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KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« på: September 20, 2021, 09:30:16 »
Båre èn dag til neste kamp - ligacupen som det het i gamle dager.

Kampen sies å gå på tv :)

Vi har en rekke spillere som ikke kan spille, og så spørs det hvordan Bielsa tenker mht resten.

Er det tids for et cuprun denne sesongen?
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« Svar #1 på: September 20, 2021, 09:37:08 »
Timingen er god for å få testet nivået til U23- gutta i denne synes jeg- i tillegg til at noen av våre for hvilt før West Ham kamp på lørdagen.
U23 spiller jo ikke før fredag igjen , så dette tåler noen av de.

Kampen går på Viasat 2 - så håper å SE både Gelhardt, Bate, Greenwood, Miller og Cresswell i denne- samt farten til Summerville.
Spent på hvor alvorlig skaden til Ayling er. Dette blir karantene kamp no 2 for Strujic, så KUN  Cooper som er friskmeldt i tillegg til evt unggutter som stoppere.

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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #2 på: September 20, 2021, 09:55:00 »
Lag?

Meslier (men kan godt være Klaesson får stå denne)

Drameh - Cresswell -  Cooper  - Firpo

Phillips

Summerville -  Klich - Shackleton - James

Roberts

Det kan være at Rodrigo får spille på topp...
Shackleton skal spille. Men på midtbanen (slik eg håper, eller på backen?)

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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #3 på: September 20, 2021, 09:58:26 »
Leeds-Live lister opp 7 aktuelle fra U23 til denne kampen.
Det betyr jo ikke at de nødvendigvis er aktuelle fra start...
Drameh og Gelhardt fikk jo 90 minutter på søndagen så 90 minutter tirsdag blir gjerne noe tett på hverandre...

Charlie Cresswell
Cody Drameh
Liam McCarron
Crysencio Summerville
Stuart McKinstry
Sam Greenwood
Joe Gelhardt

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/seven-under-23s-prospects-who-21614979
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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #4 på: September 20, 2021, 10:45:18 »
...leste nettopp Cherrys innlegg på nytt.

Bate, ja!

Han var ikke involvert i går (U23).
Han skal bankers inn på midte. :)

Sorry, Cody. Det blir Shackleton på backen det...
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« Svar #5 på: September 20, 2021, 10:54:29 »
...leste nettopp Cherrys innlegg på nytt.

Bate, ja!

Han var ikke involvert i går (U23).

Han skal bankers inn på midte. :)

Sorry, Cody. Det blir Shackleton på backen det...
???
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« Svar #6 på: September 20, 2021, 10:59:10 »
...leste nettopp Cherrys innlegg på nytt.

Bate, ja!

Han var ikke involvert i går (U23).

Han skal bankers inn på midte. :)

Sorry, Cody. Det blir Shackleton på backen det...
???

OK, you got me there...    ;D ;D ;D
Det stod plutselig så klart for meg at Bate spilte jo ikke i går.

vel, ehhh

Leeds-Live, player ratings:
Lewis Bate - 6
Tick-tock. Moved through the thirds well and looked more comfortable in the second half but Bate was given the task of playing as No. 6, No. 8 and No. 10 throughout the game.

Versatility is a useful trait at Leeds United but not the standout performer today. Nevertheless, part of a midfield which controlled the game from start to finish.

Tror nok ikke Bate spiller 90 minutter på tirsdag, nei.. :o
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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #7 på: September 20, 2021, 16:31:04 »
Tipper Bamford uansett ikke ville spilt...


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A bit of early team news - Patrick Bamford has not traveled with the Leeds United team for tomorrow’s League Cup clash with Fulham.

In Bamford’s absence, who would you like to start up front - and do you think Leeds should be playing a full strength team in the cup?
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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #8 på: September 20, 2021, 19:33:24 »
Fulham har sine skadeproblemer de også...

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-fulham-key-attacker-21616525

I tillegg er det vel slik med lag i toppen av Championship at serie er LITT viktigere enn cup...
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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #9 på: September 21, 2021, 07:02:47 »
Fulham har sine skadeproblemer de også...

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-fulham-key-attacker-21616525

I tillegg er det vel slik med lag i toppen av Championship at serie er LITT viktigere enn cup...
Det samme gjelder bunn av Premier League.. Vi er på bare bones om dagen. Kjør på med U23 og ta smellen

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« Svar #10 på: September 21, 2021, 09:07:49 »
Fulham har sine skadeproblemer de også...

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-fulham-key-attacker-21616525

I tillegg er det vel slik med lag i toppen av Championship at serie er LITT viktigere enn cup...
Det samme gjelder bunn av Premier League.. Vi er på bare bones om dagen. Kjør på med U23 og ta smellen
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« Svar #11 på: September 21, 2021, 09:44:24 »
Vises denne på TV?
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« Svar #12 på: September 21, 2021, 09:48:36 »
Vises denne på TV?
Jepp, viasat/viaplay viser den

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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #13 på: September 21, 2021, 10:49:29 »
Graham Smyth velger dagens startere...

'If I was Marcelo Bielsa' - picking the Leeds United XI to face Fulham in Carabao Cup action
If I was Marcelo Bielsa I would not start Joe Gelhardt at Fulham, but I would give him a Leeds United debut.
By Graham SmythTuesday, 21st September 2021, 6:33 am


The Carabao Cup had taken on a somewhat different feel for the Whites this season, thanks to the strength and experience of the side Bielsa put out to face Crewe Alexandra in round two.

The expectation was, based on Bielsa’s previous treatment of cup fixtures, that a young team featuring some of the high-potential Under-23s would welcome the Railywaymen to Elland Road. The reality was a starting line-up made entirely of first teamers and a further four seniors on the bench.

Bielsa put together convincing arguments for each of his starters, players who needed minutes in their legs, players coming back from injury or whose form could benefit from another game. Of course, there’s no suggestion that Bielsa wanted anything but wins from any of the knockout fixtures he has taken charge of since 2018, but that was as strong a side as any he has fielded for one and it was always going to give rise to hope that Leeds might just fancy a cup run this season.

Two things have since put the Carabao Cup in a somewhat different light, though.

Firstly, the draw for the third round. It could have been an awful lot kinder. Fulham present as stiff a test as lies outside the Premier League, having responded to relegation by adding quality to new head coach Marco Silva’s squad and hitting the ground sprinting in the Championship. They are bang in form and Leeds, it has to be said, are not. Crewe are the only side Bielsa’s men have beaten this season.

Secondly, everywhere you looked at St James’ Park on Friday night, players were limping. Patrick Bamford was hobbling around and managed to finish the game, while both Luke Ayling and Raphinha had to come off through knocks sustained in the 1-1 draw with the Magpies for which Diego Llorente, Robin Koch, Pascal Struijk and Jack Harrison were all unavailable.

When a formidable, eighth-placed West Ham United are looming ominously on the horizon, a cup game at Fulham suddenly seems a little less important and a lot less likely to feature anyone with even the slightest of niggles.

So who should play?

Gelhardt, surely must, after a pair of goals so spectacular they could nail down the first- and second-place Premier League 2 Goal of the Season prizes? We all know it’s not as simple as that. Gelhardt has been tearing it up for the Under-23s almost since his arrival and still has not managed to displace any of Bielsa’s senior attackers. Two wondergoals and an assist to boot pumped the volume on calls for him to finally get his opportunity yet, having played 90 minutes on Sunday, it would be a surprise to see him start.

If I was Bielsa, I would bring him on for the second half or at least the final 30 minutes, almost entirely regardless of the scoreline because, as the head coach said himself, you don’t know when a player is ready for first-team football until they play. If not now, when? His confidence is sky high, he’s not only taking shots from anywhere but putting them in the back of the net and, while he’s clearly a patient young man who understands the road to the top is long, at some stage he’s going to need to see evidence of a way forward.

The man I would start up top is Tyler Roberts, a player in need of minutes, form and confidence. A goal, you feel, would do him the world of good. Behind him would be Rodrigo, to give the Spaniard a chance to build on a more positive outing at Newcastle, with Crysencio Summerville, fresh from a first-team debut, on one wing and Daniel James, still finding his feet with Bielsaball, on the other.

Adam Forshaw would get the first 45 minutes to an hour as the NO 8, having recovered from his calf injury to play 30 minutes at Liverpool academy on Sunday, before being replaced by Mateusz Klich to see the game out.

Kalvin Phillips would take up his normal role to give the side continuity and help combat Fulham’s attacking threat, with Jamie Shackleton on the bench ready to give him a break.

The injuries at centre-half would mean Liam Cooper could not take the night off and Charlie Cresswell would come in alongside him, with Junior Firpo at left-back and Cody Drameh, every bit as exciting a prospect as Gelhardt, at right-back.

Illan Meslier, in goal, would complete the side.

Selecting a team for this game is really very easy, so simple in fact that anyone could do it. Where it becomes difficult is when you are actually Marcelo Bielsa and you have in front of you a report from Rob Price and his medical team and when you have to weigh up the recommended workloads of each player, the skillset of the individual they might come up against at Fulham and the knowledge you have, from seeing them day in and day out in training, of exactly where they are in terms of their footballing development and their understanding of the team’s style of play.

Chucking Gelhardt in sounds fun but, if he’s not quite ready and struggles, then the fun stops pretty quickly not only for the player but the fans growing ever more impatient to see him, and the head coach who then has to address the performance in the media and pick up the pieces in training in the days after.

Bielsa has spoken before, at length, about making decisions that are right for the player and right for the team, at the right time.

Crewe presented a no-win, damned-if-you-do scenario in terms of team selection and picking a team to play Fulham, given the context of injuries, the five-game winless Premier League streak, the form of individuals and the mood around the club, looks no easier.

If he plays Gelhardt, it might be fun. If he doesn’t, it will be for good reason.

I’ll let Bielsa be Bielsa, if it’s all the same.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/if-i-was-marcelo-bielsa-picking-the-leeds-united-xi-to-face-fulham-in-carabao-cup-action-3390194
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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #14 på: September 21, 2021, 11:30:33 »
Meslier - Shack, Cooper, Cresswell, Firpo - Phillips - Summerville, Klich, Roberts, James - Rodrigo

Overrasker meg hvis dette IKKE blir laget - eneste er om Forshaw starter eller ikke.
Joffy spilte 90 min om søndag og starter nok på benken - Cresswell spilte kun 45.
Bielsa tok nok lærdom fra cupene i fjor og stiller sterkt lag.
I tillegg trenger en del fra A-laget kamper (Firpo, Shackleton, Summerville, Roberts)
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Cherry

Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #15 på: September 21, 2021, 11:50:51 »
Meslier - Shack, Cooper, Cresswell, Firpo - Phillips - Summerville, Klich, Roberts, James - Rodrigo

Overrasker meg hvis dette IKKE blir laget - eneste er om Forshaw starter eller ikke.
Joffy spilte 90 min om søndag og starter nok på benken - Cresswell spilte kun 45.
Bielsa tok nok lærdom fra cupene i fjor og stiller sterkt lag.
I tillegg trenger en del fra A-laget kamper (Firpo, Shackleton, Summerville, Roberts)

Om ikke vi så det ift benken vi stilte med mot Toon`på lørdag, så vil vi knakje også kunne oppleve i dag hvor sterk stall vi har-
ettersom det vil være muligheter til å prøve ut våre beste fra U23.
Fulham sliter med spillere tilgjengelige de også, så da blir det nok ganske likt utgangspunkt!

Håper vi øser på i god gammelt Bielsa stil....med ungutter - og høyt press og masse guts! ! ;)

RoarG

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« Svar #16 på: September 21, 2021, 12:19:31 »
Meslier - Shack, Cooper, Cresswell, Firpo - Phillips - Summerville, Klich, Roberts, James - Rodrigo

Overrasker meg hvis dette IKKE blir laget - eneste er om Forshaw starter eller ikke.
Joffy spilte 90 min om søndag og starter nok på benken - Cresswell spilte kun 45.
Bielsa tok nok lærdom fra cupene i fjor og stiller sterkt lag.
I tillegg trenger en del fra A-laget kamper (Firpo, Shackleton, Summerville, Roberts)
Spar Phillips. Ellers enig. Dallas inn for Phillips.
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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #17 på: September 21, 2021, 18:24:05 »
Uff. Har lyst å se i kveld, men 329,- er litt vilt for en kamp. Skulle ønsker jeg bodde i nærleiken av en pub.

Stut og Fjærkre

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« Svar #18 på: September 21, 2021, 19:42:41 »
Sju fra førstelaget, fire forsvare og tre angripere hjemme i Leeds. Skal bli en interessant kveld.

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KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #19 på: September 21, 2021, 19:47:25 »



Firpo stopper? Ingen Cooper eller Ayling...

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« Svar #20 på: September 21, 2021, 19:49:47 »
Ser ut til å være:

Meslier - Shackleton, Cresswell, Firpo, Dallas - Phillips - Summerville, Klich, Roberts, James - Rodrigo

Mulig at Rodrigo og Roberts bytter plass.

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« Svar #21 på: September 21, 2021, 19:55:46 »
Vi har i utgangspunktet 4 - fire - midtstoppere. Ingen er med 8). Cooper er vel ikke skada - bare spares?
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« Svar #22 på: September 21, 2021, 20:02:22 »
Rimelig kjapp rise for Leo. Nettopp fylt atten, og på benken for Premier League-klubben Leeds.
I teorien er han bare en midtstopperskade fra å entre banen.
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« Svar #23 på: September 21, 2021, 20:02:29 »
Ser det spekuleres i på Waccoe at kanskje Phillips spiller stopper. Da blir det vel Dallas eventuelt Klich i Phillips-rollen.

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« Svar #24 på: September 21, 2021, 20:03:31 »

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Leeds with two Norwegians (Klaesson and Hjelde) in their squad for a match for the first time since May 2000 against Everton - Eirik Bakke started and Alf Inge Haaland came off the bench. Haaland's son Erling was born in Leeds two months later. #lufc
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« Svar #25 på: September 21, 2021, 20:23:21 »
Ser det spekuleres i på Waccoe at kanskje Phillips spiller stopper. Da blir det vel Dallas eventuelt Klich i Phillips-rollen.

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Vil nok kanskje være tryggere å sette Phillips inn som midtstopper sammen med Cresswell i stedet for å la han debutere sammen med den ferske venstrebacken. Time vill sjåvv.
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« Svar #26 på: September 21, 2021, 20:34:43 »
Hei. Har noen en link som funker med bilde om man ikke har Viaplay etc?
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« Svar #27 på: September 21, 2021, 20:43:19 »
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« Svar #28 på: September 21, 2021, 20:43:19 »
Dallas dagens kaptein.
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Sv: KAMP vs Fulham @Craven Cottage 21.9 kl 20:45 Carabao Cup
« Svar #29 på: September 21, 2021, 20:46:45 »
Kveldens tips:

2-1 til Fulham og exit. Rodrigo med målet.

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