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Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4800 på: April 17, 2016, 21:05:34 »
Ã… ansette  Cannavaro, med lite trenererfaring (ikke noe  i England) ,  mener jeg er et sjansespill. Hvis han ikke lykkes må han sparkes til høsten og da er farsen komplett!!
Nesten bedre  å fortsette med  Evans og sparke ham hvis han gjør det dårlig.

Hvorfor skal Cannavaro lykkes bedre enn  Milanic, Hockaday og  Rosler? Men: Cannavaro tar neppe jobben om det ikke følger med  penger til kvalitetsspillere, så han har kanskje noe bedre forutsetninger likevel.


cannavaro har antagelig større muligheter til å trekke til seg gode spillere, enn hva Evans har. Evans ser mot Skotland. Og skotske spillere er ikke akkurat kremen på kaken da

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Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4801 på: April 17, 2016, 21:10:59 »
Ã… ansette  Cannavaro, med lite trenererfaring (ikke noe  i England) ,  mener jeg er et sjansespill. Hvis han ikke lykkes må han sparkes til høsten og da er farsen komplett!!
Nesten bedre  å fortsette med  Evans og sparke ham hvis han gjør det dårlig.

Hvorfor skal Cannavaro lykkes bedre enn  Milanic, Hockaday og  Rosler? Men: Cannavaro tar neppe jobben om det ikke følger med  penger til kvalitetsspillere, så han har kanskje noe bedre forutsetninger likevel.

Etter mitt ringe syn har farsen vært komplett en god stund nå.
Super Leeds since 1968

Josch

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4802 på: April 17, 2016, 21:11:27 »
Ã… ansette  Cannavaro, med lite trenererfaring (ikke noe  i England) ,  mener jeg er et sjansespill. Hvis han ikke lykkes må han sparkes til høsten og da er farsen komplett!!
Nesten bedre  å fortsette med  Evans og sparke ham hvis han gjør det dårlig.

Hvorfor skal Cannavaro lykkes bedre enn  Milanic, Hockaday og  Rosler? Men: Cannavaro tar neppe jobben om det ikke følger med  penger til kvalitetsspillere, så han har kanskje noe bedre forutsetninger likevel.


cannavaro har antagelig større muligheter til å trekke til seg gode spillere, enn hva Evans har. Evans ser mot Skotland. Og skotske spillere er ikke akkurat kremen på kaken da
Ja enig der .  Lite trenererfaring men desto bedre kontaktnett og tiltrekningskraft på spillere.

h.b

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Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4803 på: April 17, 2016, 21:13:04 »
Ã… ansette  Cannavaro, med lite trenererfaring (ikke noe  i England) ,  mener jeg er et sjansespill. Hvis han ikke lykkes må han sparkes til høsten og da er farsen komplett!!
Nesten bedre  å fortsette med  Evans og sparke ham hvis han gjør det dårlig.

Hvorfor skal Cannavaro lykkes bedre enn  Milanic, Hockaday og  Rosler? Men: Cannavaro tar neppe jobben om det ikke følger med  penger til kvalitetsspillere, så han har kanskje noe bedre forutsetninger likevel.


cannavaro har antagelig større muligheter til å trekke til seg gode spillere, enn hva Evans har. Evans ser mot Skotland. Og skotske spillere er ikke akkurat kremen på kaken da
Ja enig der .  Lite trenererfaring men desto bedre kontaktnett og tiltrekningskraft på spillere.

Men humor skal Cellino få for å ha. Sjelden jeg har ledd så godt som av dette
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/17/massimo-cellino-one-day-leeds-will-be-the-best-side-in-europe/?

Jon R

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4804 på: April 17, 2016, 22:17:56 »
http://simonaustinsport.blogspot.no/2016/04/andrea-iore-leeds-uniteds-head-of.html?m=1

I alle andre klubber enn Leeds hadde jeg vært 100% sikker på at dette er kødd..... Men når det gjelder Cellino.... Er jaggu usikker jeg
Ikke noen "nok en usannsynlig nyhet", dessverre. Dette navnet og historien om hans rolle har versert lenge. Dog ikke bekreftet noe sted så vidt jeg kan se.
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« Svar #4805 på: April 17, 2016, 22:35:19 »
Jeg legger ut hele artikkelen i fra The Telegraph:


Massimo Cellino: One day, Leeds will be the best side in Europe
 Massimo Cellino
Massimo Cellino: "Some think I’m Machiavellian." CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
 James Ducker
17 APRIL 2016 • 8:03PM
Massimo Cellino lights up his umpteenth cigarette, leans forward while drawing hard on his Merit filter, and begins to tackle his reputation as one of English football’s most controversial owners, and the latest perceived villain in the tragic modern history of Leeds United.

“I can be the best a---hole in the world but I’m not a bad person and I never want to hurt anyone,” he says. “I can be a pain in the a--- but I’m not a bad person. So when people say I’m dishonest, it hurts me.

“When I watch a movie, I’m the sort who wants the police to win, not the bad guys. Some think I’m Machiavellian. ‘You see, Massimo Cellino is a motherf-----.’ I’m not. Sometimes I do things without thinking but if I make a mistake people think I did it on purpose.

“When the fans call me a b------, it hurts me a lot, but I understand the fans who are p----- off. Maybe if I was in their position I’d say the same thing. They’re so used to eating s--- that they don’t believe something good could happen. So many times they’ve had the illusion of the right thing coming along so why should they believe Massimo Cellino is the right one?

“Can you imagine staying in Leeds when the people want to kill you? I’m depressed. People tell me to go away. F------ hell. But I’m not going away because I’m not a coward. Otherwise I’d have already run away.”

Cellino
Cellino: “I can be the best a---hole in the world but I’m not a bad person" CREDIT: GETTY
It is a bleak Thursday afternoon in Leeds and Cellino has cleared his schedule to talk to Telegraph Sport. His plush office on the second floor of Elland Road’s East Stand is a serene place but the ominous clouds that circle outside seem an appropriate metaphor for the fresh storms engulfing the 59-year-old Italian businessman.

A week after our meeting, Lucy Ward, the partner of former Leeds manager Neil Redfearn, won her case for unfair dismissal and sex discrimination against the Championship club, where she had worked as an academy welfare officer. A tribunal heard that Cellino had allegedly claimed in conversation with a Leeds official that women have no place in football and were better off in the bedroom or the beauticians. It followed news that Cellino’s youngest son, Edoardo, a Leeds director, had been charged by the Football Association for reputedly calling a supporter a “spastic” on social media.  Edoardo has commented, saying: “I did not fully understand the severity of the words used as English is not my first language. Again, I can only apologise.”

And on Saturday, around 1,000 supporters staged a protest march against the owner before the 3-2 victory at home to Reading, who just happen to be managed by Brian McDermott, the first of Cellino’s five managerial casualties in two years at the club.For a man appealing against a second ownership ban from the Football League for tax evasion in Italy, Cellino is accustomed to having a target on his back. But the Ward case could prove damaging and Leeds are also still awaiting judgment in another alleged wrongful dismissal case brought by former assistant manager Nigel Gibbs. Cellino seems to accept the Ward process could have been handled better but he refutes the sexism charge and questions how the tribunal panel could have given so much credence to Ward’s claim about that offensive remark he allegedly made to Gary Cooper, chairman of Leeds Ladies FC.

Massimo Cellino
Massimo alongside his son, Edoardo CREDIT: GETTY
“It’s been a trial against Massimo Cellino, not against Leeds,” he said. “I’m now supposed to be this man who hates women and has such a low of opinion of them that they’re only good for the bedroom. It’s a total lie. The only conversation I had with Gary Cooper was about money for the women’s team. I would never think of saying something like he claims. “Give me the choice and I’d employ a woman over a man every time because they work better. I had two women’s teams in America that won everything in Miami for 10 years. If I hated women, why would I have bothered? Any man who doesn’t respect women is low, not a man. I can accept a lot of things but not that.”

The speed with which Cellino seems to go through staff, and managers specifically, wins him few friends, though. He had 36 coaches in 22 years in charge of Italian club Cagliari Calcio. “I have a reputation as a coach eater, yes it’s true,” he says, but points out that, at Cagliari, the high turnover was in large part due to the club’s success earning his coaches bigger moves elsewhere. Still, now on his sixth manager at Leeds in Steve Evans, who seems unlikely to last beyond the end of the season. So does Cellino enjoy hiring and firing?

“I become a coward,” he explains. “I’m embarrassed. I don’t want to tell them. I don’t know which way to tell them. Most of the time I call someone else and ask them to do it. I know that’s not the best thing to do but I’m ashamed. But they go away with a pocket full of money and I’m the bad guy? What the f---?”  Cellino’s main problem with English football is the power afforded the manager and his assessments of most of those he has employed, from McDermott to Evans via David Hockaday, Darko Milanic, Redfearn and Uwe Rosler, are so withering they must remain off record. He is a staunch advocate of the director of football/head coach model, where the coach focuses on the team but leaves contracts, transfers and the rest to the sporting director. Nicola Salerno vacated that role last year and Cellino intends to appoint a replacement imminently.

“I cannot work with English managers,” Cellino says. “I never want to learn. I give up. When am I going to find a manager in England who is actually a coach? They want to control everything. But it’s wrong because when they go you have to start all over again.

“Sometimes to pretend we were f------ right we don’t fire the manager and most of the time we f--- the club because we won’t admit we took the wrong guy. Not everyone is Sir Alex Ferguson. All the other managers want to act like Ferguson but they don’t have the skills so they cause damage.”

Massimo Cellino
Massimo Cellino dislikes the power held by club manager CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
He would probably be prepared to cede more power to Jose Mourinho or Carlo Ancelotti, though. Mourinho is in line to take over at Manchester United this summer should Louis van Gaal depart but Cellino has done his best to entice the former Chelsea manager. “I told him, ‘If you had the balls, you should come and manage Leeds. Bring Leeds into the Premier League and then the Champions League. That’s balls.’ You want to play football – come with me to Leeds. Mourinho, like others, has to ask himself if he is still a coach. How do you find out? By going to Manchester United?

“Ancelotti called me. ‘Massimo, bring the club into the Premier League and I come to you because the only place I miss and want to go back to is England’. For me a good coach still has to show he’s a good coach. Come here and show me.”

Carlo Ancelotti
Cowardly Carlo Ancelotti preferred Bayern Munich to Leeds United CREDIT: EPA
Cellino is clear on what he wants from a coach. “If we lose but we tried to win I’m happy,” he explains. “We lose and we tried to draw – fired. That is Massimo Cellino.”

Reports that Fabio Cannavaro, the former Italy World Cup-winning defender, is in line to replace Evans were dismissed by Cellino. “I’m 100 per cent not looking to appoint Cannavaro as manager,” he said. “There’s not one chance.”

If there is a chance of Evans staying on, though, the ex- Rotherham United manager will have to quieten down. “He talks too much,” Cellino says. “He has to learn to shut his mouth. I’ve told him so many times to stop, you have no idea. But he doesn’t.”

Steve Evans
Steve Evans "has to learn how to shut his mouth" CREDIT: REX
At times over the course of five hours of conversation, it is hard to keep up with Cellino and, at one point, he casually drops in how he almost died – twice. The first time he was 18 when he got an embolism in a leg after deep sea scuba diving in Australia. “They brought me to hospital and I was effectively dead,” he says. “I couldn’t use my legs for two months. Everyone thought I’d be paralysed.”

Three years later, he ended up in a coma when his new Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer was written off “by a Fiat 127 that came out of a petrol station with its lights off”. The date of the accident stuck in his head – June 17, 1984 – and was the origin of his superstition about the number 17. “Every 17 is a s--- for me,” he says.

Cellino believes firmly in the paranormal and is convinced someone has put a curse on Leeds. “We were not winning at home, I brought a priest here, he blessed the field and a black crow flew away,” he whispers. “I’ve been fighting every day with this curse because I swear to God it does exist.”

Cellino
Cellino worries a curse has been put on his club CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
Cellino gives short shrift to the critics who accuse him of asset-stripping. Having reduced annual losses from £23 million to £2 million and got the wage bill under control, he believes he is now in a position to concentrate on football matters. “I couldn’t build a team before I had plugged all the leaking holes,” he said. “They can’t make me rush because if they do I can cause damage. You can’t compete in the Olympics until physically you’re ready to do so. I thought I knew everything about football but here I have had to start from zero again. Until now I’ve only spent about five per cent of my time looking at the playing side.”

A 223-day ban from the Football League would throw a huge spanner in the works if his appeal is unsuccessful but he hopes a solution is found soon.

“If someone has got a brain and we really care about football we will get it sorted out,” he said.

Cellino: You're not welcome
The Italian's relationship with the fans has been an uneasy one CREDIT: ROSS PARRY
If there is a fight he is unwilling to back away from, though, it is with Sky. Cellino infamously refused to let the Sky Sports cameras in for a Championship game against Derby in December before relenting, but he is not finished with them. He is adamant he is in favour of the collective selling of television rights. His problem is with Leeds being televised around 15 times a season when other clubs are shown only a handful of times for the same money and the crippling effect he believes that and ever-changing kick-off times will have on attendances at Elland Road. He is prepared to fight Sky through the courts if need be. “I am protecting Leeds,” he said. “If they weren’t hurting us financially they could put us on television every day.”

Cellino’s family have urged him to walk away but he still believes he can be Leeds’s saviour. “My daughter said last week, ‘Daddy, Leeds is killing you’,” he says. “I know but I don’t like to give up. The fans want to win but I want to win bigger. I don’t want to go into the Premier League then back. I want to go in the Premier League then compete for the Champions League.” 
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Lundewhites

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« Svar #4806 på: April 18, 2016, 08:31:37 »
HAS there ever been a more authentic template for how not to run a football club than Leeds?

By Jeremy Cross, Chief Sports Writer / Published 18th April 2016
Leeds

GETTY
LUCKLESS LEEDS: The fallen giants' problems grow from bad to worse
The initials LUFC used to represent the most successful club in the land, one that boasted a team of sublime talent that was feared throughout Europe.

A proud institution of success, leadership and respect.

One of those talents, the great Peter Lorimer, was spotted dining in one of his favourite restaurants last week looking tired, old and, dare we say it, slightly dishevelled even.

Lorimer has been suffering poor health, but in that one instant he appeared a sad symbol of his beloved club, one he graced with such distinction but one that has now become a pitiful shadow of its former self.

There used to be fun and laughter at Elland Road.

From the person employed just to clean the trophies in the bulging cabinet to the jovial press officer Dick Wright, who used to develop a rueful grin as mega-rich players sped from the training ground car park in their Porsches and Ferraris with blatant disregard for the 10mph warning sign.

The cars and their owners were a reflection of the club’s success.

Challenging for the old First Division and the Premier League titles and going deep into the former European Cup - now Champions League -  life was so good that one former chairman Peter Ridsdale even treated himself to some exotic goldfish for his office.

Football agents referred to Ridsdale as ‘Father Christmas’ because of the generous contracts he doled out with abandon to their clients, Seth Johnson being the most startling case in point.

Those in charge were looking so high into the clouds they failed to spot the ten-ton truck coming towards them at full speed.

It smashed into Leeds so hard it shunted them back into the real world of League One and started a downward spiral of financial despair and ineptitude that still hasn’t reached the bottom.

In the 1970s and 80s Leeds left an indelible mark on football. But for the last decade and more the fallen giants have become a stain on the landscape of the game we love.


Last week the inner workings of Leeds were brutally exposed during a sex discrimination and unfair dismissal tribunal brought about by former welfare officer Lucy Ward.

Needless to say Leeds lost. Not just the case, but what little remained of their self-respect and dignity under current owner Massimo Cellino.

The details that emerged were staggering and trashed the reputations of current and former members of staff. They have been well documented, but they led to one damning conclusion.

Those famous initials that still adorn the famous white shirts once likened to the great Real Madrid could now stand for ‘Lunatics Unlimited Football Club’.

Cellino and those inadequate colleagues he has surrounded himself with at Elland Road have turned incompetence into such an art form that the Italian has achieved the impossible.

Neutral football fans, when they have stopped laughing, now feel genuinely sorry for Leeds.

Those in charge don’t deserve an ounce of sympathy, because Leeds resemble a rotten pumpkin that has been hollowed out from the inside with a bent knife.

Leeds is now a broken and dysfunctional institution where Halloween takes place every single day and not just once a year.

But the shocking malaise also provides an incredible puzzle no-one, least of all the long-suffering supporters, just cannot seem to solve.

How have Leeds failed to attract a serious, credible and super-rich investor willing to make them great again when other, less appealing clubs have managed it?

Leeds is an affluent and vibrant city. It has one football team with a huge catchment area, remarkably loyal support home and abroad and, with the exception of the Millennium onwards, a proud and successful history.

Like the current running of Leeds itself, it is a baffling conundrum people cannot fathom.

There will be more revelations about Cellino controversial running of the club this week, so watch this space.

But the genuine fear around Leeds now is that there could be some even darker secrets lurking in the considerable shadows that are stopping a club that still counts from luring an owner it both needs and deserves.
For the sake of Leeds United he would break himself in two

willum

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4807 på: April 18, 2016, 10:07:01 »
Jeg legger ut hele artikkelen i fra The Telegraph:


Massimo Cellino: One day, Leeds will be the best side in Europe
 Massimo Cellino
Massimo Cellino: "Some think I’m Machiavellian." CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
 James Ducker
17 APRIL 2016 • 8:03PM
Massimo Cellino lights up his umpteenth cigarette, leans forward while drawing hard on his Merit filter, and begins to tackle his reputation as one of English football’s most controversial owners, and the latest perceived villain in the tragic modern history of Leeds United.

“I can be the best a---hole in the world but I’m not a bad person and I never want to hurt anyone,” he says. “I can be a pain in the a--- but I’m not a bad person. So when people say I’m dishonest, it hurts me.

“When I watch a movie, I’m the sort who wants the police to win, not the bad guys. Some think I’m Machiavellian. ‘You see, Massimo Cellino is a motherf-----.’ I’m not. Sometimes I do things without thinking but if I make a mistake people think I did it on purpose.

“When the fans call me a b------, it hurts me a lot, but I understand the fans who are p----- off. Maybe if I was in their position I’d say the same thing. They’re so used to eating s--- that they don’t believe something good could happen. So many times they’ve had the illusion of the right thing coming along so why should they believe Massimo Cellino is the right one?

“Can you imagine staying in Leeds when the people want to kill you? I’m depressed. People tell me to go away. F------ hell. But I’m not going away because I’m not a coward. Otherwise I’d have already run away.”

Cellino
Cellino: “I can be the best a---hole in the world but I’m not a bad person" CREDIT: GETTY
It is a bleak Thursday afternoon in Leeds and Cellino has cleared his schedule to talk to Telegraph Sport. His plush office on the second floor of Elland Road’s East Stand is a serene place but the ominous clouds that circle outside seem an appropriate metaphor for the fresh storms engulfing the 59-year-old Italian businessman.

A week after our meeting, Lucy Ward, the partner of former Leeds manager Neil Redfearn, won her case for unfair dismissal and sex discrimination against the Championship club, where she had worked as an academy welfare officer. A tribunal heard that Cellino had allegedly claimed in conversation with a Leeds official that women have no place in football and were better off in the bedroom or the beauticians. It followed news that Cellino’s youngest son, Edoardo, a Leeds director, had been charged by the Football Association for reputedly calling a supporter a “spastic” on social media.  Edoardo has commented, saying: “I did not fully understand the severity of the words used as English is not my first language. Again, I can only apologise.”

And on Saturday, around 1,000 supporters staged a protest march against the owner before the 3-2 victory at home to Reading, who just happen to be managed by Brian McDermott, the first of Cellino’s five managerial casualties in two years at the club.For a man appealing against a second ownership ban from the Football League for tax evasion in Italy, Cellino is accustomed to having a target on his back. But the Ward case could prove damaging and Leeds are also still awaiting judgment in another alleged wrongful dismissal case brought by former assistant manager Nigel Gibbs. Cellino seems to accept the Ward process could have been handled better but he refutes the sexism charge and questions how the tribunal panel could have given so much credence to Ward’s claim about that offensive remark he allegedly made to Gary Cooper, chairman of Leeds Ladies FC.

Massimo Cellino
Massimo alongside his son, Edoardo CREDIT: GETTY
“It’s been a trial against Massimo Cellino, not against Leeds,” he said. “I’m now supposed to be this man who hates women and has such a low of opinion of them that they’re only good for the bedroom. It’s a total lie. The only conversation I had with Gary Cooper was about money for the women’s team. I would never think of saying something like he claims. “Give me the choice and I’d employ a woman over a man every time because they work better. I had two women’s teams in America that won everything in Miami for 10 years. If I hated women, why would I have bothered? Any man who doesn’t respect women is low, not a man. I can accept a lot of things but not that.”

The speed with which Cellino seems to go through staff, and managers specifically, wins him few friends, though. He had 36 coaches in 22 years in charge of Italian club Cagliari Calcio. “I have a reputation as a coach eater, yes it’s true,” he says, but points out that, at Cagliari, the high turnover was in large part due to the club’s success earning his coaches bigger moves elsewhere. Still, now on his sixth manager at Leeds in Steve Evans, who seems unlikely to last beyond the end of the season. So does Cellino enjoy hiring and firing?

“I become a coward,” he explains. “I’m embarrassed. I don’t want to tell them. I don’t know which way to tell them. Most of the time I call someone else and ask them to do it. I know that’s not the best thing to do but I’m ashamed. But they go away with a pocket full of money and I’m the bad guy? What the f---?”  Cellino’s main problem with English football is the power afforded the manager and his assessments of most of those he has employed, from McDermott to Evans via David Hockaday, Darko Milanic, Redfearn and Uwe Rosler, are so withering they must remain off record. He is a staunch advocate of the director of football/head coach model, where the coach focuses on the team but leaves contracts, transfers and the rest to the sporting director. Nicola Salerno vacated that role last year and Cellino intends to appoint a replacement imminently.

“I cannot work with English managers,” Cellino says. “I never want to learn. I give up. When am I going to find a manager in England who is actually a coach? They want to control everything. But it’s wrong because when they go you have to start all over again.

“Sometimes to pretend we were f------ right we don’t fire the manager and most of the time we f--- the club because we won’t admit we took the wrong guy. Not everyone is Sir Alex Ferguson. All the other managers want to act like Ferguson but they don’t have the skills so they cause damage.”

Massimo Cellino
Massimo Cellino dislikes the power held by club manager CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
He would probably be prepared to cede more power to Jose Mourinho or Carlo Ancelotti, though. Mourinho is in line to take over at Manchester United this summer should Louis van Gaal depart but Cellino has done his best to entice the former Chelsea manager. “I told him, ‘If you had the balls, you should come and manage Leeds. Bring Leeds into the Premier League and then the Champions League. That’s balls.’ You want to play football – come with me to Leeds. Mourinho, like others, has to ask himself if he is still a coach. How do you find out? By going to Manchester United?

“Ancelotti called me. ‘Massimo, bring the club into the Premier League and I come to you because the only place I miss and want to go back to is England’. For me a good coach still has to show he’s a good coach. Come here and show me.”

Carlo Ancelotti
Cowardly Carlo Ancelotti preferred Bayern Munich to Leeds United CREDIT: EPA
Cellino is clear on what he wants from a coach. “If we lose but we tried to win I’m happy,” he explains. “We lose and we tried to draw – fired. That is Massimo Cellino.”

Reports that Fabio Cannavaro, the former Italy World Cup-winning defender, is in line to replace Evans were dismissed by Cellino. “I’m 100 per cent not looking to appoint Cannavaro as manager,” he said. “There’s not one chance.”

If there is a chance of Evans staying on, though, the ex- Rotherham United manager will have to quieten down. “He talks too much,” Cellino says. “He has to learn to shut his mouth. I’ve told him so many times to stop, you have no idea. But he doesn’t.”

Steve Evans
Steve Evans "has to learn how to shut his mouth" CREDIT: REX
At times over the course of five hours of conversation, it is hard to keep up with Cellino and, at one point, he casually drops in how he almost died – twice. The first time he was 18 when he got an embolism in a leg after deep sea scuba diving in Australia. “They brought me to hospital and I was effectively dead,” he says. “I couldn’t use my legs for two months. Everyone thought I’d be paralysed.”

Three years later, he ended up in a coma when his new Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer was written off “by a Fiat 127 that came out of a petrol station with its lights off”. The date of the accident stuck in his head – June 17, 1984 – and was the origin of his superstition about the number 17. “Every 17 is a s--- for me,” he says.

Cellino believes firmly in the paranormal and is convinced someone has put a curse on Leeds. “We were not winning at home, I brought a priest here, he blessed the field and a black crow flew away,” he whispers. “I’ve been fighting every day with this curse because I swear to God it does exist.”

Cellino
Cellino worries a curse has been put on his club CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
Cellino gives short shrift to the critics who accuse him of asset-stripping. Having reduced annual losses from £23 million to £2 million and got the wage bill under control, he believes he is now in a position to concentrate on football matters. “I couldn’t build a team before I had plugged all the leaking holes,” he said. “They can’t make me rush because if they do I can cause damage. You can’t compete in the Olympics until physically you’re ready to do so. I thought I knew everything about football but here I have had to start from zero again. Until now I’ve only spent about five per cent of my time looking at the playing side.”

A 223-day ban from the Football League would throw a huge spanner in the works if his appeal is unsuccessful but he hopes a solution is found soon.

“If someone has got a brain and we really care about football we will get it sorted out,” he said.

Cellino: You're not welcome
The Italian's relationship with the fans has been an uneasy one CREDIT: ROSS PARRY
If there is a fight he is unwilling to back away from, though, it is with Sky. Cellino infamously refused to let the Sky Sports cameras in for a Championship game against Derby in December before relenting, but he is not finished with them. He is adamant he is in favour of the collective selling of television rights. His problem is with Leeds being televised around 15 times a season when other clubs are shown only a handful of times for the same money and the crippling effect he believes that and ever-changing kick-off times will have on attendances at Elland Road. He is prepared to fight Sky through the courts if need be. “I am protecting Leeds,” he said. “If they weren’t hurting us financially they could put us on television every day.”

Cellino’s family have urged him to walk away but he still believes he can be Leeds’s saviour. “My daughter said last week, ‘Daddy, Leeds is killing you’,” he says. “I know but I don’t like to give up. The fans want to win but I want to win bigger. I don’t want to go into the Premier League then back. I want to go in the Premier League then compete for the Champions League.” 


Så mye å ta tak i her. Men i det store og hele er dette trygling om sympati. I'm hurt. I'n not a bad guy. "When I watch a movie, I’m the sort who wants the police to win, not the bad guys." Da så.

DenHviteYeboah

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4808 på: April 18, 2016, 11:16:56 »
Jeg tror Cellino hadde kommet bedre ut med alle hvis han hadde hatt et snev av ydmykhet. Som jeg skrev tidligere så har sjelden mennesker som er født millionærer , og har en haug med ansatte ja-mennesker rundt seg noe særlig evne til å lytte til andre. For å ansette Hockaday eller Milanic kan han umulig ha hørt på noen andre enn seg selv, eventuelt stemmer han har hørt i det fjerne....
Det eneste jeg tror kan redde Cellino fra en total vrede fra supportere neste sesong er følgende:
- ansett en repektert manager med et godt trenerapparat
- la den nye manageren kjøpe 3-4 spillere som er på øverste hylle i championship
- ansett en daglig leder på "Pearson nivå"
- sats på akademiet
Er dessverre redd for at ingenting av dette vil skje.....så prove me wrong mr. Cellino ;)

h.b

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Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4809 på: April 18, 2016, 11:35:11 »
Jeg tror Cellino hadde kommet bedre ut med alle hvis han hadde hatt et snev av ydmykhet. Som jeg skrev tidligere så har sjelden mennesker som er født millionærer , og har en haug med ansatte ja-mennesker rundt seg noe særlig evne til å lytte til andre. For å ansette Hockaday eller Milanic kan han umulig ha hørt på noen andre enn seg selv, eventuelt stemmer han har hørt i det fjerne....
Det eneste jeg tror kan redde Cellino fra en total vrede fra supportere neste sesong er følgende:
- ansett en repektert manager med et godt trenerapparat
- la den nye manageren kjøpe 3-4 spillere som er på øverste hylle i championship
- ansett en daglig leder på "Pearson nivå"
- sats på akademiet
Er dessverre redd for at ingenting av dette vil skje.....så prove me wrong mr. Cellino ;)


Så rett, så rett. Men når han greier å lire av seg at han har spurt både Mourinho og Ancelotti, for så å ty til Hock og Milanic, ja da må jeg bare riste på hue.
Blir nesten som at man drar på byen. Prøver seg på den fineste dama i baren, får nei. Ja da tar man til takke for den styggeste mora til en av de i baren.

willum

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4810 på: April 18, 2016, 11:42:15 »
Jeg legger ut hele artikkelen i fra The Telegraph:


Massimo Cellino: One day, Leeds will be the best side in Europe
 Massimo Cellino
Massimo Cellino: "Some think I’m Machiavellian." CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
 James Ducker
17 APRIL 2016 • 8:03PM
Massimo Cellino lights up his umpteenth cigarette, leans forward while drawing hard on his Merit filter, and begins to tackle his reputation as one of English football’s most controversial owners, and the latest perceived villain in the tragic modern history of Leeds United.

“I can be the best a---hole in the world but I’m not a bad person and I never want to hurt anyone,” he says. “I can be a pain in the a--- but I’m not a bad person. So when people say I’m dishonest, it hurts me.

“When I watch a movie, I’m the sort who wants the police to win, not the bad guys. Some think I’m Machiavellian. ‘You see, Massimo Cellino is a motherf-----.’ I’m not. Sometimes I do things without thinking but if I make a mistake people think I did it on purpose.

“When the fans call me a b------, it hurts me a lot, but I understand the fans who are p----- off. Maybe if I was in their position I’d say the same thing. They’re so used to eating s--- that they don’t believe something good could happen. So many times they’ve had the illusion of the right thing coming along so why should they believe Massimo Cellino is the right one?

“Can you imagine staying in Leeds when the people want to kill you? I’m depressed. People tell me to go away. F------ hell. But I’m not going away because I’m not a coward. Otherwise I’d have already run away.”

Cellino
Cellino: “I can be the best a---hole in the world but I’m not a bad person" CREDIT: GETTY
It is a bleak Thursday afternoon in Leeds and Cellino has cleared his schedule to talk to Telegraph Sport. His plush office on the second floor of Elland Road’s East Stand is a serene place but the ominous clouds that circle outside seem an appropriate metaphor for the fresh storms engulfing the 59-year-old Italian businessman.

A week after our meeting, Lucy Ward, the partner of former Leeds manager Neil Redfearn, won her case for unfair dismissal and sex discrimination against the Championship club, where she had worked as an academy welfare officer. A tribunal heard that Cellino had allegedly claimed in conversation with a Leeds official that women have no place in football and were better off in the bedroom or the beauticians. It followed news that Cellino’s youngest son, Edoardo, a Leeds director, had been charged by the Football Association for reputedly calling a supporter a “spastic” on social media.  Edoardo has commented, saying: “I did not fully understand the severity of the words used as English is not my first language. Again, I can only apologise.”

And on Saturday, around 1,000 supporters staged a protest march against the owner before the 3-2 victory at home to Reading, who just happen to be managed by Brian McDermott, the first of Cellino’s five managerial casualties in two years at the club.For a man appealing against a second ownership ban from the Football League for tax evasion in Italy, Cellino is accustomed to having a target on his back. But the Ward case could prove damaging and Leeds are also still awaiting judgment in another alleged wrongful dismissal case brought by former assistant manager Nigel Gibbs. Cellino seems to accept the Ward process could have been handled better but he refutes the sexism charge and questions how the tribunal panel could have given so much credence to Ward’s claim about that offensive remark he allegedly made to Gary Cooper, chairman of Leeds Ladies FC.

Massimo Cellino
Massimo alongside his son, Edoardo CREDIT: GETTY
“It’s been a trial against Massimo Cellino, not against Leeds,” he said. “I’m now supposed to be this man who hates women and has such a low of opinion of them that they’re only good for the bedroom. It’s a total lie. The only conversation I had with Gary Cooper was about money for the women’s team. I would never think of saying something like he claims. “Give me the choice and I’d employ a woman over a man every time because they work better. I had two women’s teams in America that won everything in Miami for 10 years. If I hated women, why would I have bothered? Any man who doesn’t respect women is low, not a man. I can accept a lot of things but not that.”

The speed with which Cellino seems to go through staff, and managers specifically, wins him few friends, though. He had 36 coaches in 22 years in charge of Italian club Cagliari Calcio. “I have a reputation as a coach eater, yes it’s true,” he says, but points out that, at Cagliari, the high turnover was in large part due to the club’s success earning his coaches bigger moves elsewhere. Still, now on his sixth manager at Leeds in Steve Evans, who seems unlikely to last beyond the end of the season. So does Cellino enjoy hiring and firing?

“I become a coward,” he explains. “I’m embarrassed. I don’t want to tell them. I don’t know which way to tell them. Most of the time I call someone else and ask them to do it. I know that’s not the best thing to do but I’m ashamed. But they go away with a pocket full of money and I’m the bad guy? What the f---?”  Cellino’s main problem with English football is the power afforded the manager and his assessments of most of those he has employed, from McDermott to Evans via David Hockaday, Darko Milanic, Redfearn and Uwe Rosler, are so withering they must remain off record. He is a staunch advocate of the director of football/head coach model, where the coach focuses on the team but leaves contracts, transfers and the rest to the sporting director. Nicola Salerno vacated that role last year and Cellino intends to appoint a replacement imminently.

“I cannot work with English managers,” Cellino says. “I never want to learn. I give up. When am I going to find a manager in England who is actually a coach? They want to control everything. But it’s wrong because when they go you have to start all over again.

“Sometimes to pretend we were f------ right we don’t fire the manager and most of the time we f--- the club because we won’t admit we took the wrong guy. Not everyone is Sir Alex Ferguson. All the other managers want to act like Ferguson but they don’t have the skills so they cause damage.”

Massimo Cellino
Massimo Cellino dislikes the power held by club manager CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
He would probably be prepared to cede more power to Jose Mourinho or Carlo Ancelotti, though. Mourinho is in line to take over at Manchester United this summer should Louis van Gaal depart but Cellino has done his best to entice the former Chelsea manager. “I told him, ‘If you had the balls, you should come and manage Leeds. Bring Leeds into the Premier League and then the Champions League. That’s balls.’ You want to play football – come with me to Leeds. Mourinho, like others, has to ask himself if he is still a coach. How do you find out? By going to Manchester United?

“Ancelotti called me. ‘Massimo, bring the club into the Premier League and I come to you because the only place I miss and want to go back to is England’. For me a good coach still has to show he’s a good coach. Come here and show me.”

Carlo Ancelotti
Cowardly Carlo Ancelotti preferred Bayern Munich to Leeds United CREDIT: EPA
Cellino is clear on what he wants from a coach. “If we lose but we tried to win I’m happy,” he explains. “We lose and we tried to draw – fired. That is Massimo Cellino.”

Reports that Fabio Cannavaro, the former Italy World Cup-winning defender, is in line to replace Evans were dismissed by Cellino. “I’m 100 per cent not looking to appoint Cannavaro as manager,” he said. “There’s not one chance.”

If there is a chance of Evans staying on, though, the ex- Rotherham United manager will have to quieten down. “He talks too much,” Cellino says. “He has to learn to shut his mouth. I’ve told him so many times to stop, you have no idea. But he doesn’t.”

Steve Evans
Steve Evans "has to learn how to shut his mouth" CREDIT: REX
At times over the course of five hours of conversation, it is hard to keep up with Cellino and, at one point, he casually drops in how he almost died – twice. The first time he was 18 when he got an embolism in a leg after deep sea scuba diving in Australia. “They brought me to hospital and I was effectively dead,” he says. “I couldn’t use my legs for two months. Everyone thought I’d be paralysed.”

Three years later, he ended up in a coma when his new Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer was written off “by a Fiat 127 that came out of a petrol station with its lights off”. The date of the accident stuck in his head – June 17, 1984 – and was the origin of his superstition about the number 17. “Every 17 is a s--- for me,” he says.

Cellino believes firmly in the paranormal and is convinced someone has put a curse on Leeds. “We were not winning at home, I brought a priest here, he blessed the field and a black crow flew away,” he whispers. “I’ve been fighting every day with this curse because I swear to God it does exist.”

Cellino
Cellino worries a curse has been put on his club CREDIT: PAUL COOPER
Cellino gives short shrift to the critics who accuse him of asset-stripping. Having reduced annual losses from £23 million to £2 million and got the wage bill under control, he believes he is now in a position to concentrate on football matters. “I couldn’t build a team before I had plugged all the leaking holes,” he said. “They can’t make me rush because if they do I can cause damage. You can’t compete in the Olympics until physically you’re ready to do so. I thought I knew everything about football but here I have had to start from zero again. Until now I’ve only spent about five per cent of my time looking at the playing side.”

A 223-day ban from the Football League would throw a huge spanner in the works if his appeal is unsuccessful but he hopes a solution is found soon.

“If someone has got a brain and we really care about football we will get it sorted out,” he said.

Cellino: You're not welcome
The Italian's relationship with the fans has been an uneasy one CREDIT: ROSS PARRY
If there is a fight he is unwilling to back away from, though, it is with Sky. Cellino infamously refused to let the Sky Sports cameras in for a Championship game against Derby in December before relenting, but he is not finished with them. He is adamant he is in favour of the collective selling of television rights. His problem is with Leeds being televised around 15 times a season when other clubs are shown only a handful of times for the same money and the crippling effect he believes that and ever-changing kick-off times will have on attendances at Elland Road. He is prepared to fight Sky through the courts if need be. “I am protecting Leeds,” he said. “If they weren’t hurting us financially they could put us on television every day.”

Cellino’s family have urged him to walk away but he still believes he can be Leeds’s saviour. “My daughter said last week, ‘Daddy, Leeds is killing you’,” he says. “I know but I don’t like to give up. The fans want to win but I want to win bigger. I don’t want to go into the Premier League then back. I want to go in the Premier League then compete for the Champions League.” 


Så mye å ta tak i her. Men i det store og hele er dette trygling om sympati. I'm hurt. I'n not a bad guy. "When I watch a movie, I’m the sort who wants the police to win, not the bad guys." Da så.

Dette sitatet. "I never want to learn". Har mannen selvinnsikt likevel?

For øvrig et sitat tatt fullstendig ut av sammenheng av meg, men det var uansett  ingen sammenheng i Cellinos ralling.

auren

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4811 på: April 18, 2016, 11:43:41 »
Jeg tror Cellino hadde kommet bedre ut med alle hvis han hadde hatt et snev av ydmykhet. Som jeg skrev tidligere så har sjelden mennesker som er født millionærer , og har en haug med ansatte ja-mennesker rundt seg noe særlig evne til å lytte til andre. For å ansette Hockaday eller Milanic kan han umulig ha hørt på noen andre enn seg selv, eventuelt stemmer han har hørt i det fjerne....
Det eneste jeg tror kan redde Cellino fra en total vrede fra supportere neste sesong er følgende:
- ansett en repektert manager med et godt trenerapparat
- la den nye manageren kjøpe 3-4 spillere som er på øverste hylle i championship
- ansett en daglig leder på "Pearson nivå"
- sats på akademiet
Er dessverre redd for at ingenting av dette vil skje.....så prove me wrong mr. Cellino ;)


Det var vel bort i mot dette han gjorde i fjor sommer. Men det varte ikke lenge før han gav Rösler fyken, og så forsvant Pearson i pausen av en kamp. Vi så jo konturene av en langsiktig tankegang i fjor sommer, men så bare måtte han inn i manesjen igjen og klovne seg.

Selv om du skulle treffe på alle dine punkter her, så kan du være sikker på at han klarer å rive det ned igjen i løpet av noen få måneder. That's life With Cellino  :'(

auren
"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

samadhi

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4812 på: April 18, 2016, 19:13:13 »
“I cannot work with English managers,” Cellino says

I motsetning til det gode samarbeidet du hadde med tyske Rosler og slovenske Milanic tenker du på ??,
eller de 32 ikke britiske du ansatte på dine 22 år i Cagliari...
marching on together,
derudaf forever...

Sydhagen

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4813 på: April 18, 2016, 19:20:31 »
“I cannot work with English managers,” Cellino says

I motsetning til det gode samarbeidet du hadde med tyske Rosler og slovenske Milanic tenker du på ??,
eller de 32 ikke britiske du ansatte på dine 22 år i Cagliari...

Dette sitatet er tatt litt ut av sammenheng.
Han sier at han er i en prosess med å hente inn en sportsdirektør (samme rolle som Pearson hadde) som kan forholde seg til manageren, siden han ikke kan forholde seg til engelske managere selv.

Om det vil hjelpe er jo en annen sak  :D
"Paynter, a striker whose danger factor is akin to a blind sniper, who has no fingers, or a gun."

Hallgeir *

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4814 på: April 18, 2016, 19:40:34 »
“I cannot work with English managers,” Cellino says

I motsetning til det gode samarbeidet du hadde med tyske Rosler og slovenske Milanic tenker du på ??,
eller de 32 ikke britiske du ansatte på dine 22 år i Cagliari...

Dette sitatet er tatt litt ut av sammenheng.
Han sier at han er i en prosess med å hente inn en sportsdirektør (samme rolle som Pearson hadde) som kan forholde seg til manageren, siden han ikke kan forholde seg til engelske managere selv.

Om det vil hjelpe er jo en annen sak  :D

Beklager, jeg må korrigere deg her.

Cellino kan ikke forholde seg til noen managere (head coach'er), det være seg britiske eller fra andre nasjoner.  Det måtte være kun i korte perioder i så fall.

Forhistorien hans forteller det med all tydelighet.  :(
« Siste redigering: April 18, 2016, 19:49:45 av Hallgeir * »
Super Leeds since 1968

Sydhagen

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4815 på: April 18, 2016, 19:55:27 »

“I cannot work with English managers,” Cellino says

I motsetning til det gode samarbeidet du hadde med tyske Rosler og slovenske Milanic tenker du på ??,
eller de 32 ikke britiske du ansatte på dine 22 år i Cagliari...

Dette sitatet er tatt litt ut av sammenheng.
Han sier at han er i en prosess med å hente inn en sportsdirektør (samme rolle som Pearson hadde) som kan forholde seg til manageren, siden han ikke kan forholde seg til engelske managere selv.

Om det vil hjelpe er jo en annen sak  :D

Beklager, jeg må korrigere deg her.

Cellino kan ikke forholde seg til noen managere (head coach'er), det være seg britiske eller fra andre nasjoner.  Det måtte være kun i korte perioder i så fall.

Forhistorien hans forteller det med all tydelighet.  :(
Jeg gjentar bare den han sier selv, ikke hva som er virkeligheten.
"Paynter, a striker whose danger factor is akin to a blind sniper, who has no fingers, or a gun."

Gufrias

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4816 på: April 18, 2016, 20:13:57 »
Jeg forsto ham slik at han ikke har sansen for den engelske modellen hvor en manager har styringen med alt sportslig. Han vil heller ha en sportssjefen ansvar for det langsiktige og en head coach med ansvar for treningsfeltet og kampene.
Hekta på Leeds siden 1974

Sydhagen

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4817 på: April 18, 2016, 20:20:59 »

Jeg forsto ham slik at han ikke har sansen for den engelske modellen hvor en manager har styringen med alt sportslig. Han vil heller ha en sportssjefen ansvar for det langsiktige og en head coach med ansvar for treningsfeltet og kampene.
Er vel omtrent kun i england de har denne modellen. Store klubber ute i Europa har jo sportsdirektører som styrer dette med innkjøp. En litt mer langsiktig plan i og med at en coach ofte skiftes ut. Men under Cellino skiftes ALLE ut ofte!
"Paynter, a striker whose danger factor is akin to a blind sniper, who has no fingers, or a gun."

RoarG

"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

Cherry

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4819 på: April 18, 2016, 22:14:35 »
Ã… ansette  Cannavaro, med lite trenererfaring (ikke noe  i England) ,  mener jeg er et sjansespill. Hvis han ikke lykkes må han sparkes til høsten og da er farsen komplett!!
Nesten bedre  å fortsette med  Evans og sparke ham hvis han gjør det dårlig.

Hvorfor skal Cannavaro lykkes bedre enn  Milanic, Hockaday og  Rosler? Men: Cannavaro tar neppe jobben om det ikke følger med  penger til kvalitetsspillere, så han har kanskje noe bedre forutsetninger likevel.

Cannavaro loves garantert penger til spillere, men HVEM som skal hente disse spillerne servjegvikke.... Ennå.
Greit med ny Coach, men sportsdirektør, head of academy og Scout er for klubben like viktig.
På kort sikt kan Cannavaro være en god løsning, HVIS Cellino blar opp for kvalitet.... Men er redd d da ruller inn ett lass med spaghettispillere inn porten igjen- som ikke ANER hva Championship dreier seg om av type fotball.

Ganske utrolig og synonymt igjen dette her som Leeds fan, vi ANER ikke hva som kommer til og skje med Coach og spillere nå neste 60 dager...... ??? :P
 

Erik M

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4820 på: April 19, 2016, 12:17:21 »
Jeg er så FULLSTENDIG uinteressert i hva som ryktes av spillere og trenere og annet.  Nettopp det pleide å være kjernen i min interesse - mellom kampene.  Nå håper jeg bare på opptøyer blant fansen,  blokkade av stadion og økonomisk boykott - inntil kreftsvulsten Cellino er jaget vekk.

Jeg har fulgt Leeds siden 1969 og er på ingen måte medgangssupporter.  I sum så har det vært klart mest av motgang.  Nå er jeg uinteressert i resultatene - jeg vet ikke om jeg håper på nedrykk eller opprykk.  Jeg håper på det som gir oss en ny eier.  Jeg kommer ikke til besøke Elland Rd eller bruke penger på Leeds før dette skjer og jeg kommer til å titte innom her i håp om positive nyheter i så måte.

Jeg elsker Leeds, men Cellino får ikke låne mitt hjerte - ikke mer.
 

Nørgaard

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4821 på: April 19, 2016, 12:51:14 »
Jeg er så FULLSTENDIG uinteressert i hva som ryktes av spillere og trenere og annet.  Nettopp det pleide å være kjernen i min interesse - mellom kampene.  Nå håper jeg bare på opptøyer blant fansen,  blokkade av stadion og økonomisk boykott - inntil kreftsvulsten Cellino er jaget vekk.

Jeg har fulgt Leeds siden 1969 og er på ingen måte medgangssupporter.  I sum så har det vært klart mest av motgang.  Nå er jeg uinteressert i resultatene - jeg vet ikke om jeg håper på nedrykk eller opprykk.  Jeg håper på det som gir oss en ny eier.  Jeg kommer ikke til besøke Elland Rd eller bruke penger på Leeds før dette skjer og jeg kommer til å titte innom her i håp om positive nyheter i så måte.

Jeg elsker Leeds, men Cellino får ikke låne mitt hjerte - ikke mer.

Spot on!
Kunne ikke være mere enig.
Tror efterhånden der er mange Leedsfans der har det på samme måde.

Sydhagen

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4822 på: April 19, 2016, 13:34:10 »
Dette var jeg ikke klar over:
Viss Cellino bestemmer seg for å selge klubben, har han også rett til å selge GFH sine aksjer.
Dette står i avtalen mellom Cellino og GFH.

https://www.timetogomassimo.com/posts/statement-a-thank-you-a-financial-rebuttal-gfh-the-unattainable-managers/

Det vil selvfølgelig gjøre det enklere og mer "smakfullt" for en eventuell kjøper når han kan kjøpe 100% av klubben.
"Paynter, a striker whose danger factor is akin to a blind sniper, who has no fingers, or a gun."

DenHviteYeboah

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4823 på: April 19, 2016, 17:41:58 »
Dette var jeg ikke klar over:
Viss Cellino bestemmer seg for å selge klubben, har han også rett til å selge GFH sine aksjer.
Dette står i avtalen mellom Cellino og GFH.

https://www.timetogomassimo.com/posts/statement-a-thank-you-a-financial-rebuttal-gfh-the-unattainable-managers/

Det vil selvfølgelig gjøre det enklere og mer "smakfullt" for en eventuell kjøper når han kan kjøpe 100% av klubben.

Enig i at det er et pluss at han selge aksjene til idiotene i GFH, men problemet er at ingen gidder å kjøpe denne klubben til astronomiske summen Cellino sannsynligvis krever. Leeds United eier jo kun en gjeng med middelmådige spillere, et navn med masse historie og Englands beste supportere....
På toppen av dette går klubben med røde tall.....huff og huff

RoarG

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4824 på: April 19, 2016, 20:03:51 »
Dette var jeg ikke klar over:
Viss Cellino bestemmer seg for å selge klubben, har han også rett til å selge GFH sine aksjer.
Dette står i avtalen mellom Cellino og GFH.

https://www.timetogomassimo.com/posts/statement-a-thank-you-a-financial-rebuttal-gfh-the-unattainable-managers/

Det vil selvfølgelig gjøre det enklere og mer "smakfullt" for en eventuell kjøper når han kan kjøpe 100% av klubben.

Enig i at det er et pluss at han selge aksjene til idiotene i GFH, men problemet er at ingen gidder å kjøpe denne klubben til astronomiske summen Cellino sannsynligvis krever. Leeds United eier jo kun en gjeng med middelmådige spillere, et navn med masse historie og Englands beste supportere....
På toppen av dette går klubben med røde tall.....huff og huff

En evt. ny eier må nok kjøpe klubben for potensialet som ligger der..og kvitte seg med de mange middelmådighetene som nå spiller der.
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

willum

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4825 på: April 20, 2016, 07:59:47 »
Dette var jeg ikke klar over:
Viss Cellino bestemmer seg for å selge klubben, har han også rett til å selge GFH sine aksjer.
Dette står i avtalen mellom Cellino og GFH.

https://www.timetogomassimo.com/posts/statement-a-thank-you-a-financial-rebuttal-gfh-the-unattainable-managers/

Det vil selvfølgelig gjøre det enklere og mer "smakfullt" for en eventuell kjøper når han kan kjøpe 100% av klubben.


Dette har vært i dagen siden 2900miles.com publiserte SPA-dokumentet (spennende lesning for øvrig).

Dette statementet fra TTGM er interessant, selv om jeg kanskje tror de tar munnen litt for full når de sier at alt, bortsett fra de opprinnelige £11M i kjøpssum, må betales tilbake til MC.

Slik jeg leser det har MC satset £31,7M på klubben. Dette inkluderer kjøpet. Kjøpssummen var altså £35M for 75% sv aksjene (GFH betalte vel £22M for 100% et drøyt år tidligere. Overpris noen?). Av disse £35M ble £11M betalt av MC, mens £24M ble belastet klubben som gjeld til GFH. Gjelden til GFH er nå drøyt £20M.

MC har etter det bygd seg opp en betydelig gjeld fra klubben, men mye av dette er omgjort til aksjer. £20,7M om tallene til TTGM stemmer. I tillegg er det £4,6M i gjeld til MC.

Så for MC er det altså £31,7M at stake her. Om han selger sine aksjer for £35M har han en fin avkastning, vil jeg si. Ryktene sier at han ønsker £63M for aksjene sine. Det blir en avkastning på ca 100 % over to år (ikke årlig avkastning) for en mildt sagt elendig utført jobb.

samadhi

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4826 på: April 20, 2016, 21:04:45 »
Litt usikker på om denne er ekte, om ikke er den veldig bra laget.

Wilshere, Kane, Dele Alli og Ozil med klar tale om Massimo  :)

https://twitter.com/WhiteLeedsSite?lang=no
marching on together,
derudaf forever...

Blank_File

Sv: Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4827 på: April 20, 2016, 22:05:00 »
Litt usikker på om denne er ekte, om ikke er den veldig bra laget.

Wilshere, Kane, Dele Alli og Ozil med klar tale om Massimo  :)

https://twitter.com/WhiteLeedsSite?lang=no
What the heck???

auren

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4828 på: April 20, 2016, 23:04:08 »
Litt usikker på om denne er ekte, om ikke er den veldig bra laget.

Wilshere, Kane, Dele Alli og Ozil med klar tale om Massimo  :)

https://twitter.com/WhiteLeedsSite?lang=no

Haha! Den er fantastisk! Må vel være ekte…?  ;D

auren
"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

willum

Sv: Hovedaksjonær: Massimo Cellino 5/4-14
« Svar #4829 på: April 21, 2016, 07:38:04 »
Litt usikker på om denne er ekte, om ikke er den veldig bra laget.

Wilshere, Kane, Dele Alli og Ozil med klar tale om Massimo  :)

https://twitter.com/WhiteLeedsSite?lang=no

Haha! Den er fantastisk! Må vel være ekte…?  ;D

auren

Hvem vet, men morsomt var det i hvert fall.

Jeg måtte også trekke på smilebåndet av denne Hay-artikkelen:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-phil-hay-s-inside-elland-road-cellino-still-seems-confused-by-the-english-game-1-7865420

"You’ve never experienced a discussion with him until you’ve seen him bounding around his office, wearing an Arab headdress. But that’s a story for another day.

All that oxygen and yet so little in the way of coherent messages about what he or Leeds United plan to do next."

Og etter at Evans har fått sparken:

"And after that the next man, sitting at Elland Road and looking mildly surprised to be there; telling us how passionate Cellino is, how they spent several hours discussing football before contracts were signed, how the first thing they agreed was that final say over team affairs would lie with the head coach, and how Cellino doesn’t like sacking people."

Spikeren på hodet!