KAMP: vs. Carlisle 20/9

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Asbjørn

VIKTIG beskjed angående kampen.

Kan noen alarmere Sir Olsen, formerly known as Øisten Forkynneren, om kamptidspunkt på lørdag. Jeg er livredd han logger inn kl 15 engelsk tid og finner forumet riimelig øde & forlatt, og så vil han skumme i sinne og vrede de kommende uker om at ingen hadde avklart for ham om at kampen spilles kl 13:15 norsksengelsk tid. :)

;D

Tell me - I've got to know
Tell me - Tell me before I go
Does that flame still burn, does that fire still glow
Or has it died out and melted like the snow
Tell me  Tell me

Dylan

LEO

Delph er krystal klar i første elveren. ;D
 

kjelvi

Spotlight on Carlisle United

YEP chief football writer Phil Hay takes a close look at Carlisle United ahead of Leeds United's clash at Brunton Park tomorrow.

The Gaffer
John Ward. Carlisle's manager enhanced his reputation by taking the club to the play-off semi-finals last season with a slender squad and a limited budget and there is strong expectation in Cumbria that he will do the same again.
The board responsible for appointing Ward in October 2007 deserved little credit for ruthlessly sacking his predecessor, Neil McDonald, but their chosen replacement has made a big success of his job.
Carlisle have lost only 15 of Ward's 51 matches and their home record last season was the best in League One.
After a managerial career spanning 17 years and six clubs, Ward is fast approaching his 600th match as a Football League boss.

The Danger
Danny Graham. The man responsible for denying Jermaine Beckford the League One player-of-the-month award for August, Graham is already on course to better the 17-goal haul he produced for Carlisle during the 2007-08 term.
The striker â€" a loan signing for Leeds United from Middlesbrough in 2006 â€" opened his account this term with two goals against Crewe last month and followed up with the first hat-trick of his professional career during Carlisle's 4-1 defeat of Yeovil on August 30.
Graham has claimed six goals in total, all of which have come in league games at Brunton Park. He scored twice against Leeds at Elland Road last season, including in the first leg of a dramatic play-off semi-final.

The Form
Carlisle suffered their first defeat of the campaign last Saturday at Scunthorpe United, but a narrow 2-1 loss at a ground where few teams are likely to fair well will not cause Ward excessive concern.
The Cumbrians had started the campaign with four wins from their first five matches, a record blemished only by a goalless draw at Leyton Orient, and they were joint top of the division with present leaders Oldham Athletic before the defeat at Glanford Park.
Once again Carlisle look strong at home, where they have averaged three goals a game so far, and Leeds have the task of ending their 100 per cent record at Brunton Park.

The Odds
Leeds are slight favourites tomorrow at 7-5 with William Hill. Carlisle are 8-5 and the draw is 21-10.

The Whistler
Chris Foy. It is no surprise that a select group member has been chosen for tomorrow's game in Cumbria, given the relative ambitions of the two clubs involved.
Foy started out as a referee in 1983, joining the Football League's ranks 11 years later, and is well established as a top-flight official.
He was selected to officiate Leeds' visit to Swindon last season â€" one of only three sub-Championship matches he took charge of â€" and was also involved in Dennis Wise's first match as United boss, against Southend United on October 28, 2006.
Foy issued a total of 116 yellow cards and six reds in 37 games last season.

YEP

martind

Delph er nok sikker i startelleveren. Noe annet ville overraske meg veldig hvertfall...

Håper på ny seier. Skal i bryllup og får ikke fulgt med. Håpløs planlegging av meg egentlig. Kunne jo bare sagt nei til å være med:)
MOT!! We are Leeds!

kjelvi

Howson: United on victory mission


Jonny Howson

The second leg of last season's League One play-off semi-final between Leeds United and Carlisle is a night which Jonathan Howson's family do not plan to forget.
His brother has watched replays of the match so frequently that he can recite almost word-for-word the live commentary provided by Sky Sports as Howson ran on to Dougie Freedman's deft touch and swept a low shot beyond the reach of Carlisle goalkeeper Kieran Westwood to decide the tie.
Howson celebrated his 20th birthday four days before the end of last season and he has many years in which to piece together a scrapbook of memories, but his winning goal at Brunton Park on May 15 is unrivalled as his finest hour.
The midfielder came of age on that warm evening in Cumbria, displaying not only his ability to influence and decide a crucial game but also his maturity in reacting to a personal performance in the first leg which Howson admits was woeful.
He came to understand the age-old saying that a player is as good as his last game, and that realisation has struck him again this season.
Howson was one of Gary McAllister's favoured 11 players at the start of this campaign but surrendered his position after three league games. In that respect he was not alone â€" of the line-up named against Scunthorpe United last month, only four of the individuals selected also started at Swindon Town last Saturday â€" but the speed of Howson's move to the bench was particularly surprising.
The midfielder is loath to succumb to 'second season syndrome' â€" the failure of a player to repeat or better his first full year as a senior professional â€" and his confidence does not appear to have suffered. Demotion to the bench, he argues, is a valuable and worthwhile challenge from a manager under whom several players cannot even establish themselves as substitutes.
"It might be true that my second full season was always going to be harder than my first," Howson said. "The thing you're told most often by your coaches and your manager is never to relax and never to feel too comfortable. It's good advice.
"I don't think I was complacent, but I wasn't performing as well as I can. I'll hold my hands up to that, and the manager was right to move things around.
"He made a lot of changes for our (Carling Cup) game against Crystal Palace and the team that night was superb. It wouldn't have been very fair to say well done to them and then leave them out for our league games.
"I got my reward for playing well last season and it's no different for anyone else.
"The best players in the country have ups and downs, and I've had my own before. I had a terrible game in the first leg of the play-offs and then a really good night in the second leg at Carlisle. You can't let the difficult times affect you negatively.
"The pleasing thing is that the manager is still involving me.
There are a few good players here who can't get into the squad and although I've been on the bench in the last few games, it always gives you the chance to make an impression."
That will be Howson's role again this weekend on his return to the stadium where his most memorable goal cleared United's passage to the play-off final at Wembley.
The 20-year-old's performance at Brunton Park is most vividly remembered for the left-footed shot which curled past Westwood with 90 minutes on the clock and Leeds and Carlisle tied at 2-2 on aggregate, but no less important was his neat finish after 10 minutes, a goal which solved the problem caused by United's torrid experience in the first leg.
Trailing 2-1 after 90 minutes at Elland Road â€" or 96 to be exact â€" Howson first restored parity before striking Carlisle's jugular at the very end of normal time. His winning effort was the point at which United's sensational season peaked, before descending into ultimate failure as it did at Wembley 10 days later.
"The game at Carlisle took a few weeks to sink in," said Howson. "When the season finished, the only thing I could think about was losing the play-off final and how disappointing that was.
"It was difficult to take any positives from the season straight away but thinking about that night at Carlisle helped to take my mind off Wembley.
"The biggest thing I remember about that game was the way our players stood up to be counted. We'd been really poor in the first leg and I don't think any of us could believe how badly we'd played. The disappointment was massive, but so was the reaction. My mind was a total blur at the end.
"I haven't watched the game all the way through, but I've seen the goals many times and they still make my hair stand up on end. My brother's seen so many replays that he knows the commentary for the second goal off by heart. It's the best night of my career so far, but I wouldn't want it to stop at that."
United's run through the first six weeks of the season does not suggest that the club will move backwards from their appearance in last season's play-off final and McAllister's opinion of Howson is such that the midfielder is unlikely to regress either.
A brilliant victory at Swindon last weekend, a result which Howson helped to shore up during the final half-hour, consolidated Leeds' commanding win over Crewe, and the club have crept quietly to a position two points behind second-placed Carlisle.
Carlisle, inevitably, are unbeaten at Brunton Park this season, just as they were for almost seven months last term, and a Howson-inspired Leeds are the last club to have beaten John Ward's team on Cumbrian turf.
In their current form, Howson is confident that United can repeat that result tomorrow.
"They've got a great home record, but I don't see any reason to worry about that," he said.
"We've won at their place before and we deserved it, which means we can win there again.
"It's probably as difficult an away game as we're going to get this season, but going to Scunthorpe on the first day wasn't any easier and we came through that with three points.
"If you think too much about Carlisle's record at home you're basically fighting half of their battle for them. When we went there in May, we went to win and nothing's changed."

YEP

Snow

Hva skulle vi gjort uten deg kjelvi ?

Larsen.

Quote from: MartinR on September 18, 2008, 17:13:44
Quote from: Mr. X on September 18, 2008, 17:02:48
Quote from: MartinR on September 18, 2008, 16:45:06
Quote from: lufc86 on September 18, 2008, 16:39:58
Quote from: Leedsvik on September 18, 2008, 16:16:13
Quote from: MartinR on September 18, 2008, 14:55:43
Bare 2 dager igjen.... Gleder meg sånn :D

Tipper på dette laget jeg:

            Ankers

Fraz    Telfer  Hunty  Sheehan                                                               
              Douglas                           
                                                                                       
Kilky     Snoddy      Robs

          Becchio
                Beckford

Ankergren er ikke klar

Usikker om Ankergren kanskje er klar, men startar neppe. Sheehan er suspendert. Trur heller ikkje Delph har spelt seg ut av laget.
Tippar dette;
           Lucas
Fraz, Rui, Telfer, Hughes
Kilkenny, Douglas, Prutton, Delph
   Becchio, Beckford
Ops, dumme meg :-[
Bytter ut Ankergren mot Lucas, og Sheehan mot Hughes......
Da blir det:


                  Lucas

Fraz    Telfer  Hunty  Hughes                                                               
              Douglas                           
                                                                                       
Kilky     Snoddy      Robs

          Becchio
                Beckford


Riktig!!!

Hvordan i all verden klarer du å sette ut Delph? Han er jo bankers på midten vil jeg anta.
Pride of Yorkshire

Snow

Her er siste nytt om lagene før morgendagens oppgjør på Brunton Park kl. 13.15.

Etter tre strake seire i liga og cup ser det endelig ut til at Gary McAllisters menn har funnet vinnersporet. Laget virker å ha satt seg etter en litt trøbblete sesonginnledning.

Eneste skåret i gleden denne gangen er at Alan Sheehan pådro seg rødt kort sist og må stå over de neste tre kampene. Potensielle erstattere er Ben Parker, Aidan White og Andy Hughes, men også Bradley Johnson kan være en nødløsning. Vi tror imidlertid at McAllister lander på det erfarne og rutinerte i denne vanskelige bortekampen og velger Hughes. Noe som igjen gjør at enten Robert Snodgrass eller David Prutton vil ta høyrekanten.

Dette blir også som kjent Leeds Uniteds første retur til Brunton Park siden den nær legendariske semifinaletriumfen i playoff-spillet i mai.

Sannsynlig lag (4-4-2): Ankergren - Richardson, Marques, Telfer, Hughes - Snodgrass, Douglas, Kilkenny, Delph - Becchio, Beckford.

Ennå lite nytt om Carlisles lag på deres hjemmeside, men det rapporteres at den tidligere Leeds-spissen Michael Bridges er klar for kamp for laget som tapte forrige kamp med 1-2 borte mot Scunthorpe United og som for øyeblikket ligger på en 2. plass på tabellen med 13 poeng etter fire seire, en uavgjort og et tap. Laget har tatt full pott på hjemmebane med tre strake seire.

Vi møtte John Wards lag hele fire ganger forrige sesong og det endte med 3-2 og 1-2 hjemme på Elland Road og med 3-1 og 0-2 på Brunton Park.

PS! Carlisle-spissen Danny Graham ble kåret til månedens spiller i League One for august. Graham har en fortid på lån i Leeds.





                                                                                        Ole Morten Grønningen (19.09.08)   

baste

Er ikke Ankergren skadet? Det er en viktig kamp i morgen, men ikke avgjørende for sesongen på noe som helst vis. Tror likevel vi vinner, det er jo målet i alle kamper. Godt å høre Leeds spillerne selv våge å si at de tror  på seier, til tross for at det er en vanskelig bortekamp.


kjelvi

LORIMER: We've got to stay positive up at Carlisle



By Peter Lorimer
Talking soccer


At no stage last season was there any bad blood between Leeds United and Carlisle United but it goes without saying that their players will fancy the chance of a little revenge tomorrow.
Carlisle enjoyed a successful run last year and did themselves proud with a fairly small squad, but the way their promotion challenge collapsed must have hurt everyone at Brunton Park.
For Leeds United's fans, the second leg of last season's play-off semi-final between the clubs was a glorious night, but from Carlisle's point of view, Jonny Howson's late, late goal was a galling end to their campaign. That history adds a dash of spice to a game which needs no extra hype tomorrow.
All four of our games against Carlisle last term were eventful, entertaining affairs and, like ourselves, they qualified for the play-offs on merit.
I'd be surprised if Carlisle fail to finish inside the top six again, and John Ward's team are a very good benchmark for Leeds. They may well prove to be the best side we have played so far this season.
The players at Leeds are brimming with confidence after a superb win over Crewe and an even better victory at Swindon Town, achieved with 10 men and total assurance, but I see this weekend's match at Brunton Park as a step up in class.
Carlisle's ground is traditionally a difficult stadium for visiting teams to prise points from, and none of us need reminding that Brunton Park was the scene of our first league defeat under Dennis Wise last season.
But the fact that Carlisle's home record impresses season after season is one reason why our 2-0 victory in the play-offs was such an outstanding result.
If I think back to the two semi-final matches, the most striking thing for me is the different mentality we took into each game.
At Elland Road in the first leg, we completely lost our way after conceding the opening goal, and we gave them all the time and space they could have asked for.
If the truth be told we were outplayed, we got what we deserved, and Dougie Freedman's effort in the 96th minute was a fortunate break for us.
But even more important than his goal was the change in mentality shown at Brunton Park.
We pressed Carlisle from the first whistle and got in their faces early on, something which I think surprised them.
Even as the tension was building during the second half, we held on to possession and prevented Carlisle from gaining any rhythm. Howson's goal might have come at the death but it was completely merited and we got our reward for taking the game to our hosts.
There is, therefore, only one way to approach tomorrow's match. We must be assertive and trust our ability to dominate again.
Carlisle will not roll over at home â€" when have they ever done that â€" but if Leeds can beat Swindon easily with 10 men then a visit to Brunton Park should not cause negativity among Gary McAllister's players.
He has already proved that he has the personnel, the organisation and the imagination to get out of League One this season, but Carlisle are an excellent test because they also have the ability to last the pace.
They are one club I would never underestimate.
But, at this moment, Leeds are starting to gather speed and the rest of the division know it. A deserved victory at Brunton Park would really make League One think.

YEP

kjelvi

Quote from: kjelvi on September 17, 2008, 12:38:43
Bridges faces United KO
Michael Bridges will be denied a reunion with Leeds United this weekend with the injury-plagued striker again beset by fitness problems.
The ex-Leeds striker is nursing a hamstring strain and has been ruled out of Saturday's clash between his former club and Carlisle United at Brunton Park.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/Bridges-faces-United-KO.4498372.jp

Former Leeds striker Michael Bridges has surprised Carlisle's medical staff by being passed fit for tomorrow's clash at Brunton Park. Bridges was ruled out of the game earlier in the week but is now expected to be named on the bench.

sveifors

Liker ikke disse 13.15 kampene, har alltid dårlig følelse. Håper jeg tar inni h£$â,¬â,¬{ feil.

Sveifors

Always look on the LEEDS side of life

Snow

Våkner kanskje 12:45 så jeg spiser frokost går på datan og får med meg kampen :D Det er min
plan :)

Sleivind

Quote from: sveifors on September 19, 2008, 21:02:48
Liker ikke disse 13.15 kampene, har alltid dårlig følelse. Håper jeg tar inni h£$â,¬â,¬{ feil.



Er også i mot kamper som går 13.15! Jeg er av den formening at ALLE engelske fotballkamper skal starte lørdag klokka 16.00 (norsk tid). En og annen tirsdagskamp klokka 20.45 går også greit.

Dessuten så gjør disse tidlige kampene at jeg kommer litt ut "rytmen". Lørdag 13.15 så er det egentlig lørdagshandelen som står på tapetet. Innkjøp av lørdagspilsen, chips og andre viktige ting!

Roy

Misser dnne kampen anyway, skal i konfirmasjon. Men er bekymret for Bridges, han kunne vært/kan ennå bli/ en klassespiller.
Stand up and sing for LEEDS UNITED

Alexander Lejandro


MartinR

Ikke så veldig lenge til kamp nå :D Bare noen timer til 8)

MartinR


Alexander Lejandro

Quote from: MartinR on September 20, 2008, 10:07:04
Quote from: Lejandro on September 20, 2008, 10:02:34
Tror egentlig 1-1
De er gode
Men det er vi å!!! ;)
Selfølgelig. Vi går for Champions, men denne kampen er viktig.

jackbauer68

Håper white spiller v back men tipper det blir hughes.....da blir det en plass ledig på midten og den får robinson eller prutton 8)

Stifler

Noen som gidder å oppdatere meg underveis? :)
Kommer ikke hjem før i 3 tiden...

48075133 :)

Takker.
-Nr 2 er den første taperen-

Leeeeeeeeeeeeds

To timer igjen. Dette blir jævlig spennende. Tror på tre mål til Leeds og ett til Carlisle
HI MY NAME IS LEEDS, AND WHY NOT. THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD

kjelvi

HAY: Okay, I admit it â€" I actually like going to Brunton Park!

Phil Hay
Inside Elland Road


There is truly no end to commercial enterprise in the upper reaches of professional football.
Premier League clubs have an insatiable appetite for generating revenue â€" from time to time it seems like their raison d'etre â€" but the financial innovation of England's wealthiest division has nothing on the leaders of Germany's Bundesliga.
Hamburger SV opened the gates to their own graveyard this month, giving supporters the unusual opportunity to be buried in the shade of the club's stadium (and thus ruining the time-honoured chant of 'Hamburger till I die').
To avoid the scheme appearing half-hearted, the club have also manufactured their own range of coffins, branded with logos and colours and priced accordingly.
Full marks to the Germans for innovation, and never let it be said that football is in danger of losing its sanity or, worse still, its sense of taste.
Clubs strive for inclusion in their country's uppermost division but when the Premier League and its equivalents start acting like the lunatic fringe, it is never a bad thing to be far from the madding crowd, in touch with reality.
That is where Leeds United will find themselves at Brunton Park tomorrow.
It puts me in a small minority to say that Carlisle United's stadium is a venue I find aesthetically pleasing.
Finding others who say the same is not easy, whether they be Carlisle's paying customers or the entertainment itself, but a ground which looks lost in an era of flat-pack stadia is a valuable reference to football as it used to be.
A Brunton Park graveyard is an improbable prospect, even if visiting clubs are so often buried there.
There are parts of the stadium which spectators are inclined to poke fun at â€" the primitive, uncovered terracing given to away supporters and the huge stand which sits off-centre from the halfway line on one side of the pitch, giving the impression of a rebuilding job which ran out of steam a quarter of the way through.
But, for all its idiosyncrasies, it is no insult to say that the ground exists purely for the purpose of playing and watching football.
Leicester City were the club likely to generate most interest among United's supporters when the fixture list was published in June and Gary McAllister's personal pick was the Boxing Day game against his former club at Elland Road.
Personally, I looked immediately for the date of Leeds' visit to Brunton Park, a game which is almost without compare in this season's calendar.
The venue is unpopular among professional players, in the main because it does not tend to inspire visiting teams.
It is difficult to lay a finger on the precise reason why Carlisle's home form is so formidable â€" 19 of their last 95 regular league games at Brunton Park have resulted in defeat â€" but their mystifying reliability in Cumbria is an undeniable trend.
There is no stadium in League One capable of examining a club's credentials more painfully than Carlisle's.
Leeds took that examination in November of last year and failed.
A 3-1 loss was their first defeat of the season in a league fixture, coming after 13 unbeaten outings, and the effect of that result was to begin the slow decay of Dennis Wise's most enlightening period as manager.
Six months later, with McAllister at their helm, United returned to Cumbria for a second time and redressed their loss with a pulsating win in the second leg of what was a fabulous play-off semi-final.
It took their finest performance of the season to master Brunton Park, as McAllister must have known it would, and a display of identical intensity will be required this weekend.
The four-match series staged between Leeds and Carlisle last season was, aside from United's 15-point debacle, the most interesting sideshow of the whole term.
Every game was important and fascinating, and every contest honest. And, unlike so many fixtures in the heavily-marketed Premier League, the games sold themselves without the aid of hype.
Around 16,600 fans watched their league game at Brunton Park, and more than 28,500 paid to see the return at Elland Road.
Including their two battles in the play-offs, the combined crowd attracted for all four matches was 94,368, an impressive figure which the head-to-head scuffle between Leeds and Carlisle was worthy of.
Carlisle's manager, John Ward, insisted this week that mutual respect exists between his club and Leeds.
It would seem that he is right. As important as all four of last season's matches were, they produced a total of only 12 bookings.
The second leg of their play-off semi-final, as unlikely as it sounds, did not see one. And at no stage was a red card required.
Competitive football depends on healthy rivalry, but it also needs perspective and sportsmanship.
Between them, the clubs met that balance last season, and their competitive instinct has not been dulled by defeat in the play-offs. Carlisle have the quality to bother the top six again this year, as do Leeds. Tomorrow's fixture is not, then, a game to lose.
United, as a club, were an attractive story last season, and the media's dream.
The attention on Elland Road has shrunk this term, lessened by the fact that League One football is no longer a novelty for Leeds, and pre-match press conferences have become quiet affairs.
This weekend's game will take place in relative obscurity, far away from the bright lights of the Premier League.
But good football is good football in any division, and it does not take the razzmatazz of the Premiership to produce it or to appreciate it.
The more you read about branded graveyards and other strange schemes, the more you realise that the ordinary disposition of League One is something to be celebrated

YEP

Sølvreven

Nei nå må jeg vel i skapet mitt og hente favorittdrakten min. For å si det sånn så har jeg bestemt meg for å komme ut av skapet......... med den gule 70 talls drakten med nr 4 på ryggen.  ;D
Bremner må da bety lykke?
***************

Leedsoholic. Oppfinneren av "pretting".

LeedsUnited

I dag vil vi nok få en pekepinn på om laget vårt holder til en direkte opprykksplass eller ei.
Vi møter et sterkt lag og det vil mest sannsynlig bli et tett oppgjør.  Forhåpentligvis stikker Leeds av med seieren, men har en følelse av at det vil ende uavgjort.
Uansett vil det bli spennende å se om McAllister nå virkelig har begynt å få orden på sakene, eller om vi vil få et nytt tilbakeslag.
Krysser fingre for Leedsseier i dag :)

Dennis

Marching on together!

SirOlsen

Hehe, enda godt jeg stakk innom her og sjekket nå!... hadde jo ikke fått med meg at kampen ikke startet k 16 idag :D
-SirOlsen-

Trond90

We are Leeds, We are Proud, Standing up, Singing loud,
and there's nothing you can do against the Yellow Whites and Blue!

Promotion 2010

Hvorfor er det ikke noen sending på LUTV?

Ingenting hos meg!
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Trond90

Quote from: Promotion 2010 on September 20, 2008, 12:45:18
Hvorfor er det ikke noen sending på LUTV?

Ingenting hos meg!
Howson snakker her ;)
We are Leeds, We are Proud, Standing up, Singing loud,
and there's nothing you can do against the Yellow Whites and Blue!