Skrevet av Emne: EX-eier: Ken Bates  (Lest 362075 ganger)

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Dennis

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« Svar #1980 på: Juli 26, 2013, 21:09:57 »
Men i jøss! Hadde trodd dette var Ken Bates' siste spark mot fansen - en ærestittel - og så er han plutselig ute?!

Deilig!
Marching on together!

Erik_

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« Svar #1981 på: Juli 26, 2013, 21:18:57 »
Prett!! ;D

ArneS

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« Svar #1982 på: Juli 26, 2013, 21:22:45 »
About effing time!
Den 17. mann

Oppdrettslaksen

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« Svar #1983 på: Juli 26, 2013, 21:29:25 »
Get the f**k in! Fantastisk herlig!  ;D

Hallgeir *

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« Svar #1984 på: Juli 26, 2013, 21:49:27 »
Super Leeds since 1968

Annesj

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« Svar #1985 på: Juli 26, 2013, 21:59:02 »
YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Marching on together
We're gonna see you win (na, na, na, na, na, na)
We are so proud
We shout it out loud
We love you Leeds - Leeds - Leeds

ollan

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« Svar #1986 på: Juli 26, 2013, 22:01:03 »
Ken who???
Ollan

Gufrias

Sv: Bates
« Svar #1987 på: Juli 26, 2013, 23:05:47 »
Det blir mindre og mindre å gnåle over i denne klubben. Irriterende  >:( ;)
Hekta på Leeds siden 1974

Jon R

Sv: Bates
« Svar #1988 på: Juli 26, 2013, 23:49:19 »
Endelig!!!!!!  En gledens dag for alle som er glad i Leeds United. Mannen som har styrt oss gjennom 9 år med negativitet og sportslig armod er omsider UTE av klubben!!!  Hvor er fanfare og champagne smileyen når vi trenger den?   ;D ;D  ;D ;D
Jon R.

auren

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« Svar #1989 på: Juli 27, 2013, 00:01:59 »
Føler dessverre vi fortsatt er på stedet hvil. No monitas... Ingen champis å sprette for min del...

auren
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Jon R

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« Svar #1990 på: Juli 27, 2013, 00:08:09 »
Føler dessverre vi fortsatt er på stedet hvil. No monitas... Ingen champis å sprette for min del...

auren

Med Bates ute kommer det garantert til å bli enklere å knytte til seg investorer og sponsorer.  Stein for stein, men vi er godt på vei. Ventetida snart over nå.......
Jon R.

Odin

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« Svar #1991 på: Juli 27, 2013, 10:00:44 »
Fantastisk nyhet at Bates er ute av klubben!
Dette har jeg og mange ventet på lenge, og føyer seg inn i rekken av positive tiltak I LUFC den siste tida..
Flere supportere har sagt at de ikke setter sin fot på Elland Road før "the evil one has gone"
Nå håper jeg de løper og kjøper sesongkort!
MOT og et par signeringer neste uke please....

Sydhagen

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« Svar #1992 på: Juli 27, 2013, 10:01:35 »
Føler dessverre vi fortsatt er på stedet hvil. No monitas... Ingen champis å sprette for min del...

auren

Med Bates ute kommer det garantert til å bli enklere å knytte til seg investorer og sponsorer.  Stein for stein, men vi er godt på vei. Ventetida snart over nå.......

Tenkte det samme.
Kan dette være et krav fra en eventuell sponsor/investor? (f.eks. Red Bull?)
"Paynter, a striker whose danger factor is akin to a blind sniper, who has no fingers, or a gun."

sveifors

Sv: Bates
« Svar #1993 på: Juli 27, 2013, 11:29:32 »
Flott at den fæle diktatoren er borte ;D

Ville ikke ha en ny
Sveifors

Always look on the LEEDS side of life

sveifors

Sv: Bates
« Svar #1994 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:00:36 »
Han gikk trolig ikke frivillig:

http://t.co/U5QQU2paDo
Sveifors

Always look on the LEEDS side of life

Hallgeir *

Sv: Bates
« Svar #1995 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:02:55 »
Han gikk trolig ikke frivillig:

http://t.co/U5QQU2paDo

Hjerteskjærende scener....  :o
Super Leeds since 1968

Andersen

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« Svar #1996 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:04:46 »
GODT AT DEN MANNEN ENDELIG ER UTE AV LOKALENE PÃ… ELLAND ROAD!  ;D

Jørn Egil

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« Svar #1997 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:05:10 »
Spekulerer i hvorfor man gjør dette en fredagskveld? Er det lov å håpe det måtte gjøres før en stor investor offentliggjøres i forbindelse med kampen idag? MOT

DenHviteYeboah

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« Svar #1998 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:16:12 »
Jipppppppppppppppppppppppppiiiiiiiiiii!

Odin

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« Svar #1999 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:16:53 »
Jeg trodde Bates måtte beholdes siden han også kontrollerte Elland Road stadion og Thorpe Arch gjennom sine lugubre forbindelser og selskap..
Da er det sikkert ikke tilfelle....I så fall en ny lettelse

lojosang

Sv: Re: Bates
« Svar #2000 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:19:33 »
Men drepte Dødehavet og kontrollerer været gjør han fortsatt.
- Leif Olav

B_Ød

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« Svar #2001 på: Juli 27, 2013, 12:51:42 »
"puh"....en merkedag!
Ups & Ups!!

Promotion 2010

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« Svar #2002 på: Juli 28, 2013, 00:16:49 »
Jeg trodde Bates måtte beholdes siden han også kontrollerte Elland Road stadion og Thorpe Arch gjennom sine lugubre forbindelser og selskap..
Da er det sikkert ikke tilfelle....I så fall en ny lettelse

Det er vel nettopp derfor han fikk sparken. Ville tjene to ganger på salget. NB! 1/3 cash , 1/3 ved opprykk, 1/3 tilbakekjøp av Elland Road.

Kunne ikke gå det, fordi Bates har eierinteresser i Elland Road.
Min første Leeds-kamp:
Strømsgodset vs Leeds, 19.september 1973

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« Svar #2003 på: Juli 28, 2013, 00:47:12 »
Ken 'I never took a penny out of the club' Bates. #lufc

Hjelpe meg, en million i året for flyvninger mellom Monaco og Leeds...

Og nå signet han (uten styregodkjennelse) en ny treårskontakt som kostet ca 4,5 mill over tre år...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/27/ken-bates-sacked-leeds-jet

Ken Bates: I was sacked as Leeds president because of jet contract
• Bates says he 'did it in the best interest of the club'
• Cost of jet thought to be £500,000 over three years
• Abrupt exit brings to an end five controversial decades


Ken Bates says he was abruptly sacked from his tenure as the Leeds United president by the new owners, GFH, after he entered the club into a contract with the private aeroplane company 247 Jet that could be used to fly him to Leeds from his Monaco home.

The cost of this contract to which Bates committed the Championship club, which is under financial strain, is thought to be £500,000 over three years.

Previously Bates has been flown by private jet. The costs of use of a private jet to the club is understood from sources who have seen the Leeds accounts to be around £120,000 a year. He told the Observer that his expenses had not changed for the eight years he was Leeds chairman, and that GFH were well aware of them when they bought the club in December. He declined to cover the details of precisely what they covered.

A key sticking point with GFH is that Bates did not gain the approval of the board for the new, three-year private jet contract. Bates argues he was not able to do so, and he was advised in June that as a director of the club, he was able to bind the club into the contract.

"I saved the club money, because this was a sterling contract, rather than euros," Bates said. "I did it in the best interests of the club."

Currently on holiday in Italy with his wife Suzannah, Bates said he received a hand-delivered letter last Wednesday from GFH, raising concerns. He expected to deal with it on his return from holiday, but instead: "Two days later, they told me I was sacked."

Describing his treatment as "despicable," Bates said he is considering suing. GFH said there were confidentiality agreements in place, and declined to comment.
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« Svar #2004 på: Juli 28, 2013, 01:01:56 »
Og her er mer fra The Guardian om Kenneths utgiftsposter i Leeds.

...dessverre ser vi at GFHC fortsatt har høye utgifter å dekke :(



Ken Bates's career traced change in football from game to big business
Abrupt departure as Leeds United president brings to an end an often controversial five decades in the sport

Ken Bates was famously portrayed in the 1960s classic The Football Man, by the Observer's Arthur Hopcraft, as the epitome of a new, dynamic, commercial club chairman – raising prices at Oldham Athletic, urging football to see itself as a business. If his abrupt departure one month into an agreed three-year stint as president of Leeds United on Friday finally brings his five decades in football to an end, Bates's extraordinary career can be said to trace the arc of the game's changed relationship with money.

A tax exile in Monaco – having sold Chelsea to Roman Abramovich in 2003 and Leeds to the Bahrain-based Gulf Finance House (GFH) in December – Bates received the news that his presidency had been terminated by hand-delivered letter, while on holiday in Italy with his wife, Suzannah.

Speaking to the Observer from there, Bates said he had been sacked by GFH from his role as club president. He said this was after he committed Leeds United, for the next three years, to paying for a private jet to fly him from Monaco to Leeds whenever he needed. The cost to the club of the contract with the corporate aeroplane charter company 247 Jet is thought to be about £500,000 over the three years.

Bates argued it was unfair and "ridiculous" to be sacked for committing the club to the private-jet contract. He said it was saving the club money because it was in pounds sterling, not euros, and he had been advised that, as a director in June, he did have the power to bind the club to the contract.

Bates said his arrangement with Leeds included "certain expenses" that had not changed in the eight years that he was there. That is understood, from sources who have seen the club's accounts, to have included travelling by private jet between Monaco and Leeds at the club's expense. That service from 247 – which offers, according to its website, "total flexibility, security and privacy" with "no long tedious check-in procedures" – is understood to have latterly cost the Championship club Leeds around £120,000 a year.

Bates always said from 2005 that he did not own Leeds, who had serious financial difficulties when he arrived, dating from the era of "living the dream" under the former chairman Peter Ridsdale. Instead, he said, he had been appointed chairman by anonymous investors in offshore funds who held Leeds via the Forward Sports Fund, registered in the Cayman Islands and administered in Switzerland. In 2011, after concerns raised by a parliamentary select committee that the Leeds owners were unknown, Bates announced he had bought the club from the unnamed investors, via his company, Outro, registered in the tax haven of Nevis.

He was never paid a salary, a point he and Suzannah emphasised, but he confirmed he was paid expenses as the Leeds chairman. According to the sources, these also included €6,000 (about £5,000) a month office expenses in Monaco, paid by the club. Asked about that, and the private-jet contract, Bates declined to confirm details or precisely what the money covered, but said his expenses had not changed for the eight years he was at Leeds.

"GFH knew what my expenses were when they did due diligence and they signed them off," he said.

It is also understood that a deal done in December 2011 with a company, Lutonville Holdings Ltd, connected to Outro, by which Lutonville paid £3.2m for preference shares, involved a regular payment by the club to Lutonville. Leeds paid a "set-up fee" of £100,000 to Lutonville for the £3.2m, which was used to repay creditors, principally Caddick Construction. They were paid £10m by Leeds for developing the centenary pavilion and conference and banqueting facilities in the Elland Road east stand.

Under the terms of the agreement, Leeds United paid Lutonville a "monitoring fee" of £40,000 every quarter. When Bates sold Leeds to GFH in December, the £3.2m preference shares were repaid at £4m, an £800,000 profit. Leeds United's published accounts state that "Lutonville Holdings is a related party by virtue of its connection to Outro Limited". However, Bates said Lutonville is not in fact his company. Of the monitoring fee payment, he said he could not comment because he did not have the details in front of him.

The Leeds accounts are also understood to reveal the high cost of legal disputes fought by Leeds during Bates's tenure as chairman. He pursued a former director, Melvyn Levi, for £190,000 that Bates claims is owed from 2005 – which Levi denies, saying Leeds owed him £1.4m – and lost an action for harassment Levi brought after statements about him in Bates's chairman's programme notes and on the club-owned Yorkshire Radio. The fees for Carter Ruck solicitors, paid by Leeds United, are understood to have amounted to £1.26m between 2010 and 31 May 2012. It is unclear what they relate to.

Leeds are facing the new Football League season still with financial difficulties, which GFH told the Guardian in February is due to Bates having mortgaged two years of season-ticket money for £5m, forward sold the Elland Road catering contract for £2m and borrowed £1.5m from the club sponsor to help pay the £10m cost of the building work. Bates insisted that was a good decision, which many fans believed came at the expense of strengthening the team. "We built 4,000 corporate seats and that is where you make money," Bates said.

He argued that the cashflow problems Leeds faced after he sold the club to GFH was not due to the building work, but to GFH, who had effectively been in executive control since June 2012. He did not expand on which GFH decisions taken, or expenses incurred, had caused the need for a cash injection since the takeover of between £13m and £15m.

It is thought that further money, close to £10m, will be required to keep Leeds going financially with a Championship squad this season. Bates, who argues he has transformed Leeds since 2005, claimed that GFH had struggled to pay the club's wages in March and he said he had "arranged" for Lutonville – although not his company – to lend the club £1m. Bates said this £1m should have been paid back at the end of June, and had not been, so he is planning to sue for it. He also warned that he is likely to sue over his departure as president, which he and Suzannah argued was "unfair".

GFH told the Observer they have signed confidentiality agreements with Bates and so declined to comment on any of it, including the reasons for his tenure as president being so suddenly terminated. Thus a near 50-year career in the people's game nears its final destination, for one of England's most notable football men.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/27/ken-bates-sacked-leeds-jet
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Erik_

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« Svar #2005 på: Juli 28, 2013, 01:31:33 »
Ord blir fattige.  :o

Gufrias

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« Svar #2006 på: Juli 28, 2013, 08:20:02 »
Til DHY, Jarle, h.b og alle andre som hele tiden har hevdet at Bates tok pengene selv:

Unnskyld at jeg tvilte på dere.
Hekta på Leeds siden 1974

DenHviteYeboah

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« Svar #2007 på: Juli 28, 2013, 08:49:30 »
Til DHY, Jarle, h.b og alle andre som hele tiden har hevdet at Bates tok pengene selv:

Unnskyld at jeg tvilte på dere.
Alt iorden ;)
Bates er en tragedie :(
Håper GHF klarer å  få oss tilbake, men har mine tvil om deres finansielle styrke.Time will show :)

Sydhagen

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« Svar #2008 på: Juli 28, 2013, 09:11:33 »
Til DHY, Jarle, h.b og alle andre som hele tiden har hevdet at Bates tok pengene selv:

Unnskyld at jeg tvilte på dere.
Alt iorden ;)
Bates er en tragedie :(
Håper GHF klarer å  få oss tilbake, men har mine tvil om deres finansielle styrke.Time will show :)

Må slenge meg med på den unnskyldningen :)

GHF har kanskje ikke den finansielle styrken, men synes jaggu at de har gjort det meste riktig så langt. Nå har de også sagt at målet er PL innen 2015, så får vi se om vi klarer det.


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"Paynter, a striker whose danger factor is akin to a blind sniper, who has no fingers, or a gun."

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« Svar #2009 på: Juli 28, 2013, 10:25:31 »
Det viktigste er ikke at vi fikk rett, men at vi nå kan se fremover og håpe at GFH får inn sponsorer som kan putte penger inn i driften til spillerkjøp slik at Leeds i løpet av kortest mulig tid kan kjempe i Premier League og aller helst høyest mulig opp på tabellen der