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« Svar #30 på: Juni 01, 2015, 17:57:23 »
European Cup final 1975
Leeds United v Bayern Munich
Even the scoreboard showed Peter Lorimer's goal should of stood! http://t.co/j9kDStZDdQ

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« Svar #31 på: September 18, 2015, 17:08:28 »
@TBG2005: Dettmar Cramer, coach of 1975 European Cup finalists Bayern Munich, has died aged 90. #lufc
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« Svar #32 på: Oktober 10, 2015, 15:28:25 »
@MartinMarty1974 yBayern Munich have won 5 European Cups.  The only have 4 stars on their badge.  Admitting 75 was stolen?
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #35 på: Januar 29, 2016, 15:15:24 »
Litt fra kampen i fine farger:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jdclgBRP3Iw





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Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #36 på: Januar 29, 2016, 17:32:53 »
Leeds gjorde en god lamp og var det beste laget. Synd med  denne dommerskandalen som alle snakket om etterpå.  Det var litt typisk at dette måtte skje akkurat Leeds.  Det medførte at fansen gikk amok, og  at Leeds ble utestengt fra Europa i noen år . Vi ble vel nr 5  påfølgende ligasesong og burde deltatt i UEFA-cup da.  Neste E-cup for Leeds var vel høsten 1979?
 8)
Det var selvsagt et hard slag økonomisk og gjorde Leeds mindre attraktive mht spillere man kunne kjøpt. Europa-spill teller selvsagt mye når spillere velger  klubb.  Leeds "døde" på en måte  litt etter denne kampen.


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« Svar #37 på: April 13, 2016, 15:33:14 »
2016:

Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

Josch

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« Svar #38 på: April 15, 2016, 17:58:15 »
2016:



Leeds' finale i 1975  var før CL -tiden,  da man måtte vinne ligaen for å delta i den største Europacupen. Semifinalen i 2001 kom etter en 3. plass i serien hjemme.

For  å komme i dette selskapet bør man først ha vunnet ligaen hjemme og deretter vunnet sine kamper i CL/Europacupen, mener jeg. Her er Leeds en av få som har klart dette  i England (1975).

Få av de engelske  lagene har klart å gå til semifinalen i Europa etter et ligamsterskap.
Enda færre har nådd finalen etter en ligatittel året før.

Jeg kommer bare på Leeds, Man U , Nott Forest og Liverpool som har nådd finale som regjerende seriemester. Eller tar jeg feil?

En som vinner CL idag uten å være seriemester  er IKKE  EKTE Europacup-vinner!!!
« Siste redigering: April 15, 2016, 18:02:56 av Josch »

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« Svar #39 på: April 15, 2016, 21:47:11 »
2016:



Leeds' finale i 1975  var før CL -tiden,  da man måtte vinne ligaen for å delta i den største Europacupen. Semifinalen i 2001 kom etter en 3. plass i serien hjemme.

For  å komme i dette selskapet bør man først ha vunnet ligaen hjemme og deretter vunnet sine kamper i CL/Europacupen, mener jeg. Her er Leeds en av få som har klart dette  i England (1975).

Få av de engelske  lagene har klart å gå til semifinalen i Europa etter et ligamsterskap.
Enda færre har nådd finalen etter en ligatittel året før.

Jeg kommer bare på Leeds, Man U , Nott Forest og Liverpool som har nådd finale som regjerende seriemester. Eller tar jeg feil?

En som vinner CL idag uten å være seriemester  er IKKE  EKTE Europacup-vinner!!!

Enig   +1
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Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

berlin

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« Svar #40 på: April 16, 2016, 16:27:52 »
Glemmer ALDRI den kampen.

Jeg har i blant spurt meg selv om jeg hadde blitt like lidenskapelig Leeds-fan hvis vi hadde vunnet kampen,
og ikke tapt den. Jeg vet ikke. F.o.m. den dagen var jeg komplett besatt av Leeds, og er selvfølgelig det fortsatt.


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« Svar #41 på: April 19, 2016, 20:28:03 »
Derfor jeg hater BM ja! På lik linje med `pool :(
Ingen av disse lagene hører til mine yndlingslag, akkurat. Synes det er fint hver gang de taper, særlig BM. I grunnen synd at Atletico Madrid ikke slo BM i tilsvarende finale i '74. De ledet 1-0 til så og si overtid i 2. ekstraomgang, da en BM-forsvarer i ren desperasjon måkte til ballen fra ca. 25 meters hold. Markryperen snek seg inn på den sleipe matta, og kampen endte 1-1. I disse tider, hadde man ikke straffekonk, så det ble spilt omkamp. Denne vant dessverre BM komfortabelt 4-0.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_European_Cup_Final

Som tittelforsvarer, ble BM automatisk kvalifisert for Europacupspill 74/75. Resten av historien kjenner vi dessverre så altfor godt.
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« Svar #42 på: April 19, 2016, 20:51:53 »
Jeg må innrømme at jeg  holdt med  AstonVilla og Nottingham i de finalene de spilte (mot Bayern og HSV/ Malmø), 1979/80/82. Denne perioden må ha vært en av britisk fotballs beste perioder.
?

Likte aldri Bayern etter at de slo Leeds. (en kjøpt  dommer og skattesnusk med  Hoenness senere.)
« Siste redigering: April 22, 2016, 21:36:46 av Josch »

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« Svar #43 på: April 22, 2016, 19:57:09 »
Uff ! Svir enda å bli minnet om denne kampen  :( . Så kampen på tv, da var jeg 13 år gammel. Har fortsatt traumer og hater fortsatt BM etter deres og dommerens feige oppførsel. Tiden leger ikke alle sår  :'(
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Viking- Leeds United  0-1    Tilsk. 9.429. 
Mc. Niven 22 min. Banens beste; Billy Bremner.   
Etter at Leeds United hadde fått sitt honorar satt Viking igjen med kr. 50 i overskudd til tross for 9.429 på tribunen.

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« Svar #44 på: Mars 02, 2018, 11:53:53 »
Leeds United Memories
Paris 1975 #lufc
The scoreboard says it all
It was a goal!!
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« Svar #45 på: Mars 02, 2018, 16:31:47 »
Yes, it was!  >:(

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« Svar #46 på: Mars 02, 2018, 19:41:26 »
Finnes det et bra youtube sammendrag fra denne kampen?

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« Svar #47 på: Mars 02, 2018, 19:53:15 »
Finnes det et bra youtube sammendrag fra denne kampen?
Er 52 minutter fra første omgang detaljert nok? :o  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bov7NckEIFo

...og 54 minutter fra andreomgangen :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8uTFlnHvAU
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« Svar #48 på: Mars 03, 2018, 20:21:42 »
Finnes det et bra youtube sammendrag fra denne kampen?
Er 52 minutter fra første omgang detaljert nok? :o  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bov7NckEIFo

...og 54 minutter fra andreomgangen :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8uTFlnHvAU

Jau takk Asb! Det var nesten for meget uten engelske kommentatorer. Det andre sammendraget jeg fant var elendig.

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« Svar #49 på: Mars 03, 2018, 22:50:21 »
Ett ran!!
UEFA / FIFA kunne vel gjort noe med denne ift dommer som var betalt..... men så var det mot giganten Bayern M da...... den gang var det enorm korrupsjon ift " gave- muligheter" ute og gikk mot dommere....

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Satt og grein foran TV som 14- åring.
 


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« Svar #51 på: Mai 25, 2018, 22:18:51 »
Finns det noen gode bilder av målet som ble annullert og hvor står spilleren som sto i offside?

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« Svar #52 på: Mai 25, 2018, 22:43:14 »
https://www.bayernforum.com/blog/happy-birthday-frank-gray-an-analysis-of-the-european-champions-cup-final-of-1975

Googlet litt, og her er en Bayern Mûnchen-vinkling av det hele...

Mens Zobel som spilte kampen også innrømmer at det egentlig var et (godkjent) mål...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbgQdT8eviI
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« Svar #53 på: Mai 26, 2018, 02:08:17 »
Takker! Meget tvilsom offside ja. Kan vel ikke si at han påvirker spillet på noen måte....

Ellers er det vel svakt keeper spill på første målet i mot

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« Svar #54 på: Mai 26, 2018, 10:28:46 »
Takker! Meget tvilsom offside ja. Kan vel ikke si at han påvirker spillet på noen måte....

Ellers er det vel svakt keeper spill på første målet i mot

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Jeg tror det var litt andre regler den gang. Sto man i offside så ble man avblåst uansett. Det holdt vel å være på linje (linjeoffside).

Tom Lund satt i NRK-studio og mente Bremner ble dyttet inn i offside, husker jeg.

Det rare er jo at linjemann ikke vinket offside men i stedet snakket med dommeren etter godkjenning av målet. Og da ble det annulert.

Det virket som linjemannen ble påvirket av Bayern-  spillernes protester. Flere mener at Beckenbauer "fikset" denne annuleringen med sin opptreden. Plutselig ombestemte linjedommeren seg.

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« Svar #55 på: Februar 12, 2019, 20:34:29 »



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« Svar #56 på: Februar 13, 2019, 07:59:24 »
Phil Fraser

I always think we shoukd have a black star above our crest (to show the European Cup we were robbed of). How about it for our centenary shirt @andrearadri ? #WACCOE #LUFC

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« Svar #57 på: Februar 13, 2019, 09:37:40 »



WACCOE

Likar den. Trur me seier at Leeds blir tilkjent ein 3-0-siger i finalen i 1975, og dermed blir dei også vinnarar av Serievinnarcupen i 1975  ;)
Spøk til side, dette burde faktisk blitt gjort av UEFA i ettertid >:(.
 

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« Svar #58 på: Februar 13, 2019, 11:19:39 »
Jeg har opplevd mange skuffelser i løpet av mine 50 år som Leeds-tilhenger (de største nedturene kom i storhetstiden, paradoksalt nok), men tapet mot Bayern Munchen toppet alle andre nedturer. Det var rett slett en grusom opplevelse.

Det skjedde mye rart den kvelden i Paris. Ikke minst ble vi vitne til flere horrible dommeravgjørelser, der så og si alle gikk i vårt disfavør.

Men det er en episode som aldri blir nevnt når det kampen blir diskutert, men som så absolutt bør nevnes: Da Terry Yorath ødela karrieren til Bayerns svenske høyreback Björn Andersson, med en grusom stempling – lenge etter at dommeren hadde blåst.
Episoden skjedde i det fjerde spilleminuttet. Og det var en helt bevisst handling fra Yorath.

Så hadde dommeren gjort jobben sin i det tilfellet hadde Yorath blitt utvist – og vi måtte ha spilt så og si hele kampen med en mann mindre. Og da hadde vel mest sannsynlig sluttresultatet blitt omtrent som det ble, helt uten unødvendige anstrengelser fra hverken dommer, linjemann eller Franz Beckenbauer…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ6YOhJhiCk

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Conspiracy and Injustice? The 1975 European Cup Final

October 12th 2016
Following Brian Clough’s disastrous 44 days in charge at Elland Road, Jimmy Armfield somehow guided what was left of Don Revie’s Leeds side into the European Cup final in Paris on May 28th 1975. Bayern Munich eventually won the match 2-0, but the game was not without controversy and to this day remains one of the most talked about European Cup finals of all time – for all the wrong reasons.

Having won the league the year before in a campaign that finally saw them lose their “nearly men” reputation, Leeds had now earned the right to play the best sides on the continent for the right to call themselves champions of Europe in the days when only the best qualified for the tournament.

Domestically, though, Leeds United were a shadow of the side who had claimed the Division One crown the previous season. Manager Don Revie had left to manage the England side and was replaced by Brian Clough; an appointment which was unpopular to say the least as Clough had often made public his dislike for both Revie and his Leeds players.

After Clough’s infamously short-lived time in the Leeds hot-seat – a period which had seen his team win just one game out of their first six and the new boss fall out with several key players – United’s directors decided to sack Clough, a humiliation he never truly recovered from.

Taking what was now seen as a “poison challis” was former England international Jimmy Armfield, who had previously managed Bolton Wanderers, had inherited much of Revie’s league winning side as he tried to get the side back on-track. However, the reigning champions of England would only finish 9th in a season which was salvaged thanks to a memorable, if not infamous, European campaign.

Having despatched Zurich FC 5-3 on aggregate in the first round of Europe’s premier trophy, Leeds progressed to face somewhat unknown opposition in the form of Hungarian outfit Újpesti Dózsa, who they ultimately breezed past 5-1 over two-legs. In the quarter finals Leeds comfortably got past Anderlecht, which meant they would now face the mighty Barcelona in the semi-final.

Barca were a team of stars under the guidance of the legendary Rinus Michels who had won the Spanish League with ease a year earlier. They were desperate to go one better and win the European Cup and boasted the likes of Johan Cruyff and Johan Neeskens in their ranks. But the Catalans were no match for a strong and skilful side who would not be intimidated by anybody, no matter how famous or glamorous.



Leeds United's Allan Clarke

A 2-1 win in the first-leg at Elland Road set the tie up perfectly and when United extended their lead at the Nou Camp after Lorimer latched on to a Jordan flick Leeds looked to be as good as in the final. However, Barcelona had other ideas and in the second half, Clares got one back; but the English side held out to reach their first ever European Cup Final.

To mark the 20th anniversary of the competition, UEFA decided to hold the 1975 final in Paris, the very city where Real Madrid had lifted the first European Cup back in 1956. So it was that the reigning champions would face a Leeds side that, although they had won six major titles in the previous decade, had finished as also-rans on 10 other occasions and were determined that they would not be the bridesmaids once more.

United’s opponents, Bayern Munich, had endured something of a troubled season themselves. Despite having won the cup the year before, they had finished this campaign firmly in mid-table and only beating Leeds in the final would ensure qualification for next season’s tournament – unlike today when a 4th place finish will do.

So, as the biggest team in Germany, cup holders and well respected giants of European football lined-up to take on the less attractive yet just as dangerous Leeds United in the French capital, something had to give. Many predicted a riot and they weren’t disappointed.

In fact it took only four minutes before things turned ugly when Terry Yorath’s challenge led to on Bjorn Andersson being carried off. “It was the most brutal foul I think I have ever seen,” Uli Hoeness later said. Yorath avoided a red card, but that would probably be the only thing that went Leeds’ way that night.



Leeds United's Peter Lorimer

Leeds dominated the early stages and Bayern spent much of the first half defending, it appeared to be only a matter of time before the opening goal, then came two of the most contentious issues in the history of European finals.

What looked like a clear handball inside the box by Beckenbauer went unnoticed by the referee who waved away the Leeds player’s protests and then, just minutes later, the very same German defender smashed into Clarke inside the penalty area for what looked like a clear foul. Even Beckenbauer later admitted that the second incident should have been a penalty, but on both occasions French referee Michel Kitabdjian gave absolutely nothing.

If that decision led to the bemusement of the United players and thousands of Leeds fans who had crossed the channel, worse was to follow 20 minutes into the second half. When Johnny Giles sent over a free-kick, and the ball broke loose in a crowded area, Peter Lorimer smashed it into the net for the opening goal of the game. Leeds fans and players celebrated wildly, but their joy was cut short as the referee disallowed the goal for offside, even though the linesman kept his flag down.

Lorimer remembers the incident well; “I can picture the finish clearly,” he later explained. “I caught the ball perfectly on the volley and smashing it into the corner of the net. The first thing I did was look at the referee because I wanted to make sure he’d awarded it. He pointed clearly to the centre circle. There was no reaction from the linesman, or nothing. Then Beckenbauer started having words with Kitabdjian and to our total disbelief, the goal was ruled out.”

Replays later showed the decision was marginal at best, but the mood had turned quickly and what was already a tense atmosphere was about to get much, much worse. Many Leeds fans were unable to contain their sense of frustration and missiles now began to rain down from behind one of the goals.

“There’s no doubt in my mind that Leeds were robbed,” said former boss of England’s match officials Keith Hackett when looking back at the incidents. “The penalty was nailed on and, although Bremner was given offside under the law interpretation of the day, he actually wasn’t. He was close to it but not quite. The tell-tale sign that the officials were swayed by protest is that the linesman had actually run back to halfway before he was consulted. He could have flagged but he didn’t do so.”

With 20 minutes remaining, and the French referee still giving nothing Leeds’ way, things got worse as a shot from Franz Roth, following a neat passing move, crept past David Stewart. Leeds fans began to use anything they could get their hands on as missiles while others attempted to climb the wall that stood between them and the pitch as fighting broke out between the fans and the French



Bayern Munich vs Leeds United

Nine minutes from time and the result was put beyond doubt when Bayern counter-attacked again and Muller scored at the near post. Bayern’s fans celebrated wildly while at the other end Leeds fans were looking to exact a little retribution.

After the game, in his post-match press conference, Leeds Manager Jimmy Armfield was a little more diplomatic in his assessment of the officiating. “I did not agree with his decisions, but that’s football,” he told reporters. “I thought the decisions hurt our team. If anything we had too much of the ball. We did all the running and tired ourselves out. The lads played well. They played their hearts out and I think that makes it worse.”

Somebody who was not so pragmatic was Leeds striker Peter Lorimer, who later revealed his inner feelings to the Yorkshire Evening Post about that night. “Cheating is the only way to describe what went on at the Parc de Princes 40 years ago,” he said. “Sorry if that offends anyone but it’s how we felt. When it comes to apportioning blame, you’ve got to point the finger at the referee first and foremost.

Great player though he was, Beckenbauer was well known for getting in the ears of referees. It’s what he did. I’d seen it when he played for Bayern and I’d seen it when he played for Germany. I’m still convinced that he was responsible for persuading the officials to disallow my goal in the second half. Uli Hoeness, their forward, was interviewed on TV and asked about 1975. In his own words, he said that the result was a travesty. The better team lost and they lost for no other reason than the performance of the referee. I can’t disagree.”

Lorimer’s feelings were shared by the Leeds fans who were already seething at the decisions they felt had gone against them and decided to take out their anger on whatever they could find. The trouble that continued long into the night resulted in a German TV operator suffering an eye injury,  a photographer a broken arm, the smashing of a £50,000 television camera, not to mention brawls in the city that lasted long into the night and damage to private property.

Such was the level of violence UEFA even considered the possibility of abandoning European competition altogether but settled for banning Leeds United from the continent’s top competition for four years, though it mattered little as it would be another 17 years before they qualified for the tournament again.

To this day nothing can be proven about the decisions that were or weren’t made by French referee Michel Kitabdjian that night at the Parc des Princes and the actions of the Leeds United supporters certainly can’t be justified; but what is sure is that even after 40 years, the events of that night still rankle with the supporters and officials of Leeds United, as well as providing something of an unheeded warning of further trouble that was to blight European football in the years to come.
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973