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« Svar #2880 på: September 13, 2012, 12:05:30 »
Gleder meg til vi kan opprette tråden" Takeover bekreftet!"  :)
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« Svar #2881 på: September 13, 2012, 12:39:54 »
Gleder meg til vi kan opprette tråden" Takeover bekreftet!"  :)

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« Svar #2882 på: September 13, 2012, 12:51:18 »


Boozie var nettopp innom waccoe og så dette:

I just logged in to share some news and saw pogs post. I think this proves Ken has lost the plot because I was told today that negotiations have been positive and taken a massive step in the right direction. This comes from someone close to the deal and I'm trying to get some more info from another source.

This clearly contradicts what Bates has said on the call but I believe it is now all a show from him.

Godt vi har henne å holde mot i oss :)

Nå har hun omsider fått 'another source' i tale: :)

QUOTE (boozie @ Sep 13 2012, 09:23 AM)
My other contacts view on what I was told yesterday “ I wouldn’t use the word massive but certainly movement in the right direction, will keep you posted”
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« Svar #2883 på: September 13, 2012, 12:55:09 »
Leeds United Supporters Trust
Takeover Update - Thursday 13/09/12

It has been suggested to us that the deal has moved closer to completion over night. The indemnity clause issue may be resolved by members of the buyers consortium offering to indemnify others against any losses incurred as a result of Mr Bates refusal to sign the indeminity. We have yet to confirm this with both of our contacts however if true it demonstrates the desire of the buyers to purchase Leeds United. More to come as we get it.

Spennende dette her!

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« Svar #2884 på: September 13, 2012, 13:00:21 »
Er ikke så ofte LUFC TRUST kommer med klare indikasjoner som dette...
Kan dette være begynnelsen på avslutningen? Håper det....
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« Svar #2885 på: September 13, 2012, 13:03:31 »
Leeds United Supporters Trust
Takeover Update - Thursday 13/09/12

It has been suggested to us that the deal has moved closer to completion over night. The indemnity clause issue may be resolved by members of the buyers consortium offering to indemnify others against any losses incurred as a result of Mr Bates refusal to sign the indeminity. We have yet to confirm this with both of our contacts however if true it demonstrates the desire of the buyers to purchase Leeds United. More to come as we get it.


Snakk om at noen i konsortiumet er ivrige på å kjøpe oss  ;D
De er tyeligvis villige å ta det evt tapet på vegne av hele gruppen...
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« Svar #2886 på: September 13, 2012, 13:06:41 »
...og atter er altså alt i Bates' hender igjen (so don't count on it).

Også Cooper er av den oppfatning:

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QUOTE (Janey @ Sep 13 2012, 12:00 PM)
Potentially brilliant news. I wonder if this happens will Ken find another obstacle?


thereby hangs the quandry? we simply dont know yet.
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« Svar #2887 på: September 13, 2012, 13:09:08 »
Boozie:

QUOTE (Marching. On. Together. @ Sep 13 2012, 11:57 AM)

I'm a little confused, does that mean that one or more of the buyers are willing to take the financial responibilty of any unforseen liabilities as opposed to Bates or the other members of the consortium?



Correct, it would appear that some members of the group are willing to give the indemnity (that Bates wouldn't) to the other members. I am still trying to confirm this latest development is the "movement in the right direction" that my contact said earlier.
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« Svar #2888 på: September 13, 2012, 13:28:29 »
Du snakker..........skal dette aldri ta slutt, nye signaler på at noe muligens kanskje så frem i fall er i ferd med å skje............ ???
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« Svar #2889 på: September 13, 2012, 13:39:52 »
Nå har jeg ikke fulgt med noe særlig på TO siden tirsdagen før "dommedags" torsdagen.
er vel uke halvannen siden, å her sitter vi. Fortsatt vet vi like lite, å vært "posetive" rykte blir spredd å vridd på mer å mer fra "stammen"
artig kan det jo være, hehe
Men for egen del lar jeg hele TO ligge til jeg plutselig ser tråden "Takeover bekreftet" å kan åpne champagnen!
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« Svar #2890 på: September 13, 2012, 14:45:04 »
Nå er d nærme nå, i flg Rumours............ man har kommet til "enighet" ift indemnity clause,
ved at en 3.part tar på seg disse evt kostnadene  som måtte ligge i skapet!
Fritt oversatt  ;)

Sjekk Leeds Rumours, sjeldent d har vært SÃ…Ã…Ã… positive signaler som i dag!
 

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« Svar #2891 på: September 13, 2012, 14:55:18 »
Nå er d nærme nå, i flg Rumours............ man har kommet til "enighet" ift indemnity clause,
ved at en 3.part tar på seg disse evt kostnadene  som måtte ligge i skapet!
Fritt oversatt  ;)

Sjekk Leeds Rumours, sjeldent d har vært SÃ…Ã…Ã… positive signaler som i dag!
Bare et tidsspørsmål før det kommer negative nyheter igjen. Evil Santa er helt utilregnelig >:(

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« Svar #2892 på: September 13, 2012, 15:03:07 »
Nå er d nærme nå, i flg Rumours............ man har kommet til "enighet" ift indemnity clause,
ved at en 3.part tar på seg disse evt kostnadene  som måtte ligge i skapet!
Fritt oversatt  ;)

Sjekk Leeds Rumours, sjeldent d har vært SÃ…Ã…Ã… positive signaler som i dag!

Høres jo fornuftig ut og Bates vinner IGJEN??
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« Svar #2893 på: September 13, 2012, 15:12:08 »
Lengden på det enkelte innlegget påvirker ikke antall sider i tråden, da det uansett vises 30 innlegg pr. side.
Så det har ingenting å si om man tar med HELE sitatet fra den du ordveksler med, eller om du bare skriver et kort "OK" - det blir bare mer irriterende å scrolle gjennom siden, og mer data som lastes ned :)
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« Svar #2894 på: September 13, 2012, 15:59:32 »
Er ikke så ofte LUFC TRUST kommer med klare indikasjoner som dette...
Kan dette være begynnelsen på avslutningen? Håper det....
Ikke slutten ihvertfall, neppe begynnelsen på slutten men kanskje slutten på begynnelsen.....

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« Svar #2895 på: September 13, 2012, 23:11:14 »
Takeoveren er inne i avsluttende fase...kjenner det på heile kroppen...trur 14.september 2012 blir en merkedag for klubben...MOT...
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« Svar #2896 på: September 13, 2012, 23:31:32 »
From Phil Hay on Twitter:

Phil Hay @PhilHayYEP
Brief takeover update: contact of mine says tonight that "significant progress" on #lufc takeover expected next week.

Phil Hay @PhilHayYEP
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Contact optimistic but won't speculate that takeover might complete next week. Says situation "is too unpredictable to assume that." #lufc
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« Svar #2897 på: September 13, 2012, 23:33:46 »
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« Svar #2898 på: September 14, 2012, 09:59:03 »
Boozie av i formiddag: :)

I am hearing lots of good noises from my contacts. Everything keeps moving in the right direction, nothing further planned today/this weekend so looking at next week for further updates/developments.

What is clear from all contacts is that what Bates is telling people on phone a fan or leaking through Duncan Castles is not what he is telling his lawyers/people involved in the deal.
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« Svar #2899 på: September 14, 2012, 10:18:17 »
Boozie av i formiddag: :)

I am hearing lots of good noises from my contacts. Everything keeps moving in the right direction, nothing further planned today/this weekend so looking at next week for further updates/developments.

What is clear from all contacts is that what Bates is telling people on phone a fan or leaking through Duncan Castles is not what he is telling his lawyers/people involved in the deal.

??? Spill the beans som det heter... Hva er positivt?

Men ja dette går veien... Disse kjøperne mener alvor ellers hadde de snudd for lenge siden. Farvel gnom.

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« Svar #2900 på: September 14, 2012, 13:32:14 »


Den klokka er like pålitelig som gubben sjøl.  ;D
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« Svar #2901 på: September 14, 2012, 13:52:33 »
next week... next week.... next week osv.... hakk i plata >:( >:(
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« Svar #2902 på: September 14, 2012, 15:16:27 »
next week... next week.... next week osv.... hakk i plata >:( >:(

Det postive er jo da at det ein gang vil stemme ;)
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« Svar #2903 på: September 14, 2012, 15:46:50 »
Tar også dette med en STOR klype salt. Bates er sprøyte gal og det er det eneste jeg forholder meg til foreløpig.
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« Svar #2904 på: September 14, 2012, 16:05:53 »
next week... next week.... next week osv.... hakk i plata >:( >:(

Det postive er jo da at det ein gang vil stemme ;)

Ja, og selv klokker som har stoppet, viser riktig tid to ganger i døgnet.  :-\
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« Svar #2905 på: September 14, 2012, 16:14:28 »
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« Svar #2906 på: September 14, 2012, 16:32:26 »
 Boozie har vi jo blitt 'kjent' med de siste ukene.
Hun har visst kontakter 'på begge sider' :)

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QUOTE (mcinner @ Sep 14 2012, 12:53 PM)

Despite things moving in apparently the right direction, the content of Ken's calls to board members (at least those that appear kosher) seem to indicate he's going nowhere fast.

My worry about the sources that are coming forth from Big/Boozie etc is that while they are well meaning and obv many thanks to the guys for sharing them, they are all seemingly (correct me if I wrong) from the buyers side.

And it seems that Ken vs Buyers seem to have very differing opinions about how well this is going.

No need to worry, I have a source on the sellers side too. Funny, he think all the leaks are from the buyers, he needs to look a little closer at his inner circle.

Og Gary Cooper klarer ikke helt å holde seg mht hvem hun er :)

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QUOTE (The Crusher @ Sep 14 2012, 02:19 PM)

Boozie=M in the new Bond movies

  :Dyou have no idea how close that is   ;D
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« Svar #2907 på: September 14, 2012, 19:16:01 »
Noen av dagens avklaringer fra andre enn våre Boozie og BIG:

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For those asking about the part-Bahraini consortium's failure to meet payment terms for a takeover of Leeds. #LUFC

Am told that there has been no change to the position reported here at the end of August. A price was agreed for Ken Bates' majority shareholding in Leeds United in July, only for the consortium to fail to complete the transaction. The Leeds chairman is understood to have been unhappy with an attempt to redirect funds the group had used to secure a period of exclusivity into Neil Warnock's transfer budget.

Essentially, the money paid by the consortium was perceived as a deposit on the full purchase price for the club. They then attempted to dictate to the seller how that deposit should be used before they had paid for full control of Leeds. This led to doubts over the bidders' ability to fully fund the takeover, and the club itself after the takeover.

Sources close to the consortium say there are no issues with their finances and that the failure to complete the deal was simply due to Bates' refusal to sign �€œstandard�€� indemnity documents. (These documents would have enabled the buyers to claw back some of the purchase price if additional legal or financial liabilities surfaced post-takeover.)

Warnock was allowed to discuss transfer plans with the consortium's brokers before the proposed July handover date. Problems have followed.

In reading that, Bates is unhappy because the potential owners asked for the 4 million they invested to be given to Warnock to use for player purchases!? Bates didn't like the fact they tried to dictate where the funds go, as no doubt he wanted to take it straight out

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QUOTE (Beck @ Sep 14 2012, 01:08 PM)

From Duncan Bates Stooge Castles


An expert on football takeovers describes Leeds United as "the last real franchise left to buy"... #LUFC

Such a status is one that prospective buyers will seek to take advantage of as supporters understandably desperate for Leeds' return to the top stage of English and European football push for change. It is also one that provides no guarantee of improvement �€“ look at where Liverpool find themselves after two takeovers initially welcomed by the majority of their support.

How many Leeds United supporters know who would actually end up owning their club if the much-publicised GFH Capital-led bid succeeds? How many Leeds supporters know how much new money would actually be invested in the playing squad if the bid succeeds? How many Leeds supporters know how much profit stands to be made by the various parties involved in the takeover process?

There has been much discussion that the only point preventing GFH Capital from completing the takeover is Ken Bates' refusal to sign a 'standard' indemnity agreement. The same takeover specialist says there is no such thing as a standard indemnity agreement. Yes, buyers will often try to include them in deal, but they are seen within the industry as negotiating points, and takeovers regularly go through without them being asked for, or granted. It is why prospective buyers do due diligence. And that was completed on Leeds months ago. 2 minutes ago


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The thing is, it would matter all that much if they had no more money than Bates. Ken isn't piling loads of his own personal wealth into the club, and if anything we're seeing significant sums seemingly evaporate though his associated side projects.

Nice as it would be, a new owner wouldn't have to throw millions at it to improve things for Leeds United, just change strategy. Shut down the loss making enterprises that were supposed to help the business make money on more than just match days. If they are making a loss, and being subsidised by the football generated income, then get shot of them. (Assuming they really ARE making a loss, and not being used as accounting tricks to reduce taxable profits and conceal payments out to sources unknown).

Improve the relationship with the fans. Stop alienating your customer base, treat them with respect, and of course, be someone other than Ken Bates, and the numbers will return, improved attendances = more merchandise, more programmes, more beer and pies sold and so improved revenue and more profits.

And then crucially, re-invest that profit BACK INTO THE FOOTBALL, a club that already turns over �30M a year, and would see that rise once freed of Ken Bates control should be able to compete with ANY team in this division, even those buoyed by parachute payments. OK, perhaps not overnight, maybe it won't happen this season, but we are in our third season at this level, and that means we'd have had approaching �100M in income by the end of this season over 3 years. That ought to be sufficient for prudent, sensible, strategic management to build a promotion winning team.... (and still take a healthy return out of the club - investment deserves to be rewarded) If it hasn't, the reason can only be Ken Bates. Time for a change.
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« Svar #2908 på: September 16, 2012, 15:29:43 »
...det går vel an 'å forstå' Bates' stance ut ifra denne (følgende) tankegangen.
Det er altså ført i pennen av Duncan Castles, som visstnok blir foret av Gwyn Williams, som igjen er Bates' ører på treningsfeltet.

Castles is a journalist. Like any good journalist, he reports what facts he can find and attempts to add context or balance. This statement from him below appears to derive from both camps, which is what he should be doing: keeping us informed, presenting both sides. Bates's reign appears to have nowhere left to go but given the previous two regimes (Yorkshire consortium - got us relegated and sold the ground/TA; Ridsdale - financial meltdown) fans should be looking at anything that appears to resemble a light at the end of a decade-long tunnel and asking 'Is that an oncoming train?'


"Am told that there has been no change to the position reported here at the end of August. A price was agreed for Ken Bates' majority shareholding in Leeds United in July, only for the consortium to fail to complete the transaction. The Leeds chairman is understood to have been unhappy with an attempt to redirect funds the group had used to secure a period of exclusivity into Neil Warnock's transfer budget.

Essentially, the money paid by the consortium was perceived as a deposit on the full purchase price for the club. They then attempted to dictate to the seller how that deposit should be used before they had paid for full control of Leeds. This led to doubts over the bidders' ability to fully fund the takeover, and the club itself after the takeover.

Sources close to the consortium say there are no issues with their finances and that the failure to complete the deal was simply due to Bates' refusal to sign “standard” indemnity documents. (These documents would have enabled the buyers to claw back some of the purchase price if additional legal or financial liabilities surfaced post-takeover.)"


The buyers failed to accept Bates' ridiculous demands ref indemnity, so Bates alludes to the world that it could be that they don't have the cash. Despite the fact we know it's in an Escrow account. f**king wake up. You're making yourself look an apologist at best!


Bates ' versjon (inntil nylig) var altså at han lurte på om 'kjøperne' hadde så mange midler som de hevdet (og som Bates tidligere i sommer jo skreiv at de hadde), de hadde jo ikke betalt inn en avtalt sum innen en frist i sommer (ifølge den gamle enigheten). At dette skyldes en uenighet som gjerne gikk på 'indemnities' er så sin sak, men det var dette Bates nå 'tok de på'.

Men nå har altså kjøperne ordnet denne usikkerheten rundt 'indemnitien' seg imellom. Og da burde det atter være klappet og klart for et salg.Så da blir vel spørsmålet om Bates nå finner på nye 'argumenter' for ikke å la salget gå i orden ('uvillig selger').

Gjør han det, forsvinner nok kjøperne.

Så jeg vil anta at de første dagene av kommende uke vil fortelle oss hvordan dette går.































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« Svar #2909 på: September 16, 2012, 19:05:02 »
ENIG!!!

Nå må det rett og slett bli en slutt på denne elendigheten! Jeg kan ikke se at Bates har råd til å henger rundt noe særlig lenger! Fyren er drevet av penger og nå har han muligheten til en halv milliard uten så mye som ett pund å tape selv etter at hele dette lappverket av eiere kommer for en dag!

Hva de siste 28% av eierne gjør etter salget er vel heller utydelig akkurat nå, men kanskje de vil ha Ken Bates i styrerommet?

Kanskje det siste lille hinderet?

Hva med ER og TA? Merkelig hvis ingen av dem er med i summen på £52 millioner. Chelski ble vel solgt for £17 mill....


Det virker som om totalen av penger dette konsortiumet har til disposisjon er MYE!!!   :)
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