Skrevet av Emne: Luscos-mail til dommeren?  (Lest 3167 ganger)

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Dennis

Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« på: September 30, 2007, 00:04:42 »
Sitter her med noen øl innabords og alt det, men vi har tydeligvis blitt forferdelig urettferdig behandlig (igjen) i dag.

Skal vi sende en mail, med underskrifter til FA (som selvsagt ikke hjelper oss) evt. til dommeren dersom han virkelig har dømt så elendig som jeg leser her? Noen må jo ha ment at vi fortjener å bli behandlet slik!

Om det hjelper? Nei, kanskje ikke, men det kan kanskje hjelpe til å blåse ut litt frustrasjon?

Eller er jeg helt på jordet?

PS! Jeg tror ikke vi vil ha noe nytte av dette, men jeg føler at jeg må gjøre noe; vi får tydeligvis så ufortjent behandling som er mulig. Det kan også vise at Leeds-fansen ikke lar seg knekke!

- Dennis

Hva er poenget med kort corner? [}:)]
« Siste redigering: September 30, 2007, 00:09:56 av Mr Kaizer »
Marching on together!

Per-Stian

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #1 på: September 30, 2007, 00:11:36 »
Reknar med Wise, Poyet og Bates tek seg av den jobben. Men meget forståeleg at du føler deg forrådt av dommaren idag.

Dennis

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #2 på: September 30, 2007, 00:12:43 »
Forrådt? Rævpult sier vi i Stokke [}:)]

- Dennis

Hva er poenget med kort corner? [}:)]
Marching on together!

h.b

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Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #3 på: September 30, 2007, 00:28:05 »
Har du rævpult Roar Stokke. Visste ikke at du hadde slike lyster[:D]
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Kaizer

Forrådt? Rævpult sier vi i Stokke [}:)]

- Dennis

Hva er poenget med kort corner? [}:)]





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GeirO

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #4 på: September 30, 2007, 02:02:04 »
Vi er vel forrådt av tre stk i dag: Dommer, Kandol og Beckford.
MOT

sveifors

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #5 på: September 30, 2007, 02:39:21 »
quote:
Originally posted by GeirO

Vi er vel forrådt av tre stk i dag: Dommer, Kandol og Beckford.



Skjønner ikke dette, Tres og Becks var litt urutinerte ja, men som det ble referert i kampen " Dette ville gitt dem et gult kort hver".

Hadde dommeren vært konsekvent hadde også Gillingham fått utvist spillere. Ikke legg hele skylden på disse ungutta som har berget 3 poeng i 7 kamper på rad
Sveifors

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Eriksen55

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #6 på: September 30, 2007, 08:19:09 »
Nå er det vel ingen som har sett kampen...og radion er ikke nøytral. på Highlightsene fra kampen blir nok situasjonene belyst og da får vi svaret.

Kandol fikk for munnbruk og klapping til dommern...og beckford så vidt jeg vet å sparke ballen etter at dommern har blåst....da ligger vel skylden mer hos disse 2 enn hos dommern.

Men svaret får vi vel i morgen eller på mandag:)

god natt.

Leeds04

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #7 på: September 30, 2007, 16:32:22 »
Vil Wise gå videre med dette?
Kan dommere si ting de ikke selv godtar?????

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/latest-national-sport/Wise-claims-ref-abused-him.3245252.jp

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"Why settle for more, when you can settle for less"

lojosang

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #8 på: September 30, 2007, 20:20:27 »
Leeds er ikke de første som klager på denne mannen

"He missed two absolute stonewall penalty decisions."
"He had an Army FA badge on and he spoke to the players like an Army officer talking down to his minions.
I would like to see how he handles Football League players refereeing like that.
When you get to Conference level you expect to see someone who is competent."
http://archive.thisishampshire.net/2006/2/27/99284.html


Fra samme artikkel:
McDermid, meanwhile, is no stranger to controversy. Two years ago he created Daily Echo headlines by dismissing Havant pair James Taylor and Neil Champion in a stormy Hampshire Senior Cup quarter-final at Fareham. He also dished out seven bookings and, like at Exeter, had to be escorted to the dressing rooms by stewards after the tie.
And only last month McDermid was involved in more controversy at Crawley's home game against York. With time running out, a visiting player handled inside the penalty area - only for the official to whistle for full-time rather than a spot-kick!
Salisbury might never want to hear McDermid's name again, but they might - no Army referee has ever progressed to the prestigious level 1 category, but the Scot is currently at level 2.


"Referee Danny McDermid showed Karl Duguid red before realising he had not been booked and changed it to yellow and he also disallowed three goals."
"It was his first Championship game and it was a bit much for him," Kelly said.
"Everyone in the stadium knew something was coming and that penalty decision has changed the game. It's his first game but it's our living."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/6236719.stm


Vår egen John Sheridan sier:
"I'm very glad I don't play any more because the refs never seem to have the whistle out of their mouths. They want to be the centre of attention all the time."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/oldham_athletic/s/226/226248_ref_receives_sheridan_blast.html


"referee Danny McDermid, a man fast developing a reputation for turning small fires into large conflagrations by applying liberal quantities of petrol."

HAMPSHIRE referee Danny McDermid was at the centre of the controversy which surrounded the end of Salisbury City's FA Trophy dream.

Steve Thompson calls Danny McDermid the worst referee he has ever seen after Notts County's defeat by MK Dons

BOSS Kevin Bond refused to point the finger of blame at referee Danny McDermid after Cherries had exited the FA Cup in controversial fashion.

Torquay were not happy with referee Danny McDermid’s decision to award Town a penalty and they were enraged five minutes from time

LATICS boss John Sheridan vented his frustration at referee Danny McDermid after watching Athletic lose 1-0 at Yeovil Town

Oldham boss John Sheridan was furious with referee Danny McDermid for not booking Chris Cohen after the Glovers man's challenge felled McDonald

Referee Danny McDermid's controversial penalty decision, for an alleged push on Swindon striker Lee Peacock by Adam Murray in the 62nd minute

trouble markers Anthony Gerrard and Ian Roper throughout an opening half that was only livened by the erratic antics of London referee Danny McDermid

But referee Danny McDermid waved away furious Bournemouth protests when the goal was ruled out.

League newcomer Danny McDermid dismissed both Matt Somner and Alan White, leaving Thompson to blast the referee for his performance
Steve Thompson calls Danny McDermid the worst referee he has ever seen after ... Notts County manager

The Magpies chief described Danny McDermid's showing in Saturday's 3-2 defeat to MK Dons as "the worst I've seen in 30 years of professional football

Torquay have been reported to the Football Association by referee Danny McDermid following an incident after Saturday's 1-0 home defeat by Swindon

He was furious that referee Danny McDermid refused to award a penalty after Ady Williams tangled with Jordan Robertson inside the area five minutes from

BOSS Kevin Bond refused to point the finger of blame at referee Danny McDermid after Cherries had exited the FA Cup in controversial fashion.

John Martin stepped up and converted the spot kick but for some inexplicable reason Referee Mr. McDermid insisted it be retaken

The referee, Danny McDermid, might have known he was in for a funny old afternoon when he awarded County a penalty early on only to be alerted to the fact that the linesman had already flagged for offside.

Leicester boss Rob Kelly blamed rookie referee Danny McDermid for costing his side two points in a controversial 1-1 draw with Colchester.
http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t31441-50.html


Tenker det holder. Mannen burde tydeligvis fradømmes retten til å være innenfor femti meter av et hvilket som helst blåseintrument, samt forlate England hver gang det spilles fotballkamp.

- Leif Olav
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Per-Stian

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #9 på: September 30, 2007, 20:27:23 »
quote:
Originally posted by lojosang

Mannen burde tydeligvis fradømmes retten til å være innenfor femti meter av et hvilket som helst blåseintrument, samt forlate England hver gang det spilles fotballkamp.




Haha[:D]

Sheridan

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #10 på: September 30, 2007, 20:33:56 »
Lorimer hadde noen fine igår:

" I can say it - this referee is a complete idiot! "
" The referee looked like he got injured there - but I wont feel sorry for him"


Jon R

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #11 på: Oktober 01, 2007, 22:36:24 »
Kanskje vi skulle oversette denne til engelsk og sende han? [8D]

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Fort deg bort å ta han
Det er like godt som sex
å banke en stakkars faan

Er det ikke deilig å ha noen å hate
Føles det ikke godt å ha noen å hate
Er det ikke herlig å slå dem flate
Er det ikke deilig å ha noen å hate

Hør lyden av nakker som knekker
Hør lyden av kjøtt som sprekker
Det er bare å følge fingeren som peker
Dit hvor de voksne leker


Jon R.
« Siste redigering: Oktober 01, 2007, 22:37:23 av Jon R »
Jon R.

Dennis

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #12 på: Oktober 01, 2007, 23:16:32 »
Denne tråden ble lagd i et småbrisent og ikke minst glohett øyeblikk, etter å ha tapt seieren på overtid. En mail til dommeren hadde kun vært bruk av papir (eller strøm?) og ikke hjulpet noe.



- Dennis

Hva er poenget med kort corner? [}:)]
Marching on together!

Svend Anders

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #13 på: Oktober 01, 2007, 23:20:06 »
quote:
Originally posted by Jon R

Kanskje vi skulle oversette denne til engelsk og sende han? [8D]

"Noen å hate" ( Raga Rockers)

Han der ække sånn som deg
Fort deg bort å ta han
Det er like godt som sex
å banke en stakkars faan

Er det ikke deilig å ha noen å hate
Føles det ikke godt å ha noen å hate
Er det ikke herlig å slå dem flate
Er det ikke deilig å ha noen å hate

Hør lyden av nakker som knekker
Hør lyden av kjøtt som sprekker
Det er bare å følge fingeren som peker
Dit hvor de voksne leker


Jon R.




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SA,
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B-m

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #14 på: Oktober 02, 2007, 00:08:19 »
quote:
Originally posted by Sheridan

Lorimer hadde noen fine igår:

" I can say it - this referee is a complete idiot! "




Var artig når han sa det! hovekommentatoren: The referee is acting like a clown....lorimer kommer inn med : "He's a complete idiot!!!!"
Må si jeg har sansen for Lorimer og Hunter som sidekommentator!  [:D]

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RoarG

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #15 på: Oktober 02, 2007, 04:36:07 »
Joa, men nå er vel d'herrer Lorimer og Hunter helt nøytrale
quote:
Originally posted by B-m

quote:
Originally posted by Sheridan

Lorimer hadde noen fine igår:

" I can say it - this referee is a complete idiot! "




Var artig når han sa det! hovekommentatoren: The referee is acting like a clown....lorimer kommer inn med : "He's a complete idiot!!!!"
Må si jeg har sansen for Lorimer og Hunter som sidekommentator!  [:D]



[:D]

Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
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kjelvi

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #16 på: Oktober 03, 2007, 15:52:22 »
Danny McDermid 2 Swindon Town 1

Swindon Town fans may now sympathise with Dennis Wise after referee Danny McDermid helped secure Swansea City's 2-1 win over Swindon this evening at the Liberty Stadium.
Danny McDermid is the referee that sent off both of Leeds' strikers against Gillingham and allegedly swore at Wise (good on the referee).
Whilst Swindon were by no means brilliant and probably did not deserve to win a draw would have been a good result.
After Swansea's win Town drop to 9th in the League One table.

swindon.vitalfootball.co.uk

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Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #17 på: Oktober 03, 2007, 20:35:25 »
Hmmm- dyktig dommer ser det ut til...[:D]! Mannen er nok ikke svart kledd uten grunn, han er sendt fotballen fra h...![}:)]
Yeboahs vitne

Volda69

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #18 på: Oktober 04, 2007, 01:25:56 »
Får berre håpe Leeds unngår han resten av sesongen. I så fall bør vel laget legge inn protest før kampen.

MOT
MOT

Erik_

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #19 på: Oktober 04, 2007, 01:28:25 »
Trodde skotter var røffe og tålte tøff språkbruk jeg. Ja, jeg vet du er røff, Jon. Sikter til pingla McDermid nå. [:)]

Sendt mailen, Dennis?
« Siste redigering: Oktober 04, 2007, 01:28:47 av Enrique »

Dennis

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #20 på: Oktober 04, 2007, 01:36:27 »
Nei, har ikke gjort det, Enrique. Gikk ikke "videre" med det, kan du si.




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Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #21 på: Oktober 04, 2007, 02:30:37 »
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-united-news/Wise-charged-and-FA-investigate.3256330.jp

Wise; f... you ref!!!
Mc Dermid; no, f... you Dennis!
Wise; f... you twice then ref!
Mc Dermid; f... you allover Dennis!
...and so on,and so on...!
Yeboahs vitne

kjelvi

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #22 på: Oktober 05, 2007, 18:24:57 »

Phil Hay's spalte i YEP:

Wise right to seek peace
(By Phil Hay - Inside Elland Road)

Unless he is striving for notoriety – and with certain referees you can never be certain – Danny McDermid will be feeling a little sorry for himself this weekend.
It was bad enough that McDermid was chased from the pitch at Gillingham by a shower of missiles last Saturday – an occurrence which is generally reserved for fixtures on the continent and in South America – but his involvement in Swindon Town's defeat to Swansea City on Tuesday evening did not, by all accounts, constitute a return to form.
This has been one of those weeks for McDermid, who is clearly as human as the rest of us.
The Football Association are extremely supportive of their officials, but it is notable that the Londoner has not been included in the list of appointments for this weekend's Football League fixtures. Later this month he will be asked by the FA if and why, in the aftermath of Leeds United's 1-1 draw at Gillingham, he ordered Dennis Wise to go forth and multiply.
United's manager being who he is, there has been some discussion over whether Wise taking offence at obscenities is the pot calling the kettle black.
The FA, if they act appropriately, will not even consider that.
The issue over McDermid's language is straightforward enough – if the abuse of match officials contravenes the governing body's rules then referees cannot break those regulations and keep a straight face. Traffic police do not maintain their integrity by gaining convictions for speeding.
But the post-match altercation between Wise and McDermid was a minor extension of the real problem on Saturday, and diverted attention from a more relevant a question of how the appointment of referees is decided.
It went largely unreported last season that United's final home game against Ipswich Town on April 28 was originally due to be officiated by Nigel Miller.
Miller was the referee who Wise had wanted to throttle at Southend a month earlier; the game with Ipswich was the point at which Leeds were destined to let go of their Championship status.
To even consider Miller's involvement seemed inexplicable, and the decision was duly reversed. Cheshire's Michael Jones took the job on and did so professionally in difficult circumstances.
Saturday's fixture at Gillingham did not carry the gravitas of April 28, but it might still have occurred to someone to ask whether the circumstances were right for a referee of McDermid's experience.
Leeds were carrying seven straight victories, and Gillingham were carrying the weight of a very poor start to the season.
There was also predictable tension between United's supporters and Gillingham chairman Paul Scally, which helped to turn the atmosphere sour.
It was not, at first glance, a fair scenario for a referee with only one season in the Football League behind him.
McDermid is extremely inexperienced, which is no reason to criticise him.
The most proficient referees started somewhere and somehow, and English football is not so flush with officials that is can afford to toss willing participants by the wayside whenever the mood takes it.
Wise himself would not take any pleasure from seeing McDermid's confidence or enthusiasm destroyed by last Saturday's game.
It is fair to say that McDermid's decision-making at Gillingham was almost defensible – all four of the yellow cards shown to Jermaine Beckford and Tresor Kandol would certainly stand up when tested against the FA's own regulations. But the context of a game which had no obvious malice meant that only Kandol's booking for sarcastic applause was truly necessary. McDermid clearly knows the rules; Saturday was a lesson in what happens when they are applied to professional football without common sense.
Leeds, however, should be careful. It is not altogether surprising, having been forced to beat a rapid retreat by a hail of objects, that McDermid snapped in the tunnel, and you wonder what England's refereeing fraternity will have made of that. This certainly seems like an appropriate time for Wise to follow through with his plan to meet with Keith Hackett, the general manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Board.
Wise should raise the issues concerning him, and remind Hackett that United's disciplinary record has, with the exception of the game at Gillingham, been respectable so far this season.
Hackett, meanwhile, might like to proffer a little advice as to how Leeds can help to prevent a repeat of the problems witnessed at Priestfield. Then they can bury the hatchet.
It would be beneficial if clubs and officials engaged in meaningful dialogue more regularly, rather than settling their grievances in press conferences and behind the closed doors of disciplinary hearings.
McDermid was the wrong referee at the wrong time, and no more than that.
There is little sense in looking for an agenda.
If Wise and Hackett can smooth the water quickly then so much the better; a running battle with officials this season is not what United need.

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-united-columnists/Wise-right-to-seek-peace.3262470.jp?articlepage=1

Jon R

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #23 på: Oktober 05, 2007, 23:10:40 »
"If Wise and Hackett can smooth the water quickly then so much the better; a running battle with officials this season is not what United need.
"

Som jeg skulle sagt det selv. [8D]


Jon R.
Jon R.

kjelvi

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #24 på: Oktober 07, 2007, 17:58:05 »
Wise and Terry should be prepared to take as good as they give, says Poll
Graham Poll: The official line

Zero tolerance to foul language may be the only answer following Dennis Wise's complaint that he was sworn at by Danny McDermid after abusing the referee.
The FA are duty bound to investigate any allegations of misconduct. So the news that Leeds manager Wise and the referee are both being investigated should not raise too many eyebrows, even when you take into account the personnel involved.
Wise was a character as a player, a loveable rogue who, despite his excesses, was easy to warm to and his managerial style certainly appears successful this season.
Dennis lives by the principle that you should give as good as you get and only dish it out if you can take it back.
But no matter how badly Wise felt that McDermid performed in Leeds' draw with Gillingham last Saturday, he should have kept his comments to himself.
Now each has reported the other for swearing, which seems like a playground tit-for-tat spat.
Foul language is no longer an offence unless it is offensive, insulting or obscene.
Wise has allegedly claimed that McDermid told him to f*** off.
I don't want to belittle this but I never saw Wise as the shrinking violet likely to be offended so easily.
Apparently, there were five witnesses to support Wise's claim and if McDermid did swear at him then he deserves to be punished. Whatever the provocation there can be no excuses for using foul language.
Last year I was falsely accused and subsequently cleared of swearing at John Terry. Later in the season Phil Dowd was accused of abusing Wigan players. Now the suddenly puritanical Wise puts his head above the parapet!
Referees should not lower their standards, despite immense provocation. This unhealthy trend should lead to referees drawing a line under the foul language debate.
So, be offended when a player swears on the field of play and send him off. Be insulted any time a manager swears in the technical area and dismiss him. Both actions would be correct, according to the laws.
Strong measures, but if Wise, Terry and Co want to raise the bar in moral standards they should be prepared to take as good as they give!

Daily Mail

kjelvi

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #25 på: Oktober 09, 2007, 18:02:15 »
Wise set to meet ref's chief after Gills furore

Leeds United boss Dennis Wise is facing a possible touchline ban after landing his third misconduct charge of the year on Wednesday.
Wise has been charged by the Football Association after being sent from the dug-out during last Saturday's controversial League One game at Gillingham.
United's manager sat in the stands during the second half of the 1-1 draw at Priestfield after clashing with referee Danny McDermid over the first-half dismissal of striker Tresor Kandol.
Wise has until October 18 to respond to the accusation that he broke FA rule E3 by using foul and abusive language towards the official, but he has asked the governing body to pursue a complaint of his own after accusing McDermid of swearing at him after full-time.
McDermid incurred Wise's wrath by dismissing both Kandol and Jermaine Beckford for two bookable offences, and a heated atmosphere led to unsavoury scenes at the final whistle as McDermid and his linesmen were pelted with object thrown by United's supporters.
The FA have confirmed that they are investigating Wise's complaint, and United's manager is also planning to meet with referees chief Keith Hackett to discuss McDermid's performance.
Wise said: "I've spoken to Keith, and told him that I need to see him.
"I've got a number of issues I want to discuss and I think it's best for everybody if I can do that.
"I wasn't happy with certain things on Saturday, and they need to be addressed.
"I'm not into slaughtering people and I used to have a good rapport with a lot of referees when I was a player, but this is something I need to do."
Wise was accused of similar offences by the FA during the second half of last season, and it is not clear whether he will fight his latest charge after admitting swearing at McDermid at half-time during his post-match press conference at Priestfield.
But he insisted McDermid had told him to "f-off" as he approached the London official at full-time, and said: "There was no need for him to say that.
"When a referee tells a manager to f-off after a game, it's not acceptable."
A statement from the FA read: "The charge relates to Wise's conduct towards referee Danny McDermid at half-time during the game against Gillingham.
"The FA can confirm that it has received a complaint from Leeds United regarding the conduct of the referee towards Wise after the conclusion of the game.
"This is now under consideration."

YEP

kjelvi

Re: Luscos-mail til dommeren?
« Svar #26 på: Oktober 09, 2007, 18:07:21 »
Leeds United assistant manager Gustavo Poyet has denied a Football Association charge of improper conduct relating to comments made about referee Andy D'Urso following the club's Carling Cup defeat to Portsmouth in August.
Poyet pleaded not guilty to an alleged breach of FA rule E3 after claiming D'Urso was staging a vendetta against both United's assistant and boss Wise.
The Uruguayan has declined the opportunity to request a personal hearing.

YEP