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« Svar #2970 på: September 18, 2012, 18:07:19 »
Hehe, Duncan Castles (les Gwyn Williams les Ken Bates) skrev først at han skulle være her den kampen.

Paul Dews (Leeds-ansatt mediesjef) twitter-svarer at han har visst i ukesvis at han ikke skulle overvære kveldens kamp.
Mens Boozie da svarer:

QUOTE (canila @ Sep 18 2012, 05:00 PM)

Sitat
Paul Dews is saying he knew for weeks Bates wasn't attending.



He was definitely due to attend as of last Friday when he told his own lawyers!
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« Svar #2971 på: September 18, 2012, 18:40:18 »
Hmmmmf..
Mot!

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« Svar #2972 på: September 18, 2012, 19:31:14 »
"Current situation is that, the appropriate documents have not been finalised between the lawyers"
 "Stories keep appearing with varying degrees of accuracy as evidenced by the statements put out by LUST."
 "That included a TV interview that said a deal was 'imminent'. It wasn't then and is progressing slowly now."
 "In football everybody expects everything now - but the real world is different."

- Ken Bates om takeoveren

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« Svar #2973 på: September 18, 2012, 19:36:47 »
"Current situation is that, the appropriate documents have not been finalised between the lawyers"
 "Stories keep appearing with varying degrees of accuracy as evidenced by the statements put out by LUST."
 "That included a TV interview that said a deal was 'imminent'. It wasn't then and is progressing slowly now."
 "In football everybody expects everything now - but the real world is different."

- Ken Bates om takeoveren

Kilde?

Hvis det er fra dagens program så lysner det...   :)
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« Svar #2974 på: September 18, 2012, 19:37:39 »
"Current situation is that, the appropriate documents have not been finalised between the lawyers"
 "Stories keep appearing with varying degrees of accuracy as evidenced by the statements put out by LUST."
 "That included a TV interview that said a deal was 'imminent'. It wasn't then and is progressing slowly now."
 "In football everybody expects everything now - but the real world is different."

- Ken Bates om takeoveren

Kilde?

Hvis det er fra dagens program så lysner det...   :)

Andrew Haigh som kom med dette fra twitter  :)

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« Svar #2975 på: September 18, 2012, 19:37:42 »
"Current situation is that, the appropriate documents have not been finalised between the lawyers"
 "Stories keep appearing with varying degrees of accuracy as evidenced by the statements put out by LUST."
 "That included a TV interview that said a deal was 'imminent'. It wasn't then and is progressing slowly now."
 "In football everybody expects everything now - but the real world is different."

- Ken Bates om takeoveren

Jaja, men ;)

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 Bates finished programme notes saying "papers not finalised between lawyers" yest pre-12pm. The rumour of completion broke at 1.30pm #lufc
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« Svar #2976 på: September 18, 2012, 19:41:22 »
"Current situation is that, the appropriate documents have not been finalised between the lawyers"
 "Stories keep appearing with varying degrees of accuracy as evidenced by the statements put out by LUST."
 "That included a TV interview that said a deal was 'imminent'. It wasn't then and is progressing slowly now."
 "In football everybody expects everything now - but the real world is different."

- Ken Bates om takeoveren

Jaja, men ;)

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 Bates finished programme notes saying "papers not finalised between lawyers" yest pre-12pm. The rumour of completion broke at 1.30pm #lufc


Kanskje dagen i dag er i dag!!!!   8)
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« Svar #2977 på: September 18, 2012, 19:51:29 »
Når Bates tok over klubben så var det gjort på 2 dager i følge Krasner/Bates. Synd Bates ikke kan være like effektiv når han selger noe som når han kjøper!
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« Svar #2978 på: September 18, 2012, 19:53:29 »

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« Svar #2979 på: September 18, 2012, 21:33:18 »
:)


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#lufc Been told Bates is due in Leeds tomorrow.Programme notes mention documents need finalising between lawyers re the deal with investors.
 
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« Svar #2980 på: September 18, 2012, 21:51:27 »
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QUOTE (lucasledge @ Sep 18 2012, 08:39 PM)

So Boozie's comments are completely at odds with what Bates has said.

Bates said the appropriate documents have not been finalised with the lawyers and Boozie says there is no need for any talks with the lawyers because there nothing to talk about.

Somebody's information is inaccurate here.

Boozie:
He's been at odds with me all summer! All I can say is as far as the lawyers are aware they have done their bit for now. Once he signs there will be a bit more to do but he hasn't yet.
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« Svar #2981 på: September 18, 2012, 23:20:35 »
Wake me up when september ends... God natt.

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« Svar #2982 på: September 19, 2012, 08:33:34 »
Wake me up when september ends... God natt.

 ;D

men alvorligt tale, så kan vi vel vanskelig få direkte opprykk nå.  Kun låne spelara i høst som er kun til låns. Evt nye spelare som kommer i januar må samspelst osv....
Og så er det også ett spørsmål om hvor lenge NW orker mer tøys...
Litt tidlig å si at sesongen er over, men...

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« Svar #2983 på: September 19, 2012, 09:07:40 »
Wake me up when september ends... God natt.

 ;D

men alvorligt tale, så kan vi vel vanskelig få direkte opprykk nå.  Kun låne spelara i høst som er kun til låns. Evt nye spelare som kommer i januar må samspelst osv....
Og så er det også ett spørsmål om hvor lenge NW orker mer tøys...
Litt tidlig å si at sesongen er over, men...

MOT
HVIS det blir en takeover, og vi får PENGER NOK, så kan vi i prinsippet låne hvem som helst (fra en Engelsk klubb) med avtale om at vi kjøper vedkommende 1. januar.  Så det er fullt mulig å begynne å bygge opp laget så snart TO evt er i boks. Den eneste begrensningen er hvor mange lånespillere vi kan ha på banen samtidig - tror grensen er fem.
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« Svar #2984 på: September 19, 2012, 10:19:37 »
Lukter TO annonsering i morgen, fra sikre kilder... Magefølelsen!
Tror uansett ikke det vil hjelpe nevneverdig denne sesongen. Er avhengig av å henge med der oppe frem til vi evt får ''integrert'' potensielle lånespillere etc.
Det ser allerede vanskelig ut.
Kan uansett ikke huske sist det har vært så mange opprykkskandidater i Championship. Slik jeg ser det er det fort 10 lag som kan rykke direkte opp!

Klarer vi en play-off plass tror jeg vi skal si oss rimelig fornøyde.

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« Svar #2985 på: September 19, 2012, 10:35:47 »
Gidder rett og slett ikke å høre på rykter mer!

Håper veldig på TO,men dette har blitt en tragisk sak for klubben.
Venter nå til jeg får noe hånfast på bordet.
Slipper å bli skuffet da!!!

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« Svar #2986 på: September 19, 2012, 10:47:28 »
Denne twitterkontoens opphav kjenner jeg ikke til og svelger med noen klyper salt.
Likevel deler jeg det ;)


All following was tweeted around midnight last night
 

REALcomms lufc ‏@lufcclubb4job
(Og slik presenterer vedkommende seg:
communication awful - fans deserve better. my job on the line but time you got what you deserve. #lufc)

..bates IS in leeds tomorrow. papers not signed. walker morris scheduled meeting for 11am. barring hitches, signing to happen tomorrow #lufc

.. #lufc staff informed this afternoon, told specifically NOT to respond to questions and keep status quo (remove banners etc)

 clearly not all staff, club shop boys for example are yet to find out. unsure of announcement timescales etc... #lufc

. but bates' original programme notes (were critical of T/O process) for forest were stopped this afternoon #lufc
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« Svar #2987 på: September 19, 2012, 11:13:22 »
Kjøpern jeg Asbjørn. Høres a unektelig positivt etter en grå kveld fotballmessig. Heia Bates! Ingenting å vente på nå... er det vel??
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« Svar #2988 på: September 19, 2012, 14:55:34 »
0 poeng, kun 19 000 and falling...............NÃ… må jeg selge!!
 

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« Svar #2989 på: September 19, 2012, 16:42:21 »
Kan uansett ikke huske sist det har vært så mange opprykkskandidater i Championship. Slik jeg ser det er det fort 10 lag som kan rykke direkte opp!

Wow! Nye regler?  :o

Nå kjente jeg optimismen komme tilbake. En topp 10 plassering bør vi da saktens kunne klare!  ;D
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« Svar #2990 på: September 19, 2012, 20:35:40 »
Kan uansett ikke huske sist det har vært så mange opprykkskandidater i Championship. Slik jeg ser det er det fort 10 lag som kan rykke direkte opp!

Wow! Nye regler?  :o

Nå kjente jeg optimismen komme tilbake. En topp 10 plassering bør vi da saktens kunne klare!  ;D

 ;D >:( >:(

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« Svar #2991 på: September 19, 2012, 22:43:22 »
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« Svar #2992 på: September 20, 2012, 09:36:29 »
Stille før stormen?
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« Svar #2993 på: September 20, 2012, 09:47:55 »
Greit Jon R, kverrulanten :) Det er fort 10 lag som jeg ser kan være med å kjempe om de 2 direkte opprykksplassene!  ;)
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« Svar #2994 på: September 20, 2012, 12:20:37 »
I følge The National / Duncan Castles har et av medlemmene av Konsortiumet gått solo, og gitt et separat tilbud til Ken Bates.

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/leeds-united-face-new-bid-from-former-middle-east-consortium-member

It is understood that one of the members of the Middle East consortium has gone solo and offered Bates an alternative package in which he would receive 50% of the purchase price now and remain in place at Elland Road as a consultant.

The second tranche of money would be paid when Bates choose to step down.
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« Svar #2995 på: September 20, 2012, 12:24:34 »
Dette må være vås  >:(
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« Svar #2996 på: September 20, 2012, 12:49:10 »
Leeds United in limbo: What now, Ken?


Leeds fans stage a pre-match protest before the defeat against Hull City at Elland Road on Tuesday. Picture by Bruce Rollinson


 By Phil Hay
Published on Thursday 20 September 2012 08:15

Ken Bates was back in Leeds today amid increasing pressure on the Leeds United chairman to decide the future of the Elland Road club.



Bates has returned to the city in the aftermath of fresh demonstrations against him and United’s board, fuelled by uncertainty surrounding the proposed takeover of Leeds.

Around 800 supporters staged a protest prior to Tuesday night’s clash with Hull City, calling on Bates to accept the offer from a Middle Eastern consortium to buy his majority stake in United.

Negotiations between Leeds and the group of prospective buyers have been continuing for almost four months, and public demands for a resolution are growing alongside a deepening injury crisis at Elland Road.

A threadbare United squad suffered their second defeat in four days on Tuesday, losing 3-2 to Hull, and the lack of transfer funds available to manager Neil Warnock during the summer window is threatening to impact on the club’s Championship season.

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The Leeds boss has lost no fewer than four senior players to injury, and striker Ross McCormack is set to miss eight weeks of the term once he undergoes surgery on an ankle injury tomorrow. Warnock has as yet been unable to find a replacement for the Scotland international.

Sources on both sides of the takeover remain quietly hopeful of a successful outcome, with one telling the YEP that “significant progress” was expected this week, but the pressure for answers is growing ahead of Saturday’s clash with Nottingham Forest, a game which Bates is planning to attend after flying in from his Monte Carlo home.

Leeds United Supporters Trust chairman Gary Cooper told the YEP: “The feeling we get is that a lot of supporters are at the end of their tether.

“They deserve to know what’s going on and for a long time I’ve advocated the buyers speaking in some form to offer reassurance. I don’t think it’s solely the club’s responsibility and both sides could put us in the picture without breaking their confidentiality clause. But the Trust are confident that this takeover will be in the best interests of Leeds United and from our point of view the club isn’t stagnating at the moment – it’s going backwards.”
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Hjelpe meg - endelig har Yorkshire Evening Post tatt til ordet! ENDELIG!!!

Leeds United: It’s decision time on Whites future



WAITING GAME: Leeds United fans hold a protest before the home game against Middlesbrough last season - the start of mobilised opposition against chairman Ken Bates.


 By Phil Hay
Published on Thursday 20 September 2012 11:13



Ken Bates calls them the “vociferous minority” and they were there again at Elland Road on Tuesday, demonstrating against Leeds United’s owner.



Bates did not attend the club’s defeat to Hull City – he has not attended any of their games since the win over Wolves on the first day of the season - so the protest missed its intended target but news of these things always reaches him. The independent view of West Yorkshire Police was that 800 supporters or thereabouts took part in the demonstration.

In terms of organisation and scale, it was similar to the protest held before last season’s home defeat to Middlesbrough, a protest which marked the start of mobilised opposition to Bates’ ownership of Leeds. At the time he described it to me as “water off a duck’s back”, the work of the “vociferous minority” he so often speaks about. “I’ve been listening to complaints for 50 years,” he said.

That conversation took place 13 months ago; a long time in the life of a professional football club. Yet nothing in the period between the demonstration pre-Middlesbrough and the protest staged on Tuesday night has altered the view of those who want a change in the management of Leeds. The complaint today is as it was back then: that the board at Elland Road are failing to attack the Championship with the ambition expected of a club with United’s stature and income. Whatever its merits, their blueprint has come to be seen as a stagnant strategy.

I shared that view a year ago and I share it now. The signs which warned that United’s squad was under-equipped for the 2011-12 season are evident again, in the eyes of the public and the club’s own manager. Simon Grayson was wary of talking candidly while he remained in employment at Elland Road but Neil Warnock has no compunction when it comes to speaking his mind. “We’ve got a good team,” he said after Tuesday’s defeat. “We just don’t have a good squad.”

It might seem and sound like deja vu but there is a fundamental difference between the situation now and the situation as it was in the autumn of 2011. When I interviewed Bates last year, his response to the protests was to say that no-one was willing to “put their hand in their pocket” and pay to take control of Leeds. In other words, there was no alternative to him. But by his own admission that is no longer true. There is an alternative and the protest against him on Tuesday night took place in the knowledge that Bates has a way out if he wants one. “Proposed new investment” as he put it – a takeover to you and me – is at his fingertips.

Bates’ programme notes ahead of the game against Hull were as close as anyone at Elland Road has come to cutting to the chase and outlining the situation surrounding the attempt by a Middle Eastern consortium to purchase his majority stake. They nevertheless fell a long way short of full disclosure. The news was not especially good, talking of a deal “progressing slowly” and of documents which have “not been finalised between the lawyers.” It struck a different tone to the quiet optimism of the source who told the YEP that “significant progress” was likely this week.

The pertinent question is not what might happen to Leeds if and when the takeover goes through. The question for Bates is what will happen to the club should the takeover fall through. If the general assessment of Warnock’s squad proves to be accurate and promotion asks too much of his players, where will the money come from to address the shortcomings? Or is it now accepted that Leeds will enter each season with the challenge of punching above their collective weight? Is there scope in the accounts to level the disparity which exists between the budget given to Warnock and those available to other managers in the Championship?

At present additional funding is unlikely to come from gate receipts at Elland Road. The attendance for United’s loss to Hull was 19,750, a crowd far below the level on which Leeds traditionally budget. Only two of last season’s attendances were smaller than that, one at the end of January and the other in April at a time when United’s pursuit of the play-offs had given up the ghost. No league attendance in the 2010-11 season dropped beneath 20,000. You suspect that smaller turn-outs await unless the club are given a shot in the arm.

Falling attendances can be attributed to several things – high prices, the recession, an economic climate which makes football difficult to afford. But no-one inside Elland Road on Tuesday could fail to feel the disillusionment that occupied most corners of the ground. There is frustration in spades but apathy too, to a degree which Warnock can no longer control. This season was meant to be his crowning glory and it may yet be but the wry smiles that creep in during every pre and post-match press conference suggest nagging doubts about the likelihood of promotion. He looks like a manager staring down the barrel of the improbable.

Injuries have stabbed him in the back repeatedly but clubs with a transfer policy as reactive as United’s leave themselves prone to that.

Warnock had no money to spend in the last fortnight of the transfer window so he came into September with the intention of using the emergency loan market to fill any hole in his squad. When it came to filling the hole left by Ross McCormack last weekend, he discovered that no suitable players were available or none that he could afford to sign. So while Cardiff hold Craig Bellamy in reserve and Hull name Nick Proschwitz on their bench, United’s manager falls back on a squad which was arguably too small in the first place. “There is no point in making signings for the sake of doing so,” Bates explained on Tuesday. Hence why Warnock wanted a full complement of players on United’s books before the end of August.

The perception of the relationship between Warnock and Leeds is that he has shown more urgency than the club in his effort to make good this season. At a time when Leeds need more urgency than ever, Bates is talking about a takeover deal “progressing slowly” and a loan market which might offer nothing more than a chance to “make up the numbers.” It does not breed confidence about the possibility of a telling response.

Bates has two ways of breathing life into Leeds – either find the funds himself to bring Warnock’s squad up to strength or take the money on offer from the consortium who are refusing to pull back from the negotiating table. There is a third way, of course, which is to ignore both options and do nothing but a decreasing number of supporters will stand for that. Nor are they likely to show any more patience for a takeover process which has gone on long enough.

It is Bates’ belief that protests and demonstrations are an obstacle to external investment at Elland Road. There is no reason why they should be. All they tell potential buyers is that they are bidding for a club with supporters who care. It is a preferable scenario to buying a club whose supporters don’t.

And as for ‘Bates Out’? That crude message has been countered in the past by the valid question of who would replace him. Now that willing buyers are at the table, the crowd have another horse to back. That so many fans seem willing to twist on a faceless and unidentified consortium says everything about their confidence in the current board. As the Leeds United Supporters Trust say in the advertisement which presently hangs from a lamp post outside the East Stand, it is time for change – either with the way this regime is run at Leeds or with this regime as a whole.

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-it-s-decision-time-on-whites-future-1-4942651
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« Svar #2999 på: September 20, 2012, 14:44:45 »
Phil Hay ‏@PhilHayYEP
Seems clear that the terms of the takeover deal at #lufc have changed in the past few days. GFH Capital Ltd appear to have been sidelined...

Phil Hay ‏@PhilHayYEP
...and my understanding is that the push to buy #lufc is now coming from Saudi Arabia, rather than Bahrain.

Phil Hay ‏@PhilHayYEP
The way it's being told, the bidders were part of the original consortium but there's a suggestion that at least 1 new buyer has joined them
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