Rykter: Spillere inn og spillere ut, del 28. Foran sommervinduet 2025...

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auren

"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

SupALeedS

Mange spennende rykter om dagen.

Djenepo - offensiv kantspiller som kan bekle begge sider, Spilt PL med Soton
Sam Johnston - PL erfaring
Manor Solomon- Er vel forventet at man signerer han?
Troy Parrott - Spiss
Kalvin Phillips- Hentes han hjem? Jeg mener vi bør se en annen vei
Aron Ramsdale- Linkes inn som første keeper


Spillere jeg tror forsvinner:

Sam Byram - kontrakt går ut
Junior Firpo- Kontrakt går ut
Max Wober-  Mye skadet, tror han forsvinner
Illan Meslier- Tror han selges pga alle feil i år
Joe Gelhardt - Utlånt til Hull- tror han forsvinner
Gyabi- Utlånt til Plymouth - tror han forsvinner
Jack Harrisson - utlånt til Everton - tror han forsvinner
Patrick Bamford - Selges - Slippes pga skader og lite spilletid.
Alex Cairns - Er vel greit å skippe ut
Manor Solomon- Tilbake etter lån
Joe Rotthwell - TIlbake etter lån
Guiloavogui - Eller hvordan det skrives, kontrakt utløpt.

Dette er 12 stk, jeg tror forsvinner. Noen har jo ikke vært i stallen i år. Men det betyr mye aktivitet i sommer :)


Alex

auren

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#lufc scout will be in attendance at Sunday's derby between Olympiakos and Panathinaikos to watch Greek international RB Georgios Vagiannidis (http://sportdog.gr)

#efc & #bhafc have submitted proposals for 23yo Panathinaikos RB Georgios Vangiannidis

PSV & Sporting have previously been linked but a move to the Premier League beckons (Athlitiki Kyriaki)

CAA Base's Frank Trimboli flew to Athens by private jet at Easter to speak to Vagiannidis after he left his previous agent and signed him up

Report claims "#efc and #lufc appear ready to submit offers of 8-10m euros to Panathinaikos


auren
"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

Cherry

Forsøker å bli klok på "regnestykket" ift reglementet /reglene man skal manøvrere etter
som klubb - nå i PL.  Det går i ball hver gang....

I dag leser jeg 3 artikler , der man tydelig kommuniserer at vi har ca 60 mill £ som vi kan benytte
da "penge-bonusen" på ca 160 mill £ (??) deles opp over 3 år, og hva som utbetales 1. året oppe igjen (altså kommende sesong) fratrekkes det man har i gjeld/utestående.... det er her jeg mister oversikten..

i VG står det at vi vil ha ca 150 mill £ og handle for......de har vel da tatt hele summen (som vi visstnok får over 3 sesonger - OM vi holder oss i PL)

Så i den siste er det helt klart at vi MÅ selge spillere , og etter det har ca 60 mill £ og handle for (men hvordan vet man det før noen er solgt??).

Vi har eiere nå med kapital, men får ikke lov å bruke mer enn en "viss sum" - men HVORDAN man kommer frem til den summen - det ligger litt utenfor rekkevidde`kjenner jeg  :o .
Litt slik som hvor mange poeng klubber har blitt trukket pga regelbrudd i PL dette her....nei faktisk er det mer uforståelig! :-X

Enlighten me please!!!
 

Asbjørn

Quote from: Cherry on May 07, 2025, 13:48:33Enlighten me please!!!

No enlightenment coming from here, nå :)

Dennis har prøvd å sannsynliggjøre hvilke rammer vi må forholde oss til.
Eg leser det med interesse og søker å se hva andre kilder angir.

Teamtalk av i dag tror jeg er altfor høye. De er heller ikke hva de fleste vil kalle altfor troværdige.

men det er et innspill i debatten...

Leeds United manager Daniel Farke and the club's new sporting director Adam Underwood have learned exactly how much money they will be given to spend on new players this summer  – while a report has revealed the six cornerstone players that the Whites plan to build their side around in the Premier League.

To that end, Football Insider reports that Farke and Underwood will be granted funds of around £150m to spend this summer, though more money could yet be freed up by some departures too.

As part of that plan, it's also claimed Whites boss Farke is 'lining up' deals for as many as 10 new players this summer, with the priorities being goalkeeper, a striker, a No.10 and potentially a new left-back and centre-half. The rest of the signings, with the club working on two plans all year depending on the division they would ultimately end up in, is already considered a work in progress.

Despite plans to spend £150m this summer, former West Brom boss Tony Mowbray feels the Whites may need a minimum £200m investment to ensure their survival back among the elite.

Speaking after their 1-1 draw at Elland Road in March, Mowbray told Birmingham Live: "(Leeds) are very, very good. I'm sure in my mind they are going up, I think for this football club it's about what they do in the summer. I had a chat with Daniel, how much are they going to spend? How are they going to survive?



https://www.teamtalk.com/leeds-united/premier-league-transfer-budget-revealed-daniel-farke-lines-up-10-new-signings
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Fantasyland

Rob Dorsett
@RobDorsettSky
Excl: #lufc interested in #efc striker Beto, I'm told. Leeds have a transfer kitty of £100m+ such is their ambition to stay in PL. Unclear if Everton would allow their joint leading goalscorer (7) to leave, but huge reorganisation for Moyes this summer - with 15 out of contract.

Dennis

Quote from: Cherry on May 07, 2025, 13:48:33Forsøker å bli klok på "regnestykket" ift reglementet /reglene man skal manøvrere etter
som klubb - nå i PL.  Det går i ball hver gang....

I dag leser jeg 3 artikler , der man tydelig kommuniserer at vi har ca 60 mill £ som vi kan benytte
da "penge-bonusen" på ca 160 mill £ (??) deles opp over 3 år, og hva som utbetales 1. året oppe igjen (altså kommende sesong) fratrekkes det man har i gjeld/utestående.... det er her jeg mister oversikten..

i VG står det at vi vil ha ca 150 mill £ og handle for......de har vel da tatt hele summen (som vi visstnok får over 3 sesonger - OM vi holder oss i PL)

Så i den siste er det helt klart at vi MÅ selge spillere , og etter det har ca 60 mill £ og handle for (men hvordan vet man det før noen er solgt??).

Vi har eiere nå med kapital, men får ikke lov å bruke mer enn en "viss sum" - men HVORDAN man kommer frem til den summen - det ligger litt utenfor rekkevidde`kjenner jeg  :o .
Litt slik som hvor mange poeng klubber har blitt trukket pga regelbrudd i PL dette her....nei faktisk er det mer uforståelig! :-X

Enlighten me please!!!

Ikke full belysning kanskje, men jeg siterte deg i 'Økonomisk hverdag'-tråden og svarte deg med mine tanker om det der.
Marching on together!

morten1966

Hva med Thelo Aasgard fra Luton? Tror han kan bli en bra spiller. Sikkert ikke dyr heller. Kjøpe og lånet ut?

stian

Quote from: morten1966 on May 10, 2025, 10:37:04Hva med Thelo Aasgard fra Luton? Tror han kan bli en bra spiller. Sikkert ikke dyr heller. Kjøpe og lånet ut?

Er ikke han en typisk indreløper? Jeg har også sansen for Aasgard, av det lille jeg har sett av ham, men usikker på hvor godt han passer inn i spillestilen til Farke.

peacock

Quote from: stian on May 10, 2025, 11:19:51
Quote from: morten1966 on May 10, 2025, 10:37:04Hva med Thelo Aasgard fra Luton? Tror han kan bli en bra spiller. Sikkert ikke dyr heller. Kjøpe og lånet ut?

Er ikke han en typisk indreløper? Jeg har også sansen for Aasgard, av det lille jeg har sett av ham, men usikker på hvor godt han passer inn i spillestilen til Farke.

Tror ikke det er nivået vi skal legge oss på. Nei, gi meg Sander Berge, om det skal være en nordmann!

Asbjørn

Solomon har IGJEN takket Leeds for dette året og slått fast at han ikke aner hva som skjer.

Harry derimot hinter om hva som må skje :D

Harry knows #LUFC



https://x.com/lufcsnapchats/status/1921265792705867864
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auren

Kyle Newbould
@kylenewbould
Leeds United keeping an eye on Besiktas striker Semih Kılıçsoy, according to reports in Turkey. 19y/o has 16 goals in 75 first-team games and has previously been linked with Aston Villa and Newcastle United.


auren
"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

auren

"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

auren

En fresh keeperlink nå nettopp:


Uriel Iugt
@urieliugt
🚨🇵🇾#Fulham y #LeedsUnited están interesados en Orlando Gil.

↪️ El "Ciclón" está al tanto y saben que llegarán ofertas en el próximo mercado.

✴️ Tiene contrato hasta diciembre de 2027.
@JacobsBen
 🤝🏻

#Fulham and #LeedsUnited are interested in Orlando Gil. The "Cyclone" is aware and knows that offers will arrive in the next market.

He has a contract until December 2027.


Ukjent navn for min del.

auren
"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.

auren

"Guardiola said: 'You know more about Barcelona than I do!'"
Marcelo Bielsa, 16.01.19, etter Spygate-foredraget sitt.


Kato

Ennå ikke et rykte, men går vel ikke lenge før Emiliano Buendia er linket til oss. Lånt ut til Bayer Leverkusen denne våren fra Aston Villa. Har så langt 10 kamper og 2 mål der. Ubenyttet reserve sist.
 

Cherry

Quote from: Kato on May 11, 2025, 23:18:24Ennå ikke et rykte, men går vel ikke lenge før Emiliano Buendia er linket til oss. Lånt ut til Bayer Leverkusen denne våren fra Aston Villa. Har så langt 10 kamper og 2 mål der. Ubenyttet reserve sist.

Norwich favorittene til Farke, Buendia, Cantwell og Max Aarons....tipper 1 av de inn porten ja!
 

Killa

Quote from: Cherry on May 12, 2025, 11:56:29
Quote from: Kato on May 11, 2025, 23:18:24Ennå ikke et rykte, men går vel ikke lenge før Emiliano Buendia er linket til oss. Lånt ut til Bayer Leverkusen denne våren fra Aston Villa. Har så langt 10 kamper og 2 mål der. Ubenyttet reserve sist.

Norwich favorittene til Farke, Buendia, Cantwell og Max Aarons....tipper 1 av de inn porten ja!

Håper egentlig lista legges noe høyere enn dette....
Men - såklart - hadde vi fått inn Buendia og hvis Farke hadde fått han tilbake opp på sitt tidligere toppnivå hadde det vært greit!

Dennis

McAtee-ryktet er spennende. Jeg ville trodd det var urealistisk, men Man City har solgt arvesølv tidligere (Cole Palmer) for å pynte på FFP. De har brukt mye penger i januar og skal vel ha en erstatter for De Bruyne i sommer. Skulle de havne utenfor CL-plassene brenner det nok godt i den klubben...

Spilleren selv blir 23 år i høst og regelmessig spill er sikkert interessant. Ett år igjen på kontrakten også, så dersom den skulle gå ut og Man City ønsker mer enn utdanningskompensasjon må de selge han i sommer.

Kanskje ikke heeeeelt urealistisk?
Marching on together!

Asbjørn

DEt har kommet OM-rykter rundt Solomon.

Marseille have opened talks with Manor Solomon's agents to determine his wage demands ahead of a possible move to the south of France.
His signing has already been given the green light by manager Roberto De Zerbi - via Sky Sports reporter Sacha Tavolieri
...
Asked the very well connected
@FrazFletcher
 about this and he says 'Soloman open to talking to Leeds about a perm switch despite Marseille. He would give them the opportunity to do something as he has LOVED it'

Story to follow on
@TEAMtalk
 over lunchtime...
https://x.com/marshyleeds/status/1921872677892972905

Dette er teamtalk men som det står ovenfor, Sky meldte det først...
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GeirO

Quote from: Dennis on May 12, 2025, 13:11:48McAtee-ryktet er spennende. Jeg ville trodd det var urealistisk, men Man City har solgt arvesølv tidligere (Cole Palmer) for å pynte på FFP. De har brukt mye penger i januar og skal vel ha en erstatter for De Bruyne i sommer. Skulle de havne utenfor CL-plassene brenner det nok godt i den klubben...

Spilleren selv blir 23 år i høst og regelmessig spill er sikkert interessant. Ett år igjen på kontrakten også, så dersom den skulle gå ut og Man City ønsker mer enn utdanningskompensasjon må de selge han i sommer.

Kanskje ikke heeeeelt urealistisk?
Ikke helt, men den største bøygen blir vel å utkonkurrere ti andre PL-klubber som sikler etter McAtee...tror jeg.
MOT

Asbjørn

Quote from: Asbjørn on May 12, 2025, 14:17:23DEt har kommet OM-rykter rundt Solomon.

Marseille have opened talks with Manor Solomon's agents to determine his wage demands ahead of a possible move to the south of France.
His signing has already been given the green light by manager Roberto De Zerbi - via Sky Sports reporter Sacha Tavolieri
...
Asked the very well connected
@FrazFletcher
 about this and he says 'Soloman open to talking to Leeds about a perm switch despite Marseille. He would give them the opportunity to do something as he has LOVED it'

Story to follow on
@TEAMtalk
 over lunchtime...
https://x.com/marshyleeds/status/1921872677892972905

Dette er teamtalk men som det står ovenfor, Sky meldte det først...

Apparently Marseille have denied interest in Manor Solomon.. #LUFC
https://x.com/MrROSSii1990/status/1922175907357175821
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Asbjørn

Vi har allerede hørt det. Leeds satser på erfarenhet og fysikk i kommende vindu. Vi brente oss, spesielt foran nedrykkssesongen. Vi hentet gode spillere, men som eksempel Rutter slo ikke til før vi allerede hadde forlatt PL.

YEP har sett på hva nedrykkstrioen gjorde feil ved opprykket.

Newly promoted clubs spent £127 million on 12 signings from existing Premier League clubs last summer.

Kortversjonen er at dette var bortkastede penger.

Additions included the likes of Oliver Skipp, who joined Leicester City permanently from Tottenham Hotspur in a £20 million transfer and Southampton goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale, who swapped Arsenal for St. Mary's Stadium in an initial £18 million deal; few can be described as success stories.

Odsonne Edouard and Maxwel Cornet joined Leicester and Southampton on loan, respectively. The former has played just 142 minutes of league football this year for the Foxes, failing to score, while Cornet's spell on the south coast was cut short in January after two outings for the Saints.

There were free transfer moves as well with Adam Lallana returning to Southampton and Bobby De Cordova-Reid signing for Leicester, but the bulk of the transfers concerned involved fees.

....
It is often suggested that a promoted team's best way of maintaining themselves in the top flight beyond their initial season back in the big time is to sign proven Premier League quality, players with knowledge of the league. On the face of it, this past season's evidence suggests business is slightly more nuanced than that.

While Leicester and Southampton added players from across Europe as well as the Premier League, Ipswich went down a more domestic route, signing several new faces from Championship clubs. It is likely to give the Tractor Boys an advantage in the second tier next season, with an immediate bounceback likely, but the Suffolk club have found themselves bested in the majority of fixtures this term.

....

Leeds' own transfer success stories in recent seasons have been varied in terms of their origin. The likes of Ao Tanaka, signed from Germany's second tier, Willy Gnonto, formerly of Swiss Super League outfit FC Zurich, and Georginio Rutter, previously of German side TSG Hoffenheim were a reflection of good European scouting on United's behalf.

Other signings such as Ethan Ampadu, Joe Rodon, Joel Piroe, Jayden Bogle and Manor Solomon (loan) have been acquired from fellow British clubs, drawing on transfer chiefs' contact books within the English game to help broker deals.

Leeds are likely to follow a similar strategy this summer, employing a hybrid approach as opposed to finding themselves solely wedded to the domestic or wider European market.

....
Premier League quality will not come cheap which is perhaps why Leicester, Southampton and Ipswich may take the view they overpaid for sub-standard additions, a position shared by play-off winning Saints head coach Russell Martin. That could be where European scouting, the kind which unearthed Tanaka, comes in handy, allowing Leeds to sign players for certain positions at a lower price point than their equivalent, already established within the English game.

...

Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton summer 2024 signings breakdown - league of previous club:

17: Premier League - (incl. five loans)

9: EFL Championship

2: Italian Serie A - (incl. one loan)

2: Portuguese Primeira Liga

1: Dutch Eredivisie

1: Spanish LaLiga

1: Belgian Pro League

1: EFL League One

34: Total

(4: Loans made permanent)

...

Of the 34 first-team signings made by newly-promoted clubs last summer, half were Premier League players and over three-quarters were playing domestically during 2023/24. The limited few considered good signings include Mateus Fernandes, who left Sporting Clube de Portugal for Southampton and is likely to move on again this summer and Ipswich's Liam Delap who finds himself in a similar boat to the aforementioned Brazilian but had been playing in the Championship prior to this year's Premier League breakthrough.

Hardly any of the Premier League players who signed for the now-relegated trio last summer, if any at all, worked out, which could serve as a something of a cautionary tale for the Whites this summer. That is, if divisional rivals are making players available at a palatable price, there's probably a good reason for it.

However, Premier League intensity has been found to supersede that of other top European leagues, which means whilst there is value to be had on the continent, a Euro-centric reliance on recruitment may be the other side of the coin and lean too far one way. Leeds supporters know all too well the dangers of supplementing a lower-half-of-the-table squad with players lacking Premier League experience signed exclusively from abroad.

During 2022/23, Leeds made no first-team additions from fellow English clubs and come the end of the season paid the price. The Whites signed off on 10 senior arrivals over the course of two transfer windows that year and until recently found themselves encumbered with high-salary, low-impact players, some of whom were playing elsewhere on loan due to relegation escape clauses.

...
Leeds United 2022/23 signings breakdown - league of previous club:

3: German Bundesliga

3: Austrian Bundesliga

1: Dutch Eredivisie

1: Swiss Super League

1: Spanish LaLiga

1: Italian Serie A

So, what will Leeds do this summer?

In summary, the club's strategy this summer is perhaps best informed by the Whites' own recent market experience and a case study of last season's promoted sides who were all but relegated with months of the season to spare. Lessons will hopefully have been learned from Leeds' last Premier League summer window but only time will tell if 'Strategy 2025' pays dividends or ultimately falls short like so many promoted teams before them.

En ting er sikkert, det er lett å feile! Og det er kostbart..

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-transfers-5126892

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Tell me - Tell me before I go
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Hawley

Quote from: Asbjørn on May 13, 2025, 19:07:28Vi har allerede hørt det. Leeds satser på erfarenhet og fysikk i kommende vindu. Vi brente oss, spesielt foran nedrykkssesongen. Vi hentet gode spillere, men som eksempel Rutter slo ikke til før vi allerede hadde forlatt PL.

YEP har sett på hva nedrykkstrioen gjorde feil ved opprykket.

Newly promoted clubs spent £127 million on 12 signings from existing Premier League clubs last summer.

Kortversjonen er at dette var bortkastede penger.

Additions included the likes of Oliver Skipp, who joined Leicester City permanently from Tottenham Hotspur in a £20 million transfer and Southampton goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale, who swapped Arsenal for St. Mary's Stadium in an initial £18 million deal; few can be described as success stories.

Odsonne Edouard and Maxwel Cornet joined Leicester and Southampton on loan, respectively. The former has played just 142 minutes of league football this year for the Foxes, failing to score, while Cornet's spell on the south coast was cut short in January after two outings for the Saints.

There were free transfer moves as well with Adam Lallana returning to Southampton and Bobby De Cordova-Reid signing for Leicester, but the bulk of the transfers concerned involved fees.

....
It is often suggested that a promoted team's best way of maintaining themselves in the top flight beyond their initial season back in the big time is to sign proven Premier League quality, players with knowledge of the league. On the face of it, this past season's evidence suggests business is slightly more nuanced than that.

While Leicester and Southampton added players from across Europe as well as the Premier League, Ipswich went down a more domestic route, signing several new faces from Championship clubs. It is likely to give the Tractor Boys an advantage in the second tier next season, with an immediate bounceback likely, but the Suffolk club have found themselves bested in the majority of fixtures this term.

....

Leeds' own transfer success stories in recent seasons have been varied in terms of their origin. The likes of Ao Tanaka, signed from Germany's second tier, Willy Gnonto, formerly of Swiss Super League outfit FC Zurich, and Georginio Rutter, previously of German side TSG Hoffenheim were a reflection of good European scouting on United's behalf.

Other signings such as Ethan Ampadu, Joe Rodon, Joel Piroe, Jayden Bogle and Manor Solomon (loan) have been acquired from fellow British clubs, drawing on transfer chiefs' contact books within the English game to help broker deals.

Leeds are likely to follow a similar strategy this summer, employing a hybrid approach as opposed to finding themselves solely wedded to the domestic or wider European market.

....
Premier League quality will not come cheap which is perhaps why Leicester, Southampton and Ipswich may take the view they overpaid for sub-standard additions, a position shared by play-off winning Saints head coach Russell Martin. That could be where European scouting, the kind which unearthed Tanaka, comes in handy, allowing Leeds to sign players for certain positions at a lower price point than their equivalent, already established within the English game.

...

Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton summer 2024 signings breakdown - league of previous club:

17: Premier League - (incl. five loans)

9: EFL Championship

2: Italian Serie A - (incl. one loan)

2: Portuguese Primeira Liga

1: Dutch Eredivisie

1: Spanish LaLiga

1: Belgian Pro League

1: EFL League One

34: Total

(4: Loans made permanent)

...

Of the 34 first-team signings made by newly-promoted clubs last summer, half were Premier League players and over three-quarters were playing domestically during 2023/24. The limited few considered good signings include Mateus Fernandes, who left Sporting Clube de Portugal for Southampton and is likely to move on again this summer and Ipswich's Liam Delap who finds himself in a similar boat to the aforementioned Brazilian but had been playing in the Championship prior to this year's Premier League breakthrough.

Hardly any of the Premier League players who signed for the now-relegated trio last summer, if any at all, worked out, which could serve as a something of a cautionary tale for the Whites this summer. That is, if divisional rivals are making players available at a palatable price, there's probably a good reason for it.

However, Premier League intensity has been found to supersede that of other top European leagues, which means whilst there is value to be had on the continent, a Euro-centric reliance on recruitment may be the other side of the coin and lean too far one way. Leeds supporters know all too well the dangers of supplementing a lower-half-of-the-table squad with players lacking Premier League experience signed exclusively from abroad.

During 2022/23, Leeds made no first-team additions from fellow English clubs and come the end of the season paid the price. The Whites signed off on 10 senior arrivals over the course of two transfer windows that year and until recently found themselves encumbered with high-salary, low-impact players, some of whom were playing elsewhere on loan due to relegation escape clauses.

...
Leeds United 2022/23 signings breakdown - league of previous club:

3: German Bundesliga

3: Austrian Bundesliga

1: Dutch Eredivisie

1: Swiss Super League

1: Spanish LaLiga

1: Italian Serie A

So, what will Leeds do this summer?

In summary, the club's strategy this summer is perhaps best informed by the Whites' own recent market experience and a case study of last season's promoted sides who were all but relegated with months of the season to spare. Lessons will hopefully have been learned from Leeds' last Premier League summer window but only time will tell if 'Strategy 2025' pays dividends or ultimately falls short like so many promoted teams before them.

En ting er sikkert, det er lett å feile! Og det er kostbart..

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-transfers-5126892



Interessant, men ingen fasit på hva som er lurt akkurat. Kvalitet koster er jeg redd
 

stian

Quote from: Hawley on May 13, 2025, 20:37:07
Quote from: Asbjørn on May 13, 2025, 19:07:28Vi har allerede hørt det. Leeds satser på erfarenhet og fysikk i kommende vindu. Vi brente oss, spesielt foran nedrykkssesongen. Vi hentet gode spillere, men som eksempel Rutter slo ikke til før vi allerede hadde forlatt PL.

YEP har sett på hva nedrykkstrioen gjorde feil ved opprykket.

Newly promoted clubs spent £127 million on 12 signings from existing Premier League clubs last summer.

Kortversjonen er at dette var bortkastede penger.

Additions included the likes of Oliver Skipp, who joined Leicester City permanently from Tottenham Hotspur in a £20 million transfer and Southampton goalkeeper Aaron Ramsdale, who swapped Arsenal for St. Mary's Stadium in an initial £18 million deal; few can be described as success stories.

Odsonne Edouard and Maxwel Cornet joined Leicester and Southampton on loan, respectively. The former has played just 142 minutes of league football this year for the Foxes, failing to score, while Cornet's spell on the south coast was cut short in January after two outings for the Saints.

There were free transfer moves as well with Adam Lallana returning to Southampton and Bobby De Cordova-Reid signing for Leicester, but the bulk of the transfers concerned involved fees.

....
It is often suggested that a promoted team's best way of maintaining themselves in the top flight beyond their initial season back in the big time is to sign proven Premier League quality, players with knowledge of the league. On the face of it, this past season's evidence suggests business is slightly more nuanced than that.

While Leicester and Southampton added players from across Europe as well as the Premier League, Ipswich went down a more domestic route, signing several new faces from Championship clubs. It is likely to give the Tractor Boys an advantage in the second tier next season, with an immediate bounceback likely, but the Suffolk club have found themselves bested in the majority of fixtures this term.

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Leeds' own transfer success stories in recent seasons have been varied in terms of their origin. The likes of Ao Tanaka, signed from Germany's second tier, Willy Gnonto, formerly of Swiss Super League outfit FC Zurich, and Georginio Rutter, previously of German side TSG Hoffenheim were a reflection of good European scouting on United's behalf.

Other signings such as Ethan Ampadu, Joe Rodon, Joel Piroe, Jayden Bogle and Manor Solomon (loan) have been acquired from fellow British clubs, drawing on transfer chiefs' contact books within the English game to help broker deals.

Leeds are likely to follow a similar strategy this summer, employing a hybrid approach as opposed to finding themselves solely wedded to the domestic or wider European market.

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Premier League quality will not come cheap which is perhaps why Leicester, Southampton and Ipswich may take the view they overpaid for sub-standard additions, a position shared by play-off winning Saints head coach Russell Martin. That could be where European scouting, the kind which unearthed Tanaka, comes in handy, allowing Leeds to sign players for certain positions at a lower price point than their equivalent, already established within the English game.

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Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton summer 2024 signings breakdown - league of previous club:

17: Premier League - (incl. five loans)

9: EFL Championship

2: Italian Serie A - (incl. one loan)

2: Portuguese Primeira Liga

1: Dutch Eredivisie

1: Spanish LaLiga

1: Belgian Pro League

1: EFL League One

34: Total

(4: Loans made permanent)

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Of the 34 first-team signings made by newly-promoted clubs last summer, half were Premier League players and over three-quarters were playing domestically during 2023/24. The limited few considered good signings include Mateus Fernandes, who left Sporting Clube de Portugal for Southampton and is likely to move on again this summer and Ipswich's Liam Delap who finds himself in a similar boat to the aforementioned Brazilian but had been playing in the Championship prior to this year's Premier League breakthrough.

Hardly any of the Premier League players who signed for the now-relegated trio last summer, if any at all, worked out, which could serve as a something of a cautionary tale for the Whites this summer. That is, if divisional rivals are making players available at a palatable price, there's probably a good reason for it.

However, Premier League intensity has been found to supersede that of other top European leagues, which means whilst there is value to be had on the continent, a Euro-centric reliance on recruitment may be the other side of the coin and lean too far one way. Leeds supporters know all too well the dangers of supplementing a lower-half-of-the-table squad with players lacking Premier League experience signed exclusively from abroad.

During 2022/23, Leeds made no first-team additions from fellow English clubs and come the end of the season paid the price. The Whites signed off on 10 senior arrivals over the course of two transfer windows that year and until recently found themselves encumbered with high-salary, low-impact players, some of whom were playing elsewhere on loan due to relegation escape clauses.

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Leeds United 2022/23 signings breakdown - league of previous club:

3: German Bundesliga

3: Austrian Bundesliga

1: Dutch Eredivisie

1: Swiss Super League

1: Spanish LaLiga

1: Italian Serie A

So, what will Leeds do this summer?

In summary, the club's strategy this summer is perhaps best informed by the Whites' own recent market experience and a case study of last season's promoted sides who were all but relegated with months of the season to spare. Lessons will hopefully have been learned from Leeds' last Premier League summer window but only time will tell if 'Strategy 2025' pays dividends or ultimately falls short like so many promoted teams before them.

En ting er sikkert, det er lett å feile! Og det er kostbart..

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-transfers-5126892



Interessant, men ingen fasit på hva som er lurt akkurat. Kvalitet koster er jeg redd

Men konklusjonen fra gjennomgangen viser at ikke alt som koster er kvalitet.

Jeg er litt optimistisk med tanke på rekrutteringene for sommeren. I det siste har det vært gjort noen superbe signeringer hvor vi har fått veldig mye for lite. I farten kommer jeg heller ikke på en eneste spiller signert i Farkes periode som har floppet totalt. Det tilsier at noen gjør noe veldig riktig med tanke på scouting. PL er en annen liga og vi må lete etter litt andre typer spillere, men jeg ser ikke noen grunn til at scoutingen skal falle totalt gjennom av den grunn.

GeirO

Hadde vært så moro å ikke kjøpt en ny spiller (bortsett fra Solomon og Rothwell), og bygd videre på kollektivet med godt samhold, ser det ut til. Alle de yngste blir 10 % bedre og Bamford skadefri en hel sesong. Bruke minimalt med penger og droppe alle feilaktige storkjøpene.

Men ingen tør slike eksperimenter....
 
MOT

RoarG

Liverpools irske reservekeeper Caoimhin Kelleher til Leeds? I følge en Liverpool-kollega er han verdens beste reservekeeper. Kelleher ønsker fast spilletid uke inn og uke ut, dersom han skal beholde landslagsplassen for Irland. Liverpool er interessert i å selge, men Leeds møter konkurranse fra flere PL-klubber om Kelleher.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/caoimhin-kelleher-leeds-united-transfer-31626458
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

Fantasyland

Quote from: GeirO on Today at 00:10:02Hadde vært så moro å ikke kjøpt en ny spiller (bortsett fra Solomon og Rothwell), og bygd videre på kollektivet med godt samhold, ser det ut til. Alle de yngste blir 10 % bedre og Bamford skadefri en hel sesong. Bruke minimalt med penger og droppe alle feilaktige storkjøpene.

Men ingen tør slike eksperimenter....
 

Eksperimentere seg direkte ned i Championship igjen er ingen spesielt godt plan

auren

Quote from: RoarG on Today at 09:06:16Liverpools irske reservekeeper Caoimhin Kelleher til Leeds? I følge en Liverpool-kollega er han verdens beste reservekeeper. Kelleher ønsker fast spilletid uke inn og uke ut, dersom han skal beholde landslagsplassen for Irland. Liverpool er interessert i å selge, men Leeds møter konkurranse fra flere PL-klubber om Kelleher.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/caoimhin-kelleher-leeds-united-transfer-31626458

30-40 millioner pund er alt for mye penger å bruke på en keeper. Da kan vi sikkert sikre oss Trafford fra Burnley for halvparten av prisen. Tror dog ingen av de keeperne er å se i Leeds august 2025. Tipper vi henter en relativt ukjent utlending fra den tyske ligaen eller noe.

auren
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