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auren

Sv: Sommervinduet 2020
« Svar #30 på: August 04, 2020, 12:43:58 »
Tror Brighton har 9 midtstoppere i stallen. Kan fint kvitte seg med et par da. De kjøpte jo nylig enda en til.

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RoarG

Sv: Sommervinduet 2020
« Svar #31 på: August 04, 2020, 12:46:32 »
Tror Brighton har 9 midtstoppere i stallen. Kan fint kvitte seg med et par da. De kjøpte jo nylig enda en til.

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Har de så mange? Vel, håper på White-kjøp.
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

Eriksen55

Sv: Sommervinduet 2020
« Svar #32 på: August 04, 2020, 21:33:25 »
Tror Brighton har 9 midtstoppere i stallen. Kan fint kvitte seg med et par da. De kjøpte jo nylig enda en til.

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Har de så mange? Vel, håper på White-kjøp.

De har 10 med han nye. Kan fint selge 5 og ha overskudd  :)

Tror mye er opp til White selv. Først må Bielsa signere. Da  leverer White inn overgangssøknaden og Brighton ønsker ikke ha en spiller som har hjerte i Leeds.  8)

RoarG

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« Svar #33 på: August 05, 2020, 21:32:22 »
En ting er at Brighton kan selge. En annen er at større fisker enn Leeds er ute i farvannet. I Chelsea skal Lampard ha sommer-rengjøring, og nye midtstoppere er på ønskelista. Fra før vet vi at Liverpool er interessert. Jeg tror at White kan velge og vrake i tilbud. Drar vi i land White blir jeg overrasket, men svært lykkelig.
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

RoarG

Sv: Sommervinduet 2020
« Svar #34 på: September 30, 2020, 10:18:04 »
Sommervinduet går mot slutten. Leeds har hentet 7 etablerte seniorspillere (eller er i ferd med å gjøre det). Ungdomsspillerne holder jeg utenfor. Spillerne Leeds har hentet er:
Jack Harrison (lån)                    , England
Helder Costa                             , Portugal
Robin Koch                                , Tyskland
Diego Llorente                           , Spania
Rodrigo Moreno                          , Spania
Mikael Cuisaunce (99,99% i boks), Frankrike
Som man ser er 6 av 7 ikke-briter. Leeds forsøkte som kjent hardt å kjøpe Ben White fra Brighton. Men Leeds lot seg ikke lure utpå galeien av overbud på britiske spillere. Man har hentet tysk og spansk på midtstopper-plassen. Kanskje noe britiske klubber kan merke seg? I disse corona-tider med svært anstrengt økonomi bør fotballen (både klubber og spillere) overveie om transfer- og lønnsbonanzaen, som har ridd fotballen som en mare, er økonomisk bærekraftig. Brighton har altså fått erfare at man har priset seg ut av markedet. Det er kjøpers marked, tydeligvis.
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

gekon17

Sv: Sommervinduet 2020
« Svar #35 på: September 30, 2020, 10:45:38 »
Vil ikke si at Brighton priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke ville selge denne White. Blir det samme som å si at Leeds priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke solgte KP forrige sommer...

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RoarG

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« Svar #36 på: Oktober 01, 2020, 08:38:50 »
Vil ikke si at Brighton priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke ville selge denne White. Blir det samme som å si at Leeds priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke solgte KP forrige sommer...

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De satte da visserligen opp en skyhøy asking price for White. Hadde Leeds matchet denne, hadde klubben solgt.
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

gekon17

Sv: Sommervinduet 2020
« Svar #37 på: Oktober 01, 2020, 08:53:22 »
Vil ikke si at Brighton priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke ville selge denne White. Blir det samme som å si at Leeds priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke solgte KP forrige sommer...

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De satte da visserligen opp en skyhøy asking price for White. Hadde Leeds matchet denne, hadde klubben solgt.
Nå synser vi sikkert litt begge to, men i følge Hay så var Brighton meget happy da Leeds kom med final offer, take it or leave it, da de ikke ville selge og heller beholde spiller. Når man heller vil beholde en spiller enn å selge, han signerte jo ny kontrakt, så mener jeg ikke at en klubb priser seg ut. Eller formulert annerledes, man priser seg ut med vilje fordi man vil beholde spilleren.

Når det er sagt så kan jo alt kjøpes hvis man byr latterlig mye, men når en klubb vil beholde en spiller og spilleren signerer ny kontrakt er det jo vinn vinn.... mener du at Leeds priset seg ut av markedet med KP? Og at var negativt? Situasjonene er jo ganske like

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« Svar #38 på: Oktober 01, 2020, 09:18:57 »
Grei oppsummering fra Graham...

Work still to do, questions to be answered and what we can say about Leeds United's summer window -
Leeds United’s summer 2020 transfer window cannot be declared a complete success, just yet, because there is still work to be done and because football is not played on paper or on Victor Orta’s laptop.
By Graham Smyth Thursday, 1st October 2020, 5:45 am

The latter isn’t strictly true, he does use it to play Fantasy Premier League and he is quite handy – a scurrilous rumour emerged in the Elland Road offices on January’s deadline day earlier this year that he was helping to pick the teams of other staff members with lesser expertise.

A first-ever Premier League window with the Whites has allowed Orta to play fantasy football in real life, with a huge budget and the green light to spend it on players he has long wanted to see out on the pitch at LS11.

Orta often says his job is to give Marcelo Bielsa the tools he needs to do his job but also admits that no-one has a 100 per cent track record when it comes to signings.


He got it very right with Ben White and Illan Meslier looks more bargainous all the time – at Sheffield United he made Orta, and goalkeeping coach Marcos Abad, look like visionaries.

But the yet-to-be-resolved Jean-Kevin Augustin saga is a sobering reminder that even if a player comes with a YouTube highlight reel of silky skill, a big reputation, top-flight continental experience and a big price tag, sometimes deals just don’t work out. This is football, as Orta would say.

So we won’t know just how good his 2020 recruitment was until the new boys have helped keep Leeds in the Premier League. That might not sound like a hugely successful first season and Rodrigo and co will certainly set their aims a little higher, but it’s the priority for Bielsa’s new-look squad.


It might even take longer than a season to decide that a signing was the right one – Helder Costa has taken his time to really bed in and start showing his ability and Jack Harrison only really started pulling up trees last season.

What you can say about Orta’s first foray into the market as a top-flight club is that they’ve been ambitious, efficient, adaptable and organised.

When players they initially targeted were taken off the list by various circumstances, Leeds reacted quickly, switching focus from top-end Championship stars to internationals from Europe’s top leagues.

Orta couldn’t prise White away from Brighton so he landed a German national team defender, with Bundesliga experience, for less than half of what he would have had to pay if the Seagulls had relented.

When the Josko Gvardiol interest didn’t result in a closing of the boardroom curtains for photos of a contract signing, Orta landed a Spanish national team defender.

That swift switch of focus can only happen if there is a plan and Orta’s famous lists ensured that Leeds were not paralysed by the failure to land target number one.

Neither Robin Koch nor Diego Llorente were considered consolation prizes because both had been tracked for years by the head of recruitment and because Bielsa approved.

Getting Rodrigo, for a club-record fee, was a display of Leeds’ intentions to behave like a Premier League club, while adding a player Bielsa has wanted but been unable to sign at previous clubs, a player whose ability and humility make him a good fit for the system.

The rumour mill really kicked into gear for the midfield vacancy Orta set out to fill and 48 hours rarely went by without a new name ‘close to a deal’ with the Whites, but while Rodrigo De Paul flirted with fans on social media and kept himself linked to Elland Road, Orta made discreet advances towards Bayern Munich for Michael Cuisance.

A bid, Elland Road sources say, was never made for De Paul and although constant reports turned it into a bit of a sideshow, it acted as a smokescreen that allowed Leeds to get a deal done for a midfielder in relative peace and quiet. Just a winger remains now, when it comes to first-team recruitment, to allow Leeds to say they’ve got what they came for from this market.

Bielsa, unsurprisingly, will just adapt, he says, if the last bit of business cannot be done and we’ve seen him do it before.

When Kalvin Phillips went down with injury at the end of last season, no one guessed that Pascal Struijk would be the solution and a more than adequate one at that.

Stuart Dallas is the solution to a number of other problems that could arise and all of the new boys signed thus far have enough versatility in their game to fill potential gaps in every area.

Once the window closes and we can all concentrate on football again, we can begin to assess whether or not Orta gave Bielsa the right tools to do the job if Pablo Hernandez can’t play or if Mateusz Klich’s invincibility wears off.

Those remain the biggest question marks, even taking Rodrigo’s impressive cameo at Bramall Lane and Cuisance’s promising profile as a prospective No 8 into account.

A good window? Leeds think so. After Monday it’s over to Bielsa to begin proving it and Orta can get back to making his lists and deciding which of his shiny new signings will make his and his colleagues’ fantasy teams.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/work-still-do-questions-be-answered-and-what-we-can-say-about-leeds-uniteds-summer-window-graham-smyth-2988825

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RoarG

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« Svar #39 på: Oktober 01, 2020, 13:24:03 »
Vil ikke si at Brighton priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke ville selge denne White. Blir det samme som å si at Leeds priset seg ut av markedet da de ikke solgte KP forrige sommer...

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De satte da visserligen opp en skyhøy asking price for White. Hadde Leeds matchet denne, hadde klubben solgt.
Nå synser vi sikkert litt begge to, men i følge Hay så var Brighton meget happy da Leeds kom med final offer, take it or leave it, da de ikke ville selge og heller beholde spiller. Når man heller vil beholde en spiller enn å selge, han signerte jo ny kontrakt, så mener jeg ikke at en klubb priser seg ut. Eller formulert annerledes, man priser seg ut med vilje fordi man vil beholde spilleren.

Når det er sagt så kan jo alt kjøpes hvis man byr latterlig mye, men når en klubb vil beholde en spiller og spilleren signerer ny kontrakt er det jo vinn vinn.... mener du at Leeds priset seg ut av markedet med KP? Og at var negativt? Situasjonene er jo ganske like

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Leeds priset seg ut av markedet med Phillips, ja. Aston Villa var villige til å kjøpe, men ikke til prisen Leeds forlangte. Om det var positivt eller negativt får vi aldri vite. Hva vi vet er at Leeds rykket opp med Philips i klubben. Om vi hadde klart det uten han, er det umulig å si noe sikkert om.
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« Svar #40 på: Oktober 16, 2020, 19:44:06 »
Kinnear oppsummerer vinduet:

Transfer activity is evidence of Andrea Radrizzani and Leeds United's Premier League ambitions, says CEO Angus Kinnear
Leeds United's determination not to simply make up the numbers in the Premier League has been evidenced by their transfer window activity, says chief executive Angus Kinnear.
By Graham Smyth Friday, 16th October 2020, 4:05 pm


AMBITIOUS SIGNING - Rodrigo broke Leeds United's transfer record when he moved from Valencia to the Premier League new boys.

The domestic window closes today at 5pm but Leeds completed their business by the final hour of the international deadline, 11 days ago. Only the departures on loan of Barry Douglas and Robbie Gotts have given the club involvement in the final stages of the window.

They broke their transfer record to sign Rodrigo from Valencia for around £27m, added long-term target Robin Koch from German top flight side SC Freiburg and Spanish international defender Diego Llorente from Real Sociedad.

Brazilian winger Raphinha was added on deadline day from Rennes for a fee in the region of £17m to take the club's summer spent to around the £90m mark. There were several highly rated youngsters added to the Under 23s group as well, from clubs abroad and at home.


Bielsa told the press today he was 'totally satisfied' with what the club managed to do in the window and is content with the options at his disposal for every position, even if a deal for central midfielder Michael Cuisance fell through at the last minute over Leeds' medical concerns.

Kinnear credited director of football Victor Orta and Bielsa for their work to bring who they feel are the right additions to the newly promoted Premier League club and Andrea Radrizzani for putting his money where the Elland Road ambitions lie.

"I think we're delighted with the window." he said.


"Victor and Marcelo have worked really well in aligning players that Victor has identified through the scouting network but have then met Marcelo's exacting standards. We're reinforced the fact that Andrea is prepared to invest seriously in Premier League status and we're not here just to make up the numbers."

Although Leeds' initial plan was to sign players who had excelled in the Championship, players they felt would cope with the step up in standard, the actual business they did took on a very different look. Of their four major first team signings, only Raphinha is yet to play international football, but he has experienced European club football and since his arrival has impressed Bielsa with his lightning-quick adaptation to the Whites' playing style.

Orta revealed to the YEP in an exclusive interview that their activity in the market was largely determined by player availability, which can vary wildly during a window, as was the case with Rodrigo, Llorente and Raphinha. In the case of striker Rodrigo, Valencia's financial situation necessitated sales, while both Real Socieded and Rennes changed their minds on keeping Llorente and Raphinha. All in all it gave Leeds fans a more exciting window than many had anticipated, when promotion to the top flight was secured.

"The strategy of going for the cream of the Championship has been delivered perfectly," quipped Kinnear.

Whites fans may get their first sighting of Raphinha on Monday night when Leeds take on Wolves at Elland Road. Bielsa has confirmed the 23-year-old will be involved in the squad.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/transfer-activity-evidence-andrea-radrizzani-and-leeds-uniteds-premier-league-ambitions-says-ceo-angus-kinnear-3006181
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