LEGENDE: Peter Lorimer

[sveifors]

Nå må dere slutte å tyne Lorimer. Synes det er blitt altfor lavt under taket. Ingen tåler at man er uenig lenger, da er man igang med ord som forakt osv. Alle vil Leeds sitt beste, da blir det forskjellige meninger. Hva vet vi forløperen til disse uttalelsene til Lorimer. Hva annet er blitt sagt? Slutt å dømme uten å vite alt.
Husker at på den tiden var Grayson var desperat etter å hente enda flere forsvarere og hadde fått beskjed om å selge før han fikk hente flere. Grayson hadde det problemet at han hentet spillere men klarte ikke få seg til å få unna daukjøtt. Vi hadde vel en a-stall på oppimot 30 spillere.

Det foregår mye i kulissene, mye blir sagt her og der. Synes ikke det er riktig å sette seg til doms over et lite sitat tatt ut av sammenhengen. Det kan sikkert finnes mange sitater som stiller Grayson i dårlig lysr motsatt veg.

Slutt å kreve at vi må alle være 100 % enige hele tiden eller er ord som hat og forakt som flyr rundt. Vi skal være uenige innimellom, det er sunt.

Vær saklig uenig og tål at andre er uenig, argumenter.

Lorimer var min barndoms helt på banen, en av vår største legender, både med antall kamper, lojalitet til klubb og scoringer. Jeg kan være uenig i mye av hans meninger, han er en ex-fotballspiller, that's it.

Peter vil det samme som oss, suksess til Leeds. , tål at folk er uenige.

[Tom S]

Nå må dere slutte å tyne Lorimer. Synes det er blitt altfor lavt under taket. Ingen tåler at man er uenig lenger, da er man igang med ord som forakt osv. Alle vil Leeds sitt beste, da blir det forskjellige meninger. Hva vet vi forløperen til disse uttalelsene til Lorimer. Hva annet er blitt sagt? Slutt å dømme uten å vite alt.
Husker at på den tiden var Grayson var desperat etter å hente enda flere forsvarere og hadde fått beskjed om å selge før han fikk hente flere. Grayson hadde det problemet at han hentet spillere men klarte ikke få seg til å få unna daukjøtt. Vi hadde vel en a-stall på oppimot 30 spillere.

Det foregår mye i kulissene, mye blir sagt her og der. Synes ikke det er riktig å sette seg til doms over et lite sitat tatt ut av sammenhengen. Det kan sikkert finnes mange sitater som stiller Grayson i dårlig lysr motsatt veg.

Slutt å kreve at vi må alle være 100 % enige hele tiden eller er ord som hat og forakt som flyr rundt. Vi skal være uenige innimellom, det er sunt.

Vær saklig uenig og tål at andre er uenig, argumenter.

Lorimer var min barndoms helt på banen, en av vår største legender, både med antall kamper, lojalitet til klubb og scoringer. Jeg kan være uenig i mye av hans meninger, han er en ex-fotballspiller, that's it.

Peter vil det samme som oss, suksess til Leeds. , tål at folk er uenige.

Jaggu godt sagt!

[Hallgeir *]

Nå må dere slutte å tyne Lorimer. Synes det er blitt altfor lavt under taket. Ingen tåler at man er uenig lenger, da er man igang med ord som forakt osv. Alle vil Leeds sitt beste, da blir det forskjellige meninger. Hva vet vi forløperen til disse uttalelsene til Lorimer. Hva annet er blitt sagt? Slutt å dømme uten å vite alt.
Husker at på den tiden var Grayson var desperat etter å hente enda flere forsvarere og hadde fått beskjed om å selge før han fikk hente flere. Grayson hadde det problemet at han hentet spillere men klarte ikke få seg til å få unna daukjøtt. Vi hadde vel en a-stall på oppimot 30 spillere.

Det foregår mye i kulissene, mye blir sagt her og der. Synes ikke det er riktig å sette seg til doms over et lite sitat tatt ut av sammenhengen. Det kan sikkert finnes mange sitater som stiller Grayson i dårlig lysr motsatt veg.

Slutt å kreve at vi må alle være 100 % enige hele tiden eller er ord som hat og forakt som flyr rundt. Vi skal være uenige innimellom, det er sunt.

Vær saklig uenig og tål at andre er uenig, argumenter.

Lorimer var min barndoms helt på banen, en av vår største legender, både med antall kamper, lojalitet til klubb og scoringer. Jeg kan være uenig i mye av hans meninger, han er en ex-fotballspiller, that's it.

Peter vil det samme som oss, suksess til Leeds. , tål at folk er uenige.

Jaggu godt sagt!

Enig i det.

[sportcarl1]

Nå må dere slutte å tyne Lorimer. Synes det er blitt altfor lavt under taket. Ingen tåler at man er uenig lenger, da er man igang med ord som forakt osv. Alle vil Leeds sitt beste, da blir det forskjellige meninger. Hva vet vi forløperen til disse uttalelsene til Lorimer. Hva annet er blitt sagt? Slutt å dømme uten å vite alt.
Husker at på den tiden var Grayson var desperat etter å hente enda flere forsvarere og hadde fått beskjed om å selge før han fikk hente flere. Grayson hadde det problemet at han hentet spillere men klarte ikke få seg til å få unna daukjøtt. Vi hadde vel en a-stall på oppimot 30 spillere.

Det foregår mye i kulissene, mye blir sagt her og der. Synes ikke det er riktig å sette seg til doms over et lite sitat tatt ut av sammenhengen. Det kan sikkert finnes mange sitater som stiller Grayson i dårlig lysr motsatt veg.

Slutt å kreve at vi må alle være 100 % enige hele tiden eller er ord som hat og forakt som flyr rundt. Vi skal være uenige innimellom, det er sunt.

Vær saklig uenig og tål at andre er uenig, argumenter.

Lorimer var min barndoms helt på banen, en av vår største legender, både med antall kamper, lojalitet til klubb og scoringer. Jeg kan være uenig i mye av hans meninger, han er en ex-fotballspiller, that's it.

Peter vil det samme som oss, suksess til Leeds. , tål at folk er uenige.

instämmer till fullo, och det ha sa om grayson är ju ingenting emot  den skit han fått ta bara för att han är styrelseledamot i LUFC,

[Cherry]

Peter sendte meg sin autograf  gjennom Eric Carlisle i 1977.... Og vil alltid være min helt - sammen med Sniffer Clarke og Mick Jones.... Makan til angrepsrekke med Eddie  på venstre ving!!!
f**k Bates som " kjøpte Peter" inn i styret for å skaffe seg goodwill hos oss supportere, for Peters" økonomi er/ var etter d jeg vet .... Skral!!!

Peter er en legende, uansett......Holbeck blir snart bare leiligheter, men er man i Leeds på fotballhelg så er Commercial Inn ett " Must"!!!

[Kontakinte]

Jeg registrerer og setter pris på deres meninger!! Har vært på Leeds julebord i Tønsberg i kveld, en kjempe aften med gode og nye venner.. Takk til Terje for et vell gjenomført arrangemang. MOT!!

[chief]

Fyller 67 år idag.

Fikk presangen du ønsket deg i ettermiddag

GRATTIS

[morty]

Fyller 67 år idag.

Fikk presangen du ønsket deg i ettermiddag

GRATTIS

[Cherry]

Lorimer er flink til å snakke for seg fortsatt:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-more-than-points-at-stake-over-christmas-lorimer-1-6334376

[fmtj]

Peter Lorimer er og blir en legende!!!

[ØBS]

Er det noen som har hørt med LORIMER da, hva som ble sagt og gjort...? 

Eller der det slik at Grayson har rett uten at motstander har fått mulighet til å uttale seg...?

Min gamle helt og nå personlige venn får ikke gå ukritisk av hva han måtte si og mene av undertegnede, men han skal da få mene hva han vil og forsvare seg der det blir begått urett...

MOT...

[Jon R]

Er det noen som har hørt med LORIMER da, hva som ble sagt og gjort...? 

Eller der det slik at Grayson har rett uten at motstander har fått mulighet til å uttale seg...?

Min gamle helt og nå personlige venn får ikke gå ukritisk av hva han måtte si og mene av undertegnede, men han skal da få mene hva han vil og forsvare seg der det blir begått urett...

MOT...

Denn tråden er over et år gammel, Øyvind. Graysons uttalelser den gang var  først og fremst basert på hva Lorimer faktisk har skrevet i spalten sin og ikke hva  han har sagt....

[Promotion 2010]

Lorimer samles i en tråd! 

[Asbjørn]

Lorimer samles i en tråd! 

A good move

[Asbjørn]

Peter Lorimer, mannen unge Leedsfolk elsker å disse (mest i England though), snakker fortsatt sense:
Peter Lorimer: Leeds United are far from finished article but are making headway
If I was Massimo Cellino, I’d be happy with the way Leeds United’s season is going.


The first month-and-a-half has been demanding and tough so to reach this stage with 10 points â€" three short of the Championship play-offs â€" is good going in my book.

We’ve had a couple of poor performances and a few bad results but no more than I’d expect from a club who are going through the type of changes we’re seeing at Elland Road.

I don’t care who your coach is or how much money you’ve spent on new players â€" make 15 signings during the transfer window and you’re going to need a bit of breathing space to sift through the options and find a successful formula.

People have a tendency to look automatically at Leeds whenever they talk about clubs in a bit of difficulty but I could name plenty of other clubs in the Championship who are in exactly the same situation.

We play Huddersfield Town on Saturday and I doubt they’ll be throwing any stones at us. They’ve changed their manager already, they’ve lost four of their first seven games and they’re in the relegation places. Blackpool are a mess and Fulham can’t seem to get started at all. Cardiff, Brighton and Derby have all been slow off the mark.

When you’re in a position where things are taking time to settle down, the worst thing you can do is worry about other teams. Hard work and perseverance pull a good side together and gradually, we’re starting to see that happen at Leeds.

It would be wrong to say that we look like the finished article. If anything, we’re miles off still. We deserved four points from Birmingham and Bournemouth â€" two tough away games, let’s be fair â€" but we could have lost both games after starting them so slowly. Parts of our displays were excellent and other parts were poor.

If you look closely, though, you’ll see players growing in confidence and growing together.

The aim now must be to put a top performance together for 90 minutes but when this Leeds team play well, as they did in the last half-hour against Bournemouth on Tuesday, it looks like the plan is falling into place.

I never really doubted that we had good players at the club. How good and how far they’d go in the Championship I really couldn’t predict because many of the signings were unfamiliar but if you read about their backgrounds and pedigrees, it was obvious that many of them were bringing ability and talent to the table.

The goalkeeper, Marco Silvestri, continues to impress me and he was outstanding at Bournemouth.

If it wasn’t for him, we’d have lost that game by half-time. When Souleymane Doukara gets going, he’s strong and physical and difficult to deal with. At full tilt he could be a major threat to clubs in this league. It’s just a case of getting him to full tilt.

There are homegrown prospects too â€" Lewis Cook, Alex Mowatt, Sam Byram and so on â€" and quite a few signings who we’ve not really had a look at yet so I do feel quietly excited by it all. But the biggest thing by far is the fact that the side are now oozing genuine enthusiasm.

I got the feeling that the squad had quite a lot of time for David Hockaday but the way things were going with him as head coach, the atmosphere around the club wasn’t great. That always filters through to the players and I’m sure they felt a bit flat at the end of last month.

A few weeks on, they look full of confidence. The owner’s already said that Neil Redfearn won’t be taking the head coach’s job on full-time but Redfearn can hold his head high, knowing that he’s helped to bring the season under control.

It’ll be easier for a new coach coming in now than it would have been at the end of last month.

Would I have taken 10 points from the first seven games? Absolutely.

I’d have been tempted at the start of the season and I’d have bitten your hand off on the night when Hockaday was sacked.

People like to think of Leeds as a club in turmoil or crisis but what they’re really seeing at Elland Road is a club in transition. Yes, there are ups and downs but a tally of 10 points means we’re better off than half of the clubs in the the league.

Offered that, I think Huddersfield would bite your hand off too.

The balance is in our favour with Saturday’s derby looming and I hope we take it to them from the start â€" and show that we’re in business.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/peter-lorimer-leeds-united-are-far-from-finished-article-but-are-making-headway-1-6846373

[Hallgeir *]

Gratulerer, Peter!


United legend inducted into Scottish Football's prestigious list...

Published 28 October 2014 at 08:00

Many congratulations to United legend Peter Lorimer who was inducted into the Scottish Football Hall of Fame at Hampden Park on Sunday evening.

Peter joins former United team-mates Billy Bremner, Joe Jordan, Gordon McQueen and Eddie Gray on a star-studded list at the Scottish Football Museum.

Football fans from all over the world nominated players, managers and officials who they thought should be recognised for their contribution to Scottish football.

Then a panel of experts from football and the media considered the nominees and had the difficult task of whittling them down to five.
 
The Hall of Fame, situated in the Scottish Football Museum at the National Stadium, Hampden Park, honours individuals who have made a significant contribution to Scottish Football.

Peter made his United debut aged just 15 and is the youngest player ever to have played for the club.

In two spells at Elland Road he made an astonishing 779 appearances and scored a remarkable 255 goals.
 
Famed for having one of the hardest shots in football, he hit a penalty that was recorded at 107 miles per hour. He was also voted the ninth greatest Leeds player of all time.
- See more at: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/1jha64t9c79k81noomf1uy94p8/title/lorimer-enters-hall-of-fame#sthash.z6D0HOoq.dpuf

[sportcarl1]

är han verkligen värd, här kan vi tala om en verklig legend

[Asbjørn]

For alle Lorimer-fans blant ... i alle fall de av oss som har passert middagshøyden - det er ikke mye det postes i  Lorimer-trådene, gett

Det er sjelden han er såpass klar og tydelig i kritikken av lagdeler, som han er i ukens YEP-spalte:



Leeds United: We need to bring in a top-class central defender â€" Lorimer


by  Peter Lorimer   published 15:20 Thursday 01 October 2015 

I HAVE said since the start of the season that I am not happy with the central defence at Leeds United and certainly nothing has changed after Sunday.



We have had Giuseppe Bellusci, Sol Bamba and Liam Cooper since the start of the season and you can put Scott Wootton in as well and to me, we need a top-class central defender.

 
There’s no doubt about that in my mind. Despite all four of them, I don’t think we are strong enough there.

It is a position which is bothering me and it is beginning to get more and more evident and in the spotlight, certainly after the Middlesbrough game.


Maybe now we will do something. We need to sort it out.

We are lacking a bit of pace and while some are decent players, some think they are better players than they are in my view.

A defenders’ job is to win the ball and clear their lines. They haven’t got to look pretty and at the end of the game, if you have conceded no goals, you have done your job. You don’t have to try and dress things up and be clever.

You can’t take chances. Bamba does it every single match; every match he seems to try to be too clever. Defenders are not there to be clever, they are there to do a job.




When Bamba is doing it properly and attacks the ball, he’s very good. But he has this thing where he seems to feel he must show a little bit extra. Central defenders don’t do that; just get the ball and pass it on. And do your job â€" stop the opposition from scoring.

For the goal against Brentford, he lost the ball and they nipped away and scored. I know the game was over at Middlesbrough on Sunday when he made that error. But he has these real lapses in concentration.

Bellusci also made a big mistake after being called back in and it is funny that him and Cooper seem to be rotated a bit at the minute. Maybe this is a bit of the way in modern-day football where there’s a bit more squad rotation to keep players involved.

We have a problem with Bellusci too and have a problem with him and Bamba. If opponents have a pace of pace, we are in a bit of trouble.




With Bellusci’s header, it should not be put down to communication as both he and Marco Silvestri are Italian and it shouldn’t have been a language problem.

Whether the keeper shouted and Bellusci threw himself at the ball and ignored it, I don’t know.

But we have been making mistakes on a regular basis. In the past, we have had keepers coming out and colliding with a defender and things like that. For whatever reason, the communication doesn’t seem as good as it should be between the goalkeeper and his defenders.

Middlesbrough weren’t in a different class to us on Sunday. But they got what they did due to lapses in our defence.

I hope we learn lessons fast as mistakes are happening too frequently.

It’s a big game for us against Birmingham on Saturday with us not winning at home yet. We really have got to give the fans something.

It has been very disappointing at home, to be honest. I don’t really think we have gone out and attacked teams. For me, we have been a little bit negative.

Whether the players are nervous or not, I don’t know. We certainly haven’t dominated matches.

I notice Lee Erwin scored a couple for the under-21s on Monday and has spoken about how a loan spell and run of games might help him and be a sensible move.

But I do feel sorry for the lad. There’s been times in games, especially at home, when he has been on the bench and hasn’t been put on.

In the Sheffield Wednesday game, with ten or 15 minutes to go, I think it would have been a great chance to put him on. What a chance for a young lad to come on and get the winner.

He has proved in the Scottish Premier League that he can score goals and for me, he’s a decent player.

For whatever reason, it is not happening for him down here. For me, it is no good for him playing in under-21 games as he has reached a certain standard and can only go back doing that.

If it means going out on loan, so be it. But from what I saw of him last season, there’s a decent player in the making.

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-lufc-news/leeds-united-we-need-to-bring-in-a-top-class-central-defender-lorimer-1-7491722

[RoarG]

Selvsagt går dette til Røsler, som er ansvarlig for alt sportslig. Det er bra at han har styrket angrepet i sommer, men lag bygges bakfra. Med Wottoon, Bellusci i laget kan Leeds aldri bli noe topplag. Neste sommer må forsvaret spikres.

[Kontakinte]

Selvsagt går dette til Røsler, som er ansvarlig for alt sportslig. Det er bra at han har styrket angrepet i sommer, men lag bygges bakfra. Med Wottoon, Bellusci i laget kan Leeds aldri bli noe topplag. Neste sommer må forsvaret spikres.

Får du ta med Cooper (klasse?)NOT! og Bamba i samme slengen.

[Eriksen55]

Selvsagt går dette til Røsler, som er ansvarlig for alt sportslig. Det er bra at han har styrket angrepet i sommer, men lag bygges bakfra. Med Wottoon, Bellusci i laget kan Leeds aldri bli noe topplag. Neste sommer må forsvaret spikres.

Får du ta med Cooper (klasse?)NOT! og Bamba i samme slengen.

Og Byram om han skal være back!

[Promotion 2010]

Hva skjer med Petter....? Merkelig at han får skrive så mye som en linje:



Peter Lorimer: Cellino can get it right at Leeds United provided he is given the time

Former Leeds United chairman Ken Bates, right, and ex-chief executive Shaun Harvey, like current owner Massimo Cellino, have come in for abuse from fans during their time at Elland Road.
Peter Lorimer
17:00Thursday 05 November 2015   06:11Friday 06 November 2015

HAVE YOUR SAY
The current situation at Leeds United and the pressure on Massimo Cellino saddens me.

My view on Massimo has always been clear: with him we’ve found an owner who has the finances and ideas to get it right at Elland Road. I genuinely believe that.

Unfortunately, what we keep getting time after time is a group of people who seem determined to hound and hassle owners until they give up and walk away from the club. It has to stop because, in the long-term, it’s not going to do the club any good at all.

I joined the board at Leeds when Gerald Krasner’s consortium took over in 2004. In that spell one of the club’s directors, David Richmond, had the gates of his house chained up and graffiti sprayed on the walls. Ken Bates got no end of abuse while he was in charge and there were times when Shaun Harvey needed police protection outside his home. That’s totally wrong.

Massimo is getting the same treatment. His family had to move away because of the abuse they were receiving in the street. In the past 11 years, four different owners have come under attack and been forced into a position where they had to sell â€" the Krasner group, Ken, GFH and now Massimo. I don’t know exactly what Massimo will do now but he’s very disillusioned. I’d like to think that things can be patched up but I honestly have my doubts.

It’s the not the majority who want him to go. To speak to the people who come into my pub, the fans I talk to on the street, I’m 100 per cent certain of that.

The pressure on him is coming from the same small minority who always think they have the right to speak louder than everyone else and decide what goes on here.

Yes, we’re all frustrated. There was so much optimism a couple of months ago and now it’s doom and gloom again but that’s in no small part due to results. I accept that Massimo does things his own way but some of the criticism of him has been very unfair.


Uwe Rosler, for example, had to go. That’s the way I saw it. He’d been backed heavily in the summer and to be perfectly honest, very few of the performances in his 12 games impressed me. It’s not like Massimo wants to be paying people off but that was the right decision. He got slated for it anyway.

I saw the supporters group Leeds Fans United talking about buying him out earlier this week, although that seems to have fallen through now. I don’t know if they had the money or if they didn’t, but from what I was reading, they’d raised about £500,000.

In reality it’s going to take £30m to £40m to buy this club so you have to question whether they could have got the cash together or provided funding in future. Football clubs like ours need big finance. I’m sorry but they do. Massimo has money, there’s no doubt about that, and he’s put plenty into the club.

And when you speak to him in private, you find out how badly he wants it to work. Given enough time I think he’ll make it happen in a very, very tough division. But it’s obvious now that he’s not going to get that time.


What worries me is where we go next. Does anyone really think that the way in which owners are treated here will encourage people to invest? Will they not look at the language and the louts who’ve abused Massimo’s family and think ‘that’ll be me if I stick my money in’?

There are too many factions and too much anger. The constant aggression and fighting can’t go on.

I don’t believe that lots of wealthy people are out there waiting to buy Championship clubs. I just don’t see it.

A minority are trying to chase Massimo out without being able to say what will replace him.

It’s all very well talking about a fans’ buy-out but what if that goes wrong? What if it doesn’t work or they can’t find the funds? Do we turn on them too?

I’ve said before that we can be our own worst enemies at times.

The best scenario now would be to restore some calm, let things settle down, let Steve Evans gets a few players in and look for the results to turn around fully. Because the way football works, if the team gets on a roll then suddenly Massimo will be in favour again, just like he was at the start of the summer.

I think he can do it here. But I’m honest enough to realise that he might be sick of all this. And I can understand why.

[Asbjørn]

Hva skjer med Petter....? Merkelig at han får skrive så mye som en linje:

Som regel syns jeg han har mye bra å komme med. Men her er jeg dundrende uenig. Det er et par av disse eierne som har ...laget ris til egen bak. Ã... gå løs på hus & familier er dog ikke helt tingen... 

[Kato]

Hva skjer med Petter....? Merkelig at han får skrive så mye som en linje:

Som regel syns jeg han har mye bra å komme med. Men her er jeg dundrende uenig. Det er et par av disse eierne som har ...laget ris til egen bak. Ã... gå løs på hus & familier er dog ikke helt tingen... 

Han har jo et poeng når det kommer til folkeskikk....

[sportcarl1]

Hva skjer med Petter....? Merkelig at han får skrive så mye som en linje:

Som regel syns jeg han har mye bra å komme med. Men her er jeg dundrende uenig. Det er et par av disse eierne som har ...laget ris til egen bak. Ã... gå løs på hus & familier er dog ikke helt tingen... 

Han har jo et poeng når det kommer til folkeskikk....

jo det är sant, frågan är vem som vill vara ägare till slut.

[Sterland]

Hva skjer med Petter....? Merkelig at han får skrive så mye som en linje:

Som regel syns jeg han har mye bra å komme med. Men her er jeg dundrende uenig. Det er et par av disse eierne som har ...laget ris til egen bak. Ã... gå løs på hus & familier er dog ikke helt tingen... 

Han har jo et poeng når det kommer til folkeskikk....

+1

[samadhi]

Dersom Cellino skal få tid må Cellino først og fremst gi managarene tid.

[lojosang]

Dersom Cellino skal få tid må Cellino først og fremst gi managarene tid.

Han fikk 25 år i Clagliari, og har intet å vise for det. Han har fått mer enn nok tid.

[Hallgeir *]

Peter Lorimer er 69 år i dag. 

Gratulerer med dagen!

[auren]

Hipp, hipp Lorriz 

auren