Howard W./Gordon Strachan....

[Cherry]

Hver manager har sin egen stil, og ikke minst egne meninger om hvem som laget skal bygges rundt - det er derfor headingen til dette innlegget er som det er.
Howard Wilkinson er ikke , og var heller ikke verdens mest "våkne" person - men han hadde en plan, og sto for den. Han fikk også litt tid til og bygge, og litt penger til og bygge med.

Tiden er nå nesten den samme som når HW tok over skuta vår på slutten av 80`tallet, forskjellen er en divisjon lavere - men rammene ganske identiske faktisk!  Er veldig usikker på om topplokket til Wise er klar for en langsiktig plan, i det hele tatt om han duger, men har vi noe valg?  Nope.
Han har i disse dager samtaler med spillerne i troppen pt, og etter dette skjer det som må skje. Lønninger blir ett ømt tema.
Spillerne bør helt klart på prestasjonrettede kontrakter- etter antall spilte kamper etc.  League One trenger fighters, og endel rutine - en fin blanding. MÃ... han finne blandingen....

HW gjorde det!! Vi trenger en opptur neste sesong!

[Runar]

Howard sendte oss og opp og vi vant serien...men med stor hjelp av MYE penger på den tiden...Det er VELDIG ulikt det WIse skal gjøre no...

HOW bygget ikke noe langsiktig Leeds lag han heller derfor gikk de så det gikk i de siste sesongene til HW

[Sheridan]

Tviler ikke ett sekund på at Wilko kunne vært mannen som holdt oss flytende i CCC denne sesongen. Mannen var en mester til å få max ut av spillere med begrenset talent. Han gjorde en enorm jobb i Leeds United, selv om også han mistet kursen etterhvert. Vi hadde fått en SUPER-FIT squad som langt på vei hadde løpt motstanderen i senk. Nytt styre på Elland Road - en MOTIVERT Howard Wilkinson tar leder-rollen. Høres ikke så dumt ut spør du meg. Gudene veit hva mannen, som kun (glem det ei!) har Revie over seg som manager of all time i Leeds, hadde tenkt såfremt ett sådan tilbud engang i fremtiden kom på bordet. Hadde rett og slett vært jævlig gøy å sett hva mannen som stod for moral og jerndisiplin kunne utført i Leeds United Football Club anno 2007.

[wilko92]

Hva med Howard og George Graham i tospann. Superfysikk og tett bakover!

[HåvardK]

quote:Originally posted by billythedog

Hva med Howard og George Graham i tospann. Superfysikk og tett bakover!

SSSnnnnnhhhh............... Oopps, hva var det du sa igjen? Jeg sovnet visst...[]

[Runar]

Skulle vi liksom hente inn Mick Hennigan (eller hva assisenten til Wilko het) Jeg er akkurat litt for ung til å huske opprykket og seriemester skapet - så personlig så har jeg ingen sterke følelser for han...¨

Etter mitt skjønn så var det HELT riktig at han fikk fyken når han gjorde og hans type management kan man ikke ha lengre

[Papi]

Det aller viktigaste nå er å få "ro" rundt eigarskapet/trenarspm til klubben.

Selv ynskjer eg at nye ledere både på leiarsiden og trenarsiden, og dette må gjerast snarast mogelig.
Ingen er tjent med at Wise/Poyet starter planlegginga fram mot neste sesong nå, og blir tuppa på ræva og hode ut i midten av Juli. (bortkasta penger og resursser for klubben)


I`d rather walk alone

[wilko92]

quote:Originally posted by HåvardK

quote:Originally posted by billythedog

Hva med Howard og George Graham i tospann. Superfysikk og tett bakover!

SSSnnnnnhhhh............... Oopps, hva var det du sa igjen? Jeg sovnet visst...[]

Spesielt livatt hadde det nok ikke blitt nei

[Asbjørn]

 Mer herlig følelsen av å vinne 2.div-tittelen for Strach enn å vinne seriegullet to år senere - mye takket være Elland Road-publikummet. For så vidt ikke rart, han var jo bare vant til Old Trafford da han ankom oss.

[Jon R]

Mer herlig følelsen av å vinne 2.div-tittelen for Strach enn å vinne seriegullet to år senere - mye takket være Elland Road-publikummet. For så vidt ikke rart, han var jo bare vant til Old Trafford da han ankom oss.

Apropos funfact Vinne fikk bare 3 gule under tiden i Leeds. Husker forsiden på et Shoot på den tiden. Et bilde av Vinnie Jones i Leedstrøya og undertittelen " Is Vinnie going soft?" 

[Asbjørn]

Emnet Legende: Gordon Strachan finnes ikke på forumet

Anyways, han var på besøk på Thorp Arch tidligere i sesongen. Og forteller om det her.

Artig også at Bielsa vrir et spørsmål om George Best til heller å handle om wee Gordon

When Gordon Strachan met Marcelo Bielsa - Leeds United legend on Thorp Arch encounter and cliche-busting Whites
Marcelo Bielsa's quip to a national newspaper writer in December showed just how keenly aware he was of Gordon Strachan's Leeds United status.

'By Graham Smyth  Saturday, 22nd May 2021, 12:14 pm


Ahead of the visit to Old Trafford, Bielsa was asked about the career of Manchester United hero George Best but replied: "I thought you were going to ask me about a Leeds United player, a more symbolic player for Leeds like Gordan Strachan."

The Scot, Bielsa said, was just the player for such a fixture.

So when the former Whites captain paid a visit to Thorp Arch, it is no surprise Bielsa laid on a welcome fit for a legend and helped strengthen a bond that 245 appearances, 45 goals and Second Division and First Division titles with Leeds United had forged.


Strachan simply wanted a chat and some insight into the coaching at his former club, but came away with a revelation that explained why Bielsa's Leeds have followed up a Championship title with a fine first season in the Premier League.

"We went up there just for a chat, I wanted to speak to everyone at the training ground and spoke to Marcelo before training," Strachan told the YEP.

"He was great. I sat in on the team meeting, which I didn't expect, he made me feel very welcome and then he said would you like to watch training."


Strachan politely declined so that Bielsa, who had given up his time for a conversation, could get on with his work. But the head coach wouldn't take no for an answer.

"I said 'you're a bit late' and he said 'no, no the other coaches do the warm-up and then I go in there when the real stuff starts'.

"And when he does go in there, everything is 100 per cent.

"Every one of us works at closing down to a certain extent, movement and shape but this is all done at 100 per cent.

"The players have all got in their mind before they go out how they've got to work, where they've got to go, the yard where they've got to close down and within that intensity there's somehow a fitness level built up that scares other teams."

Strachan was part of a Leeds team for whom supreme fitness was non-negotiable under Howard Wilkinson and he took it into his own coaching career. The conditioning of the current Whites side unnerves opposition teams, he believes.

"It's something I've said for 20 years, my belief since I was at Leeds, that the F***er you are you can actually scare teams, you win that battle right away," he said.

"I think Liverpool had it when they won the league, teams went 'oh no I'd rather not be here today'. I think that happens with Leeds.

"Other teams look at Leeds and know they'll be pushed to their physical limit at all times. Normally in a game of football you can get a breather somewhere along the line but you don't get a breather with Leeds.

"When they get the ball there's a freedom to play but there's a willingness to run without it and get back behind it, so fitness is a huge thing."

Twenty-six years after his departure, Strachan rarely misses a Leeds game, relishing as much as any fan the entertainment value they provide. At times he removes his coaching hat to scratch his head.

"Most football fans are going 'right when's Leeds on, I'm going to watch them'," he said.

"I've no idea what the score's going to be but let's watch it because there's always something going on. You need to check your TV, make sure it's not running fast because the game is flying along.

"It's great for the fans and great for coaches to have a look and try and dissect. You scratch your head and go 'right okay, I've never thought about that myself' or 'I didn't think that would work but it does'.

"The man-marking at times this year, wow, how do you get away with that when you've got your entire back-four playing in the left-back area? You think 'I don't think I could be brave enough to do it'. I'd find it very hard to believe the players would believe what I'd be doing was going to work.

"It's great viewing, a great couple of hours out of your day."

As Leeds have gone about the business of entertaining the Premier League audience, they've picked up enough results to ease well clear of the relegation fight.

Strachan admits he didn't see them performing as they have but fully expected them to leave a lasting impression.

"Pre-season I talked about teams that come and go in the Premier League and you don't really notice they've been there, they don't leave a mark, there's teams in the league just now who don't leave a mark but Leeds leave something.

"Did I expect them to play so well and get so many results, especially against the top teams? Maybe not, but I did say Leeds were going to add to the spectacle.

"The Premier League has a lot to be thankful to Leeds United's players, staff and Marcelo for, in particular for producing football that's not guaranteed them a win but guaranteed entertainment."

The players who have caught his eye are too numerous to mention, he says, because the level of performance across Bielsa's squad has been consistently high.

When pressed, it's the stalwarts of the promotion side who earn his seal of approval.

"There's about 13, 14 players who get picked and you wouldn't say any one has been below what you expected from them," he said.

"But there's big plusses with [Patrick] Bamford, I think he's been absolutely terrific. To lead the line, do so much work and do so much work when the other team's got the ball and still have the ability to score goals, run the width of the 18 yard box and take knocks, I like him.

"I've always liked [Stuart] Dallas, [Luke] Ayling and [Kalvin] Phillips. That's putting them just above players who are playing exceptionally well all the time."

Watching on as the men who wear the white shirt he not only graced, but became fiercely attached to, do it justice once again in the English top tier, Strachan can hardly hide his pride. For him, everyone carrying responsibility for the club's fortunes and redefining what the words Leeds United Football Club mean should feel exactly the same.

"I still have my Leeds United friends and meeting Marcelo, the coaching staff and players was another added link to the club again for me," he said.

"There's a pride. Over the years it has always been 'dirty Leeds' and we laughed it off and quite enjoyed it as Leeds fans for a number of years, but I think we're quite enjoying people watching the club and enjoying the football so much.

"It's breaking down old cliches. Being a successful team is one thing, but breaking down cliches is an incredible thing to do. It looks like Leeds are everyone's second team. Everyone involved must be so proud. They must be so proud."

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/when-gordon-strachan-met-marcelo-bielsa-leeds-united-legend-on-thorp-arch-encounter-and-cliche-busting-whites-3246205

[Asbjørn]

Strach om Vinnie/Chris Kamara:

https://x.com/ftblsgreatest/status/1785573369326326060