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« Svar #630 på: Oktober 13, 2018, 23:43:41 »
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Bielsa på Barnsley-Luton kampen

Okay? Hva har han der å gjøre, mon tro?
Litt scouting, kanskje?

Er nok det, men hvem? Har ikke Barnsley en forsvarer (McCarthy eller noe) som går for å være god?
Har sett disse navnene foreslått: Liam Lindsay (midtstopper), George Moncur (sentral midtbane) (begge Barnsley) og Pelly Ruddock-Mpanzu (defensiv midtbanespiller) (Luton).

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds-united-simply-must-poach-this-young-defender-from-their-yorkshire-neighbours-in-january-to-maintain-promotion-push/

http://the72.co.uk/117414/leeds-united-manager-bielsa-at-barnsley-vs-luton-two-potential-transfer-targets/

Takk for info! Det kan virke som Bielsa har en hånd på rattet når det gjelder spillerlogistikk, og at det jobbes aktivt med å forsterke stallen for den lange vårsesongen. Januarvinduet blir mer spennende enn på mange år.

Med Bielsa ved roret, blir januarvinduet kanskje mindre forutsigbart enn noen gang. Kanskje kommer det inn spillere som vi aldri hadde kunne tenkt oss,

Spennende.

For Pedraza, Mo Barrow, Roberts og DeBlock var alle åpenbare januarsigneringer?
 

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« Svar #631 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 00:00:15 »
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Bielsa på Barnsley-Luton kampen

Okay? Hva har han der å gjøre, mon tro?
Litt scouting, kanskje?

Er nok det, men hvem? Har ikke Barnsley en forsvarer (McCarthy eller noe) som går for å være god?
Har sett disse navnene foreslått: Liam Lindsay (midtstopper), George Moncur (sentral midtbane) (begge Barnsley) og Pelly Ruddock-Mpanzu (defensiv midtbanespiller) (Luton).

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds-united-simply-must-poach-this-young-defender-from-their-yorkshire-neighbours-in-january-to-maintain-promotion-push/

http://the72.co.uk/117414/leeds-united-manager-bielsa-at-barnsley-vs-luton-two-potential-transfer-targets/

Takk for info! Det kan virke som Bielsa har en hånd på rattet når det gjelder spillerlogistikk, og at det jobbes aktivt med å forsterke stallen for den lange vårsesongen. Januarvinduet blir mer spennende enn på mange år.

Med Bielsa ved roret, blir januarvinduet kanskje mindre forutsigbart enn noen gang. Kanskje kommer det inn spillere som vi aldri hadde kunne tenkt oss,

Spennende.

For Pedraza, Mo Barrow, Roberts og DeBlock var alle åpenbare januarsigneringer?

Nei, kanskje ikke (hvem er De Block forresten?  ;)), men Bielsa tar oss kanskje et steg videre i en verden av overraskelser, og da tenker jeg på at han skaper gode fotballspillere av forrige sesongs hakkekyllinger.
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« Svar #632 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 00:16:51 »
Hehe, Bielsa på Three Legs i kveld :D :D :D

...ser ikkje for meg Sir Alex der liksom. :o

Men Marcelo!
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« Svar #633 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 00:26:56 »
Hehe, Bielsa på Three Legs i kveld :D :D :D

...ser ikkje for meg Sir Alex der liksom. :o

Men Marcelo!



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« Svar #634 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 02:42:08 »
med god promille så synes jeg ikke det ligner marcelo en gang :o :o
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« Svar #635 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 07:41:20 »
med god promille så synes jeg ikke det ligner marcelo en gang :o :o

10-15 år yngre.....  ;)
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« Svar #636 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 17:04:16 »
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Bielsa på Barnsley-Luton kampen

Okay? Hva har han der å gjøre, mon tro?
Litt scouting, kanskje?

Er nok det, men hvem? Har ikke Barnsley en forsvarer (McCarthy eller noe) som går for å være god?
Har sett disse navnene foreslått: Liam Lindsay (midtstopper), George Moncur (sentral midtbane) (begge Barnsley) og Pelly Ruddock-Mpanzu (defensiv midtbanespiller) (Luton).

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds-united-simply-must-poach-this-young-defender-from-their-yorkshire-neighbours-in-january-to-maintain-promotion-push/

http://the72.co.uk/117414/leeds-united-manager-bielsa-at-barnsley-vs-luton-two-potential-transfer-targets/

Takk for info! Det kan virke som Bielsa har en hånd på rattet når det gjelder spillerlogistikk, og at det jobbes aktivt med å forsterke stallen for den lange vårsesongen. Januarvinduet blir mer spennende enn på mange år.

Med Bielsa ved roret, blir januarvinduet kanskje mindre forutsigbart enn noen gang. Kanskje kommer det inn spillere som vi aldri hadde kunne tenkt oss,

Spennende.

For Pedraza, Mo Barrow, Roberts og DeBlock var alle åpenbare januarsigneringer?

Nei, kanskje ikke (hvem er De Block forresten?  ;)), men Bielsa tar oss kanskje et steg videre i en verden av overraskelser, og da tenker jeg på at han skaper gode fotballspillere av forrige sesongs hakkekyllinger.

Det er i alle fall mange spillere, både i England, Spania og Sør-Amerika som nok kunne tenke seg å spille under Bielsa. Jeg tror Hallgeir har rett i at det kan dukke opp store positive overraskelser.

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« Svar #637 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 19:27:20 »
Hvorfor i alle dager skulle det komme noen i januar om Bielsa mener troppen vi har kan gjøre jobben? Vi får se.. Tviler ihvertfall sterkt på store forandringer. Vi får se.
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« Svar #638 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 19:44:49 »
Hvorfor i alle dager skulle det komme noen i januar om Bielsa mener troppen vi har kan gjøre jobben? Vi får se.. Tviler ihvertfall sterkt på store forandringer. Vi får se.
1 toppen 2 spillere inn tror jeg nok vi får se.
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

stian

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« Svar #639 på: Oktober 14, 2018, 22:22:45 »
Hvorfor i alle dager skulle det komme noen i januar om Bielsa mener troppen vi har kan gjøre jobben? Vi får se.. Tviler ihvertfall sterkt på store forandringer. Vi får se.
1 toppen 2 spillere inn tror jeg nok vi får se.

Tror det kommer inn en defensiv midt for å kunne avlaste Kalvin Phillips.

Det kan kanskje komme en eller to på lån, avhengig av skadesituasjonen i forsvaret og hvordan utviklingen til Bamford blir etter skaden.

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« Svar #640 på: Oktober 15, 2018, 15:24:39 »
Dario Ole
Sí, está loco. #Bielsa le donó 2.500.000 de dólares a



Newell’s Old Boys - English

Wow. "Yes, he is crazy" report @DiarioOle who say that Marcelo Bielsa donated $2.5million towards the cost of the new Hotel Jorge Griffa which is due to open next month at Bella Vista, the training ground of #Newells.

Bielsa and his family have been invited to the grand opening of the facility but cannot attend due to work commitments with #LUFC.

 :)


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« Svar #641 på: Oktober 16, 2018, 09:38:53 »
How Leeds United boss Marcelo Bielsa is returning the favour to Newell’s Old Boys ... where his coaching career began

Phil HayPublished: 17:15
 Leeds United head coach Marcelo Bielsa.
Leeds United head coach Marcelo Bielsa.
Updated: 17:25 Monday 15 October 2018

Newell’s Old Boys were Marcelo Bielsa’s first love and when the end of his coaching career comes, they will be his last love too. It was there that football consumed a man whose family preferred the trappings of jobs in politics, architecture or both.


The feeling at Newell’s is reciprocal and in 2009 the Argentinian club named their stadium after the coach who brought two league titles to Rosario in the early 1990s. Now Bielsa is returning the favour by using £3m of his personal money and the professional expertise of his sister to build a new facility at Newell’s training ground in Rosario’s Bella Vista district.


Built of carbon steel and five stories high, the project - albeit on a larger scale - is not unlike the changes which have come at Leeds United’s Thorp Arch complex since Bielsa walked in as head coach in June.


Newell’s are supplying their squad with modern sleeping quarters, new changing rooms, games rooms and a large video auditorium for the sort of analysis Bielsa thrives on. A huge garage has been created to house the team’s bus.

The structure is reported to have been funded to the tune of 2.5m US dollars by Bielsa but sources close to him say the final cost of his injection will come in at around 4m dollars or £3m, in excess of a year’s salary at Elland Road.


Newell’s plan to officially open the building - covering 2,000 square meters - on November 3, the club’s 115th anniversary, and have invited Bielsa and members of his family to be there. Leeds’ Championship game at Wigan Athletic the following afternoon will prevent Bielsa from flying home but he is planning to send a letter to Newell’s to mark the day.

Argentina's coach Marcelo Bielsa, when working as Argentina coach back in 2002. Picture: AP/Ricardo Mazalan.

The designs were drawn up by Bielsa’s sister Maria Eugenia, a qualified architect in one of the traditions of their family. His nephew Pedro has also been involved in the planning. Bielsa’s fingerprints will be all over the finished article but it has been named after one of his own inspirations, the former Argentina international and Newells’ legend Jorge Griffa.

Griffa, now 82, has an association with Newell’s going back much further than Bielsa’s, to the days when he was playing for the club as a highly-rated centre-back in the 1950s. These days he is better known for his scouting and his eye for emerging talent; the man credited with spotting Lionel Messi - another native of Rosario - and farming a long line of household names in Argentina.


Bielsa, after a short career as a player, took his first steps into management with Newell’s youth-team set-up. He and Griffa scoured both Rosario and the country at large for gifted youngsters, covering thousands of miles by car, and when Newell’s named Bielsa as their manager in 1990, Griffa acted as his assistant. The players they uncovered were pivotal in the championship-winning seasons which followed.

Bielsa was asked recently to name the individuals who had been most influential in his career. The 63-year-old said he had studied Louis van Gaal’s style of play closely but singled out Griffa as the man he was most indebted to.

I don’t want people to think I impose my point of view because that’s not the case. I make suggestions and then the club decides if it wants to invest in the infrastructures or not.

Marscelo Bielsa
“I started as a head coach 35 years ago,” Bielsa said. “I received a lot of influence from Jorge Griffa. He’s a master for me and I was with him at Newell’s Old Boys. I collaborated with him.”

Newell’s new training facility will be known as the Jorge Griffa Hotel, a dedication to a close confidant of Bielsa’s rather than Bielsa himself. The cost to Bielsa is said to be a “matter of love, not money”, a donation made with the intention of helping Newell’s modernise.


At the time of his appointment by Leeds, he encouraged and persuaded the club to do the same. Newell’s building is a permanent structure and has been made to last but to a lesser degree, Leeds are following suit.

Much of Thorp Arch is a building site at present, with alterations to the internal flow of the main barn well underway, but a new two-floor prefab structure has opened to the academy, providing office space upstairs and classrooms downstairs, and work is expected to finish by December at the latest.

Jorge Griffa, Marcelo Bielsa's biggesst influence, is deemed as the man responsible for spotting Argentina's Lionel Messi. Picture: . AP/Jon Super

Bielsa wanted his players to have rooms to sleep or rest in and areas to properly relax in, away from youth-team squads and staff. Unlike Newell’s, Leeds do not see the development as a long-term asset with plans afoot to move to a new training ground closer to Elland Road in the next two or three years but Bielsa is gradually setting a trend.

In both this job and his last, with Lille in France, his arrival was followed by major changes to the training grounds of the clubs who were employing him. A commitment of £3m is making sure Newell’s, the first side to take him on as a coach, can do the same.

Bielsa explained his penchant for building work last month, saying his ideas were in line with the way that “big clubs” think and operate.


“I never impose my point of view because we’re here for a short time,” he said. “All head coaches are in a club for a short time. I just told the club what kind of infrastructures the big clubs have. This club has extraordinary infrastructures. If you see the pitches, they are a miracle.

“I don’t want people to think I impose my point of view because that’s not the case. I make suggestions and then the club decides if it wants to invest in the infrastructures or not. When I arrived at the club the players were receiving a very good service. I proposed some small changes.

“The club is willing to give additional facilities to the players. When you are a professional footballer you need to rest and you need to be together with your team-mates. This belongs to the profession.

Manager Louis van Gaal is another said to have been an influence on Marcelo Bielsa. Picture: Mike Egerton/PA

“For regular citizens, when you rest, when you live together, when you have activities together, it’s not a necessity, it’s not an obligation. But in professional football it’s an obligation. The club has to take into account the fact that players spend a lot of time here.”
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« Svar #642 på: Oktober 16, 2018, 20:24:42 »
“There are richer clubs than Leeds” – Angus Kinnear on ‘intense’ times ahead at Elland Road

Sport Witness Team16th October 2018
Leeds United fans know only too well that a good start to the season means absolutely nothing if the end objective isn’t met. Indeed, it can serve to increase the pain come the Spring months of judgement.

Last season saw a great start followed, all too quickly, by the club’s title, then direct promotion, then play-off challenge falling away, and that added to years of previous disappointment means the hopes of fans are somewhat controlled.

But it’s hard to stay calm when Marcelo Bielsa, hero to several of the world’s top managers, rolls into town and gets his show going quickly. Things are looking good right now but, speaking to France Football, Angus Kinnear realises there are big challenges ahead.

Asked if Leeds are seeing the evolution of Bielsa’s impact, Kinnear said: “The rest of the Championship will be intense. There are richer clubs than Leeds, with stronger squads. Marcelo is the first to say that nothing is done. Moreover, he declined the trophy of ‘the coach of the month of August’. He wants to be judged in May 2019, not before.”

There’s every chance Bielsa will expect to be backed during the winter transfer window, and Leeds will be under pressure from their fans to do so.

The manager will have good arguments given he’s already upped the club’s profile, which will help commercial deals, and also helped sell season tickets, as Kinnear explained: “The Bielsa effect made it possible to sell four thousand additional tickets. Everyone wants to see us play. Our next eight games have been chosen for broadcast.”

Kinnear also explained that since arriving at Leeds he’s learned the size of the club, and that it needed a big character like Bielsa to take on the responsibility: “The Championship is an extremely difficult competition. We needed a creator with the strength and charisma to take on the full burden, and a man who would not be overwhelmed by the stakes.”

Twelve Championship games out of forty-six have been played, there’s a long road ahead.


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« Svar #643 på: Oktober 18, 2018, 21:48:37 »
Phil Hay

Asked Bielsa about the donation he's made to help fund a new training facility at Newell's Old boys. Says they're the "club who made me" and it's "me repaying a debt, not giving a donation." #lufc

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« Svar #644 på: Oktober 19, 2018, 18:30:37 »
Marcelo Bielsa claims Leeds stars must be up for fight for places at Elland Road - Mirror Online

Marcelo Bielsa claims his Leeds players must be tough enough to handle the competition for places at Elland Road.

Kemar Roofe is back from injury to challenge Wales striker Tyler Roberts for the right to spearhead Leeds’ attack at Blackburn on Saturday.


Roofe bagged four games in six Championship games to be named the August Player of the Month before Roberts scored three times deputising for him while he was out with his calf injury.

Marcelo Bielsa says he only wants mentally-strong players at Leeds(Image: PA Wire)
The Leeds coach says he is not bothered about disappointing one of them because he says his players must be prepared to fight every day.


“We have two possibilities for one same position,” said Bielsa. “They can play together also.

“Both can play as strikers or both can play, one as a No 9, another as a winger.

“When you have competition with two players for just one position it makes both players better.


“And if you have a player, who is becoming weaker because of the competition with someone else it means we didn’t choose the right player, because professional players are specialists in competition.


“They compete with opponents, they compete with the difficulties of the game and also they compete with their team-mates because you have more players than positions.”

Kemar Roofe is back after six weeks out with a calf injury(Image: X03805)
Roofe’s return is a timely boost for Leeds’ flagging attack and after banging in 14 goals in their first five Championship games, they have managed just four in their last four matches to lose some of their momentum.

Bielsa has tried to remedy this and he spent the international break working on his players’ movement to get in behind opposition defences.

“We dedicated a lot of time to the offensive play and inside the offensive play we worked a lot on the movements to free ourselves,” he said.

“When we do these movements, we work on the possibilities of receiving the ball behind the opponent.”
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« Svar #645 på: Oktober 27, 2018, 08:58:41 »
Lee Sobot

Jack Harrison on Bielsa: "I've learned a lot in terms of off the ball. When I was with New York and City it was all about the technical stuff but here there's a lot of movement off the ball." #lufc

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« Svar #646 på: Oktober 30, 2018, 10:44:02 »
Sky Sports prøver clickbaits om at han er borte innen kort tid, men i intervjuet sier jo Bellamy bare det samme som de fleste Leedsfans allerede har sagt.

https://thisisfutbol.com/2018/10/blogs/bellamy-bielsa-will-be-gone-from-leeds-by-2020/

Inntil videre tror jeg imidlertid at Bielsa og Leeds er en god kombinasjon. Moscowhite var inne på det, han har kanskje funnet sin 'beste klubbmatch' siden tiden i Newell's Old Boys...

Jeg tar ikke for gitt at vi har ham lenge. Men for now er jeg veldig trygg på at han blir. :)
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« Svar #647 på: Oktober 31, 2018, 16:52:31 »

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« Svar #648 på: November 01, 2018, 22:21:02 »
Marcelo Bielsa
@Frases_M_Bielsa
"El hincha es el elemento más puro que tiene este deporte".
Translated from Spanish by
Microsoft
"The fan is the purest element of this sport."
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« Svar #649 på: November 02, 2018, 10:44:38 »
Vi har en ekte fotballmann med genuin interesse for "hele" laget - tenk hva det betyr for 18-åringen på utlån i en litt perifer amatørklubb....Ikke så langt til Harrogate i km, men .....dog.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/liam-kitching-reveals-shock-and-nerves-after-marcelo-bielsa-casts-eye-over-leeds-united-loanee-1-9425050


« Siste redigering: November 02, 2018, 10:47:29 av kjella »

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« Svar #650 på: November 05, 2018, 23:13:12 »
https://www.dagbladet.no/sport/stor-karing-verdens-50-beste-managere/70390815

Mangler en helt opplagt mann på denne lista spør du meg...

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« Svar #651 på: November 06, 2018, 05:26:22 »
Hva gir man til koner som har alt?? Svaret er naturligvis en Bielsa-bucket. https://www.google.no/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7645657/leeds-united-sell-marcelo-bielsa-bucket-price/amp/

Hvis det i tillegg fungerer som kjøleboks er det et møbel ethvert hjem bør ha.

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« Svar #652 på: November 07, 2018, 22:37:21 »
Ny Marcelo-tweet:

 
Marcelo Bielsa
@Frases_M_Bielsa
27 minutes ago
“Mi modelo ha sido Van Gaal, estudié más de 250 partidos de sus equipos. Al llegar al 170º, adiviné los cambios que iba a hacer y comprendí que había asimilado su pensamiento”.
Translated from Spanish by   Microsoft
"My model has been Van Gaal, I studied more than 250 matches of his teams. When we reached the 170 º, guessed the changes I was going to make and understood that he had assimilated his thought. "

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« Svar #653 på: November 08, 2018, 20:55:59 »
Ny Marcelo-tweet;
Før hadde han 200 spr til sine (nye) spillere.
Nå har han beholdt 5 av de :)


Marcelo Bielsa
@Frases_M_Bielsa
13 minutes ago
“Diseñé 200 preguntas básicas para comprender a un jugador. Pero guardé cinco. Por ejemplo: ‘¿Qué piensas de la pobreza en el mundo? ¿Qué prefieres hacer? ¿Cuáles son tus cinco libros o tus cinco películas favoritas?’”.
Translated from Spanish by  Microsoft
"I designed 200 basic questions to understand a player. But I kept five. For example: ' What do you think about poverty in the world? What do you prefer to do? What are your five books or your five favorite movies? '
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« Svar #654 på: November 10, 2018, 10:48:40 »
Will Leeds United’s form implode – or is ‘Bielsa burnout’ just a myth? An investigation

Leeds sit top of the Championship but, with injuries piling up, concerns have been raised they are about to fall prey to an 'old' problem

Jon MackenzieFriday November 9th 2018
 
Leeds manager Marcelo Bielsa has disciples all over the world - including Pep Guardiola and Mauricio Pochettino - but he also goes by the nickname 'el loco' (the crazy one) (Photo: PA)
Ask most fans of football if there are any certainties in the beautiful game and they will be all too happy to furnish you with suggestions: Harry Kane won’t score in August; Jürgen Klopp cannot win finals; José Mourinho goes through a “third-season syndrome” at whichever club he manages; Romelu Lukaku will fail to score against top sides… and Marcelo Bielsa teams will suffer from burnout.

That these sorts of ideas have entered the public consciousness is hardly surprising. As psychologist Steven Pinker explains: “Cognitive psychology has shown that the mind best understands facts when they are woven into a conceptual fabric, such as a narrative, mental map, or intuitive theory. Disconnected facts in the mind are like linked pages on the Web: They might as well not exist.” Narratives exist as a scaffold upon which we can hang our facts, giving some kind of meaning to an array of otherwise arbitrary details.

Of course, this goes both ways. Where the stories we tell can allow us to impose an order onto the chaotic world we find ourselves in, they can equally introduce erroneous ideas into the conversation. How else do you think we ended up with Mohamed Salah, the player who “wasn’t good enough for Liverpool” when he signed, the player who was “going to challenge Messi” at the end of last season or the player who is now being touted as a “one-season wonder” all within the space of a year? When we attempt to narrate football we often find ourselves treading the narrow path between arbitrary fact and mythological fiction.

Take Bielsa. As Leeds United travel to the Midlands to play fellow promotion hopefuls West Bromwich Albion this weekend, he finds himself in charge of a team who sit at the top of the Championship, having taken the league by storm with a style of play seldom seen in the second tier of English football.

At this point, you might suppose a tilt at automatic promotion is on the cards or, at the very least, a chance of play-off glory. However, at the back of everyone’s mind the three-decade-old apprehension remains: Bielsa teams always fall away at the end of a season, don’t they?

Origins of the ‘Bielsa burnout’ narrative

 
Marcelo Bielsa greets fans as he arrives at Elland Road prior to the match between Leeds United and Brentford (Getty Images)
Narratives don’t arise from nowhere. A series of events or details emerge that strikes someone as odd. These are investigated more closely. A story is told.

In the case of Bielsa and the burnout narrative, there is solid evidence to suggest that the phenomenon has occurred at points in his career. During his first season as manager at Newell’s Old Boys in 1990-91, Bielsa’s team went from securing the title in the apertura – the opening half of the season – to winning only six games in the clausura – the second half of the season.

Inevitably, questions were raised about his ability to regulate the intensity of his approach to management. However, there are mitigating factors which should be taken into account here. On the one hand, the clausura in 1990-91 was followed by an even more disastrous apertura the following season. Winning only three matches, Newell’s ended the calendar year with a mere nine victories in the league. The summer break had done very little to substantiate the claim that fatigue might be the sole explanation for the slump.

On top of this, the structure of the Argentine Primera División at that time pitted the winner of the apertura against the winner of the clausura in an end of season play-off to determine the overall champion. Played as a two-legged tie in early July, Newell’s beat Boca Juniors, winning 3-1 on penalties. Where Bielsa’s side were not so fatigued as to lose to their opponents in the play-off, a case could be made that they dropped off in the clausura as a result of their qualification for the play-off at the end of the apertura.

What’s the problem?

 
Marcelo Bielsa watches Argentina during their FIFA 2002 World Cup qualifier against Peru played at the Estadio River Plate (Getty Images)
A quick perusal through Bielsa’s managerial CV from this point onward makes it difficult to understand quite how the burnout narrative took such a firm hold in the collective consciousness of the footballing world.

The Argentine’s is certainly a non-standard career pathway and includes a long stint with two national teams along with a number of tenures cut short because of various off-pitch issues. Having left Newell’s Old Boys after losing in the final of the Copa Libertadores in 1992, there was nothing from his time in Argentine club football that gave any suspicion that an end of season fatigue was an ongoing problem.

Moving to Espanyol in 1998, Bielsa left early to take up the position of Argentina’s national team coach before later switching one South American national team for another when Chile came knocking. Understandably, fatigue was never an issue for Bielsa during this period. But neither was it an issue at Marseille, who won four consecutive games at the end of the 2014-15 season before Bielsa left early the following season. Beyond this, Lazio came and went within 48 hours and a disastrous spell at Lille lasted just 13 games.

In fact, the only other period of his career that gives any credence to an end of season fatigue narrative is Bielsa’s first season at Athletic Club, which saw the side lose three of their final four games in the league as well as a Copa del Rey final and a Europa League final.

‘We couldn’t even move’

 
Ander Herrera gestures during the Copa del Rey Final match between Athletic Club and Barcelona in 2012 (Getty Images)
When asked about that season, Ander Herrera was forthright with his opinion about the underlying cause: “I can’t lie to you, in the last months we couldn’t even move. We had five games to play in the league and were in two cup finals and I think we lost all of them. [They lost three in the league, drew one and won one].”

“Our legs said ‘stop’,” he continued. “We used to play always with the same players and were not at our best in the finals. We were a completely different team than we had been before because, to be honest, we were physically f*cked.”

There can be little doubt that the Athletic Club players had experienced a burnout in those final weeks of the season. Once again, though, there were mitigating factors.

Firstly, regardless of the three losses out of five in La Liga, Athletic’s final league position of 10th was hardly indicative of an end of season slump. The team had spent almost the entire campaign in the midtable and even dropped as low as 19th at one point. They also lost three out of five games at the opening of that La Liga season.

It was also a long season – the team ended up playing 65 matches across all competitions – and, despite losing in the Copa del Rey and Europa League finals, falling at the hands of a second-placed Barcelona and fifth-placed Atletico Madrid was hardly indicative of a complete collapse.

No worries

 

Kemar Roofe looks on during the Sky Bet Championship between Leeds United and Nottingham Forest (Getty Images)Speaking to the Leeds manager after their 2-1 win against Wigan Athletic last weekend,  i asked him about the injuries mounting in his squad and whether or not he had any concern they might have been caused by his famously intense training regime.

‘Actually, we are the team who has the least injuries in the Championship’

Marcelo Bielsa

The Argentine was adamant: Leeds are not an outlier in the Championship. “Actually, we are the team who has the least injuries in the Championship,” he argued. “If we take some parameters, we are the team with fewest injuries: if we take into account the number of players used, the kind of injury, the muscular injuries.”

When viewed from this perspective, Bielsa suggested, the question of training intensity becomes a non-issue. “Muscular injuries are linked to excessive effort,” he went on, “but [muscular injury] is not the case for Gaetano Berardi, it’s not the case for [Luke] Ayling, it’s not the case for [Patrick] Bamford, it was not the case for [Liam] Cooper. I would actually say that the high percentage of injured players didn’t have muscular injuries.”

Is the idea of an end of season burnout a concern, then? Not for the manager, at any rate. Once again, he reiterated the idea that his side were hardly unusual in their injury record: “Usually as an average, each team when the team plays twice a week, four players are missing from each team. And we are close to this average.”

If Leeds were going to fall away at the end of the season, so his logic seemed to be, then so were a lot of other teams.

A question of quality

 
Marcelo Bielsa with Ander Iturraspe during a training session on the eve of the Europa League final in 2012 (Getty Images)
But what do the experts say? In search of a view from outside the club, i spoke to Jed Davies, first team assistant coach of Ottawa Fury and author of The Philosophy of Football: In Shadows of Marcelo Bielsa.

As Davies sees it, part of the explanation for the popularity of the burnout narrative comes from the perception given off by the way that Bielsa’s teams play. “Marcelo Bielsa’s teams are known for their high-octane intensity in the pressing moments and off-ball movements (see video below), especially the sheer volume of runs in behind. The football fan’s perspective is, therefore, one that observes such combative energy and concludes the training week must represent something similar.”

This, he argues, is not an entirely accurate picture. “With much of Marcelo Bielsa’s methodology being unopposed and playing-style related, the idea must be to avoid contact injuries with [his] idea of training.” Increasing the intensity of training sessions, then, does not necessarily mean that the result is an overall increase in physical intensity.


In fact, the intensity that is often spoken of when discussing Bielsa’s methods could be misleading. Davies explains: “What Bielsa does demand is an ‘all-in’, detail-orientated commitment from players to remain highly concentrated and present for longer spells during the training week.”

“At many clubs, it’s commonplace to work three or four-hour days as professional players. Under Bielsa, players will often be expected to work longer days and appreciate those hours invested in improving performance. So, naturally, it might take some time for players to accept and maintain their quality of work.”

Thus we arrive at the idea that any burnout that does occur in Bielsa’s teams is as much the product of an emotional intensity as a physical one.

Living La Vida Loca

 
Marcelo Bielsa watches the action during the preseason friendly match between Marseille and Juventus FC at Stade Velodrome in 2015 (Getty Images)
The idea that the cause of the so-called ‘Bielsa burnout’ could be the result of an emotional rather than physical intensity is a compelling one.

The Leeds manager readily admits his own obsessive tendencies and these, married with his obvious passion for the game, have led to the deterioration of a number of his managerial positions. Most famously, Bielsa left Italian club Lazio after a mere 48 hours in charge, citing a failure to “sign any of the seven additions in the work program expressly approved by the President” and “the departure of 18 players who were involved in the previous season.”

At his previous club, Marseille, the Argentine had left after only one game had been played of his second season, handing in a resignation after announcing his displeasure at the club’s ‘shifting position’ during negotiations for a proposed new deal.

Beyond this, Bielsa has a habit of falling out with the increasingly ubiquitous directors of football who operate behind the scenes at many clubs. The ruinous 13-game stint at Lille that directly preceded his time at Leeds involved a slowly rumbling disagreement with Gérard Lopez and his time at Athletic Club was punctuated by fallouts over player signings and contracts, principal amongst which were cases involving Fernando Llorente and Javi Martinez.

Emotional toll

These off-field events, along with the need for complete commitment from his players on the training field, have contributed to the maverick persona that has come to be associated with Marcelo Bielsa. Given the nickname ‘El Loco’, an epithet that understandably rankles him and which he even refuses to repeat in press conferences, Bielsa has been widely cast within popular culture as some sort of footballing madman, imposing his eccentric ideals on his squads in pursuit of perfection.

Regardless of the rightness or wrongness of these characterisations, though, there is clearly an emotional toll that comes from playing for him. When Juan Manuel Llop spoke about his time playing under Bielsa at Newell’s, he hinted at this. “We had two poor seasons because of the level that was demanded of us to fight for the title.

“We had a small squad too. All players from the squad were from the youth system, so Marcelo was extremely demanding and, along with the pressure of challenging for the title, it made a certain easing off inevitable. It’s a phase you go through.”

Yes, fatigue contributed to the decline. But it was as much emotional as a physical one.

Rewriting the narrative

So will Bielsa’s Leeds suffer burnout as the season unfolds? Perhaps. Is it a given? Certainly not.

Narratives exist for a reason. Bielsa’s first seasons at Newell’s and Athletic Club respectively are clearly instances of some sort of late-season fade. However, they are also two occurrences in a career that spans nearly thirty years.

Whatever else happens come the end of this year’s Championship campaign, Bielsa and Leeds United are clearly aware of the burnout narrative and are taking steps to prevent it from becoming a reality.

But, as we have seen, these burnouts have as much to do with external factors as internal factors. Should the emotional intensity become too much, should there be disagreements with pivotal players or the board, should a physical fatigue actually set in, then the whole edifice could well come crumbling down.

One thing is for certain, though: if Leeds United can hold on and return to the Premier League after years wandering in the wilderness, Bielsa will have written a whole new narrative for himself.
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Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #655 på: November 10, 2018, 10:53:16 »
Jeg må fortsatt argumentere for at spillere som Bamford, Brown, Berardi og Ayling vil få en ny «vår» når de kommer tilbake i januar/februar.

Med Forshaw som en late starter og Pontus som kom inn litt sent og i tillegg både Roofe og Pablo med pauser så har jeg INGEN tro på at laget kollapser mot slutten av sesongen.

Phillips og Klich er i flytsonen og vi har erstattere når de viser tegn til tretthet!

Jeg har troen på at Bielsa med støtteapparatet vet hva de står overfor og at de følger en god plan med spillerne i troppen - enten de er unge eller gamle!
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #656 på: November 10, 2018, 11:08:22 »
Jeg må fortsatt argumentere for at spillere som Bamford, Brown, Berardi og Ayling vil få en ny «vår» når de kommer tilbake i januar/februar.

Med Forshaw som en late starter og Pontus som kom inn litt sent og i tillegg både Roofe og Pablo med pauser så har jeg INGEN tro på at laget kollapser mot slutten av sesongen.

Phillips og Klich er i flytsonen og vi har erstattere når de viser tegn til tretthet!

Jeg har troen på at Bielsa med støtteapparatet vet hva de står overfor og at de følger en god plan med spillerne i troppen - enten de er unge eller gamle!

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Will Leeds United’s form implode – or is ‘Bielsa burnout’ just a myth? An investigation

Leeds sit top of the Championship but, with injuries piling up, concerns have been raised they are about to fall prey to an 'old' problem

Jon MackenzieFriday November 9th 2018
 

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Det er dette jeg har fått mer og mer mistanke om - 'burnouten' har ikke skjedd så ofte som myten tilsier.

Skadene våre i høst kan også vise seg som en blessing in disguise.

Det er ikke sikkert vi rykker opp, men sannsynligvis vil det ha med andre faktorer å gjøre enn burnout…

Bring on WBA :)
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« Svar #658 på: November 10, 2018, 11:22:18 »
Nå viste vel denne artikkelen temmelig grundig at det er ikke snakk om fysisk utbrenning slik vi har tenkt om det. Jeg er ikke bekymret for det i det hele tatt lenger.

Tenker heller ikke at vi skal regne med at de som kommer tilbake fra skade får en veldig boost. Men laget kan få et boost av at vi får kvalitet tilbake i kamptroppen. Det trenger vi.

Det er utrolig spennende tider i Leeds. Håper at vi kan ha Bielsa i noen år så han kan legge grunnlaget for vår vei videre. Jeg vil spille sånn som nå for alltid.

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« Svar #659 på: November 10, 2018, 12:15:01 »
Håper at vi kan ha Bielsa i noen år så han kan legge grunnlaget for vår vei videre. Jeg vil spille sånn som nå for alltid.

Det ville vært fantastisk.

Slik han fremstår som person, og den innflytelsen han har hatt i klubb etter klubb han har ledet - vi vil forhåpentligvis snakke om en innflytelse ala den Sgt Wilko hadde i klubben leenge etter at han gav seg (takket være akademiet han fikk i gang samt Thorpe Arch)
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