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samadhi

Nå kl 22:00 begynner en times sammendrag fra e-cupfinalen mellom Leeds og Bayern Munchen fra 1975.

For de som finner det interessant  :)
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marching on together,
derudaf forever...

samadhi

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« Svar #1 på: Mai 23, 2011, 22:56:35 »
Ble tap denne gangen også gitt.

Har aldri sett denne kampen før så artig å se.
Leeds dominerte kampen fullstendig, men Bayern kontret inn to mål.

Som det har vært sagt tusen gangen før så blir jo Leeds offer for en forferdelig dommer.
2 soleklare straffer i 1.omgang, og en horribel annulering av Leeds mål i 2.omg.
Alle situasjoner på stillingen 0-0...

Men dette visste vel de fleste fra før  :)
marching on together,
derudaf forever...

lojosang

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« Svar #2 på: Mai 24, 2011, 01:41:50 »
Ble tap denne gangen også gitt.

HVA! Grayson ut! Skal han aldri lære?  >:(
- Leif Olav

LEO

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« Svar #3 på: Mai 24, 2011, 07:43:00 »
Ser ikke bort i fra dommer`n var kjøpt og betalt.

jævlig tulling av en dommer
 

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« Svar #4 på: Mai 24, 2011, 10:16:44 »
Ble tap denne gangen også gitt.

HVA! Grayson ut! Skal han aldri lære?  >:(




 ;D Kongekommentar!!!
Yeboahs vitne

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« Svar #5 på: Mai 19, 2012, 10:29:54 »
Her er vel kanskje grunnen til at Bayern MÃ…TTE vinne kampen i 1975:

Bayern’s wage bill was about £2million a year. They got only £900,000 in Bundesliga gate receipts and £750,000 from the European run. They lost £350,000 that season. Before the European Cup final against Leeds in 1975, the press spoke of a “match for Bayern’s existence”.

French referee Michel Kitabdjian denied Leeds two penalties and ruled out a Peter Lorimer goal. Roth scored and Leeds fans hurled missiles, tore up seats and began fighting. Muller, called Short Fat Muller by his first coach, sealed victory and a mission began for the hat-trick. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said: “Franz [Beckenbauer] said the team needed new faces and was asked if he knew of any. ‘Yes,’ said Franz and pointed at me. ‘He’s one but he’s a bit idle like a sausage and doesn’t do very much’. I was right next to him and almost insulted but it also made me more motivated.”

 :o

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/321119
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #7 på: Mai 28, 2014, 16:59:29 »
Thirty-Nine Years Ago Today: Leeds Mugged by Ref & Kaiser in European Cup Final – by Rob Atkinson
Posted on 28/05/2014 | Leave a comment
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Yorath avoids a red card – but nothing else went right for Leeds United
The Great European Cup Final Robbery occurred 39 years ago today – half a lifetime’s distance in the past - and yet this, more than just about any other of the many injustices suffered by that legendary team, still sticks in the collective craw of Leeds United fans, many of whom weren’t even born on that balmy May night so long ago.  It still rankles with us, to the extent that it defines how we feel about our much sinned-against club to this day.  So, 39 years on, we still sing “We are the Champions, Champions of Europe” in ritual protest – but in our hearts, believing, knowing it to be true.

The story of this match may be summed up in a series of snapshots; incidents that told us, ever more clearly as the game progressed, which way the wind was blowing.  There was a pair of blatant penalty shouts in the first half, the guilty man on both occasions being Franz “der Kaiser” Beckenbauer.  First he handled obviously and unmissably in the area, and then followed that up by perpetrating an illegal “scissors” tackle on Allan Clarke, inside the box on the left – you wondered how anyone could possibly fail to give either decision, unless they were irretrievably, foully bent.  But the corkscrew-straight Michel Kitabdjian unblushingly neglected his duty on both occasions, earning himself a permanent place in every Leeds fan’s Black Museum.

Before these vital non-decisions, Terry Yorath - the first Welshman to play in Europe’s biggest match, before Gareth Bale was even a twinkle in his dad’s eye – had sailed into Bayern’s Björn Andersson in what team-mate Uli Hoeness described as “the most brutal foul I think I have ever seen”.  The only question arising out of that first period of play was whether Leeds United’s card was marked by the ref from the time of that 4th minute assault by Yorath – or whether, indeed, the matter was decided long before kick off.


Lorimer’s greatest goal that never was
Leeds were completely outplaying Bayern, drawing sympathy even from the English TV commentator who was bemoaning the lack of a more even contest.  Then, in the second half, the ball fell perfectly for Peter Lorimer just outside the Bayern penalty area.  Lorimer timed his volley superbly, and it flew into the net, beating Sepp Maier all ends up.  Then, all was confusion as the goal seemed to be given, until Beckenbauer urgently directed the ref to speak to his linesman.  More confusion - then the goal was disallowed.  Bayern scored twice against a demoralised Leeds near the end, and the European Cup was snatched from the hands of Revie’s old guard; the triumph that was to crown their magnificent careers torn away in the most dubious fashion imaginable.

It was the second of a hat-trick of dubious triumphs for Bayern from 1974-76, at a time when the German influence in UEFA was as strong as that of the Italians (whose Milan side had taken the Cup Winners Cup from Leeds in an even more bent match two years earlier) – and far, far stronger than that of the unpopular English.  This defeat of a gallant and far superior on the night United side was probably the luckiest Munich victory of the three – but a year before, they’d been on the point of losing to Atlético Madrid before a last-gasp equaliser enabled them to win in a one-sided replay.  And in 1976, Bayern were outplayed by St Etienne, but managed somehow to prevail for a third year on the trot.


Bremner disbelieving after Leeds’ “goal” chalked off
Leeds fans will always look at the collection of stars emblazoned arrogantly over the Bayern badge – and we will always say: one of those should have been ours. May 28 1975 was one of those pivotal nights in United’s history and, as happened frankly far too often, things turned against us – setting us on the low road when we should have been triumphantly plotting a course onwards and upwards.  Things were never the same for Leeds United afterwards; Johnny Giles played his last game in a white shirt that night, which signalled the start of the break-up process, under the continuing stewardship of Jimmy Armfield, for Don Revie’s peerless Super Leeds team.  How different things might have been – but that’s the story of our great club’s history; fortune has rarely smiled upon us and justice has usually gone AWOL at the crucial moments.

So it was then, so it has been ever since and so, doubtless, it will continue to be for Leeds - who always seem to cop for the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune to a pitilessly unfair degree.  Still, that’s why we love ‘em, and that’s why we so relish the hate of others.  But if there could have been one night when things went right – when we actually managed once to get our just deserts – then for me it would have been that evening in the Parc des Princes in May 1975.  Not for me, not for you – but chiefly for those white-shirted heroes who had waited so long to be acknowledged as the best in Europe, and who had proved it by outplaying the favourites – before being gruesomely cheated yet again.

Leeds United – Champions of Europe.  We all know we have a right to sing that song, loud and proud.  Long may it continue to serve as a reminder of the night that the “Der Kaiser & Kitabdjian” double-act robbed The Greatest of their rightful crown.

 :o
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Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #8 på: Februar 28, 2015, 09:18:56 »
En dyptgående analyse av finalen i serievinnercupen 1975

http://www.bayernforum.com/blog/happy-birthday-frank-gray-an-analysis-of-the-european-champions-cup-final-of-1975


Happy Birthday Frank Gray
An Analysis of the European Champions Cup Final of 1975
“Happy Birthday Frank Who?”, you may ask. Well, let me explain.


Frank Gray in his Leeds United kit
Frank Gray was born on the 27th of October 1954 in Castlemilk, a southern suburb of Glasgow, Scotland. Little is known of his youth or his life outside of football, except that he spent most of his playing and managerial career in the shadow of his older brother, acclaimed Scottish international and Leeds United icon Eddie Gray. This, of course, and coupled with the fact that Frank, too, played for Leeds United, must have sparked inferiority complexes inside of him. Inferiority complexes that should ultimately lead to outbursts of rage, violence and an insatiable lust for blood.

Well, that last part may or may not be true as it is completely a product of my imagination, but it is an undeniable fact, that one fateful night in May of 1975, the 28th of, to be precise, Frank Gray committed a violent foul that should prove to be pivotal in the history of FC Bayern München: On 28th of May 1975, the night of the European Champions Cup Final between Leeds United A.F.C. and FC Bayern München, Frank Gray injured Uli Hoeneß so badly, that the latter had to end his career prematurely four years later at the age of 27.

A mere four months after he had played his last game, Uli Hoeneß took the job of Business Manager at Bayern München on the 1st of July 1979. The club was in heavy debt at the time (11 Million Deutsche Mark), but Uli Hoeneß, during the next three decades, should form it into the undisputed number one in German football and into a European powerhouse, feared even by elite clubs like Real Madrid, who call Bayern München “La Bestia Negra” out of fear of and respect for the Bavarians. Bayern’s finances are second to no other football club not only in Germany, but in the entire world.

Meanwhile Frank Gray should never step out of the shadow cast by his older brother Eddie. For example he never managed a team playing higher than in the Conference National (today’s Blue Square Bet Premier), while Eddie was still, as late as 2004, called up as caretaker of both brothers’ beloved Leeds United.

But chin up, Frank! We at FC Bayern will always have a place for you in our hearts for being so pivotal in helping Uli Hoeneß find his true calling. Thus, your part in making the FC Bayern into the club it is today, is not a small one.

Thank you, and Happy 58th Birthday, Frank Gray.

The Match
Now let’s take a look at the actual match, shall we?


The teams before the match.
On the left: Leeds United A.F.C.
On the right: FC Bayern München

Georg “Katsche” Schwarzenbeck
Bayern’s Vorstopper
Bayern started in a 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 hybrid with Bernd Dürnberger, Franz Beckenbauer and Björn Andersson as the back-three.  Franz Roth completed our nominal five-man defense together with Georg “Katsche” Schwarzenbeck, who played in front of Beckenbauer in a position that in Germany is best known as “Vorstopper” (literally: pre-stopper). A Vorstopper usually man-marks the opposing No.9 striker, while the Sweeper/Libero (Beckenbauer) marks the zone behind the Vorstopper. Vorstoppers were traditionally very big guys, not very good with the ball, but very scary for strikers when they got near them. Their traditional shirt number was the number 4, and a German expression goes: “Kein Mensch, kein Tier, die Nummer vier!” (“Not man, not animal, the number four!”) It loses something in the translation and without the rhyme, but it should be clear what type of person was required to play a good Vorstopper. Examples of great German Vorstoppers include: Katsche Schwarzenbeck, Karl-Heinz Förster, Ditmar Jakobs and to an extent even players as late as Guido Buchwald and Jürgen Kohler.

With the advent of a flat back-four in the nineties the Vorstopper role fell out of fashion, as did the role of the Libero. Instead both made way for two zonally defending center backs.


Starting Lineup Bayern
In midfield Bayern played with Conny Torstensson, Rainer Zobel and Hans-Josef “Jupp” Kapellmann. Gerd Müller and Uli Hoeneß were our strikers, with Müller playing centrally and Hoeneß often drifting out wide and to the right.

Leeds, going into the match as the odds-on favorites, went into the game fielding a “true” 3-5-2 if you will, a formation that was very common in the seventies. And Leeds interpreted it extremely offensively that night. With Billy Bremner, Paul Madeley and Norman Hunter they used three center backs together with two extremely offensively playing wing backs. Namely Paul Reaney on the right and today’s birthday boy Frank Gray on the left.


Starting Lineup Leeds
Terry Yorath, Alan Clarke and Johnny Giles packed the center of the pitch (supported by their wing backs on the flanks) and the two nominal strikers Peter Lorimer and Joe Jordan tried to wreak havoc in and around Bayern’s 18-yard box.

(Hit “Esc” on your keyboard if you wish to stop the animation from playing on after watching it.)


Later the Austrian commentator in my video will say that Andersson broke a kneecap in this challenge.
Before we start with the actual analysis, I should mention that the first substitution for Bayern was forced a mere four minutes into the game after a vicious foul by Terry Yorath on Björn Andersson. A foul that should have gotten Yorath sent off, but whether the rules in the seventies were different or the referee was just bad, I don’t know. Fact is, that a second earlier he had already called the foul from Frank Gray on Hans-Josef Kapellmann, so when the challenge on Andersson happened we had a factual “dead ball” situation.


Björn Andersson
Bayern’s Youth Coordinator
You can see in the animation above that after calling the foul on Kapellmann, the referee is visibly continuing to observe the action, and there’s no way he missed the recklessness of Yorath’s challenge. Today dead ball or not would not matter (and, to be honest, I doubt it did then), and Yorath would have been sent packing. Plus, he would have received a minimum of five games suspension. Needless to say, he did not even receive a yellow card and play went on without Björn Andersson. Josef “Sepp” Weiß replaced him for the remainder of the match.

Just as Hoeneß, Andersson, too, should never fully recover from this injury, and just as Hoeneß, Andersson, too, should take up an administrative position at FC Bayern München. A position that he holds to this day: Youth Coordinator.

Bayern Super Deep. Bayern Super Shaky.


Above the “Z” of “Zobel” you can see the corner of Bayern’s 18-yard box.
Bayern started the game extremely defensively, routinely dropping incredibly deep during Leeds’ attacks. The screenshot to the right is from around the 8th or 9th minute. We see Giles with the ball and masses of space far inside Bayern’s territory. We see Bayern’s two strikers, Hoeneß and Müller deep inside their own half and (not all of them in the frame) a total of seven Bayern players in or very near their own 18-yard box.

To begin the game, Bayern looked incredibly shaky in buildup as well, often losing the ball in their own half or trying long balls to their strikers, who, in all reality, acted more like box-to-box midfielders than strikers. At that time, early in the first half, no one gave Bayern the slightest chance to win this game. While a very deep defensive approach like Bayern’s was nothing too uncommon in these days, it was the fact that they didn’t attack their opponents at all until they were already well within scoring distance, coupled with the inability to create anything offensively, that made them look like they wouldn’t be able to defend their title from 1974.

Even Müller dropping so deep was nothing too astonishing. This was 1975 and the football world was admiring the Dutch “Total Football” which routinely saw nominal Striker Johann Cruijff prototyping today’s “False Nine” role and dropping very deep in defense as well as during buildup. However Gerd Müller was not Johann Cruijff and Bayern would have done better to play him more as a classical number 9, while at the same time pushing higher up the pitch with the whole rest of the team.

Leeds Dominating But Not Forcing Enough.

Leeds had no trouble whatsoever to control every aspect of the match during the first half. They dominated possession and they were sound defensively. However they were unable to create a lot of forcing chances. They tried long-range shots from time to time and those were not completely without danger, thanks to the Bayern defense not interfering with Leeds’ movements in front of the Bayern box. All of those missed narrowly, though. Actually getting into Bayern’s box proved to be naturally difficult with Bayern packing it with six or seven players routinely.

However, twice they managed to create danger inside of the box. In around the 32nd minute a goal kick from Maier went directly to Leeds’ pivotal playmaker and excellently performing Johnny Giles who hit an accurate long ball directly onto Alan Clarke’s head on the edge of the box, who headed it to Joe Jordan. Jordan struck an accurate ball on target, However, there was one man left to beat. Sepp “The Cat of Anzing” Maier not only saved the ball brilliantly. No, instead of punching it away, he simply caught it like a boss.

The second time they got dangerously into the box, Clarke managed to get past Beckenbauer in the 39th minute and got fouled by him near the baseline. The french referee decided corner kick, but a penaltly should have been in order.

More of the Same, and Some Good Old “Bayern Dusel” to Boot

The second half really didn’t bring a whole lot of change. Bayern tried to close down just a tad earlier, but it’s really not worth mentioning. Leeds still enjoyed a massive amount of space and all the time in the world inside the opponents’ half of the pitch. They kept dominating and it seemed only a matter of time until they score. Also, in the 58th minute it should have been Katsche Schwarzenbeck who should have been sent off with at least a second yellow (which was straight red back then, as there was no such thing as a yellow/red card). He committed a dangerous challenge from behind on Joe Jordan near the touchline, but got away with a very stern warning by the overall poorly performing referee Michel Kitabdjan of France.

In the 65th minute a freekick from the left reached Leeds’ skipper Bremner on the edge of the 6-yard box, who had one man left to beat. You might have guessed it. Sepp Maier, once again, held on to Bayern’s clean sheet with his incredible reflexes.

Only a minute later, however, it was Lorimer who was free near the penalty spot after a set piece, and his excellent volley slammed into the back of the net in a way that not even Maier could prevent, and Leeds were deservedly 1:0 up.

Or Were They?


There was no such thing as “Passive Offside” back in the seventies.
The referee ruled goal, but then “Kaiser” Franz Beckenbauer, Bayern’s captain, started talking to him insistently. He kept pointing to the linesman, claiming it was offside. After consulting with his linesman, Kitabdjan eventually reversed his decision and ruled offside. On the one hand the correct decision, surely. On the other hand this was not exactly the moment in the match where he cemented his authority or control over the match.

Then in the 71st minute, Bayern, in what felt like the first time in the second half, crossed the halfway line with the ball. Bayern’s nominally most offensive player, Gerd Müller, received the ball in defensive midfield and played a long ball up to Torstensen on the edge of the box, who saw Roth free to his left. Roth placed the ball into the far corner, past Leeds’ keeper Stewart, and from one second to the Next Bayern were 1:0 up. Completely and utterly against the run of play.

Now, 1:0 down and feeling betrayed by the referee, the rage had built up too much in the stands behind Maier’s goal, where Leeds’ supporters ceased the opportunity to start a good ol’ fashioned football riot inside the stadium during a European Champions Cup Final. Ah, those were the days. In the 75th minute the French referee even interrupted the match because of objects that were thrown onto the pitch into the direction of Sepp Maier.

Play resumed shortly thereafter, though, and amidst the first Leeds supporters trying a pitch invasion, manager Jimmy Armfield sent in his Last Hurrah: The aforementioned older brother of Frank, Eddie Gray, was to replace Terry Yorath, to maybe turn it around in the last minutes of the match.

But, alas, it just wasn’t meant to be that day. Merely a minute after the substitution, Kapellmann delivered a low cross into the box, where Gerd Müller, for a change, was actually positioned (and excellently so, I might add) to make it 2:0 and bury all of Leeds’ hopes to turn this game around.


“Kaiser” Franz Beckenbauer with the trophy
And so it came that FC Bayern München “Parked the Bus” in a European Cup  final, at a time where that term wasn’t even invented yet. So the next time, my fellow Bayern fans, when you feel yourself loathing the likes of Chelsea or any other overly defensive team, snatching victory from the favorites, hold your punches and show a bit of humility. Bayern were, by far, the worse side in this final, yet they did come up on top in the end to make it 2 for 2, which should ultimately end up 3 for 3 one year later in Palotai, Hungary, when they beat AS St. Etienne in their third European Champions Cup Final in a row.

And what was it with Frank Gray and Uli Hoeneß, you might be asking yourself. Well, to be honest, I do ask myself this a little bit, too. I had written that first part a few days ago, before I had watched the game. When you research Hoeneß’ injury on the internet, all you find is this “vicious” challenge by Frank Gray (no pictures of it, of course, much less video). I have to say, I didn’t see an overly hard challenge by him, and I have now watched the entire game (twice actually). Hoeneß had to be treated on the sidelines twice in this game, and one of those times was after a 1on1 with Gray, yes, but I can’t see anything vicious in that scene, sorry. Maybe something happened that wasn’t captured by the cameras, or maybe it’s just one of these myths. The results are more important, anyways. We won the cup, and Uli Hoeneß led us through three decades of glory and beyond. And the rest, as they say, is history.

I hope you liked my first, longer than anticipated, article for this blog, and if you have made it to here, I have to congratulate and thank you for reading until the end.

Until next time...
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Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Jon R

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« Svar #9 på: Februar 28, 2015, 11:25:07 »
Han som skrev det her må ha vært full. 3-5-2 formasjon med  Billy Bremner som midtstopper og  Alan Clarke på sentral midtbane....
Jon R.

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« Svar #10 på: Februar 28, 2015, 11:30:51 »
Han som skrev det her må ha vært full. 3-5-2 formasjon med  Billy Bremner som midtstopper og  Alan Clarke på sentral midtbane....

 ;)

Litt ute å kjøre sånn taktikkmessig. Men han har fått med seg noen sannheter.
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Cherry

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« Svar #11 på: Mars 01, 2015, 18:58:12 »
Sannheten er vel begravd av UEFA/ FIFA .... Dommeren " forsvant" fra jordens overflate.... Dømte han noen gang igjen? Clarke ble klipt ned av Kaizer Franz, som hadde en fan i den franske, kjøpte , ubrukelige dommeren...og han dømte det Beckenbauer sa og mente i denne kampen!

Grusomt den dag i dag.
 

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« Svar #12 på: Mars 01, 2015, 19:00:44 »
Sannheten er vel begravd av UEFA/ FIFA .... Dommeren " forsvant" fra jordens overflate.... Dømte han noen gang igjen? Clarke ble klipt ned av Kaizer Franz, som hadde en fan i den franske, kjøpte , ubrukelige dommeren...og han dømte det Beckenbauer sa og mente i denne kampen!

Grusomt den dag i dag.
även mot Milan i cupvinnracupfinalen förstörde domaren dagen
 

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« Svar #14 på: Mars 01, 2015, 22:45:29 »
Looking for Kitabdjian – Part 1
Posted on January 27th, 2011 by TBG

EXACTLY 30 years after the 1975 European Cup Final against Bayern Munich in Paris, I issued 75 limited edition T-shirts to mark the most notorious night in Leeds United’s history. The design featured an image of the referee flanked by French riot police – his whistle on pursed lips, baton beginning to bow under downward pressure. I’d never seen a photograph of referee Michel Kitabdjian’s face so I made it up. It bore a title – The Beaten Generation – that I nicked from a track by the band The The which seemed to sum up much about the night the Revie era ended for real.

The Don was there, in the commentary box speaking to a national TV audience of more than 24 million people. I wasn’t there because I was yet to be born, but this game means a lot to me because, like everyone else, as soon as I became infatuated with Leeds United I wanted to know everything there was to know and my dad told me it. He’d followed Leeds all over the place in the 60s and 70s and had two tickets for the game but didn’t go. Despite my thirst for knowledge I’ve never asked him why, but I know he’s glad he didn’t.

There was a time I would tell anyone who’d listen that as far as I was concerned this was the definitive moment in Leeds United’s history; that the stories surrounding it had to be heard to be believed and that I would tell them. Wednesday 28th May 1975 was my dad’s 35th birthday, and I said I would write a book before mine. I’m 34 now so this article will have to do.

Folklorically speaking, this Leeds game is like no other. By the time they arrived at French ports, several cross-channel ferries – like most of their passengers – were worse for wear. Paris quickly became the scene of a white, blue and yellow invasion where spirits were as high as the exchange rate, so supermarket booze aisles were relieved of their stocks with inevitable consequences.

Encounters with those who did make the trek to the Parc des Princes would see me wring them dry of anecdotes (like the one about the pair who hitch-hiked to Dover with a tent and enough food for a fortnight, were turned back by customs at Calais but on their return to Leeds embarked on a second, successful, trip to Paris by coach), but it wasn’t until I found myself in British Library, sitting in the dark, poring over microfilm of the dailies from that week in the mid 1970s that I finally asked myself: what was I looking for?

I was looking for Kitabdjian. Beckenbauer, Maier and Muller we know and loathe but little’s heard about the Nice-born referee, so inconspicuous when in charge of the first of our two 1970 European Cup clashes with Celtic. So what the hell happened in Paris five years later? Did he blink when Beckenbauer first handled the ball, then tripped Clarke in the box? What sort of offside chat is there to be had with a linesman who’s standing on the half-way line awaiting the restart?

This article concludes here on TBG tomorrow and appears in issue 6 of The Square Ball magazine. Buy it online now for just £1.

See also: Leeds United, T-shirts, The Square Ball | 5 Comments »
5 Responses to “Looking for Kitabdjian – Part 1”
Paul Daniels | Jan 27, 2011 at 12:27 pm
I was there, aged 19. I’ll read the rest tomorrow, and maybe contribute then, but just to be going on with: it was the night that the Revie era ended for real, but you have to consider the whole year between the Don’s resignation and this night. Liverpool thrived after Shankly, Leeds just let their head’s drop after Revie. It didn’t have to happen.

Chris | Jan 27, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Impressed by your knowledge of the Paris trip in view of the fact that you weren’t there. I’m sure you don’t need telling not to believe all you read in the media. We did the “Lowfields to Paris in 3 days with no sleep” return trip for £20. Great team, great days, great memories, gut-wrenching result!!

Keep Fighting... | Jan 27, 2011 at 7:15 pm
As ever, great stuff – He would be in his 80’s – assuming the fella is still alive – still time to track him down for an interview & unleash 36 years of hurt on behalf of the Beaten Generation (and all of us who were not around at the time!!)…

TBG | Jan 27, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Kitabdjian is indeed alive, by all accounts. It had crossed my mind to try to make contact, but my interest in all this doesn’t extend to doorstepping an old man in Nice. I heard that Gary Edwards was on the case so who knows, we may yet hear from him.

Anyway, thanks for all your comments. A change of direction tomorrow as we visit Kitabdjian’s desert ding-dong in the land of fish stew…

sid | Feb 5, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Even after that dis-allowed goal -for 80 minutes Europe once again belonged to Leeds that night – So majestic was our play it should have been the rightful conclusion to an era of our unparalleled domestic domination of the English game up to that point – The WACCOE chant that evolved was not based on this result alone however … It was the commulation of a decade of despise,resentment and hatred in which the football world held Leeds in contempt….. The big game outcomes were always a chance for their revenge….

It’s what’s made a certain breed of Leeds Fan ,over a certain age ,the bitter & twisted bastards we are……… A Great site mate you’ve got here…
Regards Steak
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Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #15 på: Mars 01, 2015, 22:50:05 »
Looking for Kitabdjian - Part 2

LIKE MANY cardboard boxes under many beds in many back bedrooms, mine contains a pile of old football magazines. Some are from the 1970s. Some are French. Two reveal a secret about one of the most talked about referees in Leeds United’s history. A lot’s said about Michel Kitabdjian – that he was bribed, that he never officiated again – but one thing’s for sure: Leeds v Bayern wasn’t the only game he let spiral out of hand.

Two stalemates in Tunis and Casablanca meant Tunisia and Morocco would play-off on neutral ground for a place at the 1970 World Cup finals in Mexico. The Mediterranean melting pot of Marseille and its Stade Vélodrome were the natural choice and on Friday 13th June 1969 the scene was set. In unabating sunshine, Tunisian goals three minutes from the start and the end of the regulation 90 minutes cancelled out two Moroccan strikes and the game headed into extra time. Thirty further merciless minutes demanded that the tie would be decided in the manner of the day: the toss of a coin.

Enter Michel Kitabdjian. ‘I sent for a coin of Moroccan design,’ he explains in conversation with Football Magazine in the week of the 1975 final. ‘Alas the Tunisians, already outraged at the state of the pitch, claimed the coin should be in their favour.’ On this occasion he fails to mention what transpired, which was thankfully dredged up by some quarters of the French press in the aftermath of the debacle in Paris.

‘In the middle of about 100 excited onlookers,’ my dog-eared copy of Miroir du Foot reports, ‘Kitabdjian launched the coin and the Tunisian captain Habacha leapt into the air.’ But something fishy was going on in Marseille – and I’m not talking bouillabaisse. Much like Lorimer’s, it was short-lived joy for Tunisia because Kitabdjian ‘changed his mind, annulled the verdict and locked himself in the changing room where the coin “chose” Morocco!’

Well, well, well. Six years later, despite describing the episode as a ‘farce’ the referee remained unembarrassed at his role. ‘It’s the match, I recall,’ he said with a hint of pride, ‘Which prompted FIFA to approve penalties and abolish the coin toss.’

He’s got a lot to answer for, that Michel Kitabdjian. Not only is his name synonymous with scandal but anyone who’s ever won or lost on penalties did so because of him. Yet it seems that nobody outside France – except for us in Leeds or perhaps the odd souk in Tunis – has ever heard of him. He may be ‘that French referee’ to most Leeds fans but he’s the reason that – because my old man could’ve but didn’t – I wish I’d gone to Paris in May 1975 but sadly for me, I didn’t yet exist. C’est la vie.

This article appears in issue 6 of The Square Ball magazine. Buy it online now for just £1.

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3 Responses to “Looking for Kitabdjian – Part 2”
Paul Daniels | Jan 28, 2011 at 3:07 pm
I dunno, I think that ‘we wuz robbed’ is much more the problem than the solution. Leeds fans sang ‘We wu’ robbed at Villa Park’ for years, and the same things you are saying about this ref are said about the refereee of the Cup-Winners’ Cup final against AC Milan in 1973, and Ray Tinkler let West Brom score an offside goal, and we were too jaded to seal the double at Wolves, and I’m sure I’ve forgotten some.

Great teams don’t build up a victim myth, they score last-minute goals. That’s what makes them great. You don’t have to like Beckenbauer, but he took 1966 on the chin and then went on to win everything else he ever touched.

It would interest me more to know why Revie’s Leeds so often came 2nd in two-horse races.

eric olthwaite | Oct 20, 2011 at 11:49 pm
It’s that man again:

http://tdifh.blogspot.com/2011/10/20-october-1968-lots-may-be-fair-but.html

TBG | Oct 21, 2011 at 12:03 am
So it turns out our Michel couldn’t even remember which flipping game of his it was which prompted FIFA to introduce penalties? Thanks Eric, this pantalonnade shall have a part three.
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« Svar #16 på: Mars 01, 2015, 22:55:07 »
A sad night for English football

LEEDS UNITED & THE 1975 EUROPEAN CUP FINAL
FIRST PUBLISHED: 90 Minutes, May 1990
By Chris Hunt
 
After leading the Second Division for most of the 1989-90 season, Leeds United finally secured their return to the top flight – as champions, if only on goal difference – with a victory at Bournemouth. That the match was marred by the same kind of violence that marked the club’s exit from footballing prominence 15 years earlier is both sad and ironic.
 
Leeds should have been able to bask in a few minutes of glory as they entered a new and glorious era, but more than anything else, that championship-clinching match echoed the events of one of the worst nights in the history of the club – and of English football as a whole.
 
Exactly 15 years ago this week, on 28 May 1975, Leeds United saw a ten-year footballing dream evaporate, as Bayern Munich snatched the European Cup from their grasp. But as if defeat on the pitch were not humiliating enough, Leeds’ fans heaped insult upon injury and ran riot, first on the terraces, then through the streets of Paris. At the biggest event in the European football calendar, before the cameras of a Continent, the followers of Leeds United – or at least a maniacal percentage of them – killed the spirit of soccer.
 
Long before Heysel and the banning of English club football from Europe, and even longer before the scenes at Bournemouth jeopardised the lifting of that ban, Leeds United became the first English club to be tried and sentenced on the behaviour of their fans, and were excluded from European competition for five years.
 
It wasn’t planned to end that way. It should have been the greatest day in the history of Leeds United, the crowning accolade in a 12-year near domination of the game. After ten years and 87 matches of European football, Leeds were finally within reach of the only major trophy that had always eluded them. But the most notorious runners-up in British football were once again destined to be the bridesmaids.
 
Fifteen years ago, the clear, crisp voice of Alan Parry carried the tension of a warm, taut Paris evening to radios across Britain. “This is the night Leeds United are within sight of the greatest European prize of them all,” he intoned, bringing listeners to the edge of their seats a full 15 minutes before kick-off. “In the spectacular setting of one of the world’s most modern stadiums, they meet Bayern Munich in what could be their final try for the trophy they’ve always dreamed of. It’s English football’s greatest night for years, Leeds United’s biggest night ever.”
 
A whistle blow and the match was under way. Leeds took immediate control, and Bayern pulled all 11 men back into their own half of the field. The immaculate Irishman, Johnny Giles, was running the midfield single-handed, providing ‘Hot Shot’ Peter Lorimer (the man with the hardest shot in football, scientifically measured at 72mph) with plenty of chances to run fast and shoot hard.
 
Seven minutes from half-time and Allan Clarke, the ballerina-like England forward, was chopped down in desperation by the usually gentlemanly Franz Beckenbauer. The crowd roared its disapproval while Parry, in a frenzy of breathless excitement, relayed the event to living rooms around the country: “The ball falls to Giles, Giles forward to Clarke, Clarke goes forward… AND CLARKE SEEMS TO BE BROUGHT DOWN TO ME. The Leeds players are furiously appealing for a penalty as Clarke lies thrown down in the box…” The appeal was denied.
 
At half-time, with the score-sheet blank, Dettmar Kramer was a happy man. The Bayern manager had insisted that if his team could hold the first half, the match would be theirs. But the Leeds onslaught continued into the second period, with Brian Butler nearly falling from his commentator’s stool in the 67th minute, as Lorimer unleashed a mighty volley that flew past Sepp Maier to caress the Bayern net. The linesman sprinted to the halfway line and took up his position for the restart. But the man in the middle spotted a Leeds player standing in an offside position, and though his team-mates complained bitterly that he could not have been interfering with play (well, how can anyone interfere with a shot that’s travelling that fast?), the goal was disallowed.
 
Leeds had dominated the game for nearly an hour, but suddenly they looked vulnerable to a counter-attack. Kappelmann broke free on the right, crossed to Roth, and Roth struck home. Simple as that. A travesty. And a tragedy.
 
The 15,000 Leeds supporters could not contain themselves, and in a fit of rage, a section of them showered the pitch with debris ripped from the body of the Parc des Princes. The match was halted as Leeds skipper Billy Bremner appealed for calm.
 
Stunned by the speed with which their superiority had vanished, frustrated at the behaviour of their own fans, Leeds United froze. Another Kappelmann break, a final flourish from Gerd Muller, and Leeds were left for dead.
 
French riot police were ordered into the stadium as the match entered its dismal, dying minutes. They were equipped with truncheons, helmets, and shields, but they were no match for the madmen on the terraces, who fled the ground after the final whistle and went on the rampage, ‘car-bouncing’ their way through the most beautiful city in Europe.
 
In the television studio, Bobby Charlton read the lament for English club soccer, saying of Bayern’s tactics: “If this is what the sweeper system does for football, I hope we never see it in Britain.”
 
His voice was choked, but not as choked as the shouts of the Leeds fans whose actions had earned their club the distinction of being the first English team to be banned from European competition.
 
The ban ended ten uninterrupted years of Continental campaigning by Leeds, and effectively put paid to a dream Don Revie had first nurtured when he took over at Elland Road in the early Sixties and, inspired by the European success of Real Madrid, changed the team strip to all white. Five of the men who helped Leeds to the Second Division Championship in 1964 (Reaney, Madeley, Bremner, Hunter, Giles) trudged off the pitch defeated in Paris, and though Revie had by that time risen to the post of England manager and been replaced by Jimmy Armfield, the stability of the Leeds line-up was a tribute to Revie’s careful moulding and maturing of talent.
 
It was also a tribute to the attitude of total professionalism which Revie had instilled in his players – an attitude which spilled over into the hearts and bodies of Leeds United’s supporters, and which, ultimately, sparked the violence that proved football was no longer just a game.
 
On the pitch and off it, Leeds were to win at any cost. And they did. Everything but the European Cup, that is.
 
 
http://www.chrishunt.biz/features50.html
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« Svar #17 på: Mars 01, 2015, 23:02:07 »
Noen sier at Michel Kitabdjian ikke fikk dømme etter finalen i 1975, det stemmer ikke ifølge denne siden og hans dømte kamper:

http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.arbitres.michel.kitabdjian.1638.en.html

 ::)
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« Svar #18 på: Mars 04, 2015, 10:40:52 »
Noen sier at Michel Kitabdjian ikke fikk dømme etter finalen i 1975, det stemmer ikke ifølge denne siden og hans dømte kamper:

http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.arbitres.michel.kitabdjian.1638.en.html

 ::)


Måtte nok ikke dømme, da han sikkert var søkkrik etter europacupfinalen..... ::)
Yeboahs vitne

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« Svar #19 på: Mars 06, 2015, 12:36:14 »
Noen sier at Michel Kitabdjian ikke fikk dømme etter finalen i 1975, det stemmer ikke ifølge denne siden og hans dømte kamper:

http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.arbitres.michel.kitabdjian.1638.en.html

 ::)


Måtte nok ikke dømme, da han sikkert var søkkrik etter europacupfinalen..... ::)

Skulle likt og sjekket konto og eventuelt nye eiendeler etter den finalen ja... :(
 

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« Svar #20 på: Mai 26, 2015, 20:38:55 »
40 år siden. Like sårt:


Leeds United: Painful wounds bound to be opened by anniversary


Terry Yorath, Johnny Giles, Billy Bremner, Joe Jordan and Peter Lorimer protest to referee Michel Kitabdjian who disallowed Lorimer's goal during the European Cup Final in Paris on May 28, 1975.
Leon Wobschall
06:23Tuesday 26 May 2015
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THE fortieth anniversary of one of the greatest injustices English football has ever seen arrives on Thursday – and for former Leeds United defender Frank Gray, it will open up a painful wound.

The date was May 28, 1975 and the venue was the Parc de Princes stadium in Paris. The scoreline dictated that Bayern Munich won the European Cup after a 2-0 win over the Whites, courtesy of goals from Franz Roth and Der Bomber himself in Gerd Muller, but it did not tell half of the story.

Gray was just 20 when he lined up alongside his team-mates for the biggest game of his life and while he went on to lift the European Cup later on in his career with Nottingham Forest, his colleagues weren’t so fortunate.

Wretched refereeing from Frenchman Michel Kitabdjian denied Leeds becoming just the second English side to lift the continent’s big prize, with that dark Parisian evening becoming an infamous one in the history of Leeds United.

Just two years after the shambolic officiating by Greek referee Christos Michas in the European Cup-Winners’ Cup Final against AC Milan, Leeds found themselves on the wrong end of more awful decisions.

Two penalty appeals went against Leeds in a first half which they dominated, most notably when Allan Clarke was blatantly fouled by ‘Der Kaiser’ Frank Beckenbauer.

Worse, if that was possible, was to come in the second half, when in the 66th minute, a perfectly legitimate volley from Peter Lorimer was chalked off for a perceived off-side offence, with Billy Bremner supposedly the culprit.

Kitabdjian awarded a goal, but upon conferring with the officials, he incredibly changed his mind.


It was the prelude to all hell breaking loose in the Leeds end, with a barrel load of salt applied by virtue of two Bayern goals.

The immediate legacy may have been riotous scenes, but for Gray, the defeat had longer-term ramifications and denoted the gradual demise of Leeds United as one of the super-powers in the English game.

It was certainly a sad and unjustified end to the Leeds careers of several greats, including Bremner and Johnny Giles and one that will rankle with the United family forever and a day.

And for Gray, memories of that regrettable night arrived on the television recently.


Gray, 60, whose elder brother Eddie was on the bench and came on during the game for Terry Yorath, said: “I think if we’d won that, things would have been totally different for Leeds United.

“A lot of the older players, such as Johnny and Billy, were coming towards the end of their careers after the European Cup final.

“It would have been easier to attract the top players if we were European champions and we could well have continued after that.

“Not winning the European Cup final was a big defining point in Leeds history.

“It was sad. I watched a documentary on Bayern Munich on Sky and all their players were talking about that game saying that they should not have won it.


“And that all the referee’s decisions went their way and that Peter’s goal was a goal and that it should have been a penalty.

“We knew we should have won that game and we were the better team that night, no doubt about that.

“Bayern knew that as well and it was one of those games.

“It was a defining moment in the decline of the club after that, definitely.

“If we’d won that, it would have been totally different.”

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« Svar #21 på: Mai 26, 2015, 23:15:34 »
Bayern Munchen - Leeds United 28.05.75



Stolt øyeblikk i Leeds' historie : Billy Bremner hilser på Franz Beckenbauer før finalen

Josch

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« Svar #22 på: Mai 26, 2015, 23:24:56 »


Mistenkelig mye gikk imot Leeds denne kvelden.
Her en straffesituasjon der Keiseren feller "Sniffer" Clarke, ganske klart.

Høydepunkter:
https://www.facebook.com/TheScratchingShed/videos/101517613211786/

2. omgang:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpu64r_leeds-united-v-bayern-munich-european-cup-final-20-5-75-second-half_sport
« Siste redigering: Mai 26, 2015, 23:47:18 av Josch »

Woody

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« Svar #23 på: Mai 26, 2015, 23:29:01 »
Bayern Munchen - Leeds United 28.05.75



Stolt øyeblikk i Leeds' historie : Billy Bremner hilser på Franz Beckenbauer før finalen

Stolt øyeblikk for LEEDS men fortsatt en skam for bayern...
LIFE IS LEEDS

Josch

Sv: FINALE I SERIEVINNERCUPEN: 1975 Leeds United - Bayern Munchen
« Svar #24 på: Mai 26, 2015, 23:38:26 »
Målet som ble annulert



65 min: Lorimer (midt i bildet) sin kanon ble uforståelig annulert av dommeren etter å ha godkjent målet. Bayern- spillerne leide dommeren bort til linjemannen og fikk det annulert!!
Bremner var visstnok i offside (på linjen foran mål).

Kampen er i ettertid regnet som en skandale og dommerens karriere tok brått slutt.
« Siste redigering: Mai 26, 2015, 23:39:59 av Josch »

Josch

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« Svar #25 på: Mai 27, 2015, 00:01:22 »
Revie's gutter



Det var Don Revie's gutter som spilte, selv om Jimmy Armfield var manager. Leeds manglet viktige Gordon McQueen (stopper, rødt kort i semifinale). Duncan McKenzie (spiss i form) var utelatt fordi Armfield ville at  Revie's lag skulle spille denne finalen.  Førstekeeper Harvey var skadet. Stewart sto i mål.

Vi må berømme Armfield som ledet laget helt til finalen! Han tok over etter Brian  Clough, etter ca 10 kamper ut i sesongen. Barcelona (med Johan  Cruyff og  Neeskens) ble slått i semifinalen!!

De slo ut: FC Zurich, Ujpest Dozsa, Anderlech og  Barcelona.

Laget: Stewart- Gray, Madeley, Hunter, Reaney - Yorath, Giles, Bremner, Lorimer - Jordan, Clarke

Dette er det siste vi så av Super-Leeds på høyt nivå!!
« Siste redigering: Mai 27, 2015, 23:18:22 av Josch »

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« Svar #26 på: Mai 27, 2015, 00:36:16 »
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Josch

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« Svar #27 på: Mai 27, 2015, 23:45:46 »
"“It was sad. I watched a documentary on Bayern Munich on Sky and all their players were talking about that game saying that they should not have won it."

Frank Gray til YEP




YEPs ferske artikkel om finalen:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-painful-wounds-bound-to-be-opened-by-anniversary-1-7277834




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« Svar #28 på: Mai 28, 2015, 22:57:56 »
Video med analyse av situasjonene i kampen:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2rv67t

Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Kontakinte

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« Svar #29 på: Mai 28, 2015, 23:10:44 »
Derfor jeg hater BM ja! På lik linje med `pool :(