Eiere av Leeds United: 49'ers Enterprises

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Asbjørn

Gretar Steinsson anyone?

Husket navnet hans som spiller i Premier League (Bolton 2008-2012). Han kom til Leeds som Technical Director (delvis den nye Victor Orta, men Leeds reorganiserte så han overtok ikke direkte Ortas jobb) etter bare ett år i Tottenham som Performance Director.

Legger dette i denne tråden siden han er en del av 49'rs organisering og vi ikke har en tråd for tekniske direktører ( :D ) akkurat...

Hans karriere etter fotballen ble i stor grad skapt i Fleetwood, sammen med Uwe Rösler - derav disse sitatene i Leeds-Live.
Men først, verdt å merke seg (og kanskje grunnen til at han forlot Tottenham etter bare et år...):
Those were days that shaped Steinsson as the technical director took some important first steps at Fleetwood on a journey that has led the Icelander to Leeds, the club he supported as a boy. It sounds like the stuff of dreams, but Steinsson always had such a strategic role in mind - right back to when he was still playing in his mid-twenties.



Steinsson made a point of soaking up knowledge behind the scenes during spells playing in six different countries - even taking note of what was happening in analysis and medical departments - and the man who won dozens of caps for his country went on to complete a postgraduate degree in football management at the Johan Cruyff Institute. After hanging up his boots, following a career-ending knee injury in 2013, the multilingual served as an assistant to the technical director at former club AZ Alkmaar before taking up his first technical director role at Fleetwood at the age of just 33.

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"Gretar was a typical Scandinavian and Icelander," Rosler told Leeds Live. "He had this calmness about him in contrast to me and the owner. He balanced it out very well and I could trust him.

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"We didn't have the money, status or the attraction to get the finished articles to Fleetwood Town so we needed to be smart in other areas and Gretar was very smart. He had a very good contacts network with football clubs who were prepared to give us their talents on loan or with an option to buy, and that was how we worked. That was our only chance."

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"Gretar is a very strong communicator and communicates in a very modern way," the former Fleetwood manager said. "He uses words wisely but I knew all the time where I was. It was always clear what we could do and couldn't do and who we could and couldn't go for.

"I felt he was always very responsible with what he did. He wasn't throwing the money left, right and centre because we didn't have it. We had to think very wisely about how we spent the money that we had, especially in the first year.


"We hardly had one bad signing because we couldn't afford it. He always had the interests of the club at heart, but he also wanted us to be successful and was ambitious. He wanted to help me in the best possible way."

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Steinsson has since set out to help Farke while working alongside the Leeds boss, head of recruitment Jordan Miles, influential consultant Nick Hammond and CEO Angus Kinnear. It was Steinsson, for instance, who dealt with Swansea City's owners and flew out to the Netherlands last summer to meet Joel Piroe, the striker's family and his agent, Theo Roebbers.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/a-hot-telephone-line-leeds-29398025

The basics om Gretar Rafn Steinsson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%A9tar_Steinsson
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Asbjørn

Det går voldsomt med rykter nå om at Angus Kinnear har fått fyken/sluttet i Leeds United...
Han var den eneste i ledertroikaen under Radrizzani som overlevde - sikkert lurt at noen av 'de gamle' kunne overføre kunnskap til nye eiere. Men nå skal det være slutt.

Selvfølgelig kan det være ubegrunnede rykter, men eg tror ikkje det...
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auren

Quote from: Asbjørn on July 25, 2024, 21:23:44Det går voldsomt med rykter nå om at Angus Kinnear har fått fyken/sluttet i Leeds United...
Han var den eneste i ledertroikaen under Radrizzani som overlevde - sikkert lurt at noen av 'de gamle' kunne overføre kunnskap til nye eiere. Men nå skal det være slutt.

Selvfølgelig kan det være ubegrunnede rykter, men eg tror ikkje det...

DJ Dan fra Squareball skrev at han ikke hadde sluttet. Så får vi se hva som skjer da...

auren
"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

leedslife

Denne dukket opp på X feeden min.
Publisert for noen dager siden.

Er det en gjesteskribent på TSB?

@btngnrtn
Leeds United and Austria Salzburg fan #lufc #svas



An article in When Saturday Comes magazine on Red Bull's rebrand of SV Austria Salzburg in 2005 changed my life. Reading how they had wiped the club's history, shut the terraces of its most hardcore fans, called them "hooligans" and mocked attempts to negotiate the return of violet and white — the club's colours since 1933 — by offering purple-tinted plastic glasses through which to watch matches, had me shocked at the state of football.

Anger, specifically at Ken Bates' Leeds United, became a motivational creative force for me. Stickers, t-shirts, pull-out posters — Visit Beeston, Kenopoly, Batesonomics — none of these things would've happened in The Square Ball without Austria Salzburg fans. They altered the way I think about football, making me question exactly what it is that we're supporting.

It only took a matter of weeks for negotiations to break down in 2005, from pre-season optimism of a rumoured big sponsor to the fateful September home game against Austria Wien, when fan groups who had forged the Initiative Violett-Weiss walked out through violet smoke bombs on 33 minutes to do as owners Red Bull dared: form their own club.

This I simply had to see. A year later, after contact with the Initiative and being put in touch with Harry, who would be my local host and is now one of my best mates, I did. Upon arrival at their modest, bustling ground in Nonntal for the final seventh-tier game before the winter break, I heard Marching On Together playing over the tannoy, which shouldn't have been such a surprise because we'd arranged exactly that over pints of Stiegl the night before.

Through the years I've been welcomed back time and again by Harry and his fellow Absolut Salzburg group members to share their club's exhilarating journey up the Austrian leagues. I've talked with fans young and old, from ultras to club chairmen, about how they went from three Bundesliga titles and a UEFA Cup final in the 1990s to awaydays at municipal sports grounds in obscure villages with poetic names like Schleedorf and Leopoldskron-Moos. The reason was described to me as Red Bullification — rebranding clubs to the limits of regulation using extreme workarounds, oppressing fan culture and cracking down on criticism – and all of this was my introduction to it. Maybe these words are yours.

Upon arrival at Austria Salzburg's ground, I heard Marching On Together playing over the tannoy
So why do they do it? And how? To understand that you need to know a bit about what Red Bull is. In the 1980s, Austrian toothpaste salesman Dieter Mateschitz found that a Thai drink, Krating Daeng, eased his jetlag. He did a deal with its producer, Chaleo Yoovidhya: his company would make an adapted, fizzy version of the drink that Mateschitz would market to Europe and beyond. The company, Red Bull GmbH, was split 49% Mateschitz and 51% Yoovidhya, but Mateschitz would run it. Red Bull is still produced today in Thailand by TC Pharmaceutical and canned in Europe and the USA by the Austrian firm, Rauch.

So Red Bull GmbH don't make Red Bull — just adverts for it, and lots of them. From their headquarters in picturesque Fuschl am See fifteen miles east of Salzburg, the marketing company identifies properties it can own to advertise its brand. From soapbox cars, flugtag, and air racing to motorsport, road cycling and football teams, everything is associated with youthful energy reflective of the drink's brand demographic — the target market for everything they do.

Red Bull GmbH didn't create the drink, nor any of the football clubs currently advertising it. SV Austria Salzburg, New York/New Jersey Metrostars, SSV Markranstädt, USK Anif, Clube Atlético Bragantino: the identities of these clubs in locations deemed by the company to be advantageous to its brand were all replaced by white shirts with the same bulls on the chest. What differed were Red Bull GmbH's means of engagement and how the company navigated any regulations designed to stop behaviour like theirs.

After several clubs — FC Sachsen Leipzig, FC St Pauli, TSV 1860 München, and Fortuna Düsseldorf — declined proposals to become Red Bull's German club alongside its teams in Austria and America, in 2009 the company hit upon an idea that became key to its subsequent acquisitions. They entered a partnership agreement with fifth-tier SSV Markranstädt. The tiny suburban Leipzig outfit would form the basis of a club earmarked for the city's unoccupied 43,000-seat Zentralstadion, which would become Red Bull Arena, and the club, due to DFB rules, were named RB Leipzig.

An €800 annual membership scheme open only to a select few Red Bull GmbH people ensured the club met the criteria of German football's rule requiring at least 50% +1 of a club's shares to be held by members, even if there were only seven of them. Because everything else was expendable, RB Leipzig established two things: that Red Bull's most important asset when buying a club was not its fanbase or history but merely its playing licence; and the extremes to which they would go to achieve their aims.

The club tweeted: 'We will not change the badge.' The following season they were renamed Red Bull Bragantino
It also established the power of partnerships. Frustrated at ÖFB rules preventing Austrian Bundesliga reserve teams from being promoted to professional second-tier football, in 2012 Red Bull Salzburg formed a partnership with third-tier USK Anif. It successfully argued with the league that because it now operated under USK Anif's playing licence, the renamed club, FC Liefering, wasn't Red Bull Salzburg's reserves at all — despite wearing Red Bull Salzburg's colours and playing at Red Bull Salzburg's ground.

In 2019, having failed to promote Red Bull Brasil to Série A, the company again signed a partnership, this time with second-tier Clube Atlético Bragantino in Bragança Paulista, sixty miles north of São Paulo. Red Bull sponsored the club's shirts which, like the rest of its identity, it was assured would remain untouched. "Não mudará escudo," the club tweeted. "We will not change the badge." Boosted by the arrival of Red Bull Brasil's infrastructure, they were promptly promoted in special edition black and white shirts harking back to a 1990s era fondly remembered by fans. It was the last shirt Clube Atlético Bragantino ever wore, because the following season they were renamed Red Bull Bragantino.

To 2024, and Red Bull GmbH has once again established a partnership, this time in the largest one-club city in the UK, the company's second-biggest market globally, with all the usual assurances. Sure, it's a minority shareholding and the buck, he insists, may well stop with Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe now, but what about when it doesn't? What value is there in saying, "It's not going to be the Leeds Red Bulls — they understand that," about a company with two decades' worth of workarounds as precedents? Red Bull Salzburg are called FC Salzburg in European competition; RB stands not for the obvious but for RasenBallsport; neither FC Liefering's name nor badge has any bulls whatsoever.

Following the death of Red Bull GmbH co-founder Dieter Mateschitz in 2022, it is hoped the firm has mellowed in its approach to ownership and is open to conventional sponsorship. But its initial stake at Leeds United, and the now-familiar routine of its introduction as a partnership, suggests otherwise. As fantastic as Leeds' away kit looks in all yellow with the Smiley badge, such priceless heritage is devalued when appearing next to the logo of an owner of multiple clubs that pulled a similar stunt at one they subsequently rebranded just five years ago.

For all these reasons and more, none of them to do with the colour or even the word red, whatever they go on to do at or with Elland Road, Red Bull GmbH at Leeds United is objectionable and sows serious doubts over 49ers Enterprises' understanding of football tradition and fan culture. The energy drink marketing company's presence in LS11 will become increasingly divisive over time. ⬢

leedslife

Whatever your views, whatever you think will or won't happen, they're here and Leeds United are already a Red Bull club. Get used to seeing that logo. But it's not the colour or the word Red, it's everything they've done elsewhere which makes this partnership objectionable. #lufc

Red Bull is not a normal company. It didn't invent nor even manufactures its own product, which the company exists to market worldwide. It deployed the same strategy 20 years ago when moving into football, where it specialises in club takeover and rebranding by stealth. #lufc

SV Austria Salzburg (2005), NY/NJ Metrostars (2006), SSV Markranstädt (2007) and CA Bragantino (2019) all fell to corporate colonialism. Four fanbases whose views on Red Bull were as initially disparate as ours are now. The two clubs it founded, RB Ghana and Brasil, failed. #lufc
Red Bull is an adept and patient buyer.
Two decades of takeovers on three continents where timescales and forms of engagement vary, but the ultimate objective is control. #lufc

Operating in the cracks of regulation, Red Bull use often extreme means to circumvent and deceive. It has learned that the most effective way to manipulate authorities, regional, national or international, is from within. #lufc

Long before the term even existed, Red Bull pioneered sportswashing, multi-club ownership, the oppression of fan culture and distortion of competition. There'll be questions, too many for one thread, but over time we'll explore matters and monitor developments in real time. #lufc

Blank_File

Takk for deling Leedslife. Jeg har lest om dette ved tidligere anledninger, og dette stemmer svært godt overens, men males kanskje med enda større pensel. Og siden de har lyktes med denne strategien alle steder de har overtatt klubber, så er det bare et spørsmål om tid for oss også. Ei ulykke kommer sjelden alene.

stian

49'ers er på ganske tynn is blant fansen nå. Der de selger inn sitt eierskap som ultraprofesjonelt og langsiktig, er status så langt at de ser ut til å slakte klubben. Selger unna alt av verdi, og har åpnet døren for et potensielt rovdyr på eiersiden. Hvis dette fortsetter, føyer de seg inn på en meget tvilsom liste over elendige eiere.

Og som flere har sagt tidligere - hva er disse greiene med å «overtale» spillere til å bli? Ikke ett eneste sted har jeg lest at Rutter har takket nei til noe nytt kontraktsforslag. Hva er overtalingen da? «Vi tilbyr deg ikke noe bedre vilkår, men vær litt grei da». Marathe er i søvne både innenfor og utenfor forhandlingssituasjoner. Nå må det komme en toppsignering i øæpet av to uker, og ikke noe lavbudsjetts lånetull. Hvis ikke så er de i seriøs unåde hos fansen.

Dennis

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Er det niende sesongen dems på rad i PL?
Brighton er jo ledende på dette ut fra ressurser. I tillegg finner de talenter som kommer unna søkelyset til de store klubbene.
Slik jeg ser det har de endel innprintet elementer som de fikk effektivisert i stor grad da Ashwort kom til for 5-6 år siden.

*Seniorlaget er i en stabil og sunn posisjon sportslig til å integrere nye/unge spillere.
*Det ligger gode rammer hva gjelder kultur, forutsigbarhet og utvikling.
*Spillernes rolle og alder passer alltid med Brightons taktiske struktur på banen.
*De signerer unge spillere med visjonen om at han skal utvikles for en rollespiller som allerede er betydelig i en 11ér.

Så kan man jo sammenligne med Leeds...

Vi skal interegrere forhåpentligvis 4 spillere på overgangsvinduets siste dager.
Inn i en klubb der veldig mange spillere før dem har slitt med manglende tålmodighet, store forventninger og under flomlys som har plukket fra hverandre gode spillere fordi klubben alltid ligger et skritt etter sportslig godt drevet klubber som Brighton.

Dan Ashworth er nok en veldig viktig del av det Brighton har klart å skape de siste årene. Det er ikke uten grunn at han først ble henta til nyrike Newcastle, før Scum var på banen. Sist jeg leste noe om dette, så var det snakk om at de måtte ut med over £10 mill for Ashworth. Det ble også spekulert i at Brighton krevde rundt £5 mill for han, da han reiste nordover.

Han var neppe alene om å stake ut Brightons vei, men det viktigste er at de tilsynelatende har klart å videreføre strategien i de to og et halvt årene etter at han forlot posten sin. Så kan du se til Leeds. Alt som ble bygget opp under Bielsa, og i stor grad av mannen selv, ramlet sammen uker etter at han fikk fyken. Som om det var planen å viske den tiden ut så raskt som mulig.

Det er vel her det kniper hos Leeds United for tida. Det virker ikke å være en rød tråd som overlever personell, trenere og spillere. Man tilpasser seg selvsagt, men å kaste om på alt hver gang bidrar ikke til noen stabil klubb i positiv utvikling. Akkurat nå føles det som om eierne er andre steder og vi driver med et garasjesalg.
Marching on together!

Dennis

August was costly, how much must your house be in order so you're ready to go again this August?

Marathe: "That's probably the most exciting thing about this season is we played I mean, what do you guys think, the first month of the season with one hand tied behind our back, because of some of the player ins and outs ,some players hadn't come in yet. Some players we had some contractual issues with and so we really started our season with a hand tied behind our back.[...]
I'm excited about this season that we can come out, being fully competitive from the first match of the season, through 46. I'm really excited to see what we can do. I'm excited about the fact that we have a full off-season. Like I said an extra five weeks to start planning our player and squad strategy. It just gives us a head start relative to ourselves and what we had before and it's why I have the same concurrent feelings of feeling hurt and sad but also excited about the future."


Fem ekstra uker, som han påpeker, men i samme situasjon som i fjor. Melk har lenger holdbarhet enn hva som ble sagt i slutten av mai/primo juni. Andre steder har han fortalt om vesentlige summer klare til investering, men at PSR spiller en rolle. Vel, det kan ikke spille en rolle nå (for neste sesong), så da er det vel bare å trykke på knappen?
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GeirO

49'ers gikk vel 120 mill. pund i overskudd på sommerens kjøp og salg. Er det ingen som har spurt dem om hva de skal gjøre med pengene. Går de til å slette gammel gjeld? Eller utvide ER? Eller nye spillere i januar? Eller til mer smør på brødskiva til direktørene...?
MOT

Lucas the Kop Cat

Quote from: GeirO on August 31, 2024, 18:45:3849'ers gikk vel 120 mill. pund i overskudd på sommerens kjøp og salg. Er det ingen som har spurt dem om hva de skal gjøre med pengene. Går de til å slette gammel gjeld? Eller utvide ER? Eller nye spillere i januar? Eller til mer smør på brødskiva til direktørene...?
De har jo ikke fått inn 120 mill på konto. Dette er avtaler som går over flere år. Som også kjøpene. Så hva som er kommet inn av cash dette vinduet er helt uklart for andre enn , økonomiavdelingen i Leeds vil jeg tro.

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stian

Quote from: Lucas the Kop Cat on August 31, 2024, 22:40:08
Quote from: GeirO on August 31, 2024, 18:45:3849'ers gikk vel 120 mill. pund i overskudd på sommerens kjøp og salg. Er det ingen som har spurt dem om hva de skal gjøre med pengene. Går de til å slette gammel gjeld? Eller utvide ER? Eller nye spillere i januar? Eller til mer smør på brødskiva til direktørene...?
De har jo ikke fått inn 120 mill på konto. Dette er avtaler som går over flere år. Som også kjøpene. Så hva som er kommet inn av cash dette vinduet er helt uklart for andre enn , økonomiavdelingen i Leeds vil jeg tro.

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Synes GeirO stiller noen betimelige spørsmål her. Vi får ikke alle transfer-inntektene på en gang, men vi betaler heller ikke alle transfer-kostnader med en gang heller. Det er all grunn til å være på vakt på en eier som er like interessert i å kortsiktig trekke overskudd/utbytte ut av klubben som langsiktig bygging av klubben.

Det kan godt være de har gode forklaringer: Det kan være de ivaretar likviditeten for å klare utgifter som forfaller, det kan være noen noe vi ikke vet om PSR, bygging av en robust økonomi for å virkelig handle ved et opprykk, eller det kan være transfer-mål som ikke ville til Leeds. Men hvor er 49ers i kommunikasjonen om den økonomiske situasjonen og sin langtidsintensjon med klubben?

Jeg har ikke som utgangspunkt at de er en gjeng med Gordon Gekkos som slakter klubben. Men jeg savner kommunikasjon til fansen om hvordan de tenker rundt den store differansen mellom penger fra salg og penger som skal brukes til kjøp.

Asbjørn

Eg poster denne her også - det er jo her den hører heime :)

Anyways, Phil Braithwaite her har kanskje oversikt over det økonomiske?

A quick look at the impact of this transfer window on our PSR position over a multi year view. Negligible future impact from our dealings so far.

I'm sticking with the assumption Gray was sold in the 23/24 period (& Roca), including Schmidt at £2.5m (fees from  @LUFCDATA ) #LUFC

Future liabilities may be the reason we're being cautious with fees now despite the massive in year profit.

Also a reminder that this is just one component of PSR, the wage impact is less clear at this point.

https://x.com/PhilLUFC/status/1829536302511038949



...han legger til:
It's maybe worth adding that the in year impact before promotion was never more than £10m. This is Orta's legacy but we shouldn't forget much of that happened with the 49ers in the room. There's also room for a small gamble this season IMO (a £15m-£20m player) #LUFC
https://x.com/PhilLUFC/status/1829552563932574148
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Asbjørn

Kinnear forventet å være med på Square Ball innspilling snart men noe har han sagt allerede...

Leeds United CEO Angus Kinnear expected to do his annual appearance with The Square Ball but the latest Supporters Advisory Board minutes give a flavour, perhaps, of what he'll say on some issues.

'No amount of money can attract certain players'

#lufc

https://x.com/grahamsmyth/status/1833474748602368087?s=61

Artikkelen
 https://t.co/q9usMpSD8M
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Asbjørn

Quote from: Asbjørn on September 10, 2024, 18:35:34Kinnear forventet å være med på Square Ball innspilling snart men noe har han sagt allerede...

Leeds United CEO Angus Kinnear expected to do his annual appearance with The Square Ball but the latest Supporters Advisory Board minutes give a flavour, perhaps, of what he'll say on some issues.

'No amount of money can attract certain players'

#lufc

https://x.com/grahamsmyth/status/1833474748602368087?s=61

Artikkelen
 https://t.co/q9usMpSD8M


Leeds United🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 The Championship 24/25

The TSB annual Kinnear edition:
Some takeaways in no particular order...

Angus open, warm, non-evasive and did not acknowledge his own excellent work this summer.

Stadium initial rebuild should lead to roughly 53k capacity, non corporate in North stand (mixed season ticket and general admission) with a mix of corporate and Premium General admission and season ticket non corporate in West Stand.

Hamer and Buendia named in passing as targets and 100s of players had been tracked across all positions.

We had to sell two this summer, Archie was not offered to clubs.

No Red Bull rename - Red Bull looking to enter regular sponsorship deals with 5-6 clubs in European football, Leeds are the first.
The financial aspect of the deal is toted as "transformational"

The good working relationship with Spurs again mentioned.

The "churn" needed for next season in the Prem translates to another extensive rebuild of the squad

Georgis departure was not expected.

Leeds turned down 8 figure offers for Struijk, Meslier, Gnonto, Ampadu and probably Gruev.

Promotion expected with play-offs seen as a possibility,though adjudged a worst case scenario.

49ers are a long term ownership with Lowry a regular attendee and the other board members becoming passionate about the club outside of the business remit.

Significant  internal structural change upon promotion more attuned to the standards and demands of the Premier league.

In the chaos that is Leeds, calm is needed at the controls.

Angus understands one key tenet and the 49ers are beginning to properly too, LEEDS UNITED ARE f**kING MASSIVE.

Club and Angus delighted over the success of the yellow shirt.

Retro badges may not be limited to this seasons shirt.

Good interview and i shall continue to trust in the 49ers.

Guru/Rikki

https://x.com/footballguru69/status/1834269858877608206?s=61&t=KF6bDF_lP8ZP8GAlg2t4VQ


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stian

Det er positivt at det kommuniseres fra klubben, men det er virkelig også et par ting som savnes knyttet til økonomien.

Det sies at de måtte selge to spillere, men ikke hvorfor. Hvilke summer var vi short på, og hva trengte vi pengene til? Når vi har solgt Archie, Summerville og Rutter, men takket nei til et stort bud på Meslier blir jeg litt i stuss. Jeg skjønner at det er noe med timingen på regnskapsår etc, men hva med å bare si ting som de er?

Fortsatt er det snakk om at den finansielle siden med Red Bull er fantastisk, samtidig som vi har solgt spillere for en milliard mer enn vi har kjøpt inn. Vi har solgt spillerne som sto bak 2/3 av målene fra i fjor, men forventningen er fortsatt opprykk. Jeg får flere nye spørsmål enn svar fra uttalelsene til Kinnear.

Kato

Storfornøyd med salg av gul drakt. Intet hørt om den hvite.

Har ikke tro på noen av de der karene.
 

Asbjørn

Tipper vi får høre mer rundt planene med Elland Road i neste uke:
Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe will face questions over the club's Red Bull partnership and Elland Road development next week in a pair of meetings with supporters.

Marathe, who heads up the 49ers Enterprises ownership group, will be in the country ahead of Leeds' Friday night fixture with Sheffield United at Elland Road. Twenty-four hours prior to that he will sit down with the Supporters Advisory Board [SAB] and the Leeds United Supporters Trust in what the club say will be off-the-record meetings to help him better understand the present feeling among fans and provide some transparency for the two groups.

A spokesperson for the Trust told the YEP that they welcome the chance to get a direct insight into the running of the club and members plan to ask Marathe about the boardroom partnership with Red Bull and plans to expand Elland Road.

Hele artikkelen:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-chair-paraag-marathe-to-face-red-bull-and-elland-road-questions-in-off-record-meetings-4820885
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Asbjørn

Det går mot exit for Leeds CEO Angus Kinnear. Etter 8 år er han den eneste 'overlevende' etter Radrizanis eierskap. Han blir blant fansen omtalt som politiker og glatt, men fleksibel, og 49'ers ønsket å beholde hans kompetanse da de overtok.

Nå virker det i idlertid å være end game.
Evertons nye eiere ser på ham som deres nye CEO.

Vi snakker etter sesongen.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/high-ranking-leeds-united-figure-set-to-join-premier-league-side-everton-5009144
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#139
Pope om det samme intervjuet av Marathe:
Leeds United chairman Paraag Marathe has spoken at the FT Business of Football Conference:

Pre-recorded interview, done last week, before the reports about 49ers buying into Rangers broke (although rumours were mentioned).

Thanks to @sistoney67 for following

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PM on Current feeling at #LUFC

Unfinished business, so much potential, so many places we want to take this club and I feel really optimistic about where we are going. Hopefully in a few months get back to where we want to be and take off from there.

#LUFC

PM: Pushing the limits of PSR, staying within the rules, is what we want to do. A winning club is a healthy club. We want to put every pound back into the team.

#LUFC

PM re Finance. As a relegated club, we do have access to funds (parachutes). You have to recruit the best players, find the right manager and the right chemistry. There are plenty of examples in sport of a club with the highest wage bill not winning the league.

#LUFC

PM (Stadium plans) Expand Elland Road in a couple of phases to take us first to 47,000, then 53,000. Paramout importance is to keep the cauldron we have today. Other clubs don't like playing at ER and we want to preserve that. We have a fantastic supporter base. #LUFC

PM: We want more in the stadium but preserving the magic for what ER is. We should have more announcements in a couple of months. We want to do the work without compromising seats, which is a bit tricky.

#LUFC

PM: Red Bull Sports has done a phenomenal job in terms of performance and how they operate their sports business. When they first approached me, they completely understood what it means to be LUFC. Has the potential to be right up there with the European greats.

#LUFC

PM: We brought them in as a partner and minority investor.

Will Red Bull buy club?

That is not contemplated at all. It is not something we have discussed ever.

#LUFC

PM: (Generating additional finance) PL is a different level, fortunately for me, Leeds had great success in the 1970s and 1990s, with that comes a global fanbase. In PL there is an opportunity to unlock and monetise that to help get players on the pitch.

#LUFC

PM re buy another club? We always have our eyes and ears open and look at other opportunities. Leeds Utd stands alone, if we were to look at another club that would stand alone. What you can share and do on the sporting side, we haven't looked at one club as a feeder club. #LUFC

PM re Rangers rumours: I can't comment on rumours. We have been looking at other clubs. We are looking at clubs with the potential for growth.

PM says he never realised how much he'd fall in love with #LUFC where we inherited a challenging portfolio with the credit card bill at Leeds. What is important is sustained success.


PM on if this time next year he'll be chairman of PL club? I certainly hope so. That is the plan. I thought I would be this year. I am optimistic. Daniel Farke is doing a fantastic job but for now one game at a time.
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Marathe sier de rette tingene, så er det viktigste å følge det opp. De er selvsagt her for å tjene penger for investorene, men ettersom Leeds har et udiskutabelt potensial både sportslig og kommersielt, kan dette fint samsvare med fansens interesser. Vi er ikke vitne til en Ken Bates-eier her, hvor det lille som kommer av overskudd forsvinner, men (sannsynligvis) en eier som vet at det må investeres tungt i infrastruktur om det i fremtida skal kunne selges for en langt høyere sum. Underveis er en god del av disse kjendisinvestorene fra basket, golf og Hollywood lovet morsomme tider i europeisk fotball. Så får de heller være med, selv om jeg ikke helt skjønner hva Padraag mener "er Leeds" med å få hilsen fra Paris Hilton i forkant av play off-finalen.

Det at man ønsker å beholde mostanders ubehag ved Elland Road samtidig som man utvider stadion er godt å høre. Man er nødt å øke matchday revenue og kan ikke tjene 1/5 av det Spurs tar inn på hjemmekamper. TH Stadium er flott den, men jeg ønsker selv at man beholder den tradisjonelle engelske arenaen og ikke minst historikken med Elland Road. Nå er vel Leeds' plan å "etterligne" Anfield både i størrelse og inntekter. Heller det, enn en Toilet Bowl-stadium. Billigere er det også; bygger man en arena til en milliard pund, så skal det betales.

Når det gjelder eiere som har flere klubber, er jeg ikke så positiv. For meg er det et bilde på det som er feil med fotball. Eierne er der for å tjene penger, det er ingen hemmelighet, men dette med å skaffe seg et nettverk av klubber er jeg ikke spesielt fan av. Så får man heller være så hyklersk at i så fall håper jeg vi kan tjene på det. Så om 49ers ønsker seg Rangers og eventuelle andre klubber, får vi håpe det i det minste øker speider- og rekrutteringsnettverket. Maraag snakker om tette skott, men han kan selvsagt ikke heller si at Rangers potensielt blir en farmerklubb.

Det er også liten tvil om at Red Bull kan tjene Leeds positivt med måten å drive idrett på og nettverket de har opparbeidet seg, i tillegg til de økonomiske musklene. Idretten utvikler seg hele tida og selv om engelsk fotball er langt fra det jeg først ble interessert i, er det ingen glede i å stå igjen på perrongen når toget går heller.

Av erfaring forsiktig skeptiker til 49ers og RB, og handling trumfer ord hver dag. De kan begynne med å ansette en garvet, kynisk og dyktig mann i Angus Kinnears rolle.
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Quote from: Dennis on February 27, 2025, 11:52:02Marathe sier de rette tingene, så er det viktigste å følge det opp. De er selvsagt her for å tjene penger for investorene, men ettersom Leeds har et udiskutabelt potensial både sportslig og kommersielt, kan dette fint samsvare med fansens interesser. Vi er ikke vitne til en Ken Bates-eier her, hvor det lille som kommer av overskudd forsvinner, men (sannsynligvis) en eier som vet at det må investeres tungt i infrastruktur om det i fremtida skal kunne selges for en langt høyere sum. Underveis er en god del av disse kjendisinvestorene fra basket, golf og Hollywood lovet morsomme tider i europeisk fotball. Så får de heller være med, selv om jeg ikke helt skjønner hva Padraag mener "er Leeds" med å få hilsen fra Paris Hilton i forkant av play off-finalen.

Det at man ønsker å beholde mostanders ubehag ved Elland Road samtidig som man utvider stadion er godt å høre. Man er nødt å øke matchday revenue og kan ikke tjene 1/5 av det Spurs tar inn på hjemmekamper. TH Stadium er flott den, men jeg ønsker selv at man beholder den tradisjonelle engelske arenaen og ikke minst historikken med Elland Road. Nå er vel Leeds' plan å "etterligne" Anfield både i størrelse og inntekter. Heller det, enn en Toilet Bowl-stadium. Billigere er det også; bygger man en arena til en milliard pund, så skal det betales.

Når det gjelder eiere som har flere klubber, er jeg ikke så positiv. For meg er det et bilde på det som er feil med fotball. Eierne er der for å tjene penger, det er ingen hemmelighet, men dette med å skaffe seg et nettverk av klubber er jeg ikke spesielt fan av. Så får man heller være så hyklersk at i så fall håper jeg vi kan tjene på det. Så om 49ers ønsker seg Rangers og eventuelle andre klubber, får vi håpe det i det minste øker speider- og rekrutteringsnettverket. Maraag snakker om tette skott, men han kan selvsagt ikke heller si at Rangers potensielt blir en farmerklubb.

Det er også liten tvil om at Red Bull kan tjene Leeds positivt med måten å drive idrett på og nettverket de har opparbeidet seg, i tillegg til de økonomiske musklene. Idretten utvikler seg hele tida og selv om engelsk fotball er langt fra det jeg først ble interessert i, er det ingen glede i å stå igjen på perrongen når toget går heller.

Av erfaring forsiktig skeptiker til 49ers og RB, og handling trumfer ord hver dag. De kan begynne med å ansette en garvet, kynisk og dyktig mann i Angus Kinnears rolle.

Undersøkte vi ikke modellen med en parably av   flere klubber under Radrizianni og?
Husker det ble belyst den gang, men husker ikke hva det var som gjorde at det ikke ble gjennomført?
Kan det ligge research og arbeid som 49ers gjennomfører når de er i hovedsete. De har jo garantert vært delaktige i det prosjektet under Rads eierskap.

Ellers enig og veldig positiv til hva de kommuniserer ut vedr Elland Road. Beholde identiteten tror jeg nok vi skal være glad for når man ser ulike eierskap rundt omkring.

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Leeds bekrefter at Angus Kinnear er på veg ut.
Peter McCormick ankommer/returnerer til Leeds i en nyopprettet stilling.

Leeds United confirm CEO exit and new arrival in special role as Marathe lauds 'incredible talent'

Major changes at Leeds United boardroom level have been announced.
Leeds United have confirmed the summer exit of Everton-bound CEO Angus Kinnear and will bring in a former Premier League chairman to fill a newly-created role.

"He will continue to serve as CEO until the end of the season to support a smooth handover process.

"The club is also delighted to welcome Peter McCormick, who has resigned from his current roles at the Premier League and will be joining the club as Executive Vice Chairman.

"Bringing his experience as the former Chair of both the Premier League and Football Association, McCormick will support chairman Paraag Marathe and other senior executives regarding strategic planning, stadium redevelopment and commercial matters, and will represent the club in key meetings."

The YEP understands McCormick is not regarded as a replacement for Kinnear and the club will consider the senior leadership structure between now and the summer.

The lawyer, who has expertise in financial fair play and the owners and directors' tests, has chaired both the Premier League and Football Association.

He was previously a director at Leeds United and will represent Marathe at the likes of league meetings. His arrival is expected imminently.

Alt her:
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-confirm-ceo-exit-and-new-arrival-in-special-role-as-marathe-lauds-incredible-talent-5023118
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Quote from: Asbjørn on July 17, 2023, 23:28:40YEP

 while NBA stars Russell Westbrook and Larry Nance Jr. are also involved in an investment capacity.



Larry Nance er skadet for tiden - desto større anledning har han til å ha på seg Leeds Utd retro-drakter :D

Larry Nance Jr. is injured and not playing, but he's wearing a Leeds United kit on the bench.
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Larry Nance Jr.'s love for soccer led him to become a part-owner of Leeds United, in case you didn't know. Manor Solomon scored the only goal in today's victory over Oxford United, and Leeds United can secure promotion to the Premier League in their next match.
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Quote from: Asbjørn on April 19, 2025, 23:49:28Larry Nance Jr. is injured and not playing, but he's wearing a Leeds United kit on the bench.


Den ene drakten hadde Radebe på ryggen.

Da kom denne X-utvekslingen
https://x.com/LucasRadebe/status/1913699956147490946
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For the record:

The Leeds board is now made up of Evans as managing director, retail magnate Peter Lowy, chairman Paraag Marathe, Eugene Schneur and Andrew Schwartzberg ahead of the team's return to the Premier League in August.
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-angus-kinnear-everton-5123536
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Eg har jo sett bildene av Larry Nance jr (altså har eg skjønt at der er en senior der et sted...) men har visst fint lite om ham.

Han kommer absolutt fordelaktig ut her

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6354530/2025/05/15/larry-nance-leeds-united-owner-nba/



Han sier egentlig alle de riktige tingene, uten at det virker å være fake..

Kankje av de aller mest uvesentlige tingene som står i artikkelen, så velger eg det likevel ut :)

Nance used to have an assortment of Premier League jerseys, but that changed in 2023.

"There are no other English clubs in my closet anymore. I won't do that," he said. "Some of the legends like Pelé, (Lionel) Messi, and Eto'o, they get to stay. But I won't wear anything other than Leeds that's English from here on out."
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Leeds United have raised fresh investment of around £120m by issuing new shares to existing investors off the back of promotion.

Shareholders are told the money will be put towards Elland Road's redevelopment and this summer's transfer window.

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6368290/2025/05/19/leeds-transfers-cash-injection/
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#149
Jeg har noen spørsmål om våre eiere, og det at sentrale ledere har forsvunnet fra klubben.
49'ers Enterprise har altså gått inn på eiersiden til Rangers F.C.
On the 30th May 2025, Andrew Cavanagh and Paraag Marathe bought a 51% stake in Rangers Football Club. Cavanagh became the Chairman and Marathe became Vice-Chair. Er dette fullstendig uproblematisk eller er det et "men"her?
Selv får jeg vondt i magen av tanken.
Så har vi "transfer guruene" Gretar Steinsson og Nick Hammond som begge har gjort fantastiske jobber og sikret oss de beste kjøpene i de to årene i Championship. Steinsson forsvant i høst og ble flyttet opp i 49ers Enterprises global football group systemet. Og Hammond på vei til Everton i våres. Etter at disse gutta forsvant har det ikke kommet noen spillere inn dørene på Elland Road. Hva er forklaringen på at Steinsson og Hammond forsvant? Hva tenker 49'ers på her? Seg selv framfor Leeds (Steinsson)?. Og uten å erstatte stillingen til Steinsson? Angus Kinnear blåser jeg som dere skjønner lang marsj i. Og var Hammond fra dag 1 kun en midlertidig ansettelse? Hvorfor var han aldri aktuell for en fast lederjobb?
Så vi lar altså to superkompetente herrer forsvinne ut døra og overlater ansvaret til tidligere akademisjef Adam Underwood med tittelen Head Of Football Operations at Leeds United Football Club. Hva har han å fare med? Og har rekrutteringsarbeidet i Leeds vært så forrykende de siste 6-7 årene? Og hva tenker 49'ers på her? Jeg klarer ikke å begripe annet enn at dette er en formidabel nedskalering av kompetanse med tanke på klubbens beste. "Summer 2025 Official Transfer Thread" på Waccoe har nå passert 764 sider og fortsatt ingen spillerkjøp. Og våre eiere eier nå en av våre argeste motstandere. Hvem vinner "Battle of Britain"? Kjør debatt.