer i laget også.
Dette sier seg jo selv for 99% av alle supportere, men man leser også her og der at folk ikke er redde for nedrykk. Vi kan bare bruke Drameh, Hjelde, Cresswell, Gelhardt, Gyabi, Gnonto osv og gå rett opp igjen. Det er nok ikke så enkelt. Men det er like fullt veldig viktig at mange av disse får spille "voksenfotball" i en relativt ok serie denne sesongen. Jeg tror også veldig på bare det at folk som eksempelvis Cresswell faktisk bor et godt stykke unna og er "ute av reiret" en periode bidrar til at man vokser fort som spiller. At han har havnet litt ute og kommet seg inn igjen også, tyder på vilje.
Jeg tror som nevnt at Koch forsvinner om vi rykker ned. Da kan fort Cresswell kjempe med Cooper om å bli Wõbers makker.
Gelhardt gir jeg heller ikke opp håpet på. Han har aldri vist seg som en 'starter' for min del, men han har gjort altfor mye i en enda veldig ung alder, til at jeg vil avskrive han på noen som helst måte. Mangler toppfart, men han har mye annet ved seg. Sannsynligvis en som må spille i tospann, eller for et lag som dominerer ball og skaper mange sjanser og med en god 10er bak seg.
-
Angående unggutta som er på lån i Championship: Ser at mange skriver at lagene de spiller på er langt unna PL. Til dette vil jeg tilføye at jeg tror Leeds ville ha hatt store problemer med å matche både Millwall, Luton og Sunderland slik som vi har framstått de to siste kampene. I tillegg er dette spillere som har fått mye matching og selvtillit gjennom mange positive opplevelser gjennom en lang sesong. Selv om det å gjøre slike sammenligninger er rent hypotetisk, klarer jeg ikke helt å fri meg fra følgende påstand, gitt dagens situasjon:
Hjelde hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Firpo og Struijk på VB
Cresswell hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Struijk som stopper
Drameh hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Ayling og Rasmus på HB
Joffy hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Rutter som spiss, og kanskje et like godt alternativ som Bamford og Rodrigo
-
Angående unggutta som er på lån i Championship: Ser at mange skriver at lagene de spiller på er langt unna PL. Til dette vil jeg tilføye at jeg tror Leeds ville ha hatt store problemer med å matche både Millwall, Luton og Sunderland slik som vi har framstått de to siste kampene. I tillegg er dette spillere som har fått mye matching og selvtillit gjennom mange positive opplevelser gjennom en lang sesong. Selv om det å gjøre slike sammenligninger er rent hypotetisk, klarer jeg ikke helt å fri meg fra følgende påstand, gitt dagens situasjon:
Hjelde hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Firpo og Struijk på VB
Cresswell hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Struijk som stopper
Drameh hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Ayling og Rasmus på HB
Joffy hadde vært et bedre alternativ enn Rutter som spiss, og kanskje et like godt alternativ som Bamford og Rodrigo
Ikke uenig med deg i at Leeds neppe er noe bedre enn mange lag i Championship pt. Det samme gjelder Leicester, Forest og Soton eksempelvis. Derimot møter ikke Luton, Millwall og Sunderland lag som Arsenal, City, Newcastle, Aston Villa og Liverpool (på sitt beste) annenhver uke. De spiller mot Reading, QPR og Cardiff. Så det blir ikke enkelt å sammenligne nivået, men over en sesong er det ingen tvil om at de nevnte spillerne møter et vesentlige lavere snittnivå av motstandere enn de ville gjort i Premier League. Det sier jeg fullt vitende om at årets Premier League-utgave er en av de svakeste på mange år.
Så kan selvsagt årets sesong bidra til å gjøre disse mer rustet for en sesong i Premier League (eventuelt) neste sesong. Det er jo det morsomme med fotball, at man aldri kan garantere noe som helst fra en sesong til den neste. Tror flere av våre utlånte og U21-spillere kan ha et PL-nivå i seg, men de aller fleste gode, unge fotballspillere når ikke opp til PL. Blir spennende å se hvilke som eventuelt når opp.
-
Angående nivået på ligaene, så er Championships ca. den 7. beste ligaen i Europa. Bak big5, Russland og omtrent som Portugal. Dvs høyere nivå enn mange av våre signeringer.
-
Utlånene av Gelhardt og Cresswell er to selvskudd som Leeds har påført seg i løpet av denne sesongen. Katastrofebeslutninger, når man tenker på den labre kvaliteten resten av spillergruppa har vartet opp med. Begeret med toskete beslutninger angående spillerlogistikk er fullt for lengst. Noen må ta konsekvensen å gå.
-
Gelhardt, Cresswell og Hjelde blir bra for Leeds i Championship neste år.
-
Gelhardt, Cresswell og Hjelde blir bra for Leeds i Championship neste år.
Kanskje får vi se en forsvarsfirer med Drameh, Cresswell, Wöber og Hjelde?
Hadde neppe dummet seg ut den!
auren
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Drameh spiller PL neste år. Og ikke for oss.
-
Kan Gelhardt benyttes siste 2 kamper?
-
Kan Gelhardt benyttes siste 2 kamper?
Nei, må vente på at overgangsvinduet åpner.
Sent fra min LE2113 via Tapatalk
-
Joffy er (foreløpig) tilbake i pre seasontrening med Leeds.
Det er spennende å se hva som skjer videre der. Vi har alle sett kvalitetene hans. Men forrige sesong var ikke mye å skryte av, hverken mens han var i Leeds eller på utlån.
Det er avgjørende hva Farke måtte mene. Han skal være flink med unggutta. Men i Leeds er det plenty med ungt spisstalent så hvem som får tillit og ikke blir nokmavgjørende.
HER er imidlertid lillebror Dan Gelhardt (14).
https://twitter.com/Evolution_Sprts/status/1676608999670571011?s=20
Vi har en del profilerte lillebrødre, Harry Gray, Paxton Aaronson, nå Dan Gelhardt...
(Det er ikke ofte disse lillebrødrene virkelig får det til though)
-
Joffy er (foreløpig) tilbake i pre seasontrening med Leeds.
Det er spennende å se hva som skjer videre der. Vi har alle sett kvalitetene hans. Men forrige sesong var ikke mye å skryte av, hverken mens han var i Leeds eller på utlån.
Det er avgjørende hva Farke måtte mene. Han skal være flink med unggutta. Men i Leeds er det plenty med ungt spisstalent så hvem som får tillit og ikke blir nokmavgjørende.
HER er imidlertid lillebror Dan Gelhardt (14).
https://twitter.com/Evolution_Sprts/status/1676608999670571011?s=20
Vi har en del profilerte lillebrødre, Harry Gray, Paxton Aaronson, nå Dan Gelhardt...
(Det er ikke ofte disse lillebrødrene virkelig får det til though)
Kan det være lillebroren til Kiko Casilla som sto i mål på den treningssesjonen?? Tydelig feilplassert og uinteressert i å være på banen i alle fall
-
Det er jo begrenset hvor mange talentfulle spisser vi kan ha i en førstelagstropp. Joseph, Perkins, Gelhardt og Rutter ønsker nok alle en sjanse. Bamford har jo kontrakt, og der kommer det neppe noe bud. Samtidig er jeg rimelig sikker på at Farke ønsker en etablert målscorer. Synd det nå ikke er noen Pukki til bøtte inn......
-
Det er jo begrenset hvor mange talentfulle spisser vi kan ha i en førstelagstropp. Joseph, Perkins, Gelhardt og Rutter ønsker nok alle en sjanse. Bamford har jo kontrakt, og der kommer det neppe noe bud. Samtidig er jeg rimelig sikker på at Farke ønsker en etablert målscorer. Synd det nå ikke er noen Pukki til bøtte inn......
Farke + Rutter = 30 + MÅL 8)
Bamford er det bare å selge for hbo 0,-
-
Graham Smyth
@GrahamSmyth
Joe Gelhardt emerged from a photoshoot yesterday, spotted a football and natural instinct took over. He wants to do what comes naturally, in the position that best permits it, for new Leeds United boss Daniel Farke and he's excited to be back.
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-youngster-targets-position-at-centre-of-transfer-speculation-in-daniel-farke-system-4232597
.....
Gelhardt readily admits that his favoured position is 10, adding the usual caveat that he'll play wherever Daniel Farke puts him. On Saturday against Monaco it was in the 10 role that Gelhardt featured as a second half substitute and there was a glimpse or two of that desire to get at defenders. One neat turn took him into space and allowed him to find Daniel James, the attack flowing through Gelhardt quite naturally.
....
"I just play football how I have since I was a young lad. I've never changed anything. And the hype and stuff that doesn't doesn't faze me. Whether people say good, or bad stuff. I've always played the same type of football that I've always played.
-
Graham Smyth
@GrahamSmyth
Joe Gelhardt emerged from a photoshoot yesterday, spotted a football and natural instinct took over. He wants to do what comes naturally, in the position that best permits it, for new Leeds United boss Daniel Farke and he's excited to be back.
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-youngster-targets-position-at-centre-of-transfer-speculation-in-daniel-farke-system-4232597
.....
Gelhardt readily admits that his favoured position is 10, adding the usual caveat that he'll play wherever Daniel Farke puts him. On Saturday against Monaco it was in the 10 role that Gelhardt featured as a second half substitute and there was a glimpse or two of that desire to get at defenders. One neat turn took him into space and allowed him to find Daniel James, the attack flowing through Gelhardt quite naturally.
....
"I just play football how I have since I was a young lad. I've never changed anything. And the hype and stuff that doesn't doesn't faze me. Whether people say good, or bad stuff. I've always played the same type of football that I've always played.
Mer Joffy-stuff :)
(et minutts intrvju)
https://twitter.com/LeedsUnitedYEP/status/1684156620320788485?s=20
-
Graham Smyth
@GrahamSmyth
Joe Gelhardt emerged from a photoshoot yesterday, spotted a football and natural instinct took over. He wants to do what comes naturally, in the position that best permits it, for new Leeds United boss Daniel Farke and he's excited to be back.
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-youngster-targets-position-at-centre-of-transfer-speculation-in-daniel-farke-system-4232597
.....
Gelhardt readily admits that his favoured position is 10, adding the usual caveat that he'll play wherever Daniel Farke puts him. On Saturday against Monaco it was in the 10 role that Gelhardt featured as a second half substitute and there was a glimpse or two of that desire to get at defenders. One neat turn took him into space and allowed him to find Daniel James, the attack flowing through Gelhardt quite naturally.
....
"I just play football how I have since I was a young lad. I've never changed anything. And the hype and stuff that doesn't doesn't faze me. Whether people say good, or bad stuff. I've always played the same type of football that I've always played.
Mer Joffy-stuff :)
(et minutts intrvju)
https://twitter.com/LeedsUnitedYEP/status/1684156620320788485?s=20
I intervjuet kommer det fram at Gelhardt ikke har hatt én-til-én-samtale med Farke. Det skulle man kanskje tro han hadde gjort hvis Gelhardt ble sett som en kandidat til å fylle rollen som 10-er? Joffy har noen egenskaper som ville passet bra - god i boks i situasjoner hvor 10-eren flytter opp som ekstra spiss, bra driv med ball, et godt langskudd og sannsynligvis en bra terrier defensivt mot motstandernes defensive midtbane. Men har han det i seg å se de geniale pasningsalternativene som de gode 10-erne varter opp med i ny og ne? Vi har vel ikke sett nok av ham til å konkludere, men jeg kan i alle fall ikke huske noen konkrete eksempler på "boksåpneren" Gelhardt i de sjansene han har fått.
-
Så ingenting i Sunderland som skulle tilsi at han er aktuell som tier hos oss.
-
Så ingenting i Sunderland som skulle tilsi at han er aktuell som tier hos oss.
Fra artikkelen:
A loan move to Sunderland in January of last season was designed to give him chances in a more natural position as a second striker, playing off targetman Ross Stewart.
Gelhardt joined the Championship play-off hopefules on January 27 and the very next day Sewart ruptured his Achilles tendon in an FA Cup game. Goodbye second striker role, hello life as a lone forward.
"When I spoke to Tony Mobray the Sunderland manager he said that I was supposed to play with Ross Stewart but when he got injured Tony said you're probably going to play up front on your own," said Gelhardt.
"I've played there before, I didn't see it as much of a problem but it was tough some games, big centre-halfs, strong and physical. Sometimes it can be lonely up there on your own but I felt as though at the end of the season I got better and got used to it more and i enjoyed it."
-
Så to Sunderland-kamper. Da var han ikke utpreget spiss.