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Sv: Kamp vs West Bromwich Albion @the Hawthornes 29.12.20 kl 19
« Svar #150 på: Desember 30, 2020, 20:32:59 »
Fortsatt i en herlig seiersstemning etter den deilige og viktige seieren i går. Tror dette var farvel til redselen
for nedrykk. Tror fortsatt ikke vi blander oss opp blant de 8 som ligger øverst, litt for ujevne til det,
men at vi sammen med Soton, Wolves og West Ham vil kjempe om å være det laget som er nærmest
dem ser det lysere ut for.

Utrolig stolt over at gutta har slått tilbake, og til tross for en sjarmerende offensiv spillestil har vi hele 6 clean sheets, og det er bare 3 keepere som har flere en Meslier.
På de 6 kampene har vi 5-1-0 og 11 scoringer. Snitt på 1.83 scoringer pr kamp. Her har vi scoret 8 på 2 kamper mot Villa 3-0 og
WBA 5-0 som drar opp snittet. 3 kamper er vunnet 1-0 mot Sheffield, Everton og Burnley, samt 0-0 mot Arsenal. Dette viser at vi
i rimelig mange kamper tross alt klarer å spille rimelig trygt og sikkert, og har evnen til å holde tett bakover. Som de to siste sesongene
i CS viser vi at når vi scorer det første målet er vi vanskelige å slå. West Ham og Chelsea har dog klart det, ikke overraskende, da motstanden i år er langt tøffere.

Tar vi bolken hvor vi har sluppet inn akseptabelt antall mål, 1til 2, har vi her 4 kamper, med rekka 1-1-2 , begge tap
er ettmålstap ,målscore 7-6, her er også snittet snaue to scoringer, 1.75.

Så har vi de 6 kampene hvor det har rent inn... 2 kamper med 3 baklengs, 3 med 4 og 1 med 6. Rekka er 1-0-5, målscore 12-24.
24 av30 baklengs altså på disse 6. Samtidig har vi faktisk scoret 2 i snitt... Tyder kanskje på at vi spiller med veldig stor risiko da vi
kommer under.. Vil skyte inn at det er et par unntak her..vi ledet jo 4-1 mot Fulham, men tror vi tenkte job done her, og slapp de unødvendig inn i kampen. Mot Chelsea ledet vi også, men her var det kvalitetsforskjell, selv om det siste målet deres kom i sluttminuttet på kontring etter at vi tross alt presset dem på slutten.
Bielsa sa det også på pressern etter Man U kampen, at vi var rimelig jevne på de fleste parameterne, men at Man U fikk flere store sjanser utover kampen, da vi kastet mange fremover i håp om å pynte på resultatet. Vi spiller med veldig, veldig høy risiko da vi kommer under, og dette gir nok til tider ekstra mye rom for motstanderen. Vi gir oss aldri med å kjempe og løpe, selv ikke i det 90 min i kamper som alt er avgjort. Tror dette likevel kan være en bra tilnærming en å bare la kampene ebbe ut. All læring har med øving og gjentagelser å gjøre, og med å fortsatt spille med høy risiko og full innsats til tross for lost case kan dette komme til nytte i de kampene vi f.eks. har en faktisk mulighet til å stjele med oss poeng på slutten. Synes det sier mye om Bielsas offensive holdning til å ta risiko,
selv om muligheten til at resultatet blir styggere absolutt er størst..

Apropos offensiv holdning så vi også at Bielsa tenker litt annerledes en mange andre managere i kampen mot Burnley. Mot et fysisk sterkt lag som trykker oss, og der mange da kaster inn en ekstra stopper for luftstyrke, velger han Pablo, Poveda og Schack. (Vi hadde ikke mye annet på benken..men tross alt Casey og Davis..) Han velger vel å ikke forrykke systemet sitt. Var ikke mye trygg på cornere i mot på slutten med disse tre og Alioski (spentstig, men fortsatt lav..) Det gikk bra, men hadde det seilt inn et par cornere, kunne det blitt kritikk. Meslier tok jo ekstra stort ansvar også i disse situasjonene, så til tross for manglende cm på flere av våre gikk det veien.. :)

SupALeedS

Sv: Kamp vs West Bromwich Albion @the Hawthornes 29.12.20 kl 19
« Svar #151 på: Desember 30, 2020, 21:29:39 »
En fantastisk lag seier. Og at vi har 4 forskjellige målscorere viser også at vi også har flere game changere i laget. Raphinha er en klasse spiller syntes jeg, hakke vassere enn Costa .Dallas også hadde en meget god kamp sist . Alioski virker skikkelig påskrudd hver kamp, og bør forbli vår faste back fremover. Jeg spår en tøffere match 2 nyttårsdag , og vi må nok regne med å gå litt på tryne. Nå skal vi «bare» holde dette laget oppe nå, så vi kan bygge stein på stein til å bli et enda sterkere Leeds i fremtiden. Håper bare Bielsa blir noen sesonger til, eventuelt at dem legger ned nok penger til kloning av vår kjære Marcelo , for en jobb han har gjort. Hvem hadde trodd at spinkle Meslier skulle bli så god? Eller at Bamford plutselig bøtter mål i Premier League. Jeg tar av meg hatten for nettopp det. Virkelig.

Tenk deg scenarioet med enda en sesong og litt mer cash på denne klubben? Tenk det potensiale som ligger der fremme! MOT!

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Sv: Kamp vs West Bromwich Albion @the Hawthornes 29.12.20 kl 19
« Svar #152 på: Desember 31, 2020, 11:06:26 »
Leeds-Live pleier å ha en oppsummering av hva national media skriver om kampene til Leeds.
Denne gangen tar eg det med her. :)

'A gargantuan gulf in class'
We'll start with John Percy in the Daily Telegraph, who leads on the Big Sam versus Bielsa angle.

"The pragmatists versus the progressives? In truth, this was more like the paupers against the princes," he writes.

"It was supposed to be an intriguing clash of managerial styles between Sam Allardyce and Marcelo Bielsa, yet there was a gargantuan gulf in class as Leeds ripped West Bromwich Albion to pieces with high-tempo attacking and ruthless, clinical finishing.

"This was a chastening night for Allardyce as the memories of their brilliantly disciplined performance at Liverpool were dumped into Bielsa's bucket as Leeds secured their biggest away Premier League win since April 2003, when they thrashed Charlton 6-1.

"For all the criticism over Bielsa's cavalier approach at Manchester United, when it works their football is exhilarating, fearless and devastating - they have now scored 28 goals in their last six matches West Brom were blown away and remain in the bottom three, with Allardyce's evening doomed from the moment Romaine Sawyers gifted Leeds the opener with a comical own goal from 25 yards."

'A thrilling style few teams can rival'
More praise follows from the Guardian's Paul Doyle.

"These clubs graduated together from the Championship last season but now look worlds apart. Leeds have enriched the Premier League with a thrilling style few teams can rival - least of all West Brom, who came into this game hoping to build on Sunday's honourable draw with Liverpool but found themselves royally outclassed.

"The scoring began with a ludicrous own goal by Romaine Sawyers but after that Leeds gave a spellbinding demonstration of intense and imaginative attacking. To witness it was to be uplifted. Unless, of course, you support West Brom. Or manage them.

"This was billed as a meeting of minds like none previously seen in the top flight, with caricatures depicting the confrontation between Marcelo Bielsa and Sam Allardyce comparable to Don Quixote v Don Corleone. Bogus as that was, there is no doubt the managers promote different visions. But Allardyce, who is still assessing what he has inherited at the Hawthorns, could not believe his eyes when he saw how his team fell behind after nine minutes.

"Sawyers received the ball 25 yards out and apparently got flustered as two Leeds players hared towards him. He turned around and played the ball blindly back to where he presumed his goalkeeper would be. But Sam Johnstone was standing several yards to the left of the goal and he and Sawyers could only watch aghast as the ball rolled into the unguarded net.

"Following Jake Livermore's red card in Allardyce's first home match in charge - the 3-0 defeat by Aston Villa - and Matheus Pereira's dismissal in Slaven Bilic's final home match - the 5-1 defeat by Crystal Palace - this was a preposterous new form of self-destruction by West Brom.

""It is a huge blow when something like that happens, particularly with the position we're in, you start thinking 'oh, no, what's next?'," Allardyce said.

"That goal highlighted the contrast. Whereas West Brom seemed sluggish and confused, Leeds were beautifully in synch. With Kalvin Phillips conducting in midfield, Leeds passed, dribbled and darted around dumbfounded hosts."

'It could easily have been 10 goals'
In The i, Tim Rich also touches on the gap in class between Leeds and last night's hosts.

"Ten points separated Leeds United and West Bromwich Albion last season - last night it could easily have been 10 goals as Marcelo Bielsa's side continued their reputation as the Premier League's entertainers.

"Five months on from their promotion from the Championship, it looked like there were light years between these teams as Leeds completed their biggest Premier League victory for more than 17 years.

"A farcical own goal from Romaine Sawyers gave Leeds a fortunate advantage, but Bielsa's side then ripped the heart out of hapless Albion with three goals in 10 minutes before halftime.

"And it led to a fierce attack on his own side from the new Albion head coach Sam Allardyce.

""I see inconsistency on a massive scale," he fumed. "They have to show more fight, more determination and produce more quality.

""Whatever we think we are, it's not good enough. Leeds didn't only play us off the field, they ran us off the field."

"It put Bielsa's side up to 11th but he refuses to admit they have established themselves in the Premier League.

""For us we have only been in this league for 16 games so there are many tests we have to pass before we can say we belong in this league," said the Argentinian.

"It all started in fortuitous fashion in the ninth minute, but there was no doubting the gulf between the teams."

'The purists had overwhelmed the pragmatists'
The Times' Tom Roddy also starts by underline how Bielsa's style trumped that of Allardyce's.

"At the final whistle, Marcelo Bielsa went for a handshake and Sam Allardyce met it with a fist. This meeting of football's opposites had ended with a resounding winner and the purists had overwhelmed the pragmatists.

"For almost the entirety of the night, Leeds United dominated and disassembled West Bromwich Albion, yet the damage was done with three goals in nine first-half minutes that meant Allardyce's side went into the interval 4-0 down and suffering shock.

""The first half put a doubt in my mind about how much dedication they had," the West Brom manager said. "Leeds didn't only beat us, they played us off the pitch."

"The scoresheet showed West Brom's self-inflicted damage with another own goal, now a league-high four for the season, and yet Leeds deserved both the scoreline and the points. They dazzled West Brom with attacks from all angles, ending with seven different players involved in the goals.

"Bielsa's side have quickly become a joy of the Premier League with their free-flowing style. It has produced results like this but also left them susceptible to concede, arriving at The Hawthorns tied with West Brom for most goals conceded in the league. They left with back-to-back clean sheets for the first time this season."

'Pure arson'
The Mirror's Dave Armitage looks at the job facing Allardyce.

"Big Sam Allardyce has bult a reputation for firefighting but the abject West Brom display he supervised last night was pure arson.

"It was hard to believe that the side that surrendered so meekly to

"Marco Bielsa's Leeds was the same side that plundered a point at Anfield two days earlier.

"The talk after Anfield on Sunday was of another Big Sam-inspired escape but those words were made to look ridiculous last night.

"Things went pearshaped for the Baggies even before kick-off and then just got progressively worse. They lost Kieran Gibbs in the warm-up after he was struck by a stray ball and then fell behind after just nine minutes through a comical Romaine Sawyers own goal.

"When Sawyers gave the visitors an unexpected legup, Allardyce could have been forgiven for wondering why he abandoned his pipe and slippers to get back in the dugout.

"His face was a picture - dismay blended with a sense of apprehension that he might be in for a long, cold night. He wasn't wrong.

"These two sides went into the game with the Premier League's leakiest defences, 30 goals apiece conceded. And Allardyce's best-laid plans flew right out of the window when his side shot themselves in the foot so early on.

"Keeper Sam Johnstone had moved out wide of his goal anticipating a backpass as Leeds shut off the options. Grady Diangana shunted the ball to Sawyers and the midf i e l d e r , playing his back-pass blind, could only watch in agony as the ball rolled into the empty net with Johnstone totally stranded. You wouldn't think it could get much worse but it did. Far worse."


'Leeds were merciless'
IN the Daily Mail, Tom Collomosse leads on the impact of Romaine Sawyers' comical early own goal.

"Big Sam against Marcelo Bielsa was billed as the ultimate clash of styles but not even the greatest managers can prevent the kind of howler that set Leeds on their way to this spectacular demolition of West Bromwich Albion.

"With nine minutes on the clock, Albion midfielder Romaine Sawyers received the ball on the edge of his penalty area, and instead of playing it forward, turned it back to where he thought his goalkeeper Sam Johnstone was waiting. Needless to say, Johnstone was not there and the ball hurtled into the West Brom net.

"It would have been a bad error in a kids' kickabout down the local park. In the Premier League, it is unforgivable. Leeds were merciless in making Albion pay and they were 4-0 up by half-time through strikes Ezgjan Alioski, Jack Harrison and Rodrigo, and Raphinha added the fifth with 18 minutes remaining. Sam Allardyce knows he must act in the transfer window to keep Albion in the division, and they are six points adrift of safety.

"Allardyce, a manager who prides himself on defensive solidity, has seen his team let in nine goals in three games. He questioned the fitness and dedication of his players, saying: 'If I pointed a gun at their head and said I'm going to shoot you they'd run as fast as they need to. On the fitness levels of Leeds and us there was a big difference.

'"I asked the players to look after themselves even better than they are doing away from the club but I'm yet to see whether they have dedicated themselves more. Tonight put a lot of doubt in my mind about their dedication. Leeds didn't only play us off the field, they ran us off the field.'

"This was Leeds' biggest victory in the top flight since April 5, 2003, when they won 6-1 at Charlton. They have claimed back-to-back wins and scored six without reply since Bielsa's approach was pilloried following their 6-2 thrashing at Manchester United 10 days ago. He said: 'The team was very efficient, scoring five goals from eight chances, even if one of the goals wasn't through our own doing. We have had a lot of highs and lows, only two games ago we had an important defeat and our idea is to play in a consistent manner.'"


'Leeds sliced through Albion with embarrassing ease'
Finally, here is Graeme Bryce in The Sun.

"Marcelo Bielsa's Leeds handed West Brom a thrashing to underline the task facing Sam Allardyce.

"There was to be no repeat of the Baggies heroics at Anfield as Big Sam's side crashed to their biggest defeat of the season.


"For the third time this term in the league Albion leaked five goals.

"This was the biggest home defeat of Allardyce's Prem career and one he will find hard to recover from quickly, with Arsenal next up at The Hawthorns on Saturday.

"Leeds, meanwhile, are swiftly becoming the Prem's great entertainers and sliced through Albion with embarrassing ease.

"Sam's blundering boys shot themselves in the foot at the start.

"Poor Romaine Sawyers hung his head in shame after he produced the mother of all blunders to gift Leeds their opener after nine minutes."


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Sv: Kamp vs West Bromwich Albion @the Hawthornes 29.12.20 kl 19
« Svar #153 på: Januar 01, 2021, 17:36:04 »
Har savnet en som Saiz helt siden han dro , men når jeg ser Raphinhas mål , trenger jeg ikke lengre savne Saiz.
Bare holder dem på avstand med finter og gjør det sjøl.  Har sett på målene flere ganger , det er så fin juleferiesyssel.💪🏽
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