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« Svar #60 på: Oktober 18, 2020, 11:31:24 »
Deler denne fra Jon Howe.

Var vi blant 'Big 6' i år 2000? (sportslig stemmer det jo i årene rundt der, men var finansene på stell nok til at vi egentlig var inkludert - og hvilke kriterier skal man ha...)

Og han er innom mye annet :D :D :D

JON HOWE: BIG BUSINESS
Jon Howe: Big Business
Weekly column.

In his latest column for leedsunited.com, lifelong supporter Jon Howe looks at the 'Big Six'.


Things change quickly in football, and Leeds United in 2020 are a good example of that. There has been a lot of talk about the ‘Big Six’ this week, and this isn’t the platform to discuss and dissect the ‘Project Big Picture’ proposals, except to say that performances on the pitch should maybe always have the final say in how the game is structured?

At the turn of the Millennium things looked very different to today. In a nine-year spell either side of the Year 2000 only Manchester United or Arsenal won the league, Chelsea had yet to be invented, Manchester City were busy ‘doing a Leeds’, Spurs were busy being Spurs and Liverpool hadn’t won the title in a decade. A lot can happen in 20 years, or not happen as the case may be.

Would Leeds United have been considered one of the ‘Big Six’ in 2000? Maybe. The financial structuring of football clubs and the Premier League itself has been propelled into another stratosphere since then, and of course a few years later such a discussion was very much a moot point. But the change in Leeds United’s fortunes over the course of 2020 and their performances in the opening four games of the new Premier League season, suggest that the gap can very quickly be closed in terms of league table status, if not in terms of whatever criteria puts you in the ‘Big Six’.

Leeds were trading blows with the top teams in the Premier League 20 years ago, and here we are again. And it is no coincidence that squad health and progressive planning has a lot to do with it. Leeds have ended the recent transfer window with their squad undeniably in its best shape since that period around 2000, even taking into account the relative challenges of the divisions we have frequented since then.

Today, the squad is probably better balanced than David O’Leary’s, it is certainly leaner and it is bolstered by a readymade procession of home-grown youth products already attuned to a specific culture and philosophy. The squad as it stands today, is a result of a co-ordinated blueprint that has longevity and succession planning at its core. It is a long time since we were able to say that, and a long time since we were able to approach a transfer window and pinpoint the key areas where we needed reinforcements, or a step-change in quality, and subsequently see those exact requirements filled.

Admit it, most of us expected Marcelo to ‘wing it’ in his own sweet way, and go into the season without a recognised central defensive back-up. And no doubt we would have coped perfectly well as a result of some madcap scientific formula which somehow resulted in Jamie Shackleton winning plaudits as the new Franco Baresi after a dogged away win at Newcastle. But thankfully Marcelo spared us some sleepless nights and comprehensively addressed the issue with the signing of Spanish international Diego Llorente.

The accumulation of seven points from four games – including two heroic tussles with the country’s elite clubs – has come largely on the back of utilising last season’s squad. So there is the promise of so much more to come. So far, Patrick Bamford, Jack Harrison, Mateusz Klich and Helder Costa have contributed heavily with goals and assists. Neutral observers have marvelled at our fluidity, intensity and creativity in the opening four games, but with genuine sincerity, you can’t help thinking they have seen nothing yet. In terms of attacking options, Ian Poveda and Rodrigo have shown merely flashes of their potential, we have yet to see Raphinha set foot on the pitch and then there’s Pablo. There is always Pablo.

It may seem that Leeds are overloaded with three left-footed right wingers, but most of us are wise to the fact that our formation changes with the wind and any signing made in the last couple of years is on the basis that they can comfortably play anywhere across the field, and could be about to at any moment.

When we talk about things changing quickly in football, I still hold the scars from a period when we somehow managed without a genuine wide player for seemingly about five years. I’m sure a few of us can recall the legitimate excitement when Brian McDermott signed Cameron Stewart and Jimmy Kebe on loan and they lined up in a ‘progressive’ 3-4-3 formation for their first game one Saturday lunchtime at Hillsborough. We all watched on expectantly as if ‘wingers’ were about to be revealed like Steve Jobs pulling the first iPod out of his back pocket after talking up a home improvement revolution at an Apple convention. This was purest alchemy. Except we lost 6-0 and the screwball ‘wingers’ experiment was hastily packed up into a cardboard box and shoved under the bed to wait for the next charity bag. Leeds United; the wingless wonders, or other such descriptions.

And yet here we are six years later with a squad in the rudest health most of us can remember. But this hasn’t happened by accident, and it perhaps makes a mockery of what constitutes a ‘Big Six’ club, when a transfer window can be navigated with such strategic composure. It’s almost like everyone recently had a couple of months off with nothing to do but watch videos, scratch out plans and have distant conversations. Whilst other clubs appear to put all their eggs in one basket and pin their hopes on one big signing which never looks likely to come off, and which results in an unsightly scramble on deadline day and still leaves the fanbase dissatisfied and empty, like when you concede six goals perhaps? Man, we know how that feels.

So despite not knowing what division we would be in, and despite the minor distraction of still needing to scratch a 16-year-old itch, Leeds were able to make plans and then, in the most unruly and disobedient transfer window ever, were able to execute them.

Leeds are not the finished article, and no one is suggesting they are, and no one is suggesting other clubs aren’t in similarly primed and compelling condition, like Wolves, Leicester and Everton, for example. But when all the talk at the moment is of the ‘Big Six’, it will be interesting to see how that plays out in terms of league positions this season, and how those fabled ‘elite’ clubs look in terms of leadership, structure, culture and continuity come May next year. Unless of course, being ‘Big’ means none of those things?

https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/27190/jon-howe-big-business
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« Svar #61 på: Oktober 20, 2020, 21:11:55 »


Leeds United’s 25-man Premier League squad. Includes Jay-Roy Grot, although he’s injured at present and out of contract next summer. Meslier, Struijk, Poveda and others fall into the U21 category, hence why this list only runs to 18 names.
7 stk av de 25 er altså formelt U23-spillere og derfor ikke på denne listen.

Meslier
Struijk
Poveda
Shakleton
Davis
Roberts
Caprile

Dette er gjetning på hvem de 7 er... (det trengs jo mer enn 2 keepere)
Ikke plass til Gelhardt da altså..
..eller er kanskje U23-spillerne mer fleksibelt og kan endres etter hvert.
Skjønner fortsatt ikke vitsen med Grot på listen :o

Home grown handler tydeligvis om å være engelsk...
Noen fantastiske mellomnavn her og der :D
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« Svar #62 på: Oktober 20, 2020, 21:20:59 »

Skjønner fortsatt ikke vitsen med Grot på listen :o


Har vel funnet et svar:

Grot involved because the minimum number is 18 names?

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« Svar #63 på: Oktober 20, 2020, 21:46:50 »
Costa's navn er jo mer komplisert enn Pippi Langstrømpes.....
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« Svar #64 på: Oktober 24, 2020, 13:02:08 »
3-1-2 starten vår er faktisk identisk med 1.sesong etter opprykk (90/91) sist også...

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Can't get over how similar #lufc feels under Bielsa to the Wilko era. Both promoted in 2nd season, flew in top division & did well (1st 6 game record is identical to 90/91 W3,D1,L2) - we may even have our Lee Chapman figure in Patrick Hat-Trick! 4th in 90/91... just saying! Winking face
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« Svar #65 på: Oktober 24, 2020, 13:15:34 »
3-1-2 starten vår er faktisk identisk med 1.sesong etter opprykk (90/91) sist også...

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Can't get over how similar #lufc feels under Bielsa to the Wilko era. Both promoted in 2nd season, flew in top division & did well (1st 6 game record is identical to 90/91 W3,D1,L2) - we may even have our Lee Chapman figure in Patrick Hat-Trick! 4th in 90/91... just saying! Winking face

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« Svar #66 på: Oktober 24, 2020, 13:21:57 »


Ikke for å mase Asbjørn, men" Gullskjema sesongen 20/21" når kommer den?

Droppet jo den da - men klarte ikke helt å legge den vekk så jeg laget en privat en, på ark :D 
6.plassen ble alternativet til playoff :D :D :D
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« Svar #67 på: November 02, 2020, 17:04:02 »
Sky forteller verden det vi har visst lenge:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/12118509/leeds-united-ahead-of-man-utd-and-liverpool-to-top-premier-league-for-sprints
Average distance covered per game
Average sprints per game
Opposition passes per defensive action (PPDA)
Attacking impact

Conclusion
Bielsa's side possess a unique style, epitomised by hard graft, commitment and team ethic, while the numbers indicate their intensity is fairly shared among the players and could be sustainable for the remainder of this campaign.
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« Svar #68 på: November 08, 2020, 12:17:37 »
Jeg syns Smyth er flink å sette sesongen i perspektiv i starten av denne kamprapporten.
Og, Victor Orta igjen med noen udødelige ord: "I hate modern football!" :D

Crystal Palace hadde syv strake tap mot slutten av  forrige sesong. Look at them now...



Leeds United battered, bruised after Crystal Palace defeat but Marcelo Bielsa's side are not broken - Graham Smyth's Verdict
Sometimes you are the hammer, sometimes you are the nail.
By Graham Smyth  Sunday, 8th November 2020, 5:45 am


For two games in succession Leeds United have played the part of the nail, something that was always going to happen at some stage for a newly promoted side and will almost certainly happen again as the season unfolds.

Their fellow Premier League new boys Fulham and West Brom also know the feeling- the latter, like Sheffield United, find themselves in the unenviable position of failing so far to take a single turn at being the hammer.

Even reigning champions Liverpool have been on the receiving end of a one-sided bashing since their title defence began. It happens.


Last season, Crystal Palace ended the campaign with a banging headache thanks to seven straight defeats and a winless run of eight games, shipping 18 goals in the process.

Manager Roy Hodgson, however, is a man whose managerial tenure at Selhurst Park has hinged on patience. He showed it when he was required to work minor miracles with a small squad, delivering three successive midtable finishes and the club repaid him by refusing to throw the baby out with the bath water when last season ended with that poor spell.

In a world that shows little willingness to give things time, even something as crucial as the result of an election, Hodgson and the man in charge of the team Palace beat 4-1 on Saturday have patience in common.


Marcelo Bielsa's team sprints more than any other in the Premier League but he himself is not prone to undue haste.

Last season proved that Bielsa would not be rushed into making any definitive declarations on Leeds' promotion hopes until he was embracing Kalvin Phillips in a beer and champagne soaked Elland Road function suite. This season he has refused to be drawn on Leeds' survival chances or indeed on any 'tendencies' whatsoever in the early stages of his first Premier League campaign. A pair of defeats in the most ruthless and punishing of English divisions will not prompt panic and like Hodgson late last season, he won't get carried away even if two defeats becomes three, four or more.

That's not to say either man is content to stand still - Bielsa is willing to make changes so early in games they can appear drastic to onlookers who don't see the picture he sees and Hodgson was keen to bring in quality and freshen things up at Selhurst Park in the summer. At 4-1 up on Saturday he lost his cool over a botched two-on-two breakaway that would have added merely gloss to an already guaranteed result.

They both know the race is long and the full picture is big - bigger than a result or two, for sure. It's bigger than the temporary absence of key men like Kalvin Phillips and Rodrigo and bigger than situations involving individuals like Pablo Hernandez. Even on a day when attacking creativity was going to be paramount, Bielsa was content to omit the Spanish magician from his squad, believing his decision to be the right one in the context of a bigger picture he's yet to and may never reveal to the world.

This game, against a well drilled defensive side with counter attacking excellence was never going to be easy but Bielsa's Leeds are used to that. Life was never easy in the Championship, when teams set up to defend deep week after week. But few things spell trouble for Leeds like conceding an early goal.

It gives the opposition license to double down on the tactic of letting Leeds take all the risks and waiting for mistakes upon which they can capitalise.

So Scott Dann's 12th minute opener, a header from a corner that Illan Meslier just couldn't keep out, did not bode well.

But Leeds' response was superb, even if the goal at the end of a really well-worked move involving Luke Ayling, Mateusz Klich and Patrick Bamford was chalked off by VAR because the latter's shoulder on the arm with which he was pointing where he wanted the ball to be played was deemed offside.

Football has no qualms about kicking you when you're down and Klich was literally prone when Eberechi Eze went to ground with Robin Koch in close proximity to earn a free-kick he subsequently bent into Meslier's top corner. Leeds director of football Victor Orta was at pains to point out that Leeds had earlier put the ball out of play with Andros Townsend still returning to his feet after a challenge, but his protests echoed fruitlessly around the empty ground.

There was nothing else for it but to take risks in possession and the same combination of players who opened Palace up the first time did so again. Ayling clipped the ball in towards Klich, he headed it on and Bamford found space and time to slam a shot past Vincente Guaita.

The Whites were playing well, better than they had against Leicester, but you can play well without scoring. You can play well while conceding. You can play well and suffer rank bad luck.

Leeds didn't level before the break, instead Palace went 3-1 up and it was a Patrick van Aanholt cross that deflected off Helder Costa to leave Meslier completely wrong footed that did the trick.

There was no such luck for Leeds in the second half and they didn't make their own, either. Pascal Struijk should have hit the net from a Jack Harrison corner but didn't. The visitors should have made more of their possession in dangerous areas but repeatedly failed to beat the full-backs and crosses which had to come from deep were easily defended.

The return of Raphinha, off the bench, gave Leeds something a little different as he popped up here, there and everywhere in search of space and possession to do damage. But it was pretty without ever being decisive.

Instead, when Harrison gave the ball away, Palace were too swift in their transition to attack and Leeds too slow to recover defensive shape, allowing Jordan Ayew time at the back post to beat Meslier via the post.

With Eze oozing class on the ball and Palace playing with the freedom of a three-goal cushion, the hammering could have worsened, but didn't.

Leeds go into the international break a little battered and bruised but not broken.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-battered-bruised-after-crystal-palace-defeat-marcelo-bielsas-side-are-not-broken-graham-smyths-verdict-3028903

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« Svar #69 på: November 08, 2020, 12:27:15 »

Og, Victor Orta igjen med noen udødelige ord: "I hate modern football!" :D

..ser at eg lovde litt mye i Smyth-rapporten, dèn hadde eg fra Leeds-Live:

Orta loses patience

Orta is no stranger to this column after a United match, but we heard a little more detail from Orta beyond the standard cheers and noise.


The match was gone at 4-1, but Orta’s patience with the officials ran out towards the latter stages.

There was one particular penalty shout not given which annoyed him and he couldn’t help shouting “I hate modern football” repeatedly.


Det avsnittet kom etter dette:
VAR fume in the directors’ box

It wasn’t just on the pitch where United employees were angry with the VAR decision against Bamford.

In the main stand too, where each club’s top brass sat together to watch the game, there was conjecture and argument.


Director of football Victor Orta, chief executive Angus Kinnear and head of communications James Mooney were all complaining with their arms aloft about the decision.

Meanwhile, Palace chairman Steve Parish was looking over and trying to explain why the decision was correct. Naturally, they didn’t see eye to eye.
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-moments-missed-palace-19242720
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« Svar #70 på: November 09, 2020, 22:40:53 »
På denne tida, og etter to 1-4 tap så kommer det frem litt sutring fra Leeds-fansen, rett og rimelig ? eller tøv ?
Skal prøve kort å fortelle fra mitt ståsted ; Vi er endelig tilbake i Premier League, drit-happy !!!  Akseptabel start etter 6 kamper, noe små rusk i maskineriet, men absolutt ok.  Deretter 2 x 1-4....wow !!  Skuffelse : ja....men, til å leve med : jada (svelg noen kameler, det har vi Leeds fans gjort tidligere)...
Bare å nedjustere forventninger noen hakk.  Sånne resultater kan vi fortsatt få med vår spillestil, som jo er krevende. I Premier League treffer vi på mer kvalitet enn i CS.  Angripere som er mer effektiv, tekniske og hurtige.  Vi blir veldig, veldig sårbare ved balltap i etablert angreps spill (særlig uten Kalvin) og selv vi sliter med egen effektivitet og for dårlig kvalitet på siste tredel i banen til tider. Vi har et forholdsvis ungt lag (en ung keeper spesielt) med nesten ingen Premier League erfaring.  Vi har en litt tynn stall med liten erfaring på dette nivået. Da blir vi sårbare for skader og utelukkelser.  Alt dette må vi ta hensyn til når vi ser Leeds spille PL-fotball.  Nøkkelen er Bielsa, det er han som styrer dette laget ; taktikk, trening, laguttak.  Hvordan skal vi spille ? Vi har jo alle forgudet det han har gjort med dette laget, han må finne ut hvordan dette skal utvikles videre.  Suksess formelen med mann-mann, overtall offensivt, mye ballinnehav og mye fokus på ballgjenvinning krever mye av hver enkelt spiller. En krevende spillestil.
Flere lag i PL er kyniske og spiller på sine styrker i forhold til motstanderen ; presse høyt, eller lavt, satse på kontringer, dødball og ikke være opptatt av posession, men være ekstremt retningsorientert offensivt. Blir vi naive med vårt spill i Premier League ?  Vi har en særegen spillestill, og det må vi fortsette med.  Fotball er som sjakk ; man vil vinne med sitt eget spill helst, men justere spillet sitt overfor motstander dersom man ser at ting ikke lykkes underveis.  Bygge erfaring :  Bielsa og spillerne trenger tid i en ny divisjon, vi er ikke utviklet eller "dimensjonert" for denne ligaen ennå. Flere justeringer må til, spillerlogistikk og taktisk.
På pluss siden : unge, sultene spillere også, vi er svært ballsikre på vårt beste, vi har spillere som stadig vil ta steg. Se på Bamford ; flere dømte han at han ikke var bra nok for PL, han er vår klare toppscorer.  Det er mange kamper igjen i ligaen, vi vil forbedre oss - men, regn med at det kan komme noen "blemmer" fortsatt.  Vi må være tålmodige med laget vårt. Det er et sterkt kollektiv, vi har ingen opphøyde "stjerner".                 
Så skal vi sutre nå ?  Nei ! Feil.  Spillerne våre er revansjesugne og har fortsatt et sterkt ønske om å vise hva de er gode for i Premier League.  Jeg sier som jeg har nevnt her tidligere ; vi har ennå kanskje ikke spilt den "perfekte" kampen under Bielsa.  Den dagen kommer ! Mye arbeid gjenstår, men vi må gi denne gjengen tid........ingen tid for å sutre- get behind the team !  Men diskusjoner og engasjement rundt favorittlaget er alltid bra, bare vi diskuterer seriøst så holder vi dette som et godt forum.
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« Svar #71 på: November 09, 2020, 23:41:32 »
En klok og vis manager sa en gang. Det er ikke i medgang behovet for fansens oppbakking trengs. Det er når det butter i mot og ting ikke fungerer at fansens støtte til spillerne og laget er utrolig viktig.


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« Svar #72 på: November 16, 2020, 22:35:55 »
Cheer up folkens, mars er neste international break - og her er menyen fra fredag av :)

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« Svar #73 på: November 16, 2020, 23:16:44 »
....hvis ikke Covid Corona spiser seg inn i menyen og ødelegger rettene.....tipper det skjer endel av det framover i ligaprogrammet.
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« Svar #74 på: November 17, 2020, 20:39:02 »


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Here are the latest appearance numbers for Leeds in the current squad. Stuart Dallas will join the 200+ club with his next match. Jack Harrison is two away from becoming the ninth current player to make 100+ appearances. Six players have spent 5+ seasons at the club. #LUFC
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« Svar #75 på: November 20, 2020, 17:57:34 »
Fire kamper for Leeds før neste international break.
Og det mot fire gode lag som vi like fullt skal kunne være på høyde med.
Resultatene fra disse fire kampene vil altså bestemme hvor vi plasserer oss på tabellen etter 8 runder - skal bli interessant...

Wolves og Leicester som kommer fra 7. og 5.plass i fjor og grei/god start i år, Villa som er kåret blant overgangsvinduets vinnere og er nok et annet lag enn det vi møtte for 15 mnd siden, og et Palace med en angrepsrekke et topplag verdig...

Wolves (H)
Aston Villa (A)
Leicester (H)
Crystal Palace (A)

7 poeng i første firekampersrekke, 8 denne gang da?
I så fall ikke full uttelling men decent enough...
Sesongen hittil har bestått av to fireperioders kamper mellom hver international break.

Vi kom godt fra den første, 211 og 7 poeng
Den neste gav 103 og 3 poeng.

I første periode hadde vi to tittelutfordrere og to bunnlag (må vel kunne kalle ShU det pr nå).
I neste periode lag på øvre halvdel/midtsjikt.

Vi tapte 1-4 i begge de to siste men det var marginene (Bamfords offside bla.) som spilte inn, sammen med manglende Phillips/Rodrigo/Hernandez, og så skal man ikke se bort fra at vi er nyopprykket og mangler nok rutine fra nivået - det også spilte en rolle...

Inntil forrige kamp hadde vi litt 'goodwill' å gå på på tabellen men nå er vi nederst i midtsjiktet, selv om vi fortsatt har litt å gå på nedover (7 poeng til nedrykksstreken selv om Burnley har en kamp til gode).

Fortsetter vi en taps- og uavgjortrekke roter vi oss inn i noe negativt...

Men vil vi gjøre det?
Nå står n rekke med 9 seriekamper for tur før vi får en FAcup-runde. To skjer i midtuken, ellers er det helgekamper.

November
Arsenal (h)
Everton (b)

Desember
Chelsea (b)
West Ham (h)
Newcastle (h) (tirsdag)
Manchester U (b)
Burnley (h) Boxing Day
WBA (b)

Januar
Tottenham (b)


La oss ta november først, bare to kamper, på papiret gode lag.
Men vi bør strengt tatt ha tre poeng for ikke å sakke akterut ned mot en nedrykkskamp.

Det er gjerne mot slik motstand vi hever oss...

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« Svar #76 på: November 20, 2020, 18:27:39 »
Fire kamper for Leeds før neste international break.
Og det mot fire gode lag som vi like fullt skal kunne være på høyde med.
Resultatene fra disse fire kampene vil altså bestemme hvor vi plasserer oss på tabellen etter 8 runder - skal bli interessant...

Wolves og Leicester som kommer fra 7. og 5.plass i fjor og grei/god start i år, Villa som er kåret blant overgangsvinduets vinnere og er nok et annet lag enn det vi møtte for 15 mnd siden, og et Palace med en angrepsrekke et topplag verdig...

Wolves (H)
Aston Villa (A)
Leicester (H)
Crystal Palace (A)

7 poeng i første firekampersrekke, 8 denne gang da?
I så fall ikke full uttelling men decent enough...
Sesongen hittil har bestått av to fireperioders kamper mellom hver international break.

Vi kom godt fra den første, 211 og 7 poeng
Den neste gav 103 og 3 poeng.

I første periode hadde vi to tittelutfordrere og to bunnlag (må vel kunne kalle ShU det pr nå).
I neste periode lag på øvre halvdel/midtsjikt.

Vi tapte 1-4 i begge de to siste men det var marginene (Bamfords offside bla.) som spilte inn, sammen med manglende Phillips/Rodrigo/Hernandez, og så skal man ikke se bort fra at vi er nyopprykket og mangler nok rutine fra nivået - det også spilte en rolle...

Inntil forrige kamp hadde vi litt 'goodwill' å gå på på tabellen men nå er vi nederst i midtsjiktet, selv om vi fortsatt har litt å gå på nedover (7 poeng til nedrykksstreken selv om Burnley har en kamp til gode).

Fortsetter vi en taps- og uavgjortrekke roter vi oss inn i noe negativt...

Men vil vi gjøre det?
Nå står n rekke med 9 seriekamper for tur før vi får en FAcup-runde. To skjer i midtuken, ellers er det helgekamper.

November
Arsenal (h)
Everton (b)

Desember
Chelsea (b)
West Ham (h)
Newcastle (h) (tirsdag)
Manchester U (b)
Burnley (h) Boxing Day
WBA (b)

Januar
Tottenham (b)


La oss ta november først, bare to kamper, på papiret gode lag.
Men vi bør strengt tatt ha tre poeng for ikke å sakke akterut ned mot en nedrykkskamp.

Det er gjerne mot slik motstand vi hever oss...

Helt klart at vi snart må ta 3-poengere mot noen "gode" lag snart (vet ikke helt om Villa som vi slo er gode eller om de ramler nedover). Jeg føler at dette var realistisk i gamle PL da vi hadde fullsatte hjemmekamper på Ellland Road. Uten denne hjemmefordelen vet jeg sannelig ikke hvordan det går. Vi er bedre enn lagene bak oss. Både Arsenal og Everton har vist noe svakhet bakover i det siste. Fornøyd med 3 poeng på disse to kamper (en seier). Det er realistisk.

Josch

Sv: Leeds United sesongen 2020/2021
« Svar #77 på: November 22, 2020, 20:10:18 »
Ett poeng mot Arsenal. Det blir verre mot Everton. De har mer fres i angrepsspillet. 19 mål. Og en dyktig coach. Arsenal er hittil en skuffelse. Målforskjell 9-10 på  ni kamper! Vi burde slått dem. De er ikke noe topplag nå. Det spøker litt for Arteta.

Bromancer

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« Svar #78 på: November 22, 2020, 20:22:53 »
Det har vært dårlig med poeng i de 3 siste. Det nevnes mange årsaker her, men perioden har for vår del vært preget av mange skader og marginer i mot.

Sånt er forbigående. Vi kommer bare til å bli bedre og bedre framover! MOT madafakas!

Kato

Sv: Leeds United sesongen 2020/2021
« Svar #79 på: November 22, 2020, 20:25:22 »
Phillips tilbake betyr enormt mye.
 

HåvardK

Sv: Leeds United sesongen 2020/2021
« Svar #80 på: November 23, 2020, 11:03:11 »
Phillips tilbake betyr enormt mye.
Defensivt er vi noe helt annet med ham tilbake. Så at han fikk lusne seks poeng på børsen i Leeds Live (tror jeg det var). For meg var han MoM.

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« Svar #81 på: November 23, 2020, 17:24:27 »
Heheh...

Jon Howe
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I wonder if we've ever had more left-footed players in the first team squad? Meslier, Alioski, Davis, Cooper, Struijk, Poveda, Rodrigo, Costa, Harrison, Bamford, Raphinha.

And yet our first choice left back is right-footed..........Face with rolling eyes #lufc
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« Svar #82 på: November 26, 2020, 17:11:48 »
Alle våre desemberoppgjør har fått tv-dekning og har blitt flyttet - fem av seks en dag frem/tilbake...

Chelsea v Leeds United

Fixture date: Saturday 5th December 2020

New kick-off time: 8pm live on Sky Sports

Venue: Stamford Bridge

 

Leeds United v West Ham United

New fixture date: Friday 11th December 2020

New kick-off time: 8pm live on Sky Sports

Venue: Elland Road

 

Leeds United v Newcastle United

New fixture date: Wednesday 16th December 2020

New kick-off time: 6pm live on Amazon Prime Video

Venue: Elland Road

 

Manchester United v Leeds United

New fixture date: Sunday 20th December 2020

New kick-off time: 4:30pm live on Sky Sports

Venue: Old Trafford

 

Leeds United v Burnley

New fixture date: Sunday 27th December 2020

New kick-off time: 12pm live on Sky Sports

Venue: Elland Road

 

West Bromwich Albion v Leeds United

New fixture date: Tuesday 29th December 2020

New kick-off time: 6pm live on Amazon Prime Video

Venue: The Hawthorns
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« Svar #83 på: November 27, 2020, 05:58:25 »
Blir disse Amazon-kampene tilgjengelige på Sumo, tro?

gekon17

Sv: Leeds United sesongen 2020/2021
« Svar #84 på: November 27, 2020, 07:06:49 »
Blir disse Amazon-kampene tilgjengelige på Sumo, tro?
Alle PL kamper ut desember vises på sumo

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Sv: Leeds United sesongen 2020/2021
« Svar #85 på: November 27, 2020, 22:48:47 »
Vinner Leeds i morgen så har vi kontakt med 7-8. plass på tabellen.  Er man et midten-lag i Premier League så har man enten litt kontakt med bunnsjiktet eller litt kontakt med topp 6 sjiktet. Vinner man tre på rad så klatrer man ganske mye på den jevne tabellen.

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« Svar #86 på: November 27, 2020, 23:40:25 »
Newcastle med 3 nye poeng. Har ikke sett noen ha så mye flyt siden Steven Bradbury.......
"Welcome to, arguably, the noisiest ground in England"

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« Svar #87 på: November 29, 2020, 14:20:22 »
Fire kamper for Leeds før neste international break.
Og det mot fire gode lag som vi like fullt skal kunne være på høyde med.
Resultatene fra disse fire kampene vil altså bestemme hvor vi plasserer oss på tabellen etter 8 runder - skal bli interessant...

Wolves og Leicester som kommer fra 7. og 5.plass i fjor og grei/god start i år, Villa som er kåret blant overgangsvinduets vinnere og er nok et annet lag enn det vi møtte for 15 mnd siden, og et Palace med en angrepsrekke et topplag verdig...

Wolves (H)
Aston Villa (A)
Leicester (H)
Crystal Palace (A)

7 poeng i første firekampersrekke, 8 denne gang da?
I så fall ikke full uttelling men decent enough...
Sesongen hittil har bestått av to fireperioders kamper mellom hver international break.

Vi kom godt fra den første, 211 og 7 poeng
Den neste gav 103 og 3 poeng.



November
Arsenal (h)
Everton (b)

Desember
Chelsea (b)
West Ham (h)
Newcastle (h) (tirsdag)
Manchester U (b)
Burnley (h) Boxing Day
WBA (b)

Januar
Tottenham (b)


La oss ta november først, bare to kamper, på papiret gode lag.
Men vi bør strengt tatt ha tre poeng for ikke å sakke akterut ned mot en nedrykkskamp.

Det er gjerne mot slik motstand vi hever oss...
November etter landslagspausen gav 110 1-0 og 4 poeng.

Det gir følgende 'perioder'
211 og 7 poeng   (snitt 1,75 poeng)
103 og 3 poeng   (snitt 0.75 poeng)
110 og 4 poeng   (snitt 2 poeng)

Desember har 6 kamper:
Chelsea (b)
West Ham (h)
Newcastle (h) (tirsdag)
Manchester U (b)
Burnley (h) Boxing Day
WBA (b)

Det er vel bare mot Burnley og WBA vi skal være favoritter, tross vi har hatt jevne fighter mot WBA under Bielsa... Resten blir jevne oppgjør som kan bikke alle veier.
Tar vi Burnley/WBA har vi allerede 6 poeng fra denne perioden og et godt utgangspunkt mot å klare 1,75-2 poeng i snitt fra måneden...

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« Svar #88 på: November 29, 2020, 21:40:47 »
Vi er ganske underholdende å se på :)

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« Svar #89 på: November 30, 2020, 12:31:24 »
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Most chances created in the Premier League in 2020/21:

LEEDS (116)  8)
Liverpool (110)
Man City (110)
Chelsea (102)
Aston Villa (98)
Everton (95)
Man Utd (95)
Wolves (92)
Tottenham (91)
Fulham (89)

Effektiviteten foran mål er det som må bli bedre for å gjøre dette om fra en sesong som middelhavsfarere til kamp om CL-plass. Vi trenger altså 7,73 sjanser for å score et mål mens lagene på topp 5 Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester, Tottenham og Southampton ligger mellom 4 og 5 sjanser pr. mål. Her ligger altså nøkkelen til å klatre på tabellen. Svaret mitt er inn med Rodrigo på topp, det må prøves og Bamford bommer sjølsagt på alt for mange enkle målsjanser. Klich må også begynne å levere i boksen, men det tror eg kommer.