EX-eier: Ken Bates

[Kickthemdown]

Johnson og Kilkenny er ikke gode nok viss vi vil at klubben våres skal forbedre seg.
1. pri må være å få inn to killere på midtbanen som kan erstatte Johnson og Kilkenny.
Howson bør rendyrkes i den offensive rollen på midtbanen.

Veldig enig  

Bates propagandaen funker bra på norske fans ser jeg. Hadde pengene vært stilt til rådighet så hadde vi hatt nye spillere i januar. Mye misnøye blant supporterne på diverse forum etter Swansea kampen så han følel vel at han må ut å roe massene litt...

[Jon R]

Johnson og Kilkenny er ikke gode nok viss vi vil at klubben våres skal forbedre seg.
1. pri må være å få inn to killere på midtbanen som kan erstatte Johnson og Kilkenny.

Enig!

Ettersom det tilsynelatende er enklere å få en kamel gjennom et nåløye enn å finne midtbanespillere som er bedre enn Kilkenny & Johnson, bør vi tilby de nevnte herrer livstidkontrakt for å sikre at vi har en sentral midtbane overhodet.  

[testo]

Taken from Yorkshire Radio’s interview with Leeds United chairman Ken Bates today…

‘Mr Chairman’ reveals we have been searching for a loan signing or two. The failure to do this sooner is down to all number of things but it’s certainly not his fault. And if you still think it may be his fault then there’s a reminder that financial oblivion in football isn’t too far away. To be fair, most of us know that considering we were in that position under a certain chairman just a couple of years ago. Moving on, he let’s us know that draws aren’t as good as wins and welcomes our new Academy Manager, who turns out to be Gwyn Williams’ mate. Elsewhere, the fact that 2,596 people decided not to renew their season tickets early is ‘overwhelming’ and ‘amazing’, while there is also a new early renewal period for members… at an increased price… and even more if you don’t sort it out before then. But don’t worry if you don’t renew because there’s thousands of Norwegians “who we can have a go at” convincing to cough up £27 to sign up.
Tusen vis    

Last but not least, there’s a match against Donny, the final-day TV move and killer sentence to end on.

Ben Fry: Chairman, we’ll start with the loan market. Does the search continue to bring in a couple of fresh faces as we go into the run-in?

Ken Bates: Yes, it is continuing. We hope to make one or two signings this week or next. But the problem is that you have to understand that we are only interested in signing players from the Premiership because nobody competing with us is going to let their players out, just as we are not going to let any of our players out to our competitors. So you now have a situation where we are trying to sign Premiership players and the question is, who is available? The other problem is that Premiership clubs themselves are now experiencing injuries and fixture congestion. The two or three targets that Simon has had in mind, we had provisionally agreed to take them. Their present clubs have now put them on hold because they are concerned that they may not have enough cover themselves. The second problem is that there is no point signing a player who is rusty and hasn’t been playing football reasonably regularly otherwise we’ve only got 12 games to go and it’s no good bringing a player in who needs three or four games to get fit. And the third issue is that some agents now are saying that because they know their players are out of contract at the end of the summer, they are saying that if they come on loan now they want a contract for next season. We’re naturally saying we’re not going to buy a pig a poke, especially a player on Premiership wages. So there’s a lot of negotiations going on and it isn’t as easy as the ordinary fan might think. There’s no point in us getting a player to give us a boost now and signing him at a very high price for the future, which again will hamstring the manager’s budget for 2011/11. In your phone-in, somebody said that without and knowledge or justification that he thought we hadn’t signed players because of Ken Bates’ wages policy. Well that maybe so, because Ken Bates’ wage policy is we’re not going to spend money we haven’t got. I think it was overemphasised by the fact that yesterday Aston Villa announced a £32million… £32MILLION loss. And that’s because of their £19MILLION turnover last year, they spent £18million of it on wages. Oldham hadn’t paid their February wages on time, Plymouth haven’t paid any of their staff for two months. This financial crisis, which has been on the horizon for some time, and some clubs have been blissfully ignoring it is now coming home to roost on a number of clubs. We are not going to get involved in that situation and there are one or two players at Leeds United who may be facing the same problem in May. What we’re saying is, if we get promoted this year then player’s salaries will get reviewed because we know we can afford but we are not making long-term commitments on a promise of future performance. And that is the only limit to Ken Bates’ wage policy. For the good and future of Leeds United. Having said that, we have 12 games to play and we’re looking forward to winning some of them. The first thing we have got to do is plug our leaky defence which has now conceded eight goals in three games. It isn’t acceptable.

BF: You mention 12 games to go, do you see it as all still to play for or do you think second place is still a possibility?

KB: Well it’s becoming increasingly difficult as the games trickle away. Same old story, too many draws. We’re drawing games that we should win. In the old days, years and years ago when it was two points for a win and one for a draw, when you got a draw you said “well we picked up a point” but with three points for a win and one for a draw you now regard a draw as not having gained a point but dropped two. And we’re dropping too many two points, which I think Simon and his backroom staff are addressing.

BF: You mentioned the backroom staff, there has been an appointment this week to the backroom team â€" Chris Sulley has joined as the new academy manager. What pedigree does he bring to the role?

KB: To start with, I think we have to go back to probably last year, when we decided the quality of players coming through and the fact that our youth team were bottom of the league, that changes had to be made. But there’s no point in replacing the then incumbents with somebody else just for the sake of making a change. I think it’s a significant tribute to the diligence of the manager and Gwyn Williams, the head of football, that they have taken over four months to make an appointment. That indicates their determination to get it right. A lot of youth team managers and so on and so forth are ex-players who sometimes they were assistant managers or first team coaches. Sometimes they were even managers and then they sort of take this job as academy director as a last resort because they are looking for a job. Chris Sulley is different. He started at Chelsea as a kid and Gwyn knew him of old so there is form there if you like. So we know a lot about his character. Secondly,  when he finished quite a reasonable journeyman’s footballing career, he had played over 400 games, he went straight into youth. So has been concentrating on youth for over 10 years now and his current position before he joined, he was in fact a freelance consultant to the FA and one or two other clubs. During that time he spent time at his own expense travelling Europe to see how other countries tackle their youth challenges, particularly Holland which is generally regarded as having the best system in Europe. So he comes in and he hits the ground running, knowing what he wants to do and having done it elsewhere. So we are very pleased to have him. He lives in Darwin in Lancashire, he joined us on Tuesday March 1 and he is already house hunting. He’s not going to commute from Lancashire, he’s going to move into Yorkshire, which again is a good positive sign. And I think we have laid the foundations for hopefully a very successful renaissance of our youth policy, which had stalled. We’re the biggest club in Yorkshire. Yorkshire is the biggest county, it’s population is bigger than Scotland , it’s bigger than Northern Ireland, there should be enough talent there to start building a homegrown team of Yorkshire boys at Leeds leavened with a few international quality stars and that’s our target.

BF: On Friday, the deadline closed for the early renewal period on season tickets. How many renewals did you get in the end and were you pleased with the response?

KB: I’m actually overwhelmed with the response. For this season, we have got 13,096 season tickets and that includes the 20-year season tickets which were honoured after the administration. As of Friday night, we actually sold 10,500. In fact, as of last night, we had so many season tickets coming in over the weekend we still had 1,740 season tickets left to process which is, well, amazing. I don’t know how else you can describe it. It’s a sign of the support and loyalty of our fans. Now season tickets for people who didn’t renew are the earlybird price, the season tickets go on sale from Saturday to the 18th of March. I’ll repeat that, from Saturday until the 18th of March. The 18th of March is the deadline for fans to claim their current seat. After the 18th of March, we will not be processing season tickets until further notice but we think until after the end of the season. And then we have to review which league we are in, whether we’re in the Championship or the Premiership.

BF: Now whilst we’re talking about season tickets, fans can now renew their membership as well for 2011/12. And once again there is an early renewal price available.

KB: Yep, the new prices are until the 30th of April. People can renew their memberships online only until the 30th of April. If people don’t renew before 30th of April, either because they can’t use computers or they don’t know anybody who can, then they will receive their renewals forms through the post from the 1st of May. Don’t forget people who joined the extra time memberships for 09/10 and 10/11, yours is also available until the 30th. Of course, anybody can still now take out an extra time membership for now and next season. And I have to say that as we speak, so far this season, we have 38,900 members which is a record. And it’s still climbing. Once again, we’re obviously very pleased. And we welcome another branch from Ireland, the Navan Whites from County Meath. They make our 61st regional member’s club, which is absolutely fantastic. There are now 18-20 people in the process of forming their club, which is tremendous. You’re going to have to work much harder next year with Leeds on the Road to make sure everybody gets their fair share.

BF: Do you see 40,000 members as a realistic target for next season?

KB: I would hope so yeah. We have got quite a few people in Norway who are not yet members because the application form was a bit difficult to translate into Norwegian so we are doing a simplified format for that because there are three or four thousand people over there who we can have a go at.

3-4000    Er han klar over hva han sier denne karen eller

BF: Now next up on the playing field, it’s Doncaster Rovers in another Yorkshire derby at Elland Road on Saturday. Are you enjoying the amount of Yorkshire derbies this season?

KB: I love derbies because obviously because local derbies are great fun, a great atmosphere, we’re looking for 27,000-28,000 at the game this Saturday. Doncaster of course, had a crippling run of defeats and injuries so the fact they went to Derby last night and won 3-1 was very encouraging. Now they have broken their duck, maybe they can go back to losing ways.

BF: And one final issue before we let you go today, the Football League have moved the last day of the season from Sunday the 8th of May to Saturday the 7th of May to suit the TV companies. Are you surprised, given how far in advance these things are planned, that the Football League made this decision?

KB: I think that they probably [this bit makes no sense, presume it was an editing error by YR] ironed their parlours would come on thinking that ooh we are going to one lie. I’m not too bothered because we’re playing QPR so it’s Saturday instead of Sunday, it’s probably better for our fans who can go and enjoy Sunday off. But we are in danger of becoming a total slave to TV. We at Leeds are fighting to try keep it within reasonable consideration. Finally, our average gate this season before Saturday, we budgeted for 25,000 and it’s 26,920. Which again, is a sign that Leeds are back. So we’re getting there, step-by-step, brick-by-brick.
http://www.thesquareball.net/what-ken-said/2011/03/02/join-the-club/

[Jon R]

BF: Do you see 40,000 members as a realistic target for next season?

KB: I would hope so yeah. We have got quite a few people in Norway who are not yet members because the application form was a bit difficult to translate into Norwegian so we are doing a simplified format for that because there are three or four thousand people over there who we can have a go at.

3-4000    Er han klar over hva han sier denne karen eller

Dette burde da ikke være noe problem. Jeg vet om flere nordmenn som gladelig betaler 250-300 kroner for et medlemskap de strengt tatt ikke har noen nytte av. Bates gir fansen en mulighet til å sponse klubben slik at den får mer handlefrihet. Enten støtter man klubben eller ikke. Burde ikke være problem for norske lønninger. 27 £ for et år har til å med en fattig student penger til.

Dette betaler vi med glede. For å sette det litt i perspektiv tilsvarer medlemskapet 3-4 pakker sigaretter, 3-4 bokser snus, 5-6 halvlitere med pubøl eller annet godt man kan behage sitt legeme med for skarve 250-300 kroner fordelt på 365 dager. Det vil glede meg om klubben tjener noen pund på det også.  

Bra vurdering av Bates dette.  

[auren]

Veldig sannsynlig at oss "so called supporters" vil punge ut 27 pund i året 

auren

[Sydhagen]

Veldig sannsynlig at oss "so called supporters" vil punge ut 27 pund i året 

auren

Så lenge vi befinner oss utenfor PL så har jeg ingen problemer med å betale 27 pund for denne tjenesten. Men blir en annen sak når opprykket kommer.

[torivar]

BF: Do you see 40,000 members as a realistic target for next season?

KB: I would hope so yeah. We have got quite a few people in Norway who are not yet members because the application form was a bit difficult to translate into Norwegian so we are doing a simplified format for that because there are three or four thousand people over there who we can have a go at.

3-4000    Er han klar over hva han sier denne karen eller

Dette burde da ikke være noe problem. Jeg vet om flere nordmenn som gladelig betaler 250-300 kroner for et medlemskap de strengt tatt ikke har noen nytte av. Bates gir fansen en mulighet til å sponse klubben slik at den får mer handlefrihet. Enten støtter man klubben eller ikke. Burde ikke være problem for norske lønninger. 27 £ for et år har til å med en fattig student penger til.

Dette betaler vi med glede. For å sette det litt i perspektiv tilsvarer medlemskapet 3-4 pakker sigaretter, 3-4 bokser snus, 5-6 halvlitere med pubøl eller annet godt man kan behage sitt legeme med for skarve 250-300 kroner fordelt på 365 dager. Det vil glede meg om klubben tjener noen pund på det også.  

Bra vurdering av Bates dette.  

Stå på Jon R

[Promotion 2010]

Veldig sannsynlig at oss "so called supporters" vil punge ut 27 pund i året 

auren

Så lenge vi befinner oss utenfor PL så har jeg ingen problemer med å betale 27 pund for denne tjenesten. Men blir en annen sak når opprykket kommer.

Midt på det mørke 80-tallet valgte jeg å kjøpe en sesongbillett for å støtte klubben i nedgangstider. Jeg overvar ikke en eneste kamp!


Selvsagt sponser vi klubben med de midlene vi har til rådighet! 


Hilsen en "so-called supporter"! 

[torivar]

Veldig sannsynlig at oss "so called supporters" vil punge ut 27 pund i året 

auren

Så lenge vi befinner oss utenfor PL så har jeg ingen problemer med å betale 27 pund for denne tjenesten. Men blir en annen sak når opprykket kommer.

Midt på det mørke 80-tallet valgte jeg å kjøpe en sesongbillett for å støtte klubben i nedgangstider. Jeg overvar ikke en eneste kamp!


Selvsagt sponser vi klubben med de midlene vi har til rådighet! 
Hilsen en "so-called supporter"! 

Henger meg på denne

[Superfan]

£ 27 er jo en piss i havet for de fleste av oss, og pengene går jo til et godt formål. Jeg er med på dette.

[h.b]

Sponser gjerne den dagen Bates kan fremlegge bevis på hvor penga går. Finansierer ikke Bates sin egen lommebok

[Leedsfan]

Sponser gjerne den dagen Bates kan fremlegge bevis på hvor penga går. Finansierer ikke Bates sin egen lommebok

De fleste som driver butikk tar ut penger av firmaet hvis det overskudd. Er ikke du selvstendig næringsdrivende, tar du ut lønn?

[blikko]

Valgte å bli members tidligere i høst. Hadde med guttungen over på dobbelkampen nå i februar, kjøpte billetter på familietribunen. Sparte da inn hele membersmedlemskapet på hans rabatterte billetter. Samt at 10 prosent rabatt i shoppen utgjorde 400 kr, så kan man jo si at jeg faktisk har tjent penger på medlemsskapet

[testo]

£ 27 er jo en piss i havet for de fleste av oss, og pengene går jo til et godt formål. Jeg er med på dette.

27 Pund er vel ikke problemet her men at mannen kan si at det står på en oversettelse for å få 3- 4000 medlemmer fra Norge er jo blank løyn.

[testo]

Sponser gjerne den dagen Bates kan fremlegge bevis på hvor penga går. Finansierer ikke Bates sin egen lommebok

De fleste som driver butikk tar ut penger av firmaet hvis det overskudd. Er ikke du selvstendig næringsdrivende, tar du ut lønn?

Og ALLE som driver butikk som du kaller det MÃ... legge frem regnskapet sitt. Men Bates driver ikke vanlig butikk, butikken er registrert på ett eller annet slik at han ikke trenger å legge frem en dritt for offentligheten (mener det er noe slikt)

[Runar]

Regnskapene for Leeds United er offentliggjort

[testo]

Er det bare eierskapet som ikke er offentliggjort da?

[torivar]

Sponser gjerne den dagen Bates kan fremlegge bevis på hvor penga går. Finansierer ikke Bates sin egen lommebok

De fleste som driver butikk tar ut penger av firmaet hvis det overskudd. Er ikke du selvstendig næringsdrivende, tar du ut lønn?

Og ALLE som driver butikk som du kaller det MÃ... legge frem regnskapet sitt. Men Bates driver ikke vanlig butikk, butikken er registrert på ett eller annet slik at han ikke trenger å legge frem en dritt for offentligheten (mener det er noe slikt)

Herlig

[testo]

Sponser gjerne den dagen Bates kan fremlegge bevis på hvor penga går. Finansierer ikke Bates sin egen lommebok

De fleste som driver butikk tar ut penger av firmaet hvis det overskudd. Er ikke du selvstendig næringsdrivende, tar du ut lønn?

Og ALLE som driver butikk som du kaller det MÃ... legge frem regnskapet sitt. Men Bates driver ikke vanlig butikk, butikken er registrert på ett eller annet slik at han ikke trenger å legge frem en dritt for offentligheten (mener det er noe slikt)

Herlig

Hva skal man tro når regnskapet for 2009 er slettet.
The document 'LUFC Ltd accounts Year Ended 30th June2009' has been deleted
http://www.scribd.com/deleted/29804606

[Leedsfan]

Sponser gjerne den dagen Bates kan fremlegge bevis på hvor penga går. Finansierer ikke Bates sin egen lommebok

De fleste som driver butikk tar ut penger av firmaet hvis det overskudd. Er ikke du selvstendig næringsdrivende, tar du ut lønn?

Og ALLE som driver butikk som du kaller det MÃ... legge frem regnskapet sitt. Men Bates driver ikke vanlig butikk, butikken er registrert på ett eller annet slik at han ikke trenger å legge frem en dritt for offentligheten (mener det er noe slikt)

Så lenge han følger engelsk lov så kan man vel ikke bruke det imot han, eller?

[h.b]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

[DenHviteYeboah]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

Det nytter ikke hb...noen VIL ikke se hele bildet

[ollan]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

Det nytter ikke hb...noen VIL ikke se hele bildet

og hva er hele bildet? Fortell fortell!!

[lojosang]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

Det nytter ikke hb...noen VIL ikke se hele bildet

og hva er hele bildet? Fortell fortell!!

UFOen fra den ett år gamle youtubevideoen VG har som toppsak for tiden er garantert muligens involvert. 

[DenHviteYeboah]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

Det nytter ikke hb...noen VIL ikke se hele bildet

og hva er hele bildet? Fortell fortell!!

jeg synes jarle har forklart dette glimrende i Bates trådene.Anbefaler deg å lese disse ;)da kan du jo danne deg et bilde..vi blir jo bare beskyldt for surmuling, så da er det jo greit å lese tidligere innlegg.På den måten slipper  jarle,hb og undertegnede å bli beskyldt for å forpeste forumet slik vi tidligere har hørt

[B_Ød]

27 pund...

[Promotion 2010]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

Det nytter ikke hb...noen VIL ikke se hele bildet

og hva er hele bildet? Fortell fortell!!

UFOen fra den ett år gamle youtubevideoen VG har som toppsak for tiden er garantert muligens involvert. 

Men her er det ikke mjauing, men gnål om det samme hele tiden som er gjennomgangsmelodien! 

[DenHviteYeboah]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

Det nytter ikke hb...noen VIL ikke se hele bildet

og hva er hele bildet? Fortell fortell!!

UFOen fra den ett år gamle youtubevideoen VG har som toppsak for tiden er garantert muligens involvert. 

Men her er det ikke mjauing, men gnål om det samme hele tiden som er gjennomgangsmelodien! 

på linje med det gnålet ditt om at alt er sin skjønneste orden meBates drift av klubben...

[Promotion 2010]

Nei men når han ikke kan si et eneste ord om hvor pengene er blitt av. Ja da stoler jeg ikke på denne gamle gubben

Det nytter ikke hb...noen VIL ikke se hele bildet

og hva er hele bildet? Fortell fortell!!

UFOen fra den ett år gamle youtubevideoen VG har som toppsak for tiden er garantert muligens involvert. 

Men her er det ikke mjauing, men gnål om det samme hele tiden som er gjennomgangsmelodien! 

på linje med det gnålet ditt om at alt er sin skjønneste orden meBates drift av klubben...

Det er ikke gnål, det er mjauing! 

[Dennis]

Sponser gjerne den dagen Bates kan fremlegge bevis på hvor penga går. Finansierer ikke Bates sin egen lommebok

De fleste som driver butikk tar ut penger av firmaet hvis det overskudd. Er ikke du selvstendig næringsdrivende, tar du ut lønn?

Og ALLE som driver butikk som du kaller det MÃ... legge frem regnskapet sitt. Men Bates driver ikke vanlig butikk, butikken er registrert på ett eller annet slik at han ikke trenger å legge frem en dritt for offentligheten (mener det er noe slikt)

Herlig

Hva skal man tro når regnskapet for 2009 er slettet.
The document 'LUFC Ltd accounts Year Ended 30th June2009' has been deleted
http://www.scribd.com/deleted/29804606

Fra samme siden:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35918889/Leeds-United-Accounts-Year-ended-30th-June-2009