Emne: Leeds fansen bør gå i seg selv

[h.b]

Det er en skam at de ødelegger for fotballen rykte ved å oppføre seg slik. Er ikke stolt av hva enkelte av Leeds fnsen gjorde på Turf Moor
http://www.footballtradedirectory.com/news/2011/november/leeds-fans-in-shame-at-turf-moor.html?

[kalle_92]

En skam!

[Andersen]

Hooligans og annen pøbel finnes vist hos oss ennå! 

[Tom S]

Morons!

[Hallgeir *]

Jeg har aldri forstått hva som går gjennom hodet på sånne typer. Og alle disse er registrerte medlemmer, går jeg ut fra, siden de kommer inn på bortekampene.

Det eneste som duger for å få bukt med svineriet, er utestengelse fra all organisert fotball på livstid.

[Dennis]

Idioter finnes overalt og Leeds er inget unntak. Var ikke vi klubben som 'stolt' kunne tittulere oss med flest registrerte hooligans under EM1996?

Trådtittelen var derimot svært misvisende. Dette gjelder en brøkdel av fanskaren.

 

[Jon R]

Sånn. Nå har jeg gått i meg selv. Klarer ikke helt å identifisere meg med disse 6 karene. Min teori at dette er de ekte morons.  

[Bites Yer Legs]

Nå skal det sies at en liten del av Burnley-fansen, som sto rett nedenfor bortetribunen, visstnok skal ha sunget Istanbul-sanger. Noe som har ført til et kollektivt sinne fra Leeds-fansen, såpass at folk ikke fikk med seg 1-1-målet. Om det er da det overnevnte skjedde vet jeg ikke, men er vel ikke helt umulig å tenke seg. "Kilden" er Waccoe-forumet, jeg registrete at flere kommenterte det etter kampen og også nå i kjølvannet av denne artikkelen som opprinnelig er fra Lancashire Telegraph.

[mac_gyver]

Alle i England har noen sånne fans. Ingen lag som har perfekte supportere.

[Sydhagen]

Enig med Kaizer. Dette er bare en pitteliten gjeng og da blir det litt feil at Leedsfansen skal gå i seg selv. Er helt sikker på at 99% av Leedsfansen er helt OK.

Uansett, så burde de karene som gjorde dette bli utestengt fra Elland Road og tatt fra medlemsskapet i Leeds.

[4ever arcticwhite]

I den grad det er snakk om å "gå i seg selv" i denne situasjonen, så må det jo være at den ekte fansen bistår politi og klubbledelse med å identifisere idiotene, slik at man får dem bort fra klubben og kampene.

[Cherry]

Kommentaren som er under innlegget/reportasjen sier mer synes jeg - men unnskylder jo ikke
selve reaksjonen fra disse som reiv opp setene....
Uansett blir de antagelig fanget opp av kameraene - og straffet.

[Kjell Skjerven]

Ein Burnley supporter blei arrestert staar det,men det var minst to Burnley fans som blei geleida ut fra stadion av politiet.

[auren]

Ein Burnley supporter blei arrestert staar det,men det var minst to Burnley fans som blei geleida ut fra stadion av politiet.

Hvor mange seter klarte du å rive opp Kjell? 

auren

[RoarG]

Tullinger finnes overalt. Etter et pub-besøk er det lite som skal til for å ty til "morsomheter". Får håpe at klubben klarer å luke ut rasket. De får følge kampene via media heretter.

[Svend Anders]

Hvorfor skal vanlige Leedsfans gå i seg selv for en håndfull idioters opptreden?

Forøvrig ingenting i saken om hjemmefansen som sang om Istanbul, som jeg forsto holdt på helt frem til vi begynte å score.

SA

[Hobben]

Hvorfor skal Leeds-fansen gå i seg selv? Disse tullingene er ikke fan, de er idioter.

[B_Ød]

Hvorfor skal Leeds-fansen gå i seg selv? Disse tullingene er ikke fan, de er idioter.

Det tror jeg også..og turf er vel en yndet arena for slike duster til og "fremme sin sak"

[Geiremann]

Kanskje Leeds-fansen ikke trenger å gå så mye i seg selv allikevel.
Teksten under er hentet fra Waccoe-forumet, visstnok skrevet av en som ikke har Leeds som favoritt-lag.
Forøvrig meget godt skrevet 


White is the new black

There are four of us. We meet every other Thursday in the back room of a working men’s club. At this time of year, we shuffle in from the cold. All year round, we maintain the same hushed tones for fear of being overheard. For when we speak, we arrange words into sentences that are rarely heard outside of this room. Sentences such as: “I’m not a Leeds fan, but I actually quite like them”…

Artistic licence, granted, but there cannot be many people who would list Leeds United as their second favourite team. Even I wouldn’t, but I am growing to like them more and more as time goes on.

Every division needs a cartoon villain and Leeds probably fill this role in the Championship at present. Crawley Town are the team that supporters of League Two sides love to hate for the significant helping hand they receive from shady investors, while no reason is necessary for mentioning Milton Keynes of League One in a similar breath. Of course, Leeds haven’t moved an entire club to a different county or employed a convicted criminal as manager. They’re just Leeds.

Other Championship clubs have tried to muscle in on their status. Even four cities couldn’t displace Leeds though. Coventry City and Birmingham City both handed contracts to Marlon King. Cardiff City created an us-against-the-world mentality under Dave Jones and included perennial anti-heroes Craig Bellamy and Michael Chopra among their number last season. Leicester City have spent a portion of their millions this summer on niggly characters like David Nugent, Matt Mills and Jermaine Beckford. Yet none of these clubs are Leeds.

Or, to give them their full name, Dirty Leeds. This is where it all starts to fall down. Under Don Revie in the 1970s, Leeds were pretty dirty by all accounts. Billy Bremner, Norman Hunter and all that. And nowadays? Jonny Howson doesn’t quite inspire the same fear.

Nor does Elland Road for teams like Blackpool that go there, play three attacantes and score five at a canter. But visiting Leeds or the visit of Leeds still marks a special occasion in the calendar for most opposition supporters, as much as some may try to pretend otherwise.

Leeds recently came to my club’s ground and won, but – on an entirely personal level – their victory on our turf didn’t represent same gut-wrenching experience that it once would have. This was partly due to the way Championship football can grind you down. When you’ve visited countless flat-pack 32,000-seater stadia up and down the country all year, financed by opportunists from the Far East and populated by smug supporters of the latest club to be labelled the Barcelona of the Championship, the stigma attached to Leeds United is refreshing. It feels as close to proper football as we get these days at such a high level.

So when one of their midfielders placed an exquisite shot into the top corner from just outside the box and ran to celebrate with their jubilant sold-out section in the corner of the ground, it didn’t bring that sinking feeling to quite the same degree felt during similar successes in the past. The ability to take defeat is an important step in the life of becoming a well-rounded football supporter and I prefer losing to a club whose fans sell their entire allocation and sing their hearts out all game than… well, insert a club of your choice here.

I didn’t like seeing that ball hit the back of the net and I didn’t enjoy trooping away having seen my team lose but at least that moment in which a player performed a knee-slide in front of over 3,000 travelling fans gave me an iconic image to take away with me. And at least one set of fans went home happy. Every set of fans will create their own version of these scenes over the course of the season, but not all make the most of it like Leeds do – falling down rows of seats and savouring the moment rather than falling into line and clapping soon after that initial burst of exuberance – and that is always to be admired.

We can also empathise with Leeds more in the current climate. They have lost key players over the past couple of years and barely spent a penny in transfer fees to replace any of them. These aren’t the same players the national media always point to either. The likes of Viduka, Kewell, Ferdinand and co still seem to work their way into a disproportionate number of articles about the battle Leeds face to reclaim their long-lost Premier League status. I’m talking about players like Max Gradel, Jermaine Beckford and Fabien Delph – clearly not of the same standard to which Leeds fans became accustomed, but still stolen away by bigger clubs despite becoming heroes at Elland Road. We can all empathise with that feeling.

Most of us can also empathise with the struggle Leeds fans are currently going through. Most of us know what it’s like to have an owner we would prefer to be as far from our club as possible. Most of us have baulked at the ticket prices we are charged at Elland Road this season. Imagine that every other week.

It’s an overall feel so it’s difficult to talk specifics. It is nevertheless important to try to dig down into things a little. Not just throwaway words like tradition and history but the tangible sensation of visiting a ground that means something to so many people thanks to an album of events built up over a long period of time. There are so few of these places left to visit. Side with the fans rather than the owner. Nobody should be glad to see attendances begin to dwindle at Elland Road.

And few opposition supporters seem to acknowledge that while the national media obsess over Leeds returning to the Premier League and battling it out with Manchester United and Liverpool again, their presence in the Championship helps to prevent an endless procession of trips to identical football grounds reproduced in different colour schemes. Their three, four, five-thousand visiting fans bellowing for all they’re worth despite being a goal down is what all football supporters should aspire to (and you can argue the toss about this all you like – no other team in this country matches Leeds in this department). They shouldn’t be singing any more, but they probably still are.

Maybe this isn’t such an uncommon thing. Maybe I’m not alone. Let’s see. I’m not a Leeds United fan, but I actually quite like them. Your turn.

[Jon R]

Dette var en smått fantastisk hymne til Leeds supporterne du har funnet der, Geiremann. Fikk lyst til å kopiere den og sende den til Ken Bates som aldri helt har anerkjent hvilke fantastiske lojale og tålmodige fans denne klubben har. 

"Most of us can also empathise with the struggle Leeds fans are currently going through. Most of us know what it’s like to have an owner we would prefer to be as far from our club as possible. Most of us have baulked at the ticket prices we are charged at Elland Road this season. Imagine that every other week." 

Og denne..

@Their three, four, five-thousand visiting fans bellowing for all they’re worth despite being a goal down is what all football supporters should aspire to (and you can argue the toss about this all you like – no other team in this country matches Leeds in this department). They shouldn’t be singing any more, but they probably still are.@


Priceless! 

[B_Ød]

strålende stykke!

[Sydhagen]

Får en bra følelse når jeg leser dette

[Hallgeir *]

Ikke til å tro at dette er skrevet av en som har en annen favorittklubb enn vår! 

[Kickthemdown]

Det er en skam at de ødelegger for fotballen rykte ved å oppføre seg slik. Er ikke stolt av hva enkelte av Leeds fnsen gjorde på Turf Moor
http://www.footballtradedirectory.com/news/2011/november/leeds-fans-in-shame-at-turf-moor.html?

Ikke det minste skammelig i mine øyne ettersom de synger Istanbul sanger. Da fortjener de noen stolseter i retur. Ã… treseter som neppe tåler at man står på de fortjener å bli brent opp på et bål.

Ã… artikkelen til motstander supporteren er fantastisk !!

[h.b]

Jeg vet ikke om du får med deg hva Leeds fansen synger om Manu. Der går det i Munic disaster

[ollan]

Jeg vet ikke om du får med deg hva Leeds fansen synger om Manu. Der går det i Munic disaster

og sånn har det vært siden tidenes morgen andres ulykke blir til våres lykke osv... storm i vannglasset ditt håkon (forøvrig meldt skikkelig storm her vest i morgen)

[fmtj]

Kanskje Leeds-fansen ikke trenger å gå så mye i seg selv allikevel.
Teksten under er hentet fra Waccoe-forumet, visstnok skrevet av en som ikke har Leeds som favoritt-lag.
Forøvrig meget godt skrevet 


White is the new black

There are four of us. We meet every other Thursday in the back room of a working men’s club. At this time of year, we shuffle in from the cold. All year round, we maintain the same hushed tones for fear of being overheard. For when we speak, we arrange words into sentences that are rarely heard outside of this room. Sentences such as: “I’m not a Leeds fan, but I actually quite like them”…

Artistic licence, granted, but there cannot be many people who would list Leeds United as their second favourite team. Even I wouldn’t, but I am growing to like them more and more as time goes on.

Every division needs a cartoon villain and Leeds probably fill this role in the Championship at present. Crawley Town are the team that supporters of League Two sides love to hate for the significant helping hand they receive from shady investors, while no reason is necessary for mentioning Milton Keynes of League One in a similar breath. Of course, Leeds haven’t moved an entire club to a different county or employed a convicted criminal as manager. They’re just Leeds.

Other Championship clubs have tried to muscle in on their status. Even four cities couldn’t displace Leeds though. Coventry City and Birmingham City both handed contracts to Marlon King. Cardiff City created an us-against-the-world mentality under Dave Jones and included perennial anti-heroes Craig Bellamy and Michael Chopra among their number last season. Leicester City have spent a portion of their millions this summer on niggly characters like David Nugent, Matt Mills and Jermaine Beckford. Yet none of these clubs are Leeds.

Or, to give them their full name, Dirty Leeds. This is where it all starts to fall down. Under Don Revie in the 1970s, Leeds were pretty dirty by all accounts. Billy Bremner, Norman Hunter and all that. And nowadays? Jonny Howson doesn’t quite inspire the same fear.

Nor does Elland Road for teams like Blackpool that go there, play three attacantes and score five at a canter. But visiting Leeds or the visit of Leeds still marks a special occasion in the calendar for most opposition supporters, as much as some may try to pretend otherwise.

Leeds recently came to my club’s ground and won, but – on an entirely personal level – their victory on our turf didn’t represent same gut-wrenching experience that it once would have. This was partly due to the way Championship football can grind you down. When you’ve visited countless flat-pack 32,000-seater stadia up and down the country all year, financed by opportunists from the Far East and populated by smug supporters of the latest club to be labelled the Barcelona of the Championship, the stigma attached to Leeds United is refreshing. It feels as close to proper football as we get these days at such a high level.

So when one of their midfielders placed an exquisite shot into the top corner from just outside the box and ran to celebrate with their jubilant sold-out section in the corner of the ground, it didn’t bring that sinking feeling to quite the same degree felt during similar successes in the past. The ability to take defeat is an important step in the life of becoming a well-rounded football supporter and I prefer losing to a club whose fans sell their entire allocation and sing their hearts out all game than… well, insert a club of your choice here.

I didn’t like seeing that ball hit the back of the net and I didn’t enjoy trooping away having seen my team lose but at least that moment in which a player performed a knee-slide in front of over 3,000 travelling fans gave me an iconic image to take away with me. And at least one set of fans went home happy. Every set of fans will create their own version of these scenes over the course of the season, but not all make the most of it like Leeds do – falling down rows of seats and savouring the moment rather than falling into line and clapping soon after that initial burst of exuberance – and that is always to be admired.

We can also empathise with Leeds more in the current climate. They have lost key players over the past couple of years and barely spent a penny in transfer fees to replace any of them. These aren’t the same players the national media always point to either. The likes of Viduka, Kewell, Ferdinand and co still seem to work their way into a disproportionate number of articles about the battle Leeds face to reclaim their long-lost Premier League status. I’m talking about players like Max Gradel, Jermaine Beckford and Fabien Delph – clearly not of the same standard to which Leeds fans became accustomed, but still stolen away by bigger clubs despite becoming heroes at Elland Road. We can all empathise with that feeling.

Most of us can also empathise with the struggle Leeds fans are currently going through. Most of us know what it’s like to have an owner we would prefer to be as far from our club as possible. Most of us have baulked at the ticket prices we are charged at Elland Road this season. Imagine that every other week.

It’s an overall feel so it’s difficult to talk specifics. It is nevertheless important to try to dig down into things a little. Not just throwaway words like tradition and history but the tangible sensation of visiting a ground that means something to so many people thanks to an album of events built up over a long period of time. There are so few of these places left to visit. Side with the fans rather than the owner. Nobody should be glad to see attendances begin to dwindle at Elland Road.

And few opposition supporters seem to acknowledge that while the national media obsess over Leeds returning to the Premier League and battling it out with Manchester United and Liverpool again, their presence in the Championship helps to prevent an endless procession of trips to identical football grounds reproduced in different colour schemes. Their three, four, five-thousand visiting fans bellowing for all they’re worth despite being a goal down is what all football supporters should aspire to (and you can argue the toss about this all you like – no other team in this country matches Leeds in this department). They shouldn’t be singing any more, but they probably still are.

Maybe this isn’t such an uncommon thing. Maybe I’m not alone. Let’s see. I’m not a Leeds United fan, but I actually quite like them. Your turn.

Uakseptabelt å ramponere usansett hva Burnley fansen synger om!! Idioti. Så til stykket over....jeg blir fordundre meg litt rørt!!!!  MOT!!!!

[B_Ød]

Så til stykket over....jeg blir fordundre meg litt rørt!!!!  MOT!!!!

Da er vi to 

[SuperLeeds!]

Her har vi en annen, og kanskje riktigere? side av samme sak:

"Danny 2 comments
There are so many Burnley wrote articles about at the moment but I do doubt how biased they are. I was at the game, I was in the corner where it kicked off. Do you want to know why it kicked off. Burnley fans chanting Istanbul songs. I watched about 25 Burnley fans get kicked out in one small section. One had his little kids tagging along out of the ground with him. 35 seats broken is bull. About 10 people tried ripping the seats out. Half the seats are so ancient they look like they've being smashed up before we even get there. Cmon what kind of stadium has wooden seats. Out of 4000 fans, if you chant songs like that you should expect at least 10 to react, people lost their lives."

Sakset fra kommentarfeltet i nevnte artikkel H.B. Kanskje greit å prøve å få fram alle sider av saken:)

[TK20]

BATES OUT!