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FA Cup winners: Don Revie and Billy Bremner Why I will raise a glass of barasch to wee Billy Bremner
Jeff Powell
Last updated at 00:00 08 December 1997

THERE is a bar in the old airport at Budapest which has survived the plastic moderni-sation of the terminal building and still reeks of fiery liquor dispensed in a smoke-filled atmosphere of Iron Curtain nostalgia.
The lifestyle police have yet to reach this haven of incorrectness.
It is no more than a hole in the wall, really. Three's a crowd inside the tiny room where the walls are as plastered as the regulars - but with foreign bank notes, the hard currency which the Eastern Europeans once craved as desperately as Billy Bremner yearned for his first cigarette of the day.
It was shortly after 7am one such bleary morning more than a quarter of a century ago that we paused here for a hair of the Hungarian dog and, in Bremner's case, a few hand-rolled strands of tobacco.
Leeds United had been up all night celebrating another famous victory in Europe.
By nature the fetch-and-carry man in midfield, Wee Billy stationed himself between Big Jack Charlton at the counter and myself in the doorway.
I took the orders from the gaggle of players and sports reporters who travel to these occasions, and Bremner conveyed them to Charlton, whose bizarre knack of making himself understood around the world in broad Geordie resulted in the drinks being passed back out to the hun-gover assembly.
A dozen beers, a few glasses of wine, a couple of mineral waters for the fainthearted . . .
and a double barasch for the tall gentleman in the long overcoat propped against the wall.
As he handed over the stained glass with the brown liquid crawling up the inside, Bremner stopped to inhale the fumes and grimaced. When the instant disappearance of Hungary's national liqueur was followed by the polite request for another large one, Bremner whispered: 'Who the hell is that?'
GEOFFREY GREEN of the Times, he was informed. The doyen o f a l l f o o t b a l l e r writers.
Bremner - pugnacious, combative, feisty, irreverent and blunt - was more of a tabloid street man than a broadsheet intellectual. But his first act upon arriving home was to place an order for the Times with his local newsagent. And the newspaper was duly delivered to him - until the day after Green died.
Not that he ever read it, he confided years later. Not once.
Not even when it catalogued the latest League or Cup triumph by Leeds or eulogised his own election to the pantheon of England's Footballers Of The Year.
Each day's copy of the Times remained rolled up on the hall table, his daily memorial to one of the few men who ever out-drank Leeds, home or abroad.
The loyalty burned into this 5ft 5in of fighting-cock foot-baller was as vivid as his mop of curly red hair. So was winning.
The title of Bremner's autobiography was his declaration of football priorities: You Get Nowt For Coming Second.
The gritty burr of Yorkshire pragmatism had been grafted onto the natural-born Scottish warrior - his home town of Stirling borders the battlefield of Bannockburn - from the winter's day in 1959 when he signed professional forms with Leeds.
From that moment hence, Bremner carried the standard for his club and country with passion and a deep-seated sense of family.
For that latter reason alone, the passing of each of these real football men deepens the impression that we may not see their like again.
Bremner not only loved his wife Vicki, his son Billy Jr and his daughters Donna and Amanda but embraced a lifetime devotion to them which could never be threatened by his celebrity.
Even so, he felt just as married to Leeds and just as closely related to his blood brothers in the team.
Bonds as powerful as these are forged in the heart and the soul, not the ego and the pocket.
Loyalty and winning were inseparable to Bremner's instinct; they were not the two distinctly opposite entities which the money-driven world of sport has made them.
It is sadly ironic that a man of such old-fashioned values should die so young. Like England's Bobby Moore, Scotland's Bremner has gone early. At 54.
MOORE died from c a n c e r , f o r n o apparent reason.
B r e m n e r w e n t without warning in hospital yesterday, apparently from the strains imposed on that stout heart by the cigarettes and all the hypertension which furrowed that worn face whenever he stormed into combat.
National icons, both.
Who knows? Perhaps history prefers us to remember our heroes as they are before the ravages of time make too many inroads.
Like the memory of Bremner on another Cold War night in Eastern Europe.
One of those frequent occasions, on and off the pitch, when he made it more a truism than a cliche for his old teammates to chorus yesterday that he would have been the first man they would have wanted alongside them in the trenches.
It was Bremner who, all those years ago, led the charge against the bouncers as we all fought our way, shoulder-to-shoulder, out of a rip-off nightclub . . . fearing only the wrath of Don Revie who was waiting in the hotel lobby.
That was how he played his football.
It was Revie, the Godfather of Elland Road, who recog-nised Bremner's leadership qualities and appointed him not just his captain but his elder son in the football family that was Leeds. As a young man unprepared to rest on the laurels of his exceptional talent, he was the archetypal Revie footballer.
BR E M N E R w o r shipped The Don, never tolerating one word against the man who cajoled and encouraged Leeds to become not only the finest football team in the land but also for a time the most r e v i l e d b u n c h o f a r c h professionals in Europe.
'Yes,' he said once, 'we probably were the most hated players, but we were honest to a man.' What others saw as gamesmanship and intimidation, Bremner and Revie and Charl-ton and the rest regarded as the ultimate in competitiveness. Bremner and John Giles were as ball-skilled and perceptive as any midfield players in Europe at the time.
But although both stood under 5ft 6in in those blue and white socks, only the bravest dared defy them on the field of battle as they won two League Championships, one FA Cup, one League Cup and two European trophies.
It might have been more but for Revie's natural caution. But Bremner was of a different character. In 586 appearances spanning 17 years, he suffered the disgrace of being sent off at Wembley for scrapping with his English counterpart, Kevin Keegan, and wound up with a picture of his famous spat with Scots countryman Dave Mackay occupying a permanent place on the walls at Tottenham's White Hart Lane.
But Revie was his surrogate father, and Bremner never let him nor Leeds down. Nor Scotland, for whom Bremner's more than half a century of appearances were crowned by victory at Wembley in England's first match after their 1966 World Cup victory.
Bremner promptly claimed the championship of the world on behalf of his Wee Blue Devils.
Loyalty and victory. Bremner kept them in the family. That was why he could always smile.
That was why football never stopped loving him when the magic waned during his doomed attempt to follow Revie into the manager's chair and he drifted back to Doncas-ter, back to a life as an after-dinner speaker, local radio commentator and enthusiastic golfer.
He lived to see George Graham begin the revival at his beloved Leeds and was happy for that, too. But he never made it to his 55th birthday tomorrow.
If our own priorities could only have remained as clearly defined and focused as Billy Bremner's, no matter what the pressures and pitfalls of the daily routine, we would all be on the early morning plane to Budapest, there to toast our comrade in life . . . in barasch.
Above: The young Bremner


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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
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LEEDS UTD MEMORIES ‏@MartinMarty1974  · 16m16 minutes ago 
Leeds United in the not so famous Red shirts take the field against Juventus in the Fairs Cup Final 1st Leg in 1971

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LEEDS UTD MEMORIES ‏@MartinMarty1974  Â· 16m16 minutes ago  
Leeds United in the not so famous Red shirts take the field against Juventus in the Fairs Cup Final 1st Leg in 1971



I den kampen som ble spilt to - 2 - ganger!   ;)


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The match was staged on the evening of Wednesday, 26 May, in Turin's magnificent Stadio Communale. The heavy downpour that started in the afternoon was still in full sway and it was clear that conditions would make play a lottery. Geoffrey Green claimed that "It was really only something of a formal concession to the crowd huddled high up on the steep terraces of the stadium that this match was attempted at all. But the crowd took it all stoically, their banked umbrellas for all the world resembling black mushrooms, sprouting in the rain. Even at the start, wide tracks of water dotted the pitch."

Barry Foster in the Yorkshire Post: "Many had been standing in the heavy downpour for more than an hour before the match had started. The rain which was falling when Leeds arrived in Turin, restarted this afternoon and developed into a fierce thunderstorm as kick off time approached.[/b][/size]

"The ditch separating spectators from the pitch was filled with water. An hour before the kick off, the terraces were a sea of umbrellas and plastic macs. Their owners saw the referee inspect the sodden pitch, on which pools of water were lying, twice before the kick off. At first it was thought unlikely the match would go on. But about 50,000 of the 70,000 capacity were already in the ground.

"Firecrackers exploded on the terraces while groundsmen fought the pitch and eventually the players appeared. It looked impossible to play but postponement promised even more difficult problems.

"The match started on time with Leeds kicking off against the tide and wind. It was soon obvious that the match should never have started. Ground passing was impossible. The ball just stuck as soon as it hit the mud. And it was a bath for the players each time they fell and that was often."

Despite the dreadful conditions, the two teams did what they could to play good football. The hosts had most of the possession and forced two corners in the first three minutes, with Charlton having to concede the first with a headed block to Causio's shot. Then the centre-half was hampered by the pools of water as Anastasi burst through Madeley's attempted tackle, but the striker's resulting shot lacked power.

Lorimer responded for Leeds by letting fly from 35 yards; it was obvious that even the most speculative of efforts had a chance with the conditions making it a nightmare for the two keepers. Clean handling was a distinct challenge, but Gary Sprake quietened growing mutterings regarding his form with a succession of fine saves, first at Capello's feet and then fielding safely after diving to Causio's deflected effort.

After 20 minutes it became clear that Eddie Gray could not continue. A shoulder injury that kept him out of the previous week's Scotland game had been aggravated. He was forced to leave the field with his arm in a sling. Terry Yorath came on to slot into the midfield role he had filled for Wales in that same series of home internationals.

Juventus knew attack was obligatory for them and they continued to do much of the pressing. From one of their
assaults, after 22 minutes, they nearly opened the scoring when Anastasi's shot struck Madeley and was nearly deflected into the net. Sprake parried it and when Anastasi got to the loose ball he could only crash it against a post with the goal gaping.

Back came Leeds for Giles to manufacture enough room to fire in an effort from fully 30 yards. The crossbar denied what would have been a tremendous goal in the final dangerous movement of the first period.

The players came out for the second half in fresh new strips, ready to resume battle, but it was clear that playing on would lead to farcical scenes. Within six minutes Dutch referee Laurens van Ravens held an impromptu conference with his linesman and declared the match abandoned, to the relief of most reasonable people.

It was clearly the correct decision, and Juve danced with glee, but Bremner protested angrily. United were halfway to the draw that they sought and understandably disappointed at having to start again.


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« Svar #33 på: Juni 14, 2015, 16:52:57 »
En ganske så bra obituary, fra '97:

FA Cup winners: Don Revie and Billy Bremner Why I will raise a glass of barasch to wee Billy Bremner

Jeff Powell

Last updated at 00:00 08 December 1997


THERE is a bar in the old airport at Budapest which has survived the plastic moderni-sation of the terminal building and still reeks of fiery liquor dispensed in a smoke-filled atmosphere of Iron Curtain nostalgia.

The lifestyle police have yet to reach this haven of incorrectness.

It is no more than a hole in the wall, really. Three's a crowd inside the tiny room where the walls are as plastered as the regulars - but with foreign bank notes, the hard currency which the Eastern Europeans once craved as desperately as Billy Bremner yearned for his first cigarette of the day.

It was shortly after 7am one such bleary morning more than a quarter of a century ago that we paused here for a hair of the Hungarian dog and, in Bremner's case, a few hand-rolled strands of tobacco.

Leeds United had been up all night celebrating another famous victory in Europe.

By nature the fetch-and-carry man in midfield, Wee Billy stationed himself between Big Jack Charlton at the counter and myself in the doorway.

I took the orders from the gaggle of players and sports reporters who travel to these occasions, and Bremner conveyed them to Charlton, whose bizarre knack of making himself understood around the world in broad Geordie resulted in the drinks being passed back out to the hun-gover assembly.

A dozen beers, a few glasses of wine, a couple of mineral waters for the fainthearted . . .

and a double barasch for the tall gentleman in the long overcoat propped against the wall.

As he handed over the stained glass with the brown liquid crawling up the inside, Bremner stopped to inhale the fumes and grimaced. When the instant disappearance of Hungary's national liqueur was followed by the polite request for another large one, Bremner whispered: 'Who the hell is that?'

GEOFFREY GREEN of the Times, he was informed. The doyen o f a l l f o o t b a l l e r writers.

Bremner - pugnacious, combative, feisty, irreverent and blunt - was more of a tabloid street man than a broadsheet intellectual. But his first act upon arriving home was to place an order for the Times with his local newsagent. And the newspaper was duly delivered to him - until the day after Green died.

Not that he ever read it, he confided years later. Not once.

Not even when it catalogued the latest League or Cup triumph by Leeds or eulogised his own election to the pantheon of England's Footballers Of The Year.

Each day's copy of the Times remained rolled up on the hall table, his daily memorial to one of the few men who ever out-drank Leeds, home or abroad.

The loyalty burned into this 5ft 5in of fighting-cock foot-baller was as vivid as his mop of curly red hair. So was winning.

The title of Bremner's autobiography was his declaration of football priorities: You Get Nowt For Coming Second.

The gritty burr of Yorkshire pragmatism had been grafted onto the natural-born Scottish warrior - his home town of Stirling borders the battlefield of Bannockburn - from the winter's day in 1959 when he signed professional forms with Leeds.

From that moment hence, Bremner carried the standard for his club and country with passion and a deep-seated sense of family.

For that latter reason alone, the passing of each of these real football men deepens the impression that we may not see their like again.

Bremner not only loved his wife Vicki, his son Billy Jr and his daughters Donna and Amanda but embraced a lifetime devotion to them which could never be threatened by his celebrity.

Even so, he felt just as married to Leeds and just as closely related to his blood brothers in the team.

Bonds as powerful as these are forged in the heart and the soul, not the ego and the pocket.

Loyalty and winning were inseparable to Bremner's instinct; they were not the two distinctly opposite entities which the money-driven world of sport has made them.

It is sadly ironic that a man of such old-fashioned values should die so young. Like England's Bobby Moore, Scotland's Bremner has gone early. At 54.

MOORE died from c a n c e r , f o r n o apparent reason.

B r e m n e r w e n t without warning in hospital yesterday, apparently from the strains imposed on that stout heart by the cigarettes and all the hypertension which furrowed that worn face whenever he stormed into combat.

National icons, both.

Who knows? Perhaps history prefers us to remember our heroes as they are before the ravages of time make too many inroads.

Like the memory of Bremner on another Cold War night in Eastern Europe.

One of those frequent occasions, on and off the pitch, when he made it more a truism than a cliche for his old teammates to chorus yesterday that he would have been the first man they would have wanted alongside them in the trenches.

It was Bremner who, all those years ago, led the charge against the bouncers as we all fought our way, shoulder-to-shoulder, out of a rip-off nightclub . . . fearing only the wrath of Don Revie who was waiting in the hotel lobby.

That was how he played his football.

It was Revie, the Godfather of Elland Road, who recog-nised Bremner's leadership qualities and appointed him not just his captain but his elder son in the football family that was Leeds. As a young man unprepared to rest on the laurels of his exceptional talent, he was the archetypal Revie footballer.

BR E M N E R w o r shipped The Don, never tolerating one word against the man who cajoled and encouraged Leeds to become not only the finest football team in the land but also for a time the most r e v i l e d b u n c h o f a r c h professionals in Europe.

'Yes,' he said once, 'we probably were the most hated players, but we were honest to a man.' What others saw as gamesmanship and intimidation, Bremner and Revie and Charl-ton and the rest regarded as the ultimate in competitiveness. Bremner and John Giles were as ball-skilled and perceptive as any midfield players in Europe at the time.

But although both stood under 5ft 6in in those blue and white socks, only the bravest dared defy them on the field of battle as they won two League Championships, one FA Cup, one League Cup and two European trophies.

It might have been more but for Revie's natural caution. But Bremner was of a different character. In 586 appearances spanning 17 years, he suffered the disgrace of being sent off at Wembley for scrapping with his English counterpart, Kevin Keegan, and wound up with a picture of his famous spat with Scots countryman Dave Mackay occupying a permanent place on the walls at Tottenham's White Hart Lane.

But Revie was his surrogate father, and Bremner never let him nor Leeds down. Nor Scotland, for whom Bremner's more than half a century of appearances were crowned by victory at Wembley in England's first match after their 1966 World Cup victory.

Bremner promptly claimed the championship of the world on behalf of his Wee Blue Devils.

Loyalty and victory. Bremner kept them in the family. That was why he could always smile.

That was why football never stopped loving him when the magic waned during his doomed attempt to follow Revie into the manager's chair and he drifted back to Doncas-ter, back to a life as an after-dinner speaker, local radio commentator and enthusiastic golfer.

He lived to see George Graham begin the revival at his beloved Leeds and was happy for that, too. But he never made it to his 55th birthday tomorrow.

If our own priorities could only have remained as clearly defined and focused as Billy Bremner's, no matter what the pressures and pitfalls of the daily routine, we would all be on the early morning plane to Budapest, there to toast our comrade in life . . . in barasch.

Above: The young Bremner


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-231464/FA-Cup-winners-Don-Revie-Billy-Bremner-Why-I-raise-glass-barasch-wee-Billy-Bremner.html#ixzz3d33nfkzR
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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #34 på: Juni 14, 2015, 21:04:46 »
@TheLeedsSalute: Great effort from @tommyt9 and his mates on the weekend, commemorating King Billy. #28billybremners #lufc http://t.co/zAKNw3v27R

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« Svar #35 på: Juli 19, 2015, 23:36:47 »
@Brac4773: Dec 97. The players stand for a minutes silence at Chelsea following the death of the great Billy Bremner #lufc http://t.co/5nSqkxdzy8

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« Svar #36 på: November 18, 2015, 20:50:29 »
@MartinMarty1974: Leeds Utd in the 80s   When Billy Bremner Was  Sacked By Leeds United https://t.co/brOdyZIGiz
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« Svar #37 på: Desember 07, 2015, 22:58:26 »
18 years tomorrow we lost a proper #LeedsLegend. R.I.P. King Billy #lufc

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« Svar #38 på: Desember 07, 2015, 23:25:10 »
Et viktig mål av Billy



I april 1975 gir han Leeds ledelsen i 2-1 kampen mot  Barcelona (seminfinale i serievinnercupen)
For meg er det et av hans aller viktigste mål . Billy hadde en fin teft for avslutninger, i tillegg til gode lederegenskaper.

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« Svar #39 på: Desember 07, 2015, 23:51:48 »
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« Svar #40 på: Januar 10, 2016, 16:29:34 »
Herlig bilde - i en fantastisk drak!


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« Svar #41 på: Januar 10, 2016, 18:10:37 »
Et viktig mål av Billy



I april 1975 gir han Leeds ledelsen i 2-1 kampen mot  Barcelona (seminfinale i serievinnercupen)
For meg er det et av hans aller viktigste mål . Billy hadde en fin teft for avslutninger, i tillegg til gode lederegenskaper.

He was the king
 

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« Svar #42 på: Januar 11, 2016, 12:25:50 »
....Billy the king....!!
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« Svar #43 på: Januar 17, 2016, 11:15:32 »
Snø i Leeds i går:

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« Svar #44 på: Januar 17, 2016, 17:35:57 »
Jeg må innrømme at jeg ikke klarte å å følge så godt med Leeds i div 2 på 80-tallet, da Bremner var manager. Avisene i Norge skrev lite om Leeds,  så jeg leste vel bare Shoot av og til,  pluss tippestoff.    Semifinale og  Play off finale (med omkamp) , begge i  1987, er vel det som  huskes best. Jeg ser at Leeds slapp inn avgjørende mål i det  87.  min  (returkamp) og 117 min (omkamp). Vi var derfor meget nær opprykk med Bremner. Det samme kan sies om Wembley-finale, hvor vi tapte semifinalen   2-3 (mål i 99. min i e.o). Hadde en Leeds-trener klart dette idag  så ville han blitt en gud for oss!! Jeg mener å huske at  Leeds kjempet på øvre halvdel under  Bremner hver sesong?



Noen som vet noe mer om hans trenerkarriere (Bremner som type) og om man kan kalle det en suksess, med basis i hans arbeidsforhold i Leeds.?? Ser at Brødrene Snodin , Haddock og  Battey vare "up and coming" på hans tid i Leeds. :)

Noen som vet?
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« Svar #45 på: Januar 21, 2016, 16:06:56 »
Får vi tilbake så suksessfulle spillere i klubben?



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« Svar #46 på: Januar 21, 2016, 22:12:12 »
Jeg må innrømme at jeg ikke klarte å å følge så godt med Leeds i div 2 på 80-tallet, da Bremner var manager. Avisene i Norge skrev lite om Leeds,  så jeg leste vel bare Shoot av og til,  pluss tippestoff.    Semifinale og  Play off finale (med omkamp) , begge i  1987, er vel det som  huskes best. Jeg ser at Leeds slapp inn avgjørende mål i det  87.  min  (returkamp) og 117 min (omkamp). Vi var derfor meget nær opprykk med Bremner. Det samme kan sies om Wembley-finale, hvor vi tapte semifinalen   2-3 (mål i 99. min i e.o). Hadde en Leeds-trener klart dette idag  så ville han blitt en gud for oss!! Jeg mener å huske at  Leeds kjempet på øvre halvdel under  Bremner hver sesong?



Noen som vet noe mer om hans trenerkarriere (Bremner som type) og om man kan kalle det en suksess, med basis i hans arbeidsforhold i Leeds.?? Ser at Brødrene Snodin , Haddock og  Battey vare "up and coming" på hans tid i Leeds. :)

Noen som vet?
Bremner hadde en viss kortsiktig suksess men var i sum en liten katastrofe for klubben sett i retrospektiv. Han gav bort og solgte unna unge talenter som Dennis Irwin, Terry Phelan, John Scales, David Seaman, Andy Linighan, Ian Snodin m fl. for å finansiere kjøp av eldre og stort sett dårligere spillere. Klarte rett nok en 4 og 7 plass men kurven pekte jevnt nedover og det var en lykke for klubben da han ble sparket og erstattet av Wilko i sin tredje sesong. (88-89).

Spilleren Bremner kanskje den største, manageren definitivt  ikke...
« Siste redigering: Januar 21, 2016, 22:13:48 av Jon R »
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« Svar #47 på: Januar 22, 2016, 00:26:00 »
Jeg må innrømme at jeg ikke klarte å å følge så godt med Leeds i div 2 på 80-tallet, da Bremner var manager. Avisene i Norge skrev lite om Leeds,  så jeg leste vel bare Shoot av og til,  pluss tippestoff.    Semifinale og  Play off finale (med omkamp) , begge i  1987, er vel det som  huskes best. Jeg ser at Leeds slapp inn avgjørende mål i det  87.  min  (returkamp) og 117 min (omkamp). Vi var derfor meget nær opprykk med Bremner. Det samme kan sies om Wembley-finale, hvor vi tapte semifinalen   2-3 (mål i 99. min i e.o). Hadde en Leeds-trener klart dette idag  så ville han blitt en gud for oss!! Jeg mener å huske at  Leeds kjempet på øvre halvdel under  Bremner hver sesong?



Noen som vet noe mer om hans trenerkarriere (Bremner som type) og om man kan kalle det en suksess, med basis i hans arbeidsforhold i Leeds.?? Ser at Brødrene Snodin , Haddock og  Battey vare "up and coming" på hans tid i Leeds. :)

Noen som vet?
Bremner hadde en viss kortsiktig suksess men var i sum en liten katastrofe for klubben sett i retrospektiv. Han gav bort og solgte unna unge talenter som Dennis Irwin, Terry Phelan, John Scales, David Seaman, Andy Linighan, Ian Snodin m fl. for å finansiere kjøp av eldre og stort sett dårligere spillere. Klarte rett nok en 4 og 7 plass men kurven pekte jevnt nedover og det var en lykke for klubben da han ble sparket og erstattet av Wilko i sin tredje sesong. (88-89).

Spilleren Bremner kanskje den største, manageren definitivt  ikke...
Sessongen 86-87!! Der hadde vi max uttur.. Billy er Kongen :)

Josch

Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #48 på: Januar 22, 2016, 17:27:59 »
Billy er nok Kongen i Leeds, men både som spiller og manager ble det  veldig mye " nesten" for hans del.

Nesten opprykk (manger)
Nesten cupfinale (manger)
Nesten E-cup vinner (spiller)
Nesten The double (spiller)
Masse 2. plasser/tapte finaler (spiller)

Også som kaptein for Skottland ble det veldig mye "nesten" for landslaget (f.eks  VM 1974).
« Siste redigering: Januar 22, 2016, 20:31:06 av Josch »

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« Svar #49 på: Januar 22, 2016, 18:36:43 »
You're getting nowt for being second! = Bremners valgspråk!

 :D
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Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #50 på: Januar 11, 2017, 21:31:19 »



« Siste redigering: Januar 11, 2017, 21:36:37 av Asbjørn »
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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #51 på: Januar 11, 2017, 21:43:24 »




Men, akk slik skulle det ikke gå. Leeds tapte mot Black Cats i finalen. En kamp jeg så. Var utrolig snurt, husker jeg (dårlig taper).
"Jeg tror ikke på Gud, men etter Bielsas ansettelse må jeg nok revurdere", Roar Gustavsen, januar 2020

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #52 på: Desember 07, 2017, 22:47:37 »
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #53 på: Desember 15, 2017, 22:36:37 »
Fra Square Ball:

One of the problems we’re facing up to with Bremner Square is that our history has been neglected for so long. Since Billy Bremner’s statue was put in place in 1999, the only significant nod to our greats is the statue of Don Revie added in 2012, plus the two Trust-supported murals this year. But Revie’s statue was entirely fan-led and fan-funded, which was beautiful in its way, but highlighted how little Ken Bates, GFH or Massimo Cellino cared about the history of the club they’d bought. And no, Howard’s Restaurant doesn’t count. I happened to be present for the filming of Leeds United’s season ticket advert in 2015, watching as David Batty, Eddie Gray and Norman Hunter stood chatting together next to Billy’s statue, and Edoardo Cellino, wearing green plastic shades and followed by an entourage of idiots, marched straight past them without a glance. But then, when his dad took over and Dominic Matteo, Peter Lorimer and Eddie Gray’s ambassadorial roles at the club were ended, Edoardo tweeted that “they get paid for doing nothing”, so respect for history was never high on his agenda. Besides, he had an eye on the ‘paid for doing nothing’ gig for himself.

Neglecting our past for so long means there is a lot of catching up to do, and that conversations about the merits of one player or another quickly veer into disbelief that Bobby Collins or Jack Charlton or numerous others aren’t publicly acknowledged somewhere at Elland Road already. There’s almost a queue: we can’t talk about Strachan until we’ve done something for Collins. The length of time since anyone was last properly honoured at Elland Road causes the pressure on the club and the fans to vote carefully and get Bremner’s XI right, because not only are we trying to right the wrongs of the past, but we’re trying to get something right for the future.

There have been suggestions that it would be an insult to one player or another if they don’t make it to the Square. That’s an understandable way of looking at it, but awful. There are only ten spaces available, but everybody knows that many more than ten players deserve a place. Our history already encompasses much more than the names honoured at the stadium so far — the Bremner and Revie statues, the John Charles Stand — and our history survives. Johnny Giles, Allan Clarke or David Batty aren’t forgotten because they don’t have monuments now, nor will any important or popular player be forgotten or disrespected if they’re not included in Bremner’s XI. History is not a zero sum, and folklore doesn’t rely on stones or statues. They help, but memories live in stories, not stones.

But I also hope that, given so many former players have such strong claims for this honour, and given the difficulty and unavoidable unfairness of choosing, Bremner’s XI will not be the first, last and only addition to Bremner Square. I’m hoping that the club are seeing this first eleven as a start, and that we’ll be given the opportunity again to choose more players to take their place alongside Billy in an area devoted to our greats.

With ten stones in place after this poll, I’m hoping the club will repeat this as an annual exercise to add, say, three new stones a year, so that the honour is never closed, and we can all relax a little bit if Robert Snodgrass doesn’t make it this time — or if he does. If you like goalkeepers, it’s easier to vote for David Harvey or Gary Sprake this time around, knowing you’ll get chances to vote for John Lukic or Nigel Martyn in the future, and that eventually all four — Martyn probably the best, the other three all medal winners — can be accommodated as appropriate.

Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #54 på: Januar 23, 2018, 16:31:51 »
58 år siden debuten til Billy Bremner:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=k1H2olp86FY


« Siste redigering: Januar 23, 2018, 23:22:56 av Promotion 2010 »
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #55 på: Februar 12, 2018, 17:54:57 »
Fant seg ikke helt tilrette den første tiden i Leeds:

Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #56 på: Mai 14, 2018, 21:34:45 »
Herlig bilde, men hvilket trofee?


Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Reaney

Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #57 på: Mai 14, 2018, 21:54:20 »
Messeby cupén (senere UEFA cupén).

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #58 på: Mai 15, 2018, 10:53:01 »
Messeby cupén (senere UEFA cupén).

 :D
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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Sv: LEGENDE: Billy Bremner
« Svar #59 på: August 03, 2018, 19:36:02 »
Alltid med oss! Keep on Fighting:

Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973